October 30, 2009
H.R. 3962: 1,990 pages… [Darleen Click]

links in the chain statist Democrats want to wrap around every American (but themselves).

Nancy “most transparent and ethical Congress EVAH” Pelosi made sure that only hand-picked syphocants attended her annoucement of the pending death of American medicine.

Couldn’t have nasty GOPers there

Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.), the ranking Republican on the House Ways and Means Committee, one of the committees of jurisdiction over health care, spoke with HUMAN EVENTS to go over a few particulars on the bill his press release dubbed, “Second verse, same as the first.”

“It’s still a massive government takeover of our health care system with tax increases on middle class Americans that will affect their ability to buy health care,” Camp said. “The government plan will force them out of private health care. The Medicare cuts are going to make health care less available to seniors. Fewer physicians will see Medicare patients and fewer hospitals will treat Medicare patients.”

One of the most important elements that remains in the bill is the end to private insurance.

“Because of the government-run plan, in five years you’re going to see millions of people lose the health care coverage they have now and be forced into a government-run plan,” Camp said.

That would just harsh the mellow Ms. “I’m not big on showing weakness. It’s not my thing,” That would up Nancy’s botox bills.

Americans for Tax Reform points to the 13 major tax hikes in this monstrosity, giving the page number in the document and a brief description. Tell your grannie her hearing aid and wheelchair is going to get taxed. And that heart-value your uncle needs? That, too. And your Health-Savings Accounts or Flexible-Savings Accounts? Fergeddaboutit.

Oh what a Brave New America that has a Congress willing to destroy the best medical care in the world because their lust for power takes priority.

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  1. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 8:16 am #

    I watched the Pelosi-Dingell lie-fest aka press conference yesterday. No way could she have told all of those whoppers without all that Botox.

  2. Comment by JHoward on 10/30 @ 8:42 am #

    Well, we’ll just print what we need to pay for it all, Darleen. We always had.

    Medicare: -$73,500,000,000,000
    Prescriptions: -$18,500,000,000,000

    Those be trillions. Added to all the other trillions, about a quarter quadrillion upside down.

  3. Comment by McGehee on 10/30 @ 8:55 am #

    A quadrillion here, a quadrillion there, pretty soon you’re powering the entire upper Midwest from the torque generated inside Everett Dirksen’s crypt.

  4. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 9:00 am #

    Granny McRictusface had the temerity to claim deficit neutrality, an idea now so divorced from reality so as to make it meaningless.

  5. Comment by DarthRove on 10/30 @ 9:24 am #

    I forget where I saw the breakdown (one of the feeds I browse each day), but the cost of this bill comes down to $2.1MM per word ($837 billion cost, 400,000 words).

    Think how many Broadway date nights or Boy’s Days On The Links this money could buy! Won’t ANYONE think about the Obamas and the SACRIFICES they’re making for us?!???

  6. Comment by Snowcone on 10/30 @ 9:33 am #

    Say it with me now, “Elections Matter!”

  7. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 9:36 am #

    You are a lying cowardly douchenozzle, snotnose. We will join you in … nothing. And you will like it. Now, get help.

  8. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 9:37 am #

    Now, go and look up the meanding of double, and whether or not campaign promises should count towards actual troops.

  9. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 9:51 am #

    You have to give them credit, they are willing to lie to your faces, brazenly. I guess it is easier when you have a stenographic media.

  10. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 10:20 am #

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/30/opinion/30krugman.html?_r=1

    Krugman, the demonic midget, tells the media to start doing their jobs and promote universal healthcare.

  11. Comment by SDN on 10/30 @ 10:20 am #

    Why shouldn’t they lie, JD? No one is going to do anything but talk in return.

  12. Comment by Peter Singer on 10/30 @ 10:28 am #

    Medicare: -$73,500,000,000,000
    Prescriptions: -$18,500,000,000,000

    Those be trillions.

    Got it covered.

