It shouldn’t be a surprise. Obamacrats don’t want debate, Valerie Jarrett makes the risible claim that Obama’s “war on Fox” is merely speaking truth to power and Obama has refused to meet with any House Republicans since last April. Obama’s “post-partisanship” is really “past partisanship”, ie The One doesn’t recognize dissent or disagreement. Obamerica is to be one-man, one-party rule. And it if takes ObamaTruth to get it, so be it.
The latest target of the Whine House is Edmunds.com for the audacity of producing a less-than-Praise-be-unto-Obama report on Cash for Clunkers
SANTA MONICA, Calif. — October 28, 2009 — Edmunds.com, the premier resource for online automotive information, has determined that Cash for Clunkers cost taxpayers $24,000 per vehicle sold.Nearly 690,000 vehicles were sold during the Cash for Clunkers program, officially known as CARS, but Edmunds.com analysts calculated that only 125,000 of the sales were incremental. The rest of the sales would have happened anyway, regardless of the existence of the program.
Ironically, the average transaction price for a new vehicle in August 2009 was only $26,915 minus an average cash rebate of $1,667.
How dare someone not fall in line with Whine House programs! ObamaBlog to the rescue!!
The administration’s blog post argued that Clunkers helped to lower auto prices on the rest of the vehicle market as well, a fact the administration said Edmunds ignored. The White House also said that people were drawn into dealerships because of the program and ended up purchasing cars even if their trade-in didn’t qualify for the program.
Excuse me? Now, I’ve only purchased cars, not sold ‘em, but that line alone is suspicious at a glance. Buying a car isn’t like a two-for-one dinner coupon; people who come to purchase a car because they are going to get a couple of grand off the price aren’t going to go “oh well, guess I’ll buy one anyway” when they find out they don’t qualify for the discount. The Whine House claim is nonsensical. Edmunds agrees
“It does, after all, seem a bit odd that masses of consumers would elect to buy a vehicle because of a program for which they don’t qualify — doubly so when you add in the fact that prices shot up during Cash for Clunkers, creating a disincentive to buy,” Edmunds said in a statement.
The Whine House moves on … yesterday it claimed 650,000 jobs “saved or created” [heh], this morning it’s “the Recovery Act has now created or saved more than a million jobs.”
ObamaTruth: WE will let you know what to think.
Comment by McGehee on 10/31 @ 10:01 am #
There’s a reason why I’ve been calling him President Chicxulub, and it has to do with dinosaurs in the Jurassic media.
That, and the fact he’s cratering.
Comment by SBP on 10/31 @ 10:07 am #
Cash for Clunkers cost taxpayers $24,000 per vehicle sold
They could have saved money by just giving everybody a free car.
Typical.
Comment by B Moe on 10/31 @ 10:11 am #
I would be interested in seeing the details of that argument.
Comment by sdferr on 10/31 @ 10:13 am #
Investment in a literal dreamstate, the why of the whine.
Never pausing to think “You know, it could be that this won’t work at all.”
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/31 @ 10:19 am #
Trooooooooof! to POW-AH!
You know, in engineering it’s typical to express “effeciency” as a ratio; think of it as a fraction where the numerator is what you get out and the denominator what you put in-what you got out/what you put in. Looking at cash for clunkers in this fashion may be one way to measure the bureaucratic efficiency of the administration. So if we form the ratio it comes to 4500/24000, or, 0.1875 efficiency…
Similarly, let’s take a look at the first time home buyers program, which ended up costing taxpayers $43,000 for each $8000 dollars credited. The efficiency of that program is 8000/43000, or, 0.1860 efficiency… http://belowthebeltway.com/2009/10/29/first-time-homebuyer-tax-credit-cost-430000-per-house-sold/
Finally, even if we accept the premise that 650,000 jobs were created by the stimulus, that still leads to a figure of $160,000 per job; an astounding figure. I mean, they could have simply paid 4 people $40,000 per year for every dollar in the spendulus; which would have had the added political benefit of keeping unemployment more along the lines of what they risibly suggested it would be…
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/10/160000-per-stimulus-job-white-house-calls-that-calculator-abuse.html
And when this inconvenient truth was pointed out, the administration scolded ABC for “calculator abuse”…
If anyone ever had reason, or eveidence, of the distinct lack of Brilliance!, or, Judgement! of this administration, this would be impetus to begin doing so. Because, you know, we already know there’s no Transparency! and seemingly a lack of Ethics!…
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/31 @ 10:23 am #
“The administration’s blog post argued that Clunkers helped to lower auto prices on the rest of the vehicle market as well…
But at the same time they argue that the first time home buyers credit helps to prop up housing prices some how, BMoe…
Must just be more of that ObaMagic; a simple showing of his beatific countenance results in the same action yielding diametrically opposed effects…
Comment by happyfeet on 10/31 @ 10:36 am #
Just like housing prices have “shot up” during the buy your first house with food stamps program, prices what will plummet plummet plummet when our Chicago street trash president’s food stamps run out.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/31 @ 10:40 am #
oh hey bob you have that covered which frees me up to go make redundant comments at gawker or maybe at pajamas
Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 10:42 am #
Your short-term memories are still on the fritz. Try to remember who’s team was in charge during the advent of our current , multiple crises.
Comment by mcgruder on 10/31 @ 10:46 am #
OT: you guys should check out the WH visitor logs, see whose been visiting the white house. its up on Instapundit.
two things strike me: the first is that in this, like many, many other things, Obama’s admin. has positions very close to the Bush WH. In other words, “change” is a political adjective to this set, not a transitive verb. i’ll let the consitutional scholars among you hash it all out. I’ll simply remark that the very, very modest amount they released/disclosed is revealing in and of itself. That said, I do see how an administration would want some privacy on this (i am virtually certain that things with Nat. Sec. implications are validly veiled.)
Secondly, look who stops by. Andy Stern, of SEIU, who bragged about the debt the administration owes him for spending $61mm of the union’s cash on the campaign in various ways.
Malik Shabazz, Jesse Jackson, jeremiah Wright, AL Sharpton, Bill Ayers….although they are just as likely checking in on friends throughout the WH….the black chicago power brokerage set, Oprah and Michael (or “Mike”) Jordan….couple of hollywood notables…. All of this begs the question: If they are comfortab;le with Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright being disclosed, who are they comfortable with NOT disclosing?
MSNBC isn’t my cup of chowder, no way. But they did a good thing, an honest journalism thing, by FOIA’ing these records. Credit where it is due.
Comment by B Moe on 10/31 @ 10:48 am #
Franklin Roosevelt? Woodrow Wilson?
Comment by SBP on 10/31 @ 10:49 am #
Try to remember who’s team was in charge during the advent of our current , multiple crises.
My memory is just fine. The Democrats have been in control of Congress since 2006, well before our “current , multiple crises”.
Comment by SBP on 10/31 @ 10:50 am #
My memory also tells me that spending comes from Congress, and that Bush never vetoed anything they put forth.
What does your memory tell YOU, Dirt?
Comment by sdferr on 10/31 @ 10:52 am #
I’d guess it tells him to hold on tight to the dreamstate, SBP, what else could it do in face of the rapidly multiplying policy disasters in the offing?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/31 @ 10:53 am #
“Comment by B Moe on 10/31 @ 10:11 am #
The administration’s blog post argued that Clunkers helped to lower auto prices on the rest of the vehicle market as well…
I would be interested in seeing the details of that argument.”
Well, remove 690,000 cars from the used car market, and of COURSE your prices are going to go down.
Oh.
Wait……
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/31 @ 10:54 am #
FROM LUCIANNE.COM:
“Late Breaking News!
Scozzafava Drops Out Of NY-23 Race
The Base Barks: Republican Establishment in Washington, D.C. spent over $900,000.00 to elect Dede Scozzafava, who today abandons the race.”
Comment by SBP on 10/31 @ 10:55 am #
Haven’t you guys studied basic economics?
Subsidizing a good increases demand, which causes the price to go down…no, wait. Subsidizing a good reduces demand…no, wait. IT JUST DOES, OKAY? Obama said it. I believe it. That settles it.
Comment by SBP on 10/31 @ 10:56 am #
#15: Good point. I didn’t think of that. Reducing the supply of a good also causes the price to go down…no, wait.
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/31 @ 11:06 am #
mcgruder,
I agree with your statement as well as with your gratitude to MSNBC for FOIA these documents…
What jumped out at me was the number of times Andy Stern and George Soros visited the White House. These guys have better access to the halls of power than the Republican congressional leaders, or David Petraeus and McChrystal; admittedly the latter’s visit references may be being held close to the vest for national security reasons…
But really, Stern and Soros seem to stop by and see Obama regularly; I guess they really did buy their admission tickets last year…
Comment by sdferr on 10/31 @ 11:08 am #
Imam still “murdered“. How weird is that on a Halloween?
Comment by cranky-d on 10/31 @ 11:11 am #
Up is down. Black is white. We have always been at war with Eastasia.
We all know most politicians lie regularly, but many of them at least try to make it sound plausible by simply lying by leaving out some pertinent facts. The bald-faced lying of this Whitehouse is amazing to behold. You don’t even have to have any knowledge of political facts to debunk what is being said. To quote P.J. O’Rourke, “If you promise one can of cat food every day for every cat, you get kittens.” If one cannot understand that, one should probably not be allowed near heavy machinery or a voting booth.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/31 @ 11:14 am #
http://www.politico.com/blogs/scorecard/1009/BREAKING_Scozzafava_drops_out_of_NY_23.html
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/31 @ 11:15 am #
Aw, shoot…………..
