Looks like a few Democrats are worried about Obama’s enemies list
A White House effort to undermine conservative critics is generating a backlash on Capitol Hill — and not just from Republicans.“It’s a mistake,” said Rep. Jason Altmire, a moderate Democrat from western Pennsylvania. “I think it’s beneath the White House to get into a tit for tat with news organizations.” [...]
Liberal Democrats (sic) have little heartburn over the administration’s attacks on Fox and Limbaugh. But the attacks make moderates uneasy — especially when they extend to the Chamber of Commerce.
Not surprising about the illiberal Dems, they run under the banner First Amendment for me not for thee. But it looks as if the statists in the White House are making “moderate” Dems nervous with their anti-capitalist rhetoric and arm-twisting.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/23 @ 7:53 am #
Scratch a leftist, find the fascist gibbering underneath.
Comment by sdferr on 10/23 @ 7:57 am #
Running articles like this, how long before Politico qualifies to get on the list? Days? Weeks? Months? Never?
The tiny trickle of melting snow in the high mountains begins.
Comment by Pablo on 10/23 @ 7:59 am #
Read Obama’s thesis, find the gibbering fascist:
Aristocracy Reborn. I’d love to see all 44 pages of that.
Comment by Joe on 10/23 @ 8:01 am #
Having an enemies list is a sign of profound weakness on the part of the Obama Administration. Demonizing Fox News? How stupid can these people be? This just draws attention to Fox News and eventually even their liberal MSM allies will break for cover (because if the Administration can do this to Fox it can do it to any of them). Chavez like behavior by the President will backfire.
He will have a list of enemies if he keeps this up and it will be a majority of voters.
Comment by Joe on 10/23 @ 8:02 am #
Pablo, I just posted that on the thread below. Pretty revealing huh? No wonder Obama is hiding his school records.
Comment by B Moe on 10/23 @ 8:02 am #
Good God, no wonder he keeps that shit under lock and key. That sounds like the drivel I was spouting as a sophomore…
in High School.
Comment by SBP on 10/23 @ 8:07 am #
Good God.
If there was ever a paper that could use a line-by-line Goldstein fisking, that’s it. This is the lit’rary JEENIUS we keep hearing about?
I hope the whole thing comes out.
Comment by sdferr on 10/23 @ 8:08 am #
Sadder still, B Moe, the report has it that he received an A- for the paper. Reward something and expect to get more of it, as the saying goes. Yay Columbia seat of learning.
Comment by TheGeezer on 10/23 @ 8:08 am #
It’s already happening…
Comment by SBP on 10/23 @ 8:10 am #
I’d also enjoy seeing Cashill do a comparison between this thesis and Dreams From My Sperm Donor</I.
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Comment by Carin on 10/23 @ 8:14 am #
I wonder what Christopher Buckley thinks of Obama’s thesis.
Comment by sdferr on 10/23 @ 8:15 am #
Tom Bevan captures one aspect of Obama’s problem:
Comment by Carin on 10/23 @ 8:23 am #
VDH has a good article on this too.
but he ends the article with a question. Is Obama gonna pull a Clinton, or forge forward? It doesn’t look good. He’d have to clean house.
Comment by sdferr on 10/23 @ 8:23 am #
And how does Barry’s media think it will save his now crispy bacon? By fixing its gaze on Roger Ailes, of course.
Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.
Comment by slackjawedyokel on 10/23 @ 8:25 am #
. . . the poor reach to me with bleary eyes and all I can do is sigh.”
If I saw bleary eyes reaching out for me, I’d be thinking H.P. Lovecraft.
Comment by Pablo on 10/23 @ 8:30 am #
Dreams From My Sperm Donor
Heh.
Comment by Neo on 10/23 @ 8:34 am #
What is this strange little man doing now?
Perhaps he should get his crayons out and copy this down … “I am not a king” … and then repeat it over and over again until it’s your time to go back to Chicago.
Comment by sdferr on 10/23 @ 8:40 am #
“What is this strange little man doing now?”
He’s declaring that “you know the other side, they just kinda, sometimes do what they’re told”.
Comment by LTC John on 10/23 @ 8:43 am #
#16 – “The Communications Director from Yuggoth”.