    Voluntary Euthanasia (VE) (the person is cognizant and aware at the time and chooses this option), Involuntary Euthanasia (IE) (the person is not cognizant and aware, but has at some time indicated that they wish to die and this action is carried out only in order to cease suffering), and Non-Voluntary Euthanasia (NVE) (this is the ethically controversial situation in which the person is no longer cognizant nor aware in order to make a choice).

  13. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 10:56 am #

    How many “not-taxes” are included in this monstrosity?

  14. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 11:18 am #

    Completely off-topic, but you should all drop what you are doing and collect your finest meats, and wines, and cheeses, and give them to AJ Burnett for HE. IS. KING !

    h/t BJ

  15. Comment by ghost707 on 10/30 @ 11:41 am #

    Damn! Look at the DOW zoom past 10,000…all the way to 9700! Progress!

    Unemployment..drip..drip..drip..

    Next up on the agenda: Cap and Tax!

    Unemployment..drip..drip..drip..

  16. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 12:15 pm #

    Has anyone seen a good substantive analysis of the cash-for-clunkers program, and how it affected the 3.5% rate of growth? I read the Edmunds report, since the White House went after it, but wondered if there were any others out there, maybe that addressed how cash-for-clunkers is adversely affecting sales now. I saw that the WH claimed that Clunkers created or saved 70,000 jobs, but we all know how much BS is involved in that metric.

    Additionally, the whole created or saved over a million jobs report is due out today. Since it has already been panned by Couric, I suspect it will be roundly panned.

  17. Comment by SPC Jack Klompus on 10/30 @ 12:18 pm #

    Cliff Lee demolishes Burnett any day. Up next – Hamels owns Pettite. Phils in 5.

  18. Comment by happyfeet on 10/30 @ 12:28 pm #

    Motor vehicle output accounted for 1.66 percentage points of GDP growth.

    But auto sales dived in September after Clunkers ended. And taxpayers paid $24,000 for every extra car or truck sold, according to auto research site Edmunds.com. It said the $3 billion program only spurred 125,000 vehicle sales that wouldn’t have happened anyway.*

    and what’s worse worse even insipid vagina Mitch McConnell and his prancing band of homopublicans are supporting extending the market-distorting housing tax credit. A nation of dirty socialist fags are we I think.

  19. Comment by happyfeet on 10/30 @ 12:29 pm #

    that html thinger kind of fail to where that last paragraph isn’t supposed to be blockquoted

  20. Comment by happyfeet on 10/30 @ 12:29 pm #

    *failed* that should say and I think it’s time for lunch where’s Jeff?

  21. Comment by cranky-d on 10/30 @ 12:30 pm #

    Did you know that if $1 of stimulus money was paid to a person, that person’s job is considered “saved” by the stimulus? One dollar. Uno dolero.

    Most honest and transparent administration EVAH!

  22. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 12:34 pm #

    Cranky-d – The lies, distortions, fallacies and complete lack of understanding of economics as shown by the stimulus program is breath-taking.

  23. Comment by sdferr on 10/30 @ 12:36 pm #

    Burnett’s release point looks shaky to me, like one day he’s got it (those days he’s good, no question) and another he can’t find it to save his life. Lee looks much steadier in that regard, about as good as it gets, in fact.

  24. Comment by ghost707 on 10/30 @ 12:38 pm #

    I think the crashing dollar helped exports – I still think we export a couple of things like commercial airliners and CAT tractors, so minus all the government spending, actual GDP is up by about 1% – and even then I am not sure if that is due to the devaluation of the dollar.
    Consumer and business spending is down – so, this economy isn’t going anywhere.

    Will be interested to see what next quarter looks like, but with government spending involved, it is almost impossible to tell what is really going on.
    The Obama smoke and mirrors recovery plan – growth by borrowing and no wealth creation. Super! More debt! Fantastic!

  25. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 12:50 pm #

    Sdferr – Lee is a stud, no doubt. He is in the Carpenter, Lincecome, Wainwright category in the NL, to be sure.

  26. Comment by LTC John on 10/30 @ 12:52 pm #

    My civilian employer is valued in Swiss Francs, al hamdu ‘lillah…

  27. Comment by sdferr on 10/30 @ 12:56 pm #

    Tort reform?