Late again.
HEHE!
Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 11:17 am #
Uh, you DO know what short-term memory loss is, don’t you?
Some seem to think 20th century leaders are short-term memory candidates, so I thought I would provide some examples courtesy dick Cheney….
“Notes from former Vice President Dick Cheney’s interview with the FBI about the leak of Valerie Plame Wilson’s covert CIA identity were finally released on Friday afternoon after a lengthy legal battle. Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington sued the Justice Department last year to obtain the interview notes; a judge finally ordered their release on October 1. In the interview, Cheney demonstrated a behavior common among Bush administration officials under investigation: he couldn’t remember much of anything. Here’s a non-comprehensive list of 22 things Dick Cheney claimed he couldn’t recall about the Plame case, in the order they appear in the FBI’s notes:
* Whether the Wilson trip was discussed during any of the visits he made to the CIA with his Chief of Staff, Scooter Libby.
* Any reaction he had to Nicholas Kristof’s New York Times’ article about the Wilson visit at the time the article was published.
* Whether he discussed the Wilson situation with George Tenet at their meeting on June 10, 2003.
* Who he spoke to about Joe Wilson’s July 6, 2003 editorial (he did remember speaking to someone, but not who it was).
* What happened to the Joe Wilson op-ed after he wrote on it suggesting that Valerie Plame Wilson had sent Joe Wilson on a “junket,” and put it in his outbox.
* Any specific advice he gave his press people in the May-June 2003 timeframe regarding the Wilson trip to Niger.
* Whether he discussed the Wilson situation with Eric Edelman, one of his national security advisers.
* Whether Cathie Martin, his press secretary, entered his office while both he and Scooter Libby were present and advised both of them that Joe Wilson’s wife was employed by the CIA.
* Discussing Joe Wilson or Wilson’s wife with his former press secretary Mary Matalin, although he said it was possible.
* Ever discussing Valerie Plame Wilson with Libby prior to the publication of Novak’s column.
* Whether Scooter Libby knew about Valerie Plame Wilson on July 12, the day before the publication of the Novak column.
* If Libby ever told Cheney he had independent knowledge of Valerie Plame Wilson’s covert identity
* Dictating notes to Libby on July 12, 2003 that Cheney said looked and sounded like something he might have dictated to Libby.
* Discussing the Novak column or any of its contents with anyone at the time it was published.
* Whether he discussed the Wilson trip with Libby as a sort of “boondoggle” or “junket,” although he believed it possible that he had such a conversation.
* If Libby told him that Libby was not Novak’s source.
* Libby telling him how he first learned that Valerie Plame Wilson was a covert CIA operative.
* Whether he told Libby that Valerie Plame Wilson was a covert CIA operative.
* Waving off Libby when Libby offered to tell him everything he knew about the Wilson matter.
* Anyone on his staff, including Libby, ever meeting with Judith Miller during the week of July 7, 2003.
* Having a conversation with Libby during which Libby said he wanted to share the judgments of the National Intelligence Estimate with Judith Miller.
* Whether Libby told him that certain material in the NIE had to be declassified before it could be shared.
Now THAT’s short-term memory loss.
Comment by Team Stoooopid on 10/31 @ 11:19 am #
What is it with these twinkies? meyacone takes a day off, and some dumber than dirt fool fills the stooopidity gap. There seems to be an endless supply.
Comment by B Moe on 10/31 @ 11:19 am #
You just can’t make this shit up.
Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 11:19 am #
Did I read someone talking about lying? Always on topic, this Joe.
Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 11:20 am #
Lest the heroes of the Bush years be forgotten, (lost to convenient short-term memory)
Comment by sdferr on 10/31 @ 11:20 am #
My memory somehow managed to pop out the name Richard Armitage. Strange, I don’t see him mentioned there.
Comment by B Moe on 10/31 @ 11:23 am #
“There was Barack Obama only the other day, blaming everything on the president – no, no, silly, not him, the other fellow, the Designated Fall Guy who stepped down as head of state in January to accept the new constitutional position of Blame Czar. Musing on problems in Afghanistan, Obama blamed the “long years of drift” under his predecessor. The new president – OK, newish president – has been Drifter-in-Chief for almost a year but he’s too busy speaking truth to the former power to get on top of the situation. It could be a while yet. In his more self-regarding moments, such as his speech to the United Nations, he gives the strong impression that the “long years of drift” began in 1776.”
Comment by Team Stoooopid on 10/31 @ 11:25 am #
Wow, dirt’s gone full retard in record time. Dirt, please peddle you bullshit at DUmmies.
B-b-but Boooooooosh!
Comment by sdferr on 10/31 @ 11:26 am #
It’s best that Obama confine himself to speaking of the past B Moe. He hasn’t really got very good rhetorical options if he’s going to speak of the future, since he’d have to commit himself to one particular or another and the way things are going, none of his potential particulars are looking very good.
Comment by Team Stoooopid on 10/31 @ 11:28 am #
29.Comment by sdferr on 10/31 @ 11:20 am #
My memory somehow managed to pop out the name Richard Armitage. Strange, I don’t see him mentioned there.
Doesn’t fit teh Narrative™
Comment by JD on 10/31 @ 11:28 am #
The trolls’ asshattery and douchenozzlery continues apace.
Comment by sdferr on 10/31 @ 11:29 am #
Though I guess he could crow a bit about forcing the Hondurans to re-accept Mel Zelaya into their political life, it’s still small potatoes.
Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 11:29 am #
“He hasn’t really got very good rhetorical options if he’s going to speak of the future, since he’d have to commit himself to one particular or another and the way things are going”
Yes. He would be a much better Prez than George if he shot from the hip with the same razor-sharp instincts.
We need another President with ‘reckless disregard’.
Comment by sdferr on 10/31 @ 11:31 am #
Nice assertion, the “shot from the hip” nonsense Mr Dirt. It’s good to see you hold true to form. Hang on tight to that dreamstate now. Wouldn’t want to see you get unmoored.
Comment by Darleen on 10/31 @ 11:32 am #
Joe Dirt is our Proggie spammer from Highland, CA (ip 76.175.221.167) aka Swineherder, Harbringer, Gorgeous George, etc. No original thoughts (did I mention he’s a progg?) but spamming Talking points from Mother Jones without attribution. Not that proggs recognize property rights any way, but hey.
So, hows the gangsta stuff going on in Highland today, “Joe Dirt”? You haven’t commented for a while? Hid your laptop from your Probation Officer?
Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 11:36 am #
“So, hows the gangsta stuff going on in Highland today”
You are too clever. Even managed to rise above the usual Darleen and ask a coherent, albeit inane, question.
Comment by Darleen on 10/31 @ 11:36 am #
Charles Krauthammer
Comment by sdferr on 10/31 @ 11:37 am #
Neo-neocon blogs an extremely relevant bit of social science (as she terms it) research, the Dunning–Kruger effect:
Comment by sdferr on 10/31 @ 11:38 am #
link
Comment by Darleen on 10/31 @ 11:39 am #
Dirt of Highland, CA
What’s the matter? Glen Helen too full for you to do your weekends right now so a little online plagarizing?
Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 11:39 am #
Try as you might, there is no escape from Bush. He’s yours. You own him.
Take responsibility.
Comment by RIP Ford on 10/31 @ 11:42 am #
“We need another President with ‘reckless disregard’.”
What you call reckless disregard most would call being able to make a decision. Being a President is tough and stuff I know, but someone has to do it. It can’t always be unicorn farts and skittle rainbows.
Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 11:42 am #
It bothers Darleen that a Progressive exists amongst an ocean of Inland Empire Regressive Red-Neckism
Comment by sdferr on 10/31 @ 11:43 am #
Who wants to escape from Bush? He may have made what will in the fullness of time be proven to be errors of judgment but will also be seen to have made a great many good decisions. And all that in the face of an enormously dishonest campaign to impugn his motives and integrity, the which, he steadfastly ignored in order the better to do his job. I for one thank him.
Comment by Darleen on 10/31 @ 11:46 am #
GW was no fiscal conservative – but he did put in place policies that kept America safe from terrorist attack since 9/11. Policies that Obama wisely left in place.
Now, Democrat policies such as CRA and the strong arming of banks to give mortgages to people who couldn’t afford them was a major cause of the recession — and Obama’s 800 billion dollar “stimulus” doesn’t and the threatened nationalization of 1/7th of theAmerican economy (healthcare) plus the business/job killer known as cap-and-trade are fully Obama and his ilk’s own.
Anti-capitalist since 2006 – own it Dirt.
Comment by geoffb on 10/31 @ 11:46 am #
Shows the vastly over rated importance of Plame and Wilson whose hype was built on a foundation of the vapors of the Left and their hatred of all things Cheney.
BTW what did you have for lunch March 17th 2005? What event happened August 4th 2003 that had a lasting effect on your life? You sure it was August 4th? Not the 5th?
Comment by Darleen on 10/31 @ 11:47 am #
Dirty of Highland
Poor baby! did I hit a nerve by mentioning Glen Helen?
Comment by Dr Carlo Lombardi on 10/31 @ 11:48 am #
Dirtbag:”Look Halloween bunnies!”
Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 11:48 am #
“GW was no fiscal conservative – but he did put in place policies that kept America safe from terrorist attack since 9/11. Policies that Obama wisely left in place.”
Now that’s an exhaustive treatise on the legacy of GWB. Words escape you, he was so awesome,
Comment by Seth on 10/31 @ 11:50 am #
Anyone else remember when self-assured adults were running the country? This team acts like a bunch of insecure teenagers. But then, that’s always been an aspect of the leftist mold, it seems.
Comment by Barack Obama on 10/31 @ 11:50 am #
Present!
Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 11:55 am #
Once again, Darleen MUST DELETE–MUST DELETE, as she loses control of her cubicle, and has her lunch eaten for the umpteenth time; by a troll she can’t control.
Comment by Darleen on 10/31 @ 11:55 am #
Dirty of Highland,
oh please, go find an actual quote of mine that I praised GW with 1/20th the religious adoration Obamabots have for The Once.
Find a quote from President Bush denoucing by name any proggie opinion writer or news organization.
go now, Dirty.
Comment by cranky-d on 10/31 @ 11:57 am #
They brought in the jayvee trolls today. Second string jayvee.
Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 11:57 am #
“go now, Dirty.”
Why don’t you just tell us how George disappointed you?
Comment by B Moe on 10/31 @ 11:59 am #
He didn’t give me a pony.
Comment by sdferr on 10/31 @ 12:00 pm #
“…how George disappointed you?”
By not giving Mr Libby a full and unconditional pardon.
Comment by Darleen on 10/31 @ 12:00 pm #
Dirty
You’re the one making the claims, even 5150 stuff like #55. Link it, Dirty.
Comment by Seth on 10/31 @ 12:02 pm #
Besides the pony thing, he also didn’t veto near enough spending. Or any, that I can recall.
Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 12:03 pm #
“Link it, Dirty.”
Silence equals approval. You may not have praised him vociferously, but your lack of criticism during his tenure places no less responsibility on you and your brethren
Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 12:04 pm #
You’d vote for a cocker spaniel if it was conservative enough for you.
Comment by geoffb on 10/31 @ 12:06 pm #
So this is to be the BUNNIES!!!! thread. One a day is needed, just like a good #2. Flushing is required along with a good wash up after for sanitary purposes.
Comment by JD on 10/31 @ 12:06 pm #
It is telling how hard Joe Dirt aka swinefucker does not want to talk about the actual topic. BOOOOOOOOOOSH !!!!!!!!
Comment by Darleen on 10/31 @ 12:07 pm #
Dirty
Bush is no longer President. Period. Today’s economic debacle is the responsibility of the Democrats and Afghanistan is now Obama’s war — and his face will now be in the dictionary next to “dithering”.
Tell us why Obama is teh awesome for you?
Comment by cranky-d on 10/31 @ 12:07 pm #
George didn’t give me any free gas or skittle-shitting and rainbow-farting unicorns. He also didn’t veto spending often enough. He said he would sign an “assault weapons” ban if congress passed it. He signed the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform bill, which is unconstitutional. He went forward with TARP.
In other words, he did a lot of things I didn’t like. However, he got the war against radical Islam right, and he knew how to pay the nation’s respect to our armed forces (and was willing to do it without cameras around recording the event), and for that I thank him.
Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 12:07 pm #
“One a day is needed,”
I doubt that once is enough for this altitude of denial and delusion.
Comment by Darleen on 10/31 @ 12:08 pm #
Geoffb
You’re correct.
Dirty, defend Obama per above or go away. No more Bush Bunnies.
Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 12:08 pm #
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Comment by cranky-d on 10/31 @ 12:09 pm #
Lack of criticism when Bush was in office? You are delusional. Keep digging through all that horseshit you’re cranking out because there has to be a pony in there somewhere.
Comment by sdferr on 10/31 @ 12:10 pm #
Barack Obama has certainly set a colossal new standard for failure in the first year of office though, I’ve gotta admit. Every claimed positive achievement an actual negative (and even those, while gargantuan, are few and far between) and every loudly trumpeted promise of change to come quietly abandoned as the truth of the world comes to light. He is surely laying down a fail marker that will withstand the efforts of future Presidents to surpass it for a century to come, if not more.
Comment by Darleen on 10/31 @ 12:10 pm #
You’d vote for a cocker spaniel if it was conservative enough for you.
Ironic, since there is no equivalent phrase to “yellow-dog Democrat”
Projection, thy name is Progg.
Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 12:11 pm #
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Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 12:12 pm #
[deleted ... and I don't have to do anything at your command, Dirty]
Comment by B Moe on 10/31 @ 12:12 pm #
What the hell does that even mean?
Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 12:13 pm #
[deleted - no more bunnies, Dirty]
Comment by Barack Obama on 10/31 @ 12:15 pm #
I created or saved 640,329 jobs at a cost of $323,739.83 per job you dolts. That was money very well spent don’t you think?
Now excuse me, I’ve got an enemies list to update.
Comment by McGehee on 10/31 @ 12:17 pm #
Dirtball, I’ve got David Spade on line 2. He wants to kick your ass for making his movie character look like an idiot.
Comment by sdferr on 10/31 @ 12:22 pm #
Mrs Clinton is right in line with the rest of the whiners, re-writing the past to prop up the present.
Comment by Rusty on 10/31 @ 12:25 pm #
JoeD, honest to god, thinks he’s talking to Republicans.
It is amazing though how any troll shows up and they utter the same tired old assertions. Facts forever elude them.
Comment by Snowcone on 10/31 @ 12:37 pm #
It’s a laugh to see the Silly Right continue to whine about Obama’s booming economy.
Bet that works real good for y’all during next year’s election.
Comment by No one you know on 10/31 @ 12:37 pm #
Back on topic, per the last link in the post, I don’t blame the Whitehouse for trying to spin the porkulus. Hell, Romer went from publishing that infamous graph regarding unemployment (I’m always amazed that people can get it so wrong and still be respected for their opinions) to saying that the stimulus has pretty much run it’s course,with regard to affecting the economy (this after only 15% of the money being used.) So, the current admin has to say something worked like they said it would, never mind the bullshit saved/created statistic.
I’m just waiting for someone to follow up with Obama’s economic wizards on how they got it so wrong.
Comment by geoffb on 10/31 @ 12:44 pm #
Historical revisionism on the Left was the only point of congruence between the set of this post and that of the comments of J. Dirt and the frozen vegetable dessert item. Even that was only an accidental alignment, as was the logic therein.
Comment by sdferr on 10/31 @ 12:46 pm #
This WaPo article on Obama’s ongoing attempt to put off a decision on McChrystal’s Afghanistan campaign plan appears to me to signal an abandonment of the efforts of the WaPo to run interference for the incompetent boob any longer. Could be a big deal as the days march on.
Comment by Barack Obama on 10/31 @ 12:50 pm #
“It’s a laugh to see the Silly Right continue to whine about Obama’s booming economy”
See, this here is the model American that I love. Either too dumb to understand what’s really going on or easily manipulated into believing the obvious bullshit I peddle. Love it.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/31 @ 12:52 pm #
Good one, Snowcone.
Comment by sdferr on 10/31 @ 12:54 pm #
Yet another description of the dreamstate to which the Obami must cling, this time by Thomas Sowell:
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/31 @ 1:05 pm #
Joe Dirt,
Ad Hominem Tu Quoque is a poor rhetorical strategy to lean on, and typically intellectually dishonest…But I understand; it’s the chief tactic they recommend at the OFA/Axelrod astroturfing academy.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/31 @ 1:05 pm #
All you need to know to compare GWB to Obama:
GWB visited troops, troops’ families, and honored the fallen thousands of times. Obama did it once. Some Joe Dirt type idiot said, “Bush never went to Dover.” To which he was answered, “Bush NEVER took a camera crew.”
Obama is an idiot. Plain and simple. He’s a small person. An insecure, stupid fraud. This will sort out, one way or another.
Comment by Pablo on 10/31 @ 1:20 pm #
Reckless disregard?
WE GOTTA PASS THIS PORKULUS RIGHT NOW OR WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!
Besides, Nancy’s gotta catch a plane to Rome.
Comment by geoffb on 10/31 @ 1:24 pm #
When the organs of the press start reporting this as, Slumlord, close friend and presidential advisor Valerie Jarrett makes the risible claim that Obama’s “war on Fox” is merely speaking truth to power
, they will be starting down a path to being journalists again.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/31 @ 1:30 pm #
Reckless disregard would be demanding Congress vote on a bill wasting over a trillion dollars without giving them time to do more than scan the table of contents.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/31 @ 1:35 pm #
Comment by Snowcone on 10/31 @ 12:37 pm #
It’s a laugh to see the Silly Right continue to whine about Obama’s booming economy.
Hhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahaha. Jesus christ these were the same people saying for Bush’s entire term in office that the economy sucked with 5% unemployment and 13 straight quarters of growth sometimes as high as 7%. WTF planet am I living on? This Dbag has devalued the dollar to shit and the economy continues to bleed 500 thousand jobs every month but since our Prez and his party waste trillions of our tax dollars propping up the car and housing markets so we get a one month uptick in GDP and you come in here and say “Obama’s booming economy”? Put down the bong please you’re hurting your brain.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/31 @ 1:41 pm #
Most of Obama’s Porkulus is in his offshore account. Yassar-style.
Comment by cranky-d on 10/31 @ 1:44 pm #
When I said the trolls today were second-string junior varsity, I was incorrect. They’re pop warner level.