Comment by McGehee on 10/23 @ 8:45 am #
We should be so lucky.
Comment by Pablo on 10/23 @ 8:52 am #
Last week: “I need every one of you to get fired up again, so we can go towards the future with Creigh Deeds leading the great Commonwealth of Virginia!”
This week: The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, thump, thump, thump.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/23 @ 8:59 am #
I can haz Cthulhu?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/23 @ 9:05 am #
“The Crawling Axlerod”
“The Doom That Came To Washington”
“The Dream-Quest of Unknown Obama”
“Bill Clinton – Reanimator”
Comment by Joe on 10/23 @ 9:08 am #
Christopher Buckley is a good writer and occasionally very funny, but my guess is he doesn’t really care. He went with Obama because of Christopher Buckley’s own subjective bullshit reasons, not because of Obama as a person. Obama is a symbol for most of his supporters, not a living breathing man.
Comment by Carin on 10/23 @ 9:09 am #
Buckley, like other “moderate Republicans” went with Obama because they thought (in addition to buying into the hope and change bullshit) that he was going to govern from the middle.
That he wasn’t really a radical, yada yada yada. The thesis he wrote begs to differ, as do his actions in office.
Comment by Carin on 10/23 @ 9:10 am #
And, not that I really care about Chris Buckley. He merely, in my mind, has come to represent those “Conservatives” (cough cough) who voted for Obama.
Comment by Carin on 10/23 @ 9:11 am #
Colin Powell.
Comment by cranky-d on 10/23 @ 9:15 am #
Colin Powell was never a conservative. People wanted him to be one, but he wasn’t.
Comment by cranky-d on 10/23 @ 9:15 am #
Which is probably what Carin meant.
Comment by sdferr on 10/23 @ 9:16 am #
In much the same way, Obama has never been presidential, cranky-d. Thanks for that note on Powell.
Comment by geoffb on 10/23 @ 9:43 am #
I’d like to even see those 10 pages that were all that even Joe Klein was allowed to see. All I can seem to find are what has been quoted above in #3 and #16.
That said even those few sentences show why these things were and mostly remain hidden.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/23 @ 9:48 am #
em>The so-called Founders…<
…is where I stopped reading.
His majesty can go fuck himself right there.
Founders, Framers, Divinely Inspired men, Dreamers, Brilliants, Corner Stones all.
Showing “community organizers” how it’s friggin’ done since 1773.
Christ.
According to his The Won’s “literature”, if you give Moammar Kadafi a fucking Harvard degree you get back a Barack Obama.
History will bury this man in a pile of his own narcissistic, grievance-laden bullshit.
Somewhere in a rest home Jimmy Carter is screaming at a nurse, “I told you I wasn’t the worst President ever”!
George Bush was a good and decent man that made undeniably bad mistakes when the weight of the world was put upon him (and who the hell wouldn’t), but, 10 months in with Bammy, he now smells like a friggin’ rose in comparison.
Barack Obama. Making George Bush look better every day.
Well done Progressives.
Well done.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/23 @ 9:49 am #
HTML can go fuck itself too.
Comment by cranky-d on 10/23 @ 10:00 am #
sdferr, when he was elected, I had hopes the Obama would at least be presidential. Like most other hopes that I had for him, as few as they were, that was dashed against the rocks of hopey-changitude long ago. He has managed to not yet screw up the war on islamofascism, but I have confidence that he can change that if he only follows his instincts.
Comment by ghost707 on 10/23 @ 10:12 am #
What I am wondering is what is Obama going to give China since it is pretty obvious we are going to start defaulting on payments?
Missile technology? Integrated circuit technology? Huge chunks of Federal land (whole states maybe?)
This has gone past the point of funny now.
Comment by JD on 10/23 @ 10:14 am #
“so-called Founders” ?! Are you fucking kidding me?!
Comment by SDN on 10/23 @ 10:14 am #
You know, the Fungi from Yuggoth used to swap their brains with humans. In Bambi’s case, the human brain removal wasn’t needed.
“Cthulhu For President: why vote for the lesser evil?”
Little did we know that 53% of the country would take that seriously…..
Comment by cranky-d on 10/23 @ 10:24 am #
JD, this country was founded on slavery. The slaves were the true founders.