  28. Comment by happyfeet on 10/30 @ 1:12 pm #

    FHA still just wants 3.5% down and people with no equity are increasingly happy to walk away from a house what’s underwater. And home values still have plenty room to fall fall fall. It’s very sad. Plus also your younger first-time homebuyer types need maximal economic mobility while our little country transitions to a tepid stagnant welfare-driven dirty socialist pseudo-economy. What if underwater homeowners in California suddenly learn that Florida or Georgia has a way more better food stamp program? Or maybe there are for real actual jobs in Kentucky where you produce actual things? They’ll have no choice but to walk away but guess what? They have to pay the little president man back the $8000 what he gave them. So they are way more stucker than they would have been without the house welfare they got. Sucks for them but for everybody, really.

  29. Comment by B Moe on 10/30 @ 1:13 pm #

    Prancing band of homopublcans is my new favorite phrase.

  30. Comment by BJTexs on 10/30 @ 1:20 pm #

    sdferr: When I read that link you posted I became enraged and started kicking the walls in my office.

    Please, please explain to me why my rage is ill considered … please … before I go out and strangle bunnies with my bare hands.

  31. Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/30 @ 1:24 pm #

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_stimulus_jobs

    650,000 jobs saved!!!!
    “Friday’s data will have its limitations, since calculating “jobs saved” will always produce an inexact estimate and collecting data from so many sources is certain to produce errors. But the number released Friday represents the most accurate head count of stimulus jobs to date, one that is more precise than previous estimates based on White House economic formulas.

    And it represents the most extensive effort ever by any administration to calculate the effect of a spending program in real time.

    “It’s a great example of the unprecedented transparency, where the American taxpayer can point and click and see their taxes creating jobs,” Bernstein said.”

  32. Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/30 @ 1:26 pm #

    By the way that article has been changed twice since I looked at it. The propaganda has been less blatant every rewrite if you can believe that. It was much worse the first time I read it.

  33. Comment by happyfeet on 10/30 @ 1:35 pm #

    Contrast your link Mr. Pink with what the dirty socialist Associated Press’ dirty socialist little propaganda whore Matt Apuzzo was saying just yesterday. That’s about as much a blatant dirty socialist whore you can be without tertiary syphilis being involved.

  34. Comment by cranky-d on 10/30 @ 1:49 pm #

    This is all such a frelling train wreck. I’m despondent. On top of that, the code I should be working on has some logic error that so far eludes me. Time to chuck it all and join the ranks of the freeloaders I guess. They have less pressure to succeed, and get to bitch constantly how other people aren’t taking proper care of them. It almost sounds like a good idea some days.

  35. Comment by sdferr on 10/30 @ 1:50 pm #

    “Please, please explain to me why my rage is ill considered …”

    I can’t, insofar as this appears to be nothing less than poking you and me in the eye with a stick all while the stick pokers exult at the ease with which they get away with it.

  36. Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/30 @ 1:52 pm #

    How long do you figure it will be till there are Chinese websites advertising American wives or au pairs?

  37. Comment by cranky-d on 10/30 @ 1:53 pm #

    Please don’t strangle any bunnies. You can strangle a few liberals, though, if you like. May I suggest Schumer and Frank to start?

    The preceding statement is of a satirical nature and is not to be construed as the endorsement of the strangling or otherwise assaulting any specific or non-specific person, no matter how much they might deserve it.

  38. Comment by sdferr on 10/30 @ 2:03 pm #

    Heh.

    “Please don’t strangle any bunnies.” [because unjust to bunnies] “You can strangle a few liberals, though…” [because delivering justice deserved]

    That whole riding-out-of-town-on-a-rail dealio isn’t necessarily the wrong thing to do, I think. We’ve gotten too used to the idea that thwacking is always the wrong thing to do. It ain’t.

  39. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 2:10 pm #

    Tort reform is fine so long as you do not actually reform torts.

  40. Comment by sdferr on 10/30 @ 2:10 pm #

    Oy. More evidence of the upside-down cart before the horse state of our political life today.