Comment by Darleen on 10/31 @ 1:45 pm #
Booming economy, that’s the ticket.
Comment by Snowcone on 10/31 @ 1:47 pm #
At least y’all admit you in the Silly Right now sound just like a pack of shrill Kos readers from 2005, Pink.
The big difference being that the Kos readers also had a plan to take back the Presidency and Congress.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/31 @ 1:52 pm #
had a plan to take back the Presidency and Congress.
Good one, Snowcone. That was all they felt needed planning. Again, good one.
Comment by cranky-d on 10/31 @ 1:57 pm #
The economy is booming so loud I can barely hear myself think. I guess I’ll quit my crappy job and go get a new one, since there must be a lot of new jobs waiting for me while this economy booms. Wish me luck!
Comment by Snowcone on 10/31 @ 2:02 pm #
Employment is always a lagging stat, cranky.
The unemployment rate should be falling quite nicely…before next year’s election.
Poor Silly Right, can’t catch a break.
It’s enough to make one think Gawd is on the Democrat’s side.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/31 @ 2:06 pm #
“Comment by Joe Dirt on 10/31 @ 11:57 am #
“go now, Dirty.”
Why don’t you just tell us how George disappointed you?”
He spent too much money trying to appease the left.
An immposible mission.
Oh, he also won the war in Iraq.
There is that.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/31 @ 2:08 pm #
Of course if President Bush spent money like a drunken sailor, the reactionary leftist O!bama admin is spending money like a coked up Armada.
Let’s hear your complaints about THAT, dirt boy.
Comment by McGehee on 10/31 @ 2:12 pm #
My contention is that this is journalism.
What they need to do is go back to being reporters.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/31 @ 2:13 pm #
“The unemployment rate should be falling quite nicely…before next year’s election.”
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Oh, snotty, you are so funny.
Comment by Rusty on 10/31 @ 2:15 pm #
#102
As if stupid has collapsed into a mass so dense that random scatalogia is ejected from both poles. The pull of its gravity is such the even normal reason is distorted into something resembling a skidmark at the event horizon. Untill recently it was thought that this one, duncehat shaped piece of ice, was the only one. But we have since learned that they are quite common in that area of the universe known as ,’democrat’.
Comment by Darleen on 10/31 @ 2:22 pm #
snotty
the growth in jobs is in Government.
and the bigger and more centralized the Feds, we will never get below 7 or 8%.
See Europe.
Comment by Snowcone on 10/31 @ 2:25 pm #
..we will never get below 7 or 8%
7 or even 8% unemployment will do quite nicely for the Democrats come election time next year.
Comment by cranky-d on 10/31 @ 2:27 pm #
#105
Oooh, Snap!
Comment by Patrick Chester on 10/31 @ 2:48 pm #
Silence equals approval.
Silence is… silence.
Though I guess in your case it is an unwillingness to feed your sick need for attention.
Enjoy the silence.
Comment by Patrick Chester on 10/31 @ 2:51 pm #
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Comment by Rusty on 10/31 @ 12:25 pm #
JoeD, honest to god, thinks he’s talking to Republicans.
It is amazing though how any troll shows up and they utter the same tired old assertions. Facts forever elude them.
The Clone Breeders of Kamino must have other product lines.
Comment by SBP on 10/31 @ 2:59 pm #
Shorter Dirt: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!
We’re not talking about Bush here, Dirt. We’re talking about the King of Fail, Barack Obama.
Buh-bye.
BTW, that’s quite a shithole you live in there, son.
I’d figure a JEEENIUS like you would be in Silicon Valley, maybe with vacation homes in Paris, London, Rome, Tokyo, and the French Riviera.
I guess if you smoke enough meth you can believe you’re in one of those places, eh?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/31 @ 3:07 pm #
Comment by Snowcone on 10/31 @ 2:25 pm #
Have you ever applied for the Fool position at the court of Emeror O!bama, snotnose?
I figure with your C.V. it’s be a perfect fit.
Comment by Patrick Chester on 10/31 @ 3:08 pm #
N O’B: and it’d be another job the wonderful Obama administration added to the economy! ;-)
Comment by David Axelrod's Combover on 10/31 @ 3:24 pm #
“Employment is always a lagging stat, cranky.
The unemployment rate should be falling quite nicely…before next year’s election.”
We’ve been hearing this “employment is a lagging stat” nonsense from the left for about six months now. It always shows how completely ignorant the current state of the economy the person who makes that argument is. Any look at the financial blogs (such as Zerohedge or Calculated Risk) will show mountains of data that shows we aren’t just in a “jobless recovery,” we are in a “job-loss recovery.” The country is over $50 trillion in debt across the board, rail and trucking traffic is down, CRE is about to pop, a whole mess of OptionARMS are about to reset, 500 banks are on the FDIC’s Problem Bank list, and we still have well over 500,000 people a month out of work (and the rising U3:U6 differential shows it’s not getting better). Where exactly are the jobs–that is, permanent, full-time jobs–going to come from? What industries are going to hire over 4 million people? There’s nothing left.
The stock market pump on Thursday was the result of a bear trap set by Goldman Sachs when they lowballed the GDP numbers. Half of the GDP from last quarter was from C4C, a one-time (for now, anyway) “stimulus” program that did nothing other than 1) clear out old lot inventories, while destroying many perfectly good used cars that could have been resold to lower-income individuals or recycled for parts (and here I thought the left was all into “recycling”); 2) pulled forward demand from people that were holding off until they had more money to put down on the car–and that demand won’t be springing up; and 3) added even more of a debt burden onto the wallets of people that owned their vehicles free and clear, when one of the biggest drags on the economy right now is TOO MUCH DEBT. On top of this, Congress is taking a first-time homebuyer credit, whose process has been shown to have riven with fraud, and is actually planning on EXTENDING the credit to second-time homebuyers who are “trading up.” By doing these actions, they are preventing prices across the economy from going to their appropriate market levels and are in effect pricing lower-income consumers out of the market.
If God is on the Democrat’s side, he certainly has a funny way of showing it, because the Democrats have shown that they are utterly incapable of acknowledging economic realities, and are corrupted by their campaign contributions and perks from the banksters. Despite HR 1207 having more than enough cosponsors to pass if released from committee, Barney Frank continues to sit his fat ass on the bill–so much for the left desiring transparency and demanding accountability. Obama’s speech last weekend was a pile of vacuous silliness as he basically begged the banks to open up their small business lending–and just 5 days later Citigroup, which does most of their lending to small businesses, announced they will be filing bankruptcy on Monday. Not to mention that Sheila Bair’s demand for three years worth of premiums to restock the broke FDIC is going to crater smaller local and regional banks that also do a lot of their lending to small businesses.
And given all this you, Snowcone, think the economy is going to get better, unemployment will drop dramatically next year, and “Happy Days are Here Again”? You don’t have clue #1 as to what is going on in this country right now and don’t deserve to be given the benefit of the doubt on any argument you make.
Comment by RD on 10/31 @ 3:27 pm #
You need to get more fun out of life.
This meme was apparently started by Rush Limbaugh, failed NFL part-owner.
Surely, there are links and figures to back up this assertion.
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Comment by Spiny Norman on 10/31 @ 3:30 pm #
Actually, it’s worse than it looks: East Highlands Ranch (a large middle-class suburban development in the hills east of the 210/30 freeway) inflates those numbers a bit.
Comment by Darleen on 10/31 @ 3:36 pm #
Sept 2009
Monster
Comment by geoffb on 10/31 @ 3:38 pm #
It’s how the dead vote Democrat, and how the Left gets over whelming approval for Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot. They made a lot of silence.
Comment by Spiny Norman on 10/31 @ 3:40 pm #
#121
And the Left is pissed that they can’t get away with that here, at least not yet…
Comment by newrouter on 10/31 @ 3:41 pm #
speaking goof to power
Comment by JHo on 10/31 @ 3:50 pm #
Exactly. We’ve kited the dollar against cheap imports for two decades, decimated our former manufacturing centers, and are the better part of a quarter-quadrillion dollars upside down in debt and unpaid obligations, actually.
The only game we know is manipulating our currency via the central banks (read: the Fed They Too Big To Fail, Inc.™) which means more of the same — think mortgage-as-ATM on the national scale. This is no recovery, this is a last gasp, which, granted could go on for some time. Watch em rearrange the monetary deck chairs for a long while.
But in the end, either we make stuff and pay down debt or we simply slash our standard of living. And our national defenses.
It’s a whole new world, and instead of getting a clue, today the left makes up in myopia what it lacked in coherent thought the previous eight years. Multiculturalism and thumbing your nose at classic principles — reality, if you prefer — will pay off in bushels, you just wait and see.
Yes, we can!
Comment by SBP on 10/31 @ 4:00 pm #
I see that Blowbama is giving H1N1 shots to Gitmo detainees.
Flu shots for terrorists, but not for your kids. Heck of a job, Barky!
Comment by SBP on 10/31 @ 4:02 pm #
Hi, Rilly.
Bye, Rilly.
P.S. this is Saturday. Did you ever figure out how that calendar thingie works? Or maybe it’s just that the concepts of “work week” and “weekends” are utterly foreign to your experience?
Snicker.
Comment by Spiny Norman on 10/31 @ 4:16 pm #
RD – your posting of pointless partisan nonsense continues unabated.
I know you’ll never change.