Comment by sdferr on 10/23 @ 10:27 am #
cranky-d, a lookback at inauguration time. And the Obama we see.
Comment by ghost707 on 10/23 @ 10:34 am #
#33 Lamont,
LOL, don’t worry about the HTML mishaps, your post lost none of it’s sound and fury.
I concur with your thoughts.
Comment by Rick on 10/23 @ 10:39 am #
I didn’t choke on the “so-called Founders” bit because I eye-rolled dangerously hard over the “shackles of hypocrisy.” Gifted writer, he is.
Cordially…
Comment by JD on 10/23 @ 10:40 am #
This clown has been talking about redistribution, economic freedom, and economic justice, and some people just refuse to accpet what a dirty little socialist this clown is.
I wish Tapper would ask Gibbs and then Barcky who they consider the Founders to be.
Comment by newrouter on 10/23 @ 10:54 am #
maybe bill ayers wrote this too
Comment by sdferr on 10/23 @ 10:58 am #
Is it becoming possible to think that the press will insist on seeing these artifacts of Barack Obama’s education and time in school, heretofore locked off beyond all reach of the public? How strange is that?
Comment by Enemy of the Statist on 10/23 @ 11:01 am #
Has anyone contacted Joe Klein at Time for confirmation of this?
Comment by SporkLift Driver on 10/23 @ 11:17 am #
High school? It looks like the crap I was seeing in 5th grade.
Comment by SBP on 10/23 @ 11:21 am #
maybe bill ayers wrote this too
Bill Ayers is a better writer than this.
Has anyone contacted Joe Klein at Time for confirmation of this?
Good point. We should probably consider this an unconfirmed leak for now.
Comment by ThomasD on 10/23 @ 11:24 am #
What I am wondering is what is Obama going to give China since it is pretty obvious we are going to start defaulting on payments?
A certain island in the South China Sea and a large swath of Siberia (Putin’s not been doing the shirtless thing to intimidate us.)
Comment by TheGeezer on 10/23 @ 11:25 am #
Heh.
Comment by sdferr on 10/23 @ 11:25 am #
Heh. We’ll be watching for queues ThomasD.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/23 @ 11:30 am #
“I wish Tapper would ask Gibbs and then Barcky who they consider the Founders to be.”
Easy. Stalin & Mao.
Just ask his Czars.
Just spitballing, but I’d bet the answer to any follow up question is, “Lenin & Marx”.
Or, I dunno…maybe Pol Pot.
Comment by JD on 10/23 @ 11:33 am #
I would love to hear their answers, Lybd. I would pay to hear someone ask him what he meant by “so-called”, and if he still believes that.
Comment by ghost707 on 10/23 @ 11:38 am #
I was thinking the shirtless poses done by Obama and Putin were for the cover photo of an upcoming novel: “Black,White and Communist; a Love Story.”
Comment by SporkLift Driver on 10/23 @ 11:52 am #
Good Crittenden article about the moonbats becoming dissatisfied with the O!. They can’t help themselves, the entitlement mentality is the cancer that is eating our seed corn*.
*Follow the link and you’ll understand.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/23 @ 12:28 pm #
Moderate Dems aren’t nervous so much as they are embarrassed I think. They’re stuck in the same party with this trashy fuckstick.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/23 @ 12:38 pm #
in the comments at Mr. Pablo’s link SarahW says…
Which, SarahW is extraordinarily sensible, so…
Comment by TheGeezer on 10/23 @ 12:39 pm #
Apparently, there is no link at Time verifyng a Klein article containing the quote. Rush Limbaugh is skeptical of the verity of this Klein article rumor. It is best to regard it as bull for now.
Comment by MarkD on 10/23 @ 12:43 pm #
Deeds is under the bus, and wrapped around the Axelrod. Who’s next? This is more fun than celebrity death watch. I don’t have time to get bored.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/23 @ 12:47 pm #
“Moderate Dems aren’t nervous so much as they are embarrassed I think.”
I was at this birthday party one time.
Nobody else came.
Guy was an asshole.
So there’s that.
But, I had to eat a lot of cake.
2010 is going to be a lot like that.
I sure hope the Huffington Post likes cake.
Snowcone can have an end piece.