  41. Comment by cranky-d on 10/30 @ 2:14 pm #

    I don’t care about justice, I want mercy.

    My father, though he probably read it somewhere else.

    We’ve all got it coming.

    Clint Eastwood in Unforgiven.

  42. Comment by B Moe on 10/30 @ 2:14 pm #

    I am so glad we got a President with real foreign policy experience instead of that idiot Palin. Aren’t you?

  43. Comment by sdferr on 10/30 @ 2:25 pm #

    We’ve all got it coming.

    Clint Eastwood in Unforgiven.

    So is Unforgiven a gloss on the Doctrine of Original Sin?

  44. Comment by newrouter on 10/30 @ 2:46 pm #

    jeez the vending machines aren’t even safe from these commies

    link

  45. Comment by cranky-d on 10/30 @ 2:52 pm #

    It’s a movie.

  46. Comment by Snowcone on 10/30 @ 2:54 pm #

    We will join you in … nothing.

    I don’t think we need the South to run America anymore, JD.

  47. Comment by Squid on 10/30 @ 3:12 pm #

    I’m used to it not making sense, but this is nonsense taken to a whole new level.

    Seriously, we’re talking about sense measured in picoLockes.

  48. Comment by hot fudge sundae on 10/30 @ 3:14 pm #

    “I don’t think we need the South to run America anymore, JD.”

    Unless you’re speaking as a member of the under 80 IQ community you should never say “we” about anything.

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  50. Comment by McGehee on 10/30 @ 3:30 pm #

    Fudge, I think you misplaced the decimal point in your estimation of the TTP’s IQ.

  51. Comment by newrouter on 10/30 @ 3:32 pm #

    hey bill ayers and rev wright be hangin’ with de O! at the white house

    link

  52. Comment by guinsPen on 10/30 @ 3:36 pm #

    Nothin’ up my sleeve…

    Presto !!!

  53. Comment by guinsPen on 10/30 @ 3:37 pm #

    Blast.

  54. Comment by snowwinkle on 10/30 @ 3:39 pm #

    Souffle.

  55. Comment by snowwinkle on 10/30 @ 3:40 pm #

    I gotta’ get another hat.

  56. Comment by Matt on 10/30 @ 3:49 pm #

    On the upside, Obama’s recovery miracle is going to shoot my state’s unemployment up to an estimated 15%. Thanks snowcone- elections DO matter.

  57. Comment by Kresh on 10/30 @ 5:01 pm #

    I don’t think we need the South to run America anymore, JD.

    Yeah, ’cause that whole Honduras thing showed how astute O! is at “running” South America. I don’t think there’s a constitution in existence that O! won’t disregarded. Rule of Law? Pshaw. Not interfering in other countries? Pshaw. Mere laws can’t stop the O!-train baby! Woo-Woo!

    I’m starting to understand why you still have training wheels on your drive-by-trollcycle.

  58. Comment by Kresh on 10/30 @ 5:02 pm #

    HOLY CRAP! I MISREAD HIS POST!

    *facepalm*

    LOL! GIMME BACK MY TRAINING WHEELS!

  59. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 5:13 pm #

    Kresh – It desires, as does the Left, to drag everyone down to their level of misery.

  60. Comment by B Moe on 10/30 @ 5:19 pm #

    Ignorance is bliss JD. Snowcone must be euphoric.

  61. Comment by geoffb on 10/30 @ 5:47 pm #

    “It’s a great example of the unprecedented transparency, where the American taxpayer can point and click and see their taxes creating jobs, fine looking swirly smoke and wonderfully ornate, baroque mirrors”

  62. Comment by Blitz on 10/30 @ 6:08 pm #

    Honestly? I have not read the comments. I did follow the links though (well, most of them.)

    I’m not a violent person normally? Sheesh. I’m just a dad, a moron and a PATRIOT. But?…

    It’s almost time.

    We all have are our dark side to say the least
    Dealing in death
    is the nature of the beast.

    UNLEASH the dogs of war.

    They do it at EVERY turn…they do it through voter fraud, voter intimidation, downright violence!! ( biting fingers off and slashing tires and seiu crap beatdowns.