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Comment by RD on 10/31 @ 4:29 pm #
I wouldn’t say that. Darleen seems to be trying her best to ‘bate it.
Comment by SDN on 10/31 @ 4:38 pm #
Does trollhammer periodically reset on it’s own?
Comment by DarthRove on 10/31 @ 4:43 pm #
SDN: Once a week the ‘hammer resets itself under the highly optimistic assumption that the trolls may have something new or worthwhile to say. Sadly, this is rarely the case and you have to lay the ‘hammer down again.
JD: If you’re reading this, get back to celebrating the win over Meat-chicken. And thanks for leaving that team in Champaign when you came to Columbus. They were looking good today!
Comment by cranky-d on 10/31 @ 5:06 pm #
My version of trollhammer resets much less frequently than once per week, more like at least two weeks and possibly three. Maybe I changed a setting one time?
BTW, trolls, no need to respond to me as I have you all trollhammered. Because you’re boring and stupid.
Comment by cranky-d on 10/31 @ 5:06 pm #
Or maybe a reset can only happen if you close firefox? I rarely do that.
Comment by JHo on 10/31 @ 5:08 pm #
When the going gets tough, the tough get going.
Comment by JHo on 10/31 @ 5:16 pm #
Not a jobless “recovery”, RD?
Comment by SBP on 10/31 @ 5:16 pm #
My version of trollhammer resets much less frequently than once per week, more like at least two weeks and possibly three. Maybe I changed a setting one time?
It depends on the version you have. I increased it in the released version at one point, I’m pretty sure,, but the version I’m working on (in my oodles of free time) has a shorter time, mainly so that the trolls keep coming back periodically for testing purposes.
Yes, it’s optimistic to think that someone like Rilly would change his ways and stop being stupid and dishonest. So far, not one of the trolls I’ve ‘hammered has ever redeemed himself. If that trend continues, I may just make the ‘hammering permanent by default (or have it expire in the year 2050 or something). However, before doing that I’d want to add some UI code to make the expiration time user-configurable (again, I’ll get right on that in my copious free time :-)).
Comment by JHo on 10/31 @ 5:18 pm #
Paying $24,000 for $2,000 cars worked well.
Comment by dicentra on 10/31 @ 5:23 pm #
My sister got a good price on her trade-in because of CfC. Shortage of used cars and all.
Comment by Matt on 10/31 @ 5:29 pm #
This is usually the point where I remind the liberal trolls that the tanking of the economy was directly relatied to the tanking of the housing market, which was caused by legislation authored by Barney Frank and other congressional libs which forced banks to give loans for homes to people who couldn’t afford them.
Annnnddd done.
Comment by JD on 10/31 @ 5:35 pm #
Darth – Missed it completely. What happened?
Comment by SBP on 10/31 @ 5:39 pm #
JD: U of I beat Michigan, 38-13.
Comment by dicentra on 10/31 @ 5:39 pm #
OT: All you electronics freaks, riddle me this.
I have a passive directional antenna for my TV. Needless to say, my signals were often weak (the converter box shows signal strength). Because the transmission antennas are clustered on one mountaintop (heading 256.19°), the directional is best, IMO.
So I bought a signal booster and put it between the antenna and the converter box. Supposed to add –11db gain. Sure enough, lots of my channels have a higher signal strength, and I’ve picked up a few new channels.
However, I have utterly lost channels 2 and 4 (34 and 40 UHF). Can’t get jack, no matter how I position the antenna.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? How can better gain result in LOST signals?
I hates this digital TV, I tells ya. Hates it.
Comment by DarthRove on 10/31 @ 5:47 pm #
JD: Illinois put the beatdown on Michigan, 38-13. Scored 21 in the 3rd quarter. Michigan basically fell apart after they had a touchdown overturned and couldn’t push it in from 1st and goal on the 3. Illini had over 350 yards rushing and avg’d about 6 a carry. Their D looked good too, they stopped Michigan 4 times in the red zone.
Comment by SBP on 10/31 @ 5:48 pm #
Could be a bandwidth problem (real bandwidth, not what Internet people call “bandwidth”).
All amplifiers have cutoff frequencies below and above which they actually lose signal rather than amplifying it. Is there a station in between (in real frequency, not the arbitrary channel numbers used now) the two that are having problems? What about the next station above 4 (again, in real frequency)? Is it noticeably weaker than higher frequency stations?
If you can get 2 and 4 okay without the amplifier, and if everything is accessible from inside the house, the obvious (albeit somewhat inconvenient) solution would be a switch box which lets you bypass the amplifier.
If it’s a cutoff problem, a better solution would be to buy a higher-quality amplifier.
Comment by dicentra on 10/31 @ 6:00 pm #
SBP, these are the channels surrounding the ones that I don’t get (source):
34 — 423.0 kW = NO
36 — 200.0 kW = YES
38 — 546.0 kW = YES
40 — 476.0 kW = NO
42 — 239.0 kW = YES
I also get channels below and above those frequencies. The two I am missing are CBS and ABC, not some stupid weather tracker.
Comment by SBP on 10/31 @ 6:02 pm #
I hates this digital TV, I tells ya. Hates it.
Oh, and what you said.
I’ve got a beam antenna hanging from the ceiling in my living room, ’cause I’ve yet to invest in a proper outdoor mast with an antenna rotator (unfortunately, my stations are not all in the same direction). I haven’t had cable since the local franchise was taken over by Comcast, the Most Incompetent Company in the World.
Comment by dicentra on 10/31 @ 6:03 pm #
No dice without amplifier.
Maybe there’s something wrong with the broadcast antennas. Once, almost all channels were gone after a thunderstorm.
Comment by SBP on 10/31 @ 6:05 pm #
Okay, that’s weird.
Do they come back if you disconnect the amplifier temporarily?
Comment by SBP on 10/31 @ 6:08 pm #
Disregard my #151. I hadn’t seen your #150.
If it works without the amplifier in-circuit, that does point to something having changed on the transmission end.
They may be tweaking their signal pattern — lots of stations are still doing that, particularly in parts of the country where they have a lot of area to cover.
Comment by JHo on 10/31 @ 6:10 pm #
Actually, idiot, it’s Calculated Risk, one of the two few economics blogs online.
Did you want to accuse them of making bald-faced assertions?
Comment by JHo on 10/31 @ 6:11 pm #
two = top
Comment by dicentra on 10/31 @ 6:12 pm #
SBP:
I just sent an e-mail to the offending stations. They don’t ever notify you of outages on their web sites. I guess that would be too convenient for the customer.
As for area to cover, it’s mostly a narrow strip between two mountain ranges. Outside of their range, there’s a whole lotta nuthin.
Comment by JHo on 10/31 @ 6:12 pm #
Trolls dropping like flies these days. Reality bites, eh RD?
Comment by dicentra on 10/31 @ 6:12 pm #
If it works without the amplifier in-circuit
Does not work with amplifier, either.
Comment by SBP on 10/31 @ 6:14 pm #
If it works without the amplifier in-circuit
“If it doesn’t work without the amplifier…” that should say, obviously.
Comment by Darleen on 10/31 @ 6:15 pm #
USA Today
Expansion of the Federal Government at the expense of the private sector.
Just as statist Proggies want it.
Comment by sdferr on 10/31 @ 6:17 pm #
dicentra, did you use an antenna choosing helper thingy?
Comment by J. "Trashman" Peden on 10/31 @ 6:19 pm #
Matt:
This is usually the point where I remind the liberal trolls that the tanking of the economy was directly relatied to the tanking of the housing market, which was caused by legislation authored by Barney Frank and other congressional libs which forced banks to give loans for homes to people who couldn’t afford them.
May I also clarify for the
Progressivetroll audience that Freddy and Fanny created a gigantic market for bad paper, so that the actual loan originators responded by “lending money to everyone”, since someone else was then going to buy the the paper.h/t Thomas Sowell, although, tut tut, I’d already had it figured in exactly the same words.
Comment by Rusty on 10/31 @ 6:20 pm #
147.Comment by RD on 10/31 @ 5:54 pm #
Not a jobless “recovery”, RD?
This is the header for JHo’s link: “http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pMscxxELHEg/SsXzzDSUSqI/AAAAAAAAGfM/PWX-2daRZ0w/s1600-h/”
Hilarity ensues when you Google it. Give or or take a few SsXzzDSUSqIs and AAAAAAAAGfMs, there’s more than likely some kiddie porn buried in there.
Everybody else found it but you. It’s not our fault you’re too stupid to follow a link.
No. Really. Tell me how the government creates jobs. This ought to be good.
Comment by JHo on 10/31 @ 6:25 pm #
Somebody mention Fannie?
Comment by Jeffersonian on 10/31 @ 6:31 pm #
The unemployment rate should be falling quite nicely…before next year’s election.
Wait, didn’t The Won’s crack econ team say it would be around 7.5% now that the porkulus package was passed? Instead, we’re at 9.8% and rising. Even on Obama’s own terms, his $800b of new debt is a failure, Snowy.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/31 @ 6:34 pm #
dicentra,
I just fixed a similar problem for my parents.
Believe it or not, your problem is too much signal strength on those lost channels.
Your receiver (the television) is only equipped to handle an input between 0 and 10 dB. My folks had two boosters in their line. Taking one out is what fixed their problem.