Lots of icing.
Comment by JD on 10/23 @ 12:47 pm #
Let’s assume for a moment that it is a hoax. His prior comments about the Constitution being a flawed document, and his position on economic freedom/justice exist outside of this context. We are just now seeing it in action.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/23 @ 12:53 pm #
Yes… the only other thing though is who writes a 40+ page thesis as an undergrad? That’s very ostentatious at best.
Comment by ted360 on 10/23 @ 1:04 pm #
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/
Could we get a link to these “Constitution being a flawed document” statements…although, since the document has been amended 28 times since its adoption, he would seem to have a point.
If, for instance, you are talking about his opinion that the Warren Court decided not to entertain claims of economic disparity as a Civil Rights issue, I fail to understand how that statement of fact is so seditious.
The Warren Court did NOT address disparate school funding, red-lining housing policies, or a host of other economic issues. Those were left up to Congress and some enacted and most not before the counter-Revolution of 1980 happened and the country decided the Gilded Age was such a wonderful time it would be nice to go back to it.
Pointing out this fact (some Civil Rights leaders wanted to try these cases, the Court refused) is not saying the Court should adopt Marx and only partisan hacks read it that way.
Comment by RIP Ford on 10/23 @ 1:09 pm #
“although, since the document has been amended 28 times since its adoption, he would seem to have a point.”
A whole whopping 28 Amendments in 222 years would seem to make that point look pretty idiotic.
Comment by JD on 10/23 @ 1:13 pm #
Ted360 is a mental midget. The idea of “economic freedom/justice” that the likes of ted360 and Barcky speak of were anithetical to what the Founders envisioned.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/23 @ 1:13 pm #
“Yes… the only other thing though is who writes a 40+ page thesis as an undergrad?”
The kinda guy who gives away his Pell Grant to the “Che Fund” and titles his thesis, “LOOK AT ME”!
Comment by JD on 10/23 @ 1:14 pm #
I do so enjoy the drive-bys that are only here to pimp another blog. Link whore often, ted360?
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/23 @ 1:18 pm #
The Warren Court…
Jesus Christ, we need better trolls.
Comment by Neo on 10/23 @ 1:19 pm #
This memorandum from Media Matters is digusting.
They now seek to form a Progressive media cartel (if you may) that will box out those “lethal” voices at FoxNews.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/23 @ 1:19 pm #
“Pointing out this fact (some Civil Rights leaders wanted to try these cases, the Court refused) is not saying the Court should adopt Marx and only partisan hacks read it that way.”
“Economic justice” is a Marxist idea and only partisan Marxist hacks want it.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/23 @ 1:35 pm #
“a Progressive media cartel”
Sorry, I read that as a pathetic “sewing circle”.
Between the media and The White House, they can Wonder-Twin up whatever the hell bullshit stories they want.
Nobody’s buying anymore.
Cat’s been out of the bag and running around the room for a while now.
Plastic jesus and his disciples better pony up a full-on miracle quick.
Comment by JD on 10/23 @ 1:53 pm #
Neo – That was some comical reading. Brock and his ilk truly are reprehensible. It is funny how the mere existence of Fox threatens them so.
Comment by Charles on 10/23 @ 1:57 pm #
Well, it did seem to leave the commerce clause open to the wrong kinds of interpretation – the results of which are unlikely to ever be undone. That does seem to be one significant flaw.
Comment by ghost707 on 10/23 @ 1:58 pm #
America is asking “Where are the jobs?”
Everything else is just background noise. Soon, Obama will find out what the underside of the bus looks like.
I think it was Carville who said : “It’s the economy, stupid.”
Comment by meya on 10/23 @ 2:00 pm #
“The Warren Court”
And the new GOP.com lists at least one Warren court case as a “republican accomplishment.” Word.
Comment by ghost707 on 10/23 @ 2:08 pm #
meya,
Unemployment.Word.
Comment by SBP on 10/23 @ 2:10 pm #
A whole whopping 28 Amendments in 222 years would seem to make that point look pretty idiotic.
Right, especially considering that France is on its fifth attempt at starting a republic over from scratch over roughly the same time period.
t least one Warren court case as a “republican accomplishment.” Word.