    I’ve had ENOUGH

  63. Comment by Blitz on 10/30 @ 6:19 pm #

    BTW? Happy and Happy only? Yeah, my mindset is NOT right, but hell dude, imagine if your turtles couldn’t have percs like lettuce and stuff.

    I already LOST one business to this fascist asswipe, and if I want to keep my BROTHER on the payroll? I have to PAY 76 percent of his insurance?

    Fuck that. I’d rather shoot first.

  64. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 6:20 pm #

    Did I hear correctly that the CBO clobbered the Pelosi bill and pubic option today?

  65. Comment by Blitz on 10/30 @ 6:21 pm #

    I saw something about that JD. But it was on FOX. As you know, that doesn’t count.

  66. Comment by Blitz on 10/30 @ 6:28 pm #

    And the moral of this story is…

    Next time you place your order?

    Don’t forget to say

    NO ANCHOVIES PLEASE…

  67. Comment by CabotAR on 10/30 @ 6:57 pm #

    For Snowcone: Oh yes, elections do matter..of course there are going to be more taxes to support health care.

    Among other things, it was the Tea Tax that started the American Revolution. It could happen again. I am encouraging everyone to read that new political thriller just out. It’s about a small town that finally stands up to federal tyranny (taxes) & ends up starting the 2nd American Revolution. It’s great & insightful if you want to see current day issues being forced on all of us. It’s a great read.
    http://www.booksbyoliver.com

  68. Comment by Snowcone on 10/30 @ 6:59 pm #

    Most Americans consider paying taxes their patriotic duty, Cabot.

    It’s only the spoiled brats who want government services without having to pay for them.

  69. Comment by geoffb on 10/30 @ 7:05 pm #

    Reads. Saw this link a few days ago to a story written 10 years ago that still speaks today. “The Window War”.

  70. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 7:09 pm #

    STFU, snotnose.

  71. Comment by hot fudge sundae on 10/30 @ 7:10 pm #

    Spoken like a loser parasite in the lowest tax bracket, snowcoon. As someone who leftist scumbags like yourself call “rich” I say go fuck yourself. Or fuck a goat.

  72. Comment by Snowcone on 10/30 @ 7:11 pm #

    Haha,

    If y’all don’t want to be a part of America…

  73. Comment by hot fudge sundae on 10/30 @ 7:13 pm #

    Part of America? A large chunk of the regulars here are former or active duty military. What the hell have you ever done of use to your country? You’re too stupid to possibly contribute much in taxes. You’re too stupid to contribute anything in the way of imparting wisdom to the young. You’re basically worthless.

  74. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 7:17 pm #

    STFU, snotnose. If we quit earning money and paying taxes, you would starve.

  75. Comment by Bob Reed on 10/30 @ 7:26 pm #

    It’s only the spoiled brats who want government services without having to pay for them.

    So, you’re referring to yourself and the rest of the 47% that the rest of us support? Or does car-grooming pay better than that in the Pacific Northwest..?

  76. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 7:26 pm #

    Maybe snotnose can explain for us the CBO findings on the Pelosi Plan today. But, given its demonstrated lack of ability in even basic mathematics from last night, that is prolly asking too much.

  77. Comment by Bob Reed on 10/30 @ 7:27 pm #

    car-grooming = cat-grooming

    I need to stimulatee the economy and hire a typist! I’ll create eleventy jobs…

  78. Comment by Rusty on 10/30 @ 7:27 pm #

    68.Comment by Snowcone on 10/30 @ 6:59 pm #

    Most Americans consider paying taxes their patriotic duty, Cabot.

    It’s only the spoiled brats who want government services without having to pay for them.

    No they don’t, dumbass.

  79. Comment by Bob Reed on 10/30 @ 7:28 pm #

    Definitely too much to ask JD…

  80. Comment by Bob Reed on 10/30 @ 7:32 pm #

    Most Americans consider paying taxes their patriotic duty…”

    Why do you think that only taxpayers are patriotic. Some low income folks don’t make anything. Why are you calling low income people, some of which are minorities, unpatriotic? Why are you questioning the patriotism of minorities, snowcone? Why do you hate brown people snowcone?