Now, I paid the $300 for a signal strength meter for coax so I could measure this lkind of thing, but it’s equipment I can use for other jobs too. Without knowing what the signal is on each channel, but having this problem with +11dB, you might beable to get this in line with a 5dB attenuator. It’s just a little barrel shaped gizmo that you can put in the line between the booster and the TV.
Just FWIW, signal sterngth,measured in decibels is geometric, not arithmetic. A 3dB gain doubles the strength. a 3dB loss, halves it. My folks were getting 18dB at the television. We got it down to 6 and they seem to be happy. Other htings that will result in dB losses is length of the cable, mismatched impedence (say connecting a 75ohm cable to a 200ohm one, or using 200ohm cable for a 75ohm device–the television receiver), any kind of junction, such as connecting two cables together, putting in that booster (that’s why it’s rated for 11dB–the connections added to the line to put it in robs 1 or 2 dB). If you find you have a weak signal, you can improive it by simplifying the signal path–remove splitters and other junctions that you may not need.
Final note–ther is no way to determine, with human eyes, whether the signal is too strong or too week. The television will respond the same to both. Most televisions are wired to tell you the sign is too weak, if it’s not at a usable level, even if the signal is too strong, so if it’s not giving you a measure in dB, and simply says weak, it may actually be over strong.
Comment by dicentra on 10/31 @ 6:36 pm #
sdferr:
I used something similar. It advised an omni because there are some obscure stations I’ve never heard of that have their antennas on the Wasatch range (as opposed to the Oquirrhs in the west). I noticed that all the channels I cared about came from one cluster of antennas to my west. (Even though I’m between the SL International flight path and the antennas, airplanes [heck, passing motorcycles] still interfere. Stupid planes.)
So I got the directional. (Is it still a Yagi if it’s passive?) I used to have an old hoop-shaped omni that was really weak: the directional was better. And then I boosted it by —11db, and it’s an improvement, except that those two channels disappeared. Truth be told, I was having trouble with those two channels off and on before the boost and I foolishly thought the booster would help.
If it doesn’t work without the amplifier…” that should say, obviously.
Amazing how negating words are the most likely to be left out, innit?
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/31 @ 6:37 pm #
To bring all that to close to on topic, this administration that first delayed the cutover to digital singal by 6 months because they felt the previous administration had not properly prepared the public,is unable to explain any of this to people who are trying to fix a reception problem. My folks were told by the FCC person that they spoke to, that they just might not be able to get all the channels that they used to.
Morons.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/31 @ 6:39 pm #
“I wouldn’t say that. Darleen seems to be trying her best to ‘bate it.”
Nobody can beat you, RD.
You’re the master ‘bater.
Comment by dicentra on 10/31 @ 6:42 pm #
it may actually be over strong.
Because I was having problems with those two channels before, it might be a temporary transmission problem.
This is the chain:
Passsive antenna => booster => DTV converter box => VCR => DVD => DVD adapter for coax-only TV input => TV. Old TV. Bought it in 1994 or summat.
Don’t know the ohms on my cables, but if it comes down to it, I’ll go to the trouble to find out. The cable between the box and the converter is only 1 ft.
Comment by newrouter on 10/31 @ 6:43 pm #
“this administration that first delayed the cutover to digital singal by 6 months because they felt the previous administration”
bo’s mo
Comment by dicentra on 10/31 @ 6:47 pm #
Morons.
DTV is actually worse than analog, IMO. The signal has a really low tolerance for interference: slightest upset and the sound drops out, a little more and you get pixellation. Even YouTube preserves the integrity of the sound when your processor can’t keep up with the picture.
This is especially fun when I’m trying to watch Masterpiece Mystery at 8 pm. Heavy plane traffic makes sure that half of the key words and phrases are lost. Naturally, the establishing shots are steady and clear.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/31 @ 6:53 pm #
Out of candy. Turned off the porch light.
Comment by SBP on 10/31 @ 6:56 pm #
I’m hiding out in the den because I forgot to buy candy.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/31 @ 6:57 pm #
What I’ve determined is that most folks had their old analog sets set up to handle a weak signal. Digital, however, retains its strength over a greateser distance than analog did and the greatest part of the problems, especially for those in outlying areas, are related to overstrength at the set.
Comment by Snowcone on 10/31 @ 6:58 pm #
Out of candy. Turned off the porch light.
Should be America’s new Afghanistan policy.
Comment by cynn on 10/31 @ 7:02 pm #
Darleen, an immediate comment (I am dispensing treats to tricksters) — why do you feel compelled to reveal the personal information for anyone determined to be a threat or even a contrarian? It seems sick.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/31 @ 7:05 pm #
Don’t worry about any cables that came with the tv, the converter, or you dvd/vcr. Those will certainly be matched. Any other cables, will have their type marked on the insulation. If it’s not RG-6, RG-11 or RG-59, you may have an impedence problem. I’d bet against it though.
Comes down to it, and I could send my tester to you, if you swear to send it back.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/31 @ 7:07 pm #
You see anything that’s really “personal” there? I’d be concerned also, if there were information there that would allow someone to find this character. But there isn’t.
Comment by newrouter on 10/31 @ 7:08 pm #
“Should be America’s new Afghanistan policy.”
we be dithering on dat at the moment? yes we maybe!
Comment by SBP on 10/31 @ 7:08 pm #
why do you feel compelled to reveal the personal information for anyone determined to be a threat or even a contrarian?
Leaving aside that an IP address isn’t really, “personal information”, she does nothing of the sort.
She only does it when a troll keeps switching names, or comes back after being banned.
Note that your IP address and location haven’t been posted. I guess you’re not “anyone” then, huh?
Comment by SBP on 10/31 @ 7:09 pm #
Leaving aside that an IP address isn’t really, “personal information”
Also ignoring that there shouldn’t be a comma after “really”… grr.
Comment by dicentra on 10/31 @ 7:11 pm #
RTO
Thank you for your incredible generosity! However, I might be able to find someone in my congregation who has a similar device. Also, the stations might have some insight into the problem.
I’m surprised that digital signals have greater strength over a distance than analog. Analog was using VHF signals, which were lower frequencies and therefore had longer range, right?
That’s why electronics is black magic: SO many things to take into account, and so many of them counter-intuitive (electron flow, anyone?).
Comment by Darleen on 10/31 @ 7:13 pm #
cynn
an IP address is not personal information. And as you might recall, I’ve never revealed yours.
But trolls who insist on dozens of different names are going to get a look-see.
Comment by Darleen on 10/31 @ 7:14 pm #
SBP @ 180
ha! you already covered it!
Comment by cynn on 10/31 @ 7:17 pm #
OK, just asking. It seems creepy to vet everyone that posts. I have nothing to hide.
Comment by JD on 10/31 @ 7:17 pm #
SBP and Darth – Thanks for the update. I am still doing my happy-dance. I am beginning to think I am bad luck. I gave away great seats for the game today so I could do the whole trick-or-treat thing with my angels. Seems when I go, we get shelled. Maybe I will just start not watching games altogether.
Muck Fichigan
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/31 @ 7:20 pm #
Correct. Digital, is still using the same frequencies, just transmitted in a “simpler” format (on or off) so the signal is preserved farther than the more complex analog singal.
Comment by B Moe on 10/31 @ 7:22 pm #
Especially that back stabbing weasel of a head coach.
Comment by RD on 10/31 @ 7:27 pm #
Finally. Thanks N. O’Brain, I was beginning to think the art of the set-up was dead.
Anyhoo, it’s baseball time. I’m sporting a George Will-inspired foam bowtie and rooting for injuries.
Comment by Pablo on 10/31 @ 7:34 pm #
Finally, I can agree with RD. A-Rod could use a line drive between the eyes.
Comment by JD on 10/31 @ 7:35 pm #
USC @ Oregon is a hell of a game. The Irish are abusing Wash State. Tex and OK State could still be a good game. UT is bitch-slappin’ the ole ball coach of the Cocks.
Comment by JD on 10/31 @ 7:39 pm #
Golden Tate has to be a Heisman candidate.
Comment by dicentra on 10/31 @ 7:46 pm #
RTO. Got it. The receiver only has to distinguish two states rather than many.
Comment by newrouter on 10/31 @ 7:46 pm #
“It seems creepy to vet everyone that posts.”
it seems “creepy” to vet fox news
Comment by J. "Trashman" Peden on 10/31 @ 7:53 pm #
“Out of candy. Turned off the porch light.”
Should be America’s new Afghanistan policy.
‘Specially since it work so well on the brown people in Dem inner cities.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/31 @ 7:57 pm #
You’re in no way qualified to contemplate Afghanistan policy, much less discuss it.
Comment by Wm T Sherman on 10/31 @ 7:58 pm #
I think my job is being counted as created or saved. Can’t prove it by conventional economic metrics. I’m just basing this on an itchy, unclean feeling that came out of nowhere.
Comment by dicentra on 10/31 @ 8:00 pm #
What modulation does TV use? Amplitude? Frequency? Phase?
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/31 @ 8:16 pm #
Vestigal sideband modulation.
Comment by J. "Trashman" Peden on 10/31 @ 8:28 pm #
Jobs saved or created? Must be the ones provided by Messiah’s own special giant market for useful idiots. Surely no one can deny those numbers.
Comment by McGehee on 10/31 @ 8:52 pm #
Well, if I visit a website I’m not paying for, and the people who run it want to check up on me because I’m engaging in abusive behavior, and I find that response on their part “creepy,” I’ll just avoid that site.