Given that Earl Warren was elected governor of California as a Republican in 1942, and was the Republican nominee for Vice President in 1948, I’m pretty sure that he was, in fact, a Republican, SFAG.
Did you have a point?
Of course you didn’t.
Comment by Charles on 10/23 @ 2:13 pm #
Employment tends to be a lagging indicator. In recent recessions, it lags 18 months.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/23 @ 2:14 pm #
#74
Wheels on the bus go round & round.
I smell Kryptonite in the air.
Lefties ain’t gonna like that stink.
Smells like freedom & tax relief.
And dog farts.
But mostly freedom & tax relief.
The other part is probably the beagle sleeping on my feet.
Comment by B Moe on 10/23 @ 2:14 pm #
Only if you don’t know what the word “interpretation” means or are a dishonest, power hungry, back stabbing pack of weasels.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/23 @ 2:19 pm #
meya,
-13%. Word.
Comment by meya on 10/23 @ 2:22 pm #
“It is best to regard it as bull for now.”
Tell that to Curtis “Pookie” Jackson!
“I’m pretty sure that he was, in fact, a Republican, SFAG.”
Oh yeah I know. But what I didn’t know was that I could consider any of the Warren court decisions, much less all of them, as “republican accomplishments.”
Comment by ghost707 on 10/23 @ 2:27 pm #
Thanks for that news flash Charles.
You are missing the point. Obama has spent $trillions and nothing to show for it. We are still losing 250,000 jobs a month. By the looks of things, we will continue to lose jobs for another year, and then when we have finally hit the bottom of the canyon, there will be no paramedics there to rescue what is left of the broken bodies. No green jobs, no capital, no incentive – just taxes, spending, more taxes and CRUSHING debt.
Comment by B Moe on 10/23 @ 2:31 pm #
Look!
Bunnies!Ponies!Unicorns!POOKIES!!!!!
Comment by Charles on 10/23 @ 2:36 pm #
And yet, here we are, with a massive federal government that has been able to legislate in any area it so chooses, usually under the auspices of the commerce clause, and the states left with the legislative table scraps – exactly the opposite of what was intended.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/23 @ 2:38 pm #
Word to ya motha’ meya.
What up Pookie?
Holla’ at a playa.
Also, meya is raaaaacist!!11!!
No NFL team for you lady.
Comment by ted360 on 10/23 @ 2:43 pm #
So, that’s a “no” on you producing links, eh, “JD”?
And, had you hit my link, you’d find it’s a link to Joe Klein telling you he did not write the bs cited by Ledeen.
But, then that requires more effort than making whiny efforts to infer that our millionaire President, whose only change to the tax code so far has been to lower taxes for various middle class families, is a Commie, eh?
I asked you a question and you couldn’t answer OR click a link showing the “thesis” cited is not what it claims to be. You surely are a colossus of learning and intellect! Dammit, you know what you believe and no fact will get in the way!
As for the others,
“Perfect” = “entirely without any flaws, defects, or shortcomings” (Dictionary.com).
I don’t feel the necessity of arguing argue that a document which does not outlaw slavery or provide a Bill of Rights does not conform to that definition, I will just let you do the heavy lifting of proving the perfection of a document that was not considered perfect by the standards of the very Founders themselves (see Federalist Papers).
What crowded mantles you folks must have…what with all the iconography devoted to the worship your antiquated politics? Constitution = perfect. Founding Fathers = deities. Ronald Reagan = savior to all mankind.
Criticism of any and all will be met with holy rhetorical fire left over from the last times Conservatives believed everyone who disagreed with them was a “Commie.” I had forgotten how funny all that childish, Manichean, Bircher nonsense was. Kudos to this site for reviving it.
Comment by SBP on 10/23 @ 2:44 pm #
But what I didn’t know was that I could consider any of the Warren court decisions, much less all of them, as “republican accomplishments.”
Yeah, just because Warren, a Republican, wrote the decision in question doesn’t mean that there was any Republican connection at all.
And just because the Republicans passed the 1964 Civil Rights bill over a Democrat filibuster doesn’t mean there’s a Republican connection there, either.
See previous advice about finding a site with dumber people who might actually buy your idiotic bullshit, SFAG.