    RASCIST!

  81. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 7:48 pm #

    Alphie could not survive without people that work, earn a living, pay their taxes, and fund the government, as Mother Government is his umbilical cord.

  82. Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/30 @ 7:52 pm #

    Most Americans consider paying taxes their patriotic duty

    Show me.

  83. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 8:32 pm #

    RTO – It is too busy pleasuring itself to pictures of Rosie O’Donnel, Michael Moore, and a goat.

  84. Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/30 @ 8:49 pm #

    Okay, yeah. Don’t show me that.

    Bleh.

  85. Comment by Snowcone on 10/30 @ 9:05 pm #

    No they don’t, dumbass.

    Oh, look, the tiny minority within a minority party laughably thinks America shares their childish political views.

    Keep thinking that way.

    Palin 2012!

  86. Comment by JD on 10/30 @ 9:10 pm #

    It is off its meds again, arguing against the imaginary voices.

  87. Comment by ghost707 on 10/30 @ 9:36 pm #

    Most Americans consider paying taxes their patriotic duty…

    Well, that leaves out most of the current administration.

    Thanks for reminding us of all the tax cheats in Washington snowcone.

    You are actually good for something after all.

  88. Comment by Abe Froman on 10/30 @ 9:38 pm #

    It is impossible to engage in hyperbole when commenting on how stupid snowclown is. Impossible. I’m sure in high school he was voted most likely to succeed at getting his head stuck in a toilet bowl.

  89. Comment by Squid on 10/30 @ 10:02 pm #

    Does it get its allowance from Mom, the State, or Papa Soros?

  90. Comment by LTC John on 10/30 @ 10:09 pm #

    And yet all of you give it what it wants….attention.

  91. Comment by B Moe on 10/30 @ 11:16 pm #

    It’s only the spoiled brats welfare/entitlement professional Democrat voters who want government services without having to pay for them.

  92. Comment by B Moe on 10/30 @ 11:19 pm #

    Terrorists basically want attention too, LTC John. I have never much cared for the ignore them and they will go away school of thought. I understand your thinking, but wrong is wrong and needs to be called out, is what I think.

  93. Comment by ghost707 on 10/30 @ 11:47 pm #

    It’s only the spoiled brats welfare/entitlement professional Democrat voters who want government services without having to pay for them.

    Like all the super-smart hollywood capitalist movie stars that just love them some socialism – as long as you don’t touch their cash stash and they can continue to be capitalists.

  94. Comment by Snowwinkle on 10/31 @ 12:09 am #

    it wants….attention

    Well, that and magic eraser.

  95. Comment by alppuccino on 10/31 @ 3:24 am #

    Snowcone is parody. He illustrates the ridiculous with the ridiculous. The only answer is “Good one, Snowcone.”

  96. Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 10/31 @ 5:36 am #

    Is Patriotic DUTY, Komrade!

    Is Not Lynchpin Of Citizen Kontrol of Government!

    Is Not Open to Debate By Those Who Will Pay!

    IS DUTY!

  97. Comment by Rusty on 10/31 @ 6:43 am #

    85.Comment by Snowcone on 10/30 @ 9:05 pm #

    No they don’t, dumbass.

    Oh, look, the tiny minority within a minority party laughably thinks America shares their childish political views.

    Keep thinking that way.

    Palin 2012!

    When you grow up and get a job you’ll understand. Until then, ask your mom.

  98. Comment by Jeffersonian on 10/31 @ 5:10 pm #

    Most Americans consider paying taxes their patriotic duty, Cabot.

    It’s only the spoiled brats who want government services without having to pay for them.

    Where do we who want neither fit? I’m not livestock, and I don’t want to be cared for by the Central State in exchange for being fleeced at regular intervals.

  99. Comment by John Lloyd Scharf on 10/31 @ 8:29 pm #

    USPS/IRS Health Care
    Of those “50 million,” that lack insurance there were 45,000 who died without health care. With health care, 98,000 died FROM health care because of malpractice.