But then, I have an IQ above -0.π
Comment by Snowcone on 10/31 @ 9:27 pm #
You’re in no way qualified to contemplate Afghanistan policy, much less discuss it.
This from the guy who erroneously told us Obama only added 7,000 troops to Afghanistan.
As long as 6the story fits the Silly Right’s narrative, RTO?
Comment by JD on 10/31 @ 9:44 pm #
From the person who claims Barcky doubled the Afghan troop levels, and then uses a campaign promise as evidence of troop increases …
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/31 @ 9:54 pm #
What was erroneous about that figure?
February 2009, 38,000 + 3,000 = 41,000
The current number of US troops in A’stan is about 48,000.
When I subtract the lesser number form the greater, I get 7,000.
17,000 were promised in February. It hasn’t happened.
If you wish to credit those initial 3,000 to Obama, be my guest, but those orders were cut prior to January 20.
In all, this only means that GEN McChrystal would have asked for 50,0000 troops.
Well. It also means that your math skills suck.
Comment by dicentra on 11/1 @ 12:25 am #
Vestigal sideband modulation
With a side of coleslaw!
::googles::
Oh. That’s what it really is. I guess wireless LAN totally doesn’t use it. And with that we crash headlong into the limits of my RF knowledge.
Comment by dicentra on 11/1 @ 12:28 am #
Jobs saved or created?
If they give someone a $1 raise out of stimulus funds, that job counts as “saved.”
I am not making that up. That’s the real metric.
Comment by dicentra on 11/1 @ 12:34 am #
there is no escape from Bush
I was pretty sure he was happily ensconced in his Texas home, from where he leaves his body via astral projection and haunts the TOTUS.
He most definitely does NOT haunt protein wisdom or the pub.
Neener neener.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/1 @ 12:57 am #
The current number of US troops in A’stan is about 48,000.
Try again, General:
President Obama announced in March that he would be sending 21,000 additional troops to Afghanistan. But in an unannounced move, the White House has also authorized — and the Pentagon is deploying — at least 13,000 troops beyond that number, according to defense officials.
The deployment of the support troops to Afghanistan brings the total increase approved by Obama to 34,000.
The deployment does not change the maximum number of service members expected to soon be in Afghanistan: 68,000, more than double the number there when Bush left office.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/12/AR2009101203142.html
Comment by Snowcone on 11/1 @ 1:08 am #
And just in case you don’t trust the Washington Post:
The Pentagon says there are now about 65,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan, with more on the way in the coming months. There are also about 39,000 troops from other NATO and coalition countries.
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-10-13-voa43.cfm
Comment by RTO Trainer on 11/1 @ 1:08 am #
Heh.
Snocone counts his troops before they are deployed.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/1 @ 1:19 am #
Um, The Pentagon says there are now about 65,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan.
Geez, RTO, you could have graciously admitted you were wrong and retained some credibility as someone who dispenses accurate military information. You’re probably confused by the number of U.S. troops operating under ISAF control vs. the number of U.S. troops operating independently.
Instead, you chose to go the Gleen Beck idiot route.
Disgraceful.
Comment by Matt on 11/1 @ 1:24 am #
Who the fuck is Gleen Beck?
Comment by Bob Reed on 11/1 @ 1:29 am #
snowcone,
Stick to cat grooming, ‘Cuz you know NOTHING! about military matters…
What was your MOS again; AFSC, NEC, or Designator..?
Yeah, I didn’t think so; you putz…
Comment by Snowcone on 11/1 @ 1:38 am #
‘Cuz you know NOTHING! about military matters…
Except for things like, say, the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan.
Comment by Matt on 11/1 @ 1:43 am #
*Except for things like, say, the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan.*
Well yeah google. but I googled “gleen beck” and I got nothing. I’m not a spelling whore as such but come on… if you’re gonna insult a far right commentator get the name spelled right.
Lemme try. “Keith.” “Joy.” “Amanda?” “Chris Matthews with a tingle up the leg?”
Comment by Snowcone on 11/1 @ 2:23 am #
if you’re gonna insult a far right commentator get the name spelled right.
I hate to bust your bubble, sporty, but just about every wingnut blogger calls Glenn Greenwald “Gleen,” including the ones that post here.
Comment by meya on 11/1 @ 6:25 am #
Don’t forget the followup
http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2009_10_25_archive.html#3428184854191384903
Comment by SBP on 11/1 @ 6:32 am #
Translation from SFAG-speak: “Don’t forget the lying, partisan spin”.
May or may not have been a different Ayers and Wright. Definitely WAS the real Soros and Stern.
Best White House money can buy!
Comment by SBP on 11/1 @ 6:36 am #
BTW, SFAG:
1) Seen Amazon’s sales rankings lately?
2) Heard of Scozzofava, have you?
Tell us more about how Palin is irrelevant. I’m fascinated.
Comment by SBP on 11/1 @ 6:45 am #
No comment, SFAG?
Oh, well. I guess I’ll go back to bed, since I work up at the normal sidereal time this morning (i.e., an hour early clock time).
When you decide to let your alter/catamite Rilly Dumb out of that steamer trunk where you keep him in a gimp mask with a vibrator up his ass, you might remind him that this is Sunday, and that those of us with more…bourgeois…lifestyles don’t generally go to work on Sundays. He seemed confused by that a while back.
Comment by B Moe on 11/1 @ 6:46 am #
Wow. What are the odds that there would be two Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wrights, and *cough* Malik Shabazzs who were friends with the White House?
Comment by SBP on 11/1 @ 6:49 am #
That’s a racist question, B Moe, I’m pretty sure.
Comment by alppuccino on 11/1 @ 6:53 am #
Bill Ayers at the White House? A little early for Obama to start working on the memoirs, isn’t it?
Comment by Rusty on 11/1 @ 6:58 am #
Obama is tanking and all I hear from the left is, Boooooosh!
No clear intelligent defense of Obama’s policies, just whiny snark. It’s almost as if they don’t believe in the ‘Grand and Glorious “O”‘ themselves. How can this be?
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 11/1 @ 7:03 am #
Well, Snowcone, I’ll admit that you’re closer to being correct this time. I’ll just note that the Wapo article contains a correction stating that there were 36K troops in country at the end of January. You’re still a little short to claim 2x.
Comment by B Moe on 11/1 @ 7:14 am #
That 65k number Snowcone is citing is from the Voice of America. I haven’t heard that number anywhere else.
Comment by JD on 11/1 @ 7:20 am #
Snotnose will just keep claiming that there were fewer and fewer troops to begin with, and count campaign promises until he reaches the number he wants. He could care less, especially considering he wants to surrender. Dishonest coward, he is.
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 11/1 @ 7:49 am #
Even so, the upper limit for troop levels this year (according to both articles and others turned up via google) is 68K.
Since an accurate number of troops in theater is a valuable bit of intel, I don’t think we’ll ever get a solid number.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/1 @ 7:51 am #
“The idea is that those visitor logs includes anyone entering, including tourists.”
You just keep on telling yourself that, meya.
Maybe someday you’ll belive it.
Comment by JD on 11/1 @ 7:51 am #
So all of those characters just happened to be on a family vacation in DC, and went on the public tour of the White House? Are you really that fundamentally dishonest, meya?
Comment by meya on 11/1 @ 8:07 am #
“So all of those characters just happened to be on a family vacation in DC, and went on the public tour of the White House?”
You didn’t get it. Some of these names are not the “characters” you are thinking of.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/1 @ 8:19 am #
“You didn’t get it. Some of these names are not the “characters” you are thinking of.”
Riiiiiiight.
Comment by SBP on 11/1 @ 8:48 am #
And yet another reaction would be to simply laugh at your incompetent lying ass.
Seriously, SFAG, just how dumb are you?
‘Cause that’s some weapons-grade stupid you’re spouting there.
Comment by SBP on 11/1 @ 8:49 am #
George Soros is the most common name in America. We all know that. It passed John Smith some decades ago.
Comment by JD on 11/1 @ 9:07 am #
ZOMFG !!!! Meya/RD is more dishonest than I had given her/it credit for.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 11/1 @ 9:51 am #
Show me.
Comment by JHo on 11/1 @ 10:35 am #
Given the royal ass-kicking you’ve take here recently on how reality works, isn’t that just a little bit ironic.
“Wingnuttia”. While the country tells you to shove it and you stick your thumbs back in your Dumbo’s.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/1 @ 11:02 am #
Show me.
Don’t you really mean, “Don’t show me” RTO?
Washington has 65,000 troops in Afghanistan and that figure is expected to reach 68,000 later this year. Other nations, mainly NATO allies, have some 39,000 troops in the country.
http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-43304020091020
Comment by Frontman on 11/1 @ 11:02 am #
Hey, guys, I have to, by absolute necessity, sally forth today to purchase both a washer AND dryer. Will I get credit for creating jobs? It seems to be pretty easy by current standards-no telling how many I’ll at least save. Hallelujah!
Comment by RTO Trainer on 11/1 @ 11:33 am #
No. I mean show me. If you really have better information, I’d like to know it. But you have a tendency to make bald assertiosn rather than provide the supporting links. There’s also a desire on my part to evaluate the quality of the source.