Comment by newrouter on 10/23 @ 2:45 pm #
is there anything besides health insurance that can not be purchased across state lines?
Comment by SBP on 10/23 @ 2:46 pm #
Oh yeah I know.
Oh, and I’d bet money that you DIDN’T know, or that you’d have lied about it if you had.
‘Cause you’re stupid and dishonest that way. Also a fascist anti-Semite, while we’re on that topic.
Comment by newrouter on 10/23 @ 2:46 pm #
“President, whose only change to the tax code so far has been to lower taxes ”
yea the tax on tobacco wasn’t raised not
Comment by SBP on 10/23 @ 2:47 pm #
Constitution = perfect. Founding Fathers = deities.
Do enjoy debating that straw man. I’m sure it’s ever so much easier than debating a real opponent.
Comment by ted360 on 10/23 @ 2:48 pm #
And a defense of Lochner too! Jesus, you don’t live in the 80’s; you, Charles, live pre-New Deal! We need less child labor laws and get rid of that pesky FDA! Give me more trusts and monopolies!
Gotta say, Charles, the Warren Harding of this site, has now surpassed the non-link producing and non-link reading gentleman as my favorite. Go Galt, Charles, before that pesky government comes at you by using the Commerce Clause!
Comment by newrouter on 10/23 @ 2:49 pm #
“Conservatives believed everyone who disagreed with them was a “Commie.” ”
no they’re idiot statists who think big government will give a “free” unicorn to everyone.
Comment by JHo on 10/23 @ 2:52 pm #
Prolly ted360 lost his way. Here we debate mostly the alternatives to imperfect attempts at folks living their own lives.
Comment by SBP on 10/23 @ 2:53 pm #
So, that’s a “no” on you producing links, eh, “JD”?
Here you go, “ted”.
That should be the sound of you shutting the fuck up that we hear.
Of course you won’t.
Comment by B Moe on 10/23 @ 2:53 pm #
What about people who think government redistribution of wealth is “communism”?
Comment by JHo on 10/23 @ 2:54 pm #
I take my #95 back: ted360 has its digit up the very pulse of recent convention!
Comment by SBP on 10/23 @ 2:55 pm #
#95: Right. The very notion that man is perfectible is fundamentally in opposition to the beliefs of most of us here.
Fascists like “ted” and SFAG just don’t get it. They see the alternatives as being their bunch of fascists at the helm or some other bunch of fascists at the helm.
Their minds just can’t comprehend the idea that some might prefer no fascists at all.
Comment by sdferr on 10/23 @ 3:03 pm #
Ha! Barack Obama has been a satire this whole time? Great funny fun Mr. Axlerod, kudos to you. Sheer genius. Everyone must just be so laughing and laughing at the thought.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/23 @ 3:09 pm #
Every day Barack Obama is showing how ill-prepared he is for this job he’s in. Real people are really hurting while fuckstick wets his pants about Fox News.
We deserve better.
Comment by SBP on 10/23 @ 3:14 pm #
In fact, it is because Warren wrote the decision
Yeah, just because he WROTE it doesn’t mean that he AGREES with it, or that he had any influence on it.
God, you’re pathetic.
Now I’m seeing the whole rest of the body of the Warren court in a whole new light.
Right, because in Fascist World people are either Infallible Leaders, incapable of error, or Evil Wreckers.
It’s simply not possible to admire or agree with one of a person’s actions while disagreeing with others. All or nothing. That’s the Fascist way!
Again, allow me to suggest you find a site where the people are closer to your limited mental capacity.
Comment by Squid on 10/23 @ 3:15 pm #
I don’t get it. I just want to be left alone to live my life. I just want everyone else to be free to live their own lives. I just want to keep the fruits of my hard-earned labor, and to give charitably under my own terms, as opposed to at the point of a gun.
I’ll submit to a certain amount of governance from my city and county. I’ll submit to a lesser amount of governance from my state, because my voice is so much lesser at that level. Finally, I’ll submit to a very small amount of governance from Washington DC, because it is a fetid swamp full of the very worst that mankind has to offer, because it is thoroughly corrupt and power-mad, and because it acts in contravention of my wishes and well-being, and instead acts in the interest of those who’ve bought and sold it.