    The question is do we want to trust that largest corporation in the world, the U.S. Government.

    Do not expect house calls anytime soon.

    We have seen how well the government delivers on its promises and its bureaucracies pursue the money without giving us benefits on so many levels. Imagine another organ of the government that only ultimately must listen to the Secretary of the Treasury – another “service” of which is the IRS.

    http://theprogressivecapitalist.blogspot.com/2009/10/affordable-health-care-for-america-act.html

    I have listed a connection to the HR3962, a few videos, two summaries, and the new taxes coming from this health care “reform” on my blog listed above for detailed information

  100. Comment by SBP on 11/1 @ 6:33 am #

    As I’ve said before, Palin’s death panel comment drove a stake right through your little lying fascist heart.

    Not bad for an ignorant snowbilly.

  101. Comment by Rusty on 11/1 @ 7:00 am #

    Why can’t I just have the same coverage as the people I elected to office?

  102. Comment by JD on 11/1 @ 7:47 am #

    BarckyCare is already very expensive, you lying fascist. Note how they will get to keep their cadillac plans under these proposals. Since cost does not matter to you clowns, why bother being so aggressively dishonest in using it as a defense to the question posed? Congress and Barcky will be doing unto everyone else what they would never do to themselves, or their families. And meya/RD just keeps on cheerleading.

  103. Comment by meya on 11/1 @ 8:15 am #

    “BarckyCare is already very expensive, you lying fascist”

    It would be more. Believe it or not taxpayers actually pay a bit for care for federal employees. Expanding who gets this obviously expands who taxpayers subsidize. Further, some people might object that this would be a government takeover of health care — as the federal government uses its buying power to negotiate with the companies that participate in the exchange the federal employees use.

    But I don’t mean to discourage you from supporting this idea. I just think it will run into opposition that make it unrealistic. But you get how the exchange is a way to approximate this.

  104. Comment by Pablo on 11/1 @ 8:40 am #

    Note how they will get to keep their cadillac plans under these proposals… Congress and Barcky will be doing unto everyone else what they would never do to themselves, or their families.

    Clearly, the Feds won’t have their Cadillac plans subject to the 40% tax that private employers will be subject to for buying the same plan.

  105. Comment by SBP on 11/1 @ 8:53 am #

    SFAG emerged from our educational system not only deeply in debt but TOO STUPID TO LIE EFFECTIVELY.

  106. Comment by Rusty on 11/1 @ 9:18 am #

    103.Comment by meya on 11/1 @ 7:39 am #

    “Why can’t I just have the same coverage as the people I elected to office?”

    It would be very expensive. But the exchange idea is a way of approximating how federal employees, including members of congress, get health care.

    I think I see. I should pay more in taxes to get a really crappy copy of what I pay taxes on already. You don’t see the flaw in what has been proposed?

  107. Comment by Rusty on 11/1 @ 12:13 pm #

    Apparently not.

  108. Comment by Bob Galt on 11/3 @ 12:39 pm #

    There is a website at http://www.mywritertools.com that has the new Health Bill 3962 in .doc, .rtf and .pdf versions as well as a program, myWordCount, that lets you easily count and list all words and phrases in the document. It also lets you select a word or phrase and easily go to each occurence in the document. You can get the different versions of the bill at http://www.mywritertools.com/congress.asp

  109. Comment by Bob Galt on 11/4 @ 2:30 pm #

    HR 3962 Manager’s Amendment
    The newly released HR 3962 Manager’s Amendment is now at http://www.mywritertools.com/congress.asp in pdf, doc and rtf formats. The 3962 Manager’s Amendment is only 46 pages but has a very interesting section about biofuels — gee, this looks like pork so I am sure that Obama will follow through on his pledge and delete it.

  110. Pingback by Steynian 395 « Free Canuckistan! on 11/4 @ 4:27 pm #

    [...] Return: House Bill Has Potential Physician-Assisted Suicide Loophole; H.R. 3962: 1,990 pages… links in the chain statist Democrats want to wrap around every American (but themselves) …. [...]

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