I’ll concede on the current number. I found an article on the CENTCOM site that says 66,000, dated 14 October. had I not found this there, though, I’d still be disputing the number. Reuters has passed on too much bad information too often to be taken at face value.
http://www.centcom.mil/en/news/dod-cites-candor-on-afghanistan-troop-levels.html
There’s also lots of hinky math in many of the popular press articles. Most February articles on the Obama 17000, cited 35 to 38000 in country at that time. That would put the best possible figure at 55000. So don’t get your nose too far out of joint that I didn’t readily accept the number you found.
The article at CENTCOM also doubles the number I’d found previously, that the last administration cut orders for, which squares with 21,000 sent by the current administration, a number to which the initial 17,000 had been corrected. (55,000 + 3,500 /= 66,000)
At least part of the problem is that many sources dicuss “troops” and some only “combat troops.” (17,000 combat troops plus 4,000 support troops is about right which would be 21,000).
So, back to the point I made in October, if the commander says he needs 40000 more than what he’s got, why would anyone need to say thank you for less than half that added? The number currently is less inadequate for a strategy change than it was?
Comment by sdferr on 11/1 @ 11:38 am #
And what, in the case where the touted 40,000 is actually his lowest possible number though his preferred number may be 65,000 additional troops? Worse yet in that case to only offer 20,000, it seems to me.
Comment by JD on 11/1 @ 11:46 am #
McChrystal’s request is for additional troops on top of what are already there, and had been previously scheduled to go, correct?
Comment by RTO Trainer on 11/1 @ 12:03 pm #
Yes on top of what is already there and no to previously scheduled to go.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 11/1 @ 12:07 pm #
Not by informed people.
Comment by JD on 11/1 @ 12:07 pm #
RTO – Most of what the asshats have claimed to date were campaign promises, and troops previously scheduled to go.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 11/1 @ 12:13 pm #
True JD, but GEN McChrystal’s recommendation is above what he already had plus what he was slated to get.
When the troop level reaches 68,000 before the end of this year, he’ll still be wanting 40,000 more. I also haven’t read closely enough to see if this is for 40,000 troops or 40,000 combat troops. If the latter, you can add on 9 or 10,000 support troops as well.
Comment by B Moe on 11/1 @ 12:18 pm #
If you look hard enough you can probably find debate about whether the earth is flat or not.
Comment by B Moe on 11/1 @ 12:20 pm #
So the debate seems over.
Comment by JD on 11/1 @ 12:38 pm #
Meya/RD lurvs to deflect and obfuscate.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/1 @ 12:43 pm #
Worse yet in that case to only offer 20,000
That may be all the additional troops Congress wants to fund.
Comment by JD on 11/1 @ 12:50 pm #
STFU, snotnose. You want to surrender.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 11/1 @ 12:55 pm #
Because we’re always in good hands when the Congress substitutes their judgment for that of the commanders.
Comment by JD on 11/1 @ 1:18 pm #
RTO – Generally, millions of brown people die when that happens.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 11/1 @ 1:28 pm #
Yes, as well as hundreds of people in US uniforms.
Comment by SBP on 11/1 @ 1:32 pm #
In some contexts this is more true: if you’re an ISP…then that IP address is more like personal data</I
1) There’s no such thing as “more true”. True is an absolute.
2) This isn’t an ISP.
On the other hand, the IP addresses recorded by every website on the planet without additional information should not be considered personal data
Which is exactly what we’re talking about here.
Therefore, your link does not support your assertion of “debate”.
But then we already knew you were a lying crapweasel, didn’t we?
B Moe: “So the debate seems over.”
SFAG: I don’t see how
Hint: that would be because you are both stupid and dishonest. Hope that helps!
Comment by JD on 11/1 @ 1:32 pm #
Unfortunately, for things like snotnose, that appears to be a feature, not a bug.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 11/1 @ 1:33 pm #
The chickenshit nature of it is what gets me. The Congress has to approve that these men be promoted to their positions, and the Senate has to confirm the Unified Commanders as well. But despite this, they still don’t trust the judgment of the people that they decided had the judgment to be given the job.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/1 @ 1:39 pm #
Because we’re always in good hands when the Congress substitutes their judgment for that of the commanders.
It is the job the Constitution assigned to Congress.
Besides, now that the Afghan “elections” have collapsed, McChrystal’s opinion is moot.
Comment by SBP on 11/1 @ 1:47 pm #
If you look hard enough you can probably find debate about whether the earth is flat or not.
Right. “Debate” about whether “honor killings” are a good thing (they aren’t). “Debate” about whether nuclear power is too dangerous to use (it’s the safest form of energy we have. By far). “Debate” about whether socialism works (it doesn’t).
You can find people advocating the incorrect opinion on ALL of those on the net. However, there can be no real debate on any of those issues. One can only hold the contrary opinion on those by being dishonest, willfully ignorant, or so brainwashed by a barbaric religion that one is immune to reason (socialism counts as a religion in this context). Therefore, debate is useless. A proper response might involve anything from ignoring the whackjob to jailing him, but debate isn’t going to accomplish jack shit.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 11/1 @ 1:56 pm #
It is not.
Don’t see how that follows.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/1 @ 2:06 pm #
It is not.
Another swing and miss from our resident military “expert.”
The Founding fathers thought a standing American army would become exactly the kind of pork trough/fear generator the U.S. military has become.
Obama should just ask Congress to totally defund that boondoggle.
Comment by JD on 11/1 @ 2:10 pm #
There is the coward we all know …
Comment by RTO Trainer on 11/1 @ 2:14 pm #
What I said earlier about bald asssertions. There you go again.
If you think that Congress has the Constiutional authority to substitute their judgment of the Commander in Chief or any subordinate commander, then the correct way to reply would be to cite the provision in the Constitution that you believe supports your POV.
Comment by RTO Trainer on 11/1 @ 2:41 pm #
I guess he’s having trouble finding it.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/1 @ 3:51 pm #
“Comment by meya on 11/1 @ 12:28 pm #
“So the debate seems over.”
I don’t see how”
Of course you don’t.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/1 @ 3:52 pm #
“Because we’re always in good hands when the Congress substitutes their judgment for that of the commanders.”
Just look at how the Democrats lost the Viet Nam War.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/1 @ 3:55 pm #
“Comment by Snowcone on 11/1 @ 1:39 pm #
Because we’re always in good hands when the Congress substitutes their judgment for that of the commanders.
It is the job the Constitution assigned to Congress.”
Um, no, no it didn’t, you retarded marmoset.
BTW, what was your MOS, Sun Tzu?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/1 @ 3:55 pm #
“Besides, now that the Afghan “elections” have collapsed, McChrystal’s opinion is moot.”
Could someone translate that into Sane?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/1 @ 3:57 pm #
“Comment by Snowcone on 11/1 @ 2:06 pm #
It is not.
Another swing and miss from our resident military “expert.””
What was your MOS, Hannibal?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/1 @ 3:58 pm #
RTO, what’s YOUR MOS?
Comment by RTO Trainer on 11/1 @ 4:03 pm #
PMOS 25U3O, SMOS 42A3O, DMOS 25E3O
I’ll be going to school for 25E soon. If things go as planned, I’ll either apply for 25B as a civilian acquired skills MOS, or go to 25L school sometime relatively near term, so I can be awarded 25W and take a Platoon Sergeant spot.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 11/1 @ 4:05 pm #
“Platoon Sergeant”
Luck, man.
Comment by Rusty on 11/1 @ 5:03 pm #
266.Comment by Snowcone on 11/1 @ 2:06 pm #
It is not.
The Founding fathers thought a standing American army would become exactly the kind of pork trough/fear generator the U.S. military has become.
That right there is galactic quality dumb. I’m constatnly amazed you can even type.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/1 @ 8:10 pm #
I guess he’s having trouble finding it.
RTO,
Do you really think Congress doesn’t have the Constitutional right to limit how many more troops are sent to Afghanistan?
Really?
Comment by RTO Trainer on 11/1 @ 8:23 pm #
Snowcone, there’s only one way that they could do it. Do you know what that is?
Event then, having that abililty, wouldn’t make doing it right.
Comment by JD on 11/1 @ 8:26 pm #
You guys aren’t playing nice with the ‘tard.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/1 @ 8:38 pm #
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Comment by ice cream cone on 11/1 @ 9:11 pm #
I wonder if snowcoon is aware that in the months before he returned here we laughed about how stupid he is every day. It is a rare gift to be so stupid that the thought of your stupidity makes people laugh long after you’re gone.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/1 @ 9:16 pm #
Haha,
Looks like RTO had to call mommy to protect him.
Comment by Pablo on 11/1 @ 9:22 pm #
RTO, can you groom a poodle?
Comment by JD on 11/1 @ 9:23 pm #
Snotnose – Answer his simple and direct question.
Comment by Snowcone on 11/1 @ 9:30 pm #
Whose question, JD?
I trollhammer the posters I don’t pity here.
Comment by JD on 11/1 @ 9:45 pm #
Fuck off, coward. RTO asked you a simple and direct question, which will surely demonstrate your utter inanity and aggressive stupidity. Never mind.
Comment by B Moe on 11/1 @ 9:52 pm #
Michael Gibson
130 Westover Drive
Athens Ga 30606
770.601.4553
Bring it, mother fucker.
Comment by Abe Froman on 11/1 @ 10:15 pm #
I trollhammer the posters I don’t pity here.
You have a true gift for finding new ways to make an ass out of yourself.
Comment by Rusty on 11/2 @ 6:25 am #
#290
It’s that black hole of stupidity thing. It never expands. It just keeps getting more dense.
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