When, exactly, did the desire to live one’s life on one’s own terms, to rely upon family, friends, and neighbors (instead of the State) for support when needed, and to minimize the influence of a distant and corrupt government on one’s life, become some kind of sin?
Meya? Ted? Snowy?
Comment by SBP on 10/23 @ 3:16 pm #
Because, you know, Supreme Court Justices ALWAYS write the majority opinion when they disagree with it. It’s simply a polite social convention.
Comment by Wm T Sherman on 10/23 @ 3:17 pm #
Comment by Pablo on 10/23 @ 7:59 am #
Read Obama’s thesis, find the gibbering fascist:
[...]
“… the Constitution allows for many things, but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy.”
————————————————————–
At this web site (posted at #11 in the thread below) there is a link stating that the Obama undergraduate thesis is a hoax.
http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledeen/2009/10/21/obama-and-the-constitution-he-has-his-doubts/#
Comment by JD on 10/23 @ 3:26 pm #
Ted360 – That was an impressive blizzard of strawmen that you set up and took a blowtorch to.
Squid – quit being reasonable. They know what is best for you. Submit.
Comment by SBP on 10/23 @ 3:26 pm #
Ah, SFAG. I see we’ve reached the “start making vague statements” stage of your predictable game. You’re not even a one-trick pony. More like a quarter of a trick pony, I’d say.
It is to laugh.
Comment by JHo on 10/23 @ 3:27 pm #
Or maybe flirting with disaster when you had a great thing going is just too sexy to pass up.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 10/23 @ 3:28 pm #
And a defense of Lochner too! Jesus, you don’t live in the 80’s; you, Charles, live pre-New Deal! We need less child labor laws and get rid of that pesky FDA! Give me more trusts and monopolies!
That made no fucking sense whatsoever, Ted. Lochner was a federal intrusion into a state’s power to regulate intrastate commerce. It was foreshadow of what FDR was to do 30 years later, not its opposite. Do you even know what you’re typing?
Comment by JHo on 10/23 @ 3:28 pm #
I don’t get it. I just want to be left alone to live my life.
RACIST!
Remember that rather than you living alone nicely, collectives share misery really well.
INTOLERANT RACIST!
Comment by Squid on 10/23 @ 3:34 pm #
I’m just relieved that meya finally figured out that it was the Republicans who drove the civil rights movement forward. I wasn’t sure that bit of data would ever make it into her brainmeats.
They were worth something, once. The Republicans, that is — meya’s brainmeats probably haven’t ever been worth much.
Comment by JD on 10/23 @ 3:34 pm #
Oh, ted360, I am not your little bitch, and just because you drive by and troll does not mean I will jump when you make demands. It does, however, mean I will mock you, incessantly. You nanny-statists disgust me.
Comment by Squid on 10/23 @ 3:35 pm #
Today, I’m afraid the two are hard to tell apart. Alas!
Comment by SBP on 10/23 @ 3:38 pm #
I’m just relieved that meya finally figured out that it was the Republicans who drove the civil rights movement forward.
Oh, she’ll be lying about it again tomorrow and pretending this never happened. Count on it. The RepubliKKKans = TEH RACIST! meme is engraved in her rudimentary frontal lobes far too deeply for it to ever be unseated by mere facts. Remember, this is the party that claims to be for civil rights, while having an ACTUAL KKK OFFICIAL as a revered leader. If you can swallow that, you can swallow anything.
Comment by Squid on 10/23 @ 3:41 pm #
It is my sincere wish that one day, America’s inner city residents will open their eyes and truly understand the way they’ve been used and abused by the Democratic machine. The reckoning would be interesting to watch.
Comment by Charles on 10/23 @ 3:45 pm #
You know, Ted, if the commerce clause hadn’t been so horrifically abused, you still might have the liberal utopia you desire.
For a view of what it might have looked like, I suggest you gander at Europe. Some how, 40ish independent nations, each approximating the size of our individual states, also got rid of slavery, child labor, and arguably have tougher food laws, more corporate regulation, and stronger unions. More services are provided by individual nation states, and far less at the EU level.
It’s only in relatively recent times that these autonomous countries have decided to grant certain authority and cede sovereignty to a larger European government. Much of it really is to streamline commerce (unifying on a currency). And if the EU tries to go too far, or some states try to force too much on others who disagree, the whole thing will fall apart, because their states have real authority and accountability.
So the idea that 50 far more independent states could have solved their own problems and served their own citizens, and pooled their resources on a far more limited set of issues (currency, defense, citizenship – you know, things actually listed in the Constitution), doesn’t seem so far fetched.
It’s ironic, but if the commerce clause had been respected, you might be able to choose a shiny happy liberal state, that taxes you 50%, and then nanny’s every aspect of your life, and I might be able to live in a more austere state that just leaves me the hell alone.
Comment by sdferr on 10/23 @ 3:50 pm #
What was it Baracky the politico-philosophical genius said in SBP’s link? That the Constitution
Shiny mirror that Constitution, we guess. What? Come again? Where’s the context for any of this? What is that contentless blind-spot you’re burbling over Baracky? What is the fundamental flaw? Oh, and it’s awful nice of you to slip the poor miserable thing into an “it was a remarkable” (past-tense) frame, though remarkable for what, we might still be wondering? Once more, we can’t be sure. Heck, we can’t be sure Baracky himself even knows based on this empty an expression of the matter. When it comes to the slippery though, ain’t that always the way?
Comment by JHo on 10/23 @ 3:55 pm #
Ape-poetry, sdferr. From the restaurant-reviewer.
Even Einstein was incomprehensible from time to time, such was the magnitude of his mental powers.
Comment by JHo on 10/23 @ 3:56 pm #
Or were.
Comment by geoffb on 10/23 @ 4:35 pm #
In the comments at the originating site, Sarah W is all over them asking for a source to confirm which is never supplied of course. The post is tagged as satire but the tag isn’t there exactly. You have to go to their list of satire pieces and scroll way down to see it listed as such.
Comment by sdferr on 10/23 @ 4:59 pm #
From an Insty link to Reason, a bit of light on the profession of journalism as practiced in the USA:
Comment by JD on 10/23 @ 5:23 pm #
We do know you are full of hate hate hate, RD. That you prject your ahte and anger and hate onto others says more about you than them.
Comment by JD on 10/23 @ 5:27 pm #
Typos galore – shorter version – RD is Teh SuxXor.
Comment by newrouter on 10/23 @ 5:28 pm #
“Is it true that Charles Johnson has snatched the #1 spot from Paterrico?”
well 1 1/2 good men
Comment by sdferr on 10/23 @ 5:32 pm #
I rather doubt there is anything even approaching an enemies list that could be attached to PW, but I do know in the one case and have heard in the other that both of RD’s cites have banned people here from posting on their respective (and now, perhaps disrespected) blogs. So there’s that.
Comment by JD on 10/23 @ 5:44 pm #
RD is meya’s nasty alter-ego, that only shows up after meya has taken a beating for peddling her lies, anti-semitisim, and her leftist nanny-state fascism.
Comment by newrouter on 10/23 @ 5:46 pm #
“It’s not as if PW doesn’t have an enemies list”
no pw apparently has an idiot list and you’re on it
Comment by dicentra on 10/23 @ 5:52 pm #
Here’s a reminder from Dr. Sanity about what makes people like Obama tick. It explains the otherwise puzzling decision to wage open war against Fox and talk radio.
Emphases mine.
Comment by meya on 10/23 @ 5:56 pm #
“I’m just relieved that meya finally figured out that it was the Republicans who drove the civil rights movement forward.”
Finally figured out? hey, didn’t you know that MLK was a republican? An affirmative action supporting, anti-war, pro-union, wealth redistributing commie of a republican!
Pretty soon we’ll opinions warren signed on to becoming republican achievements. Right to a public defender? yup. Gideon v. Wainwright. Miranda warnings? Yup.
Comment by B Moe on 10/23 @ 6:09 pm #
Anybody else see RD hurling his little posts over the battlements with a bad French accent?
“Go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!”
Comment by B Moe on 10/23 @ 6:21 pm #
Goddamn, meya. How fucking ignorant are you? Do you know nothing of the history of southern politics?
Comment by newrouter on 10/23 @ 6:24 pm #
“That bitter, clingy white rage is pure democrat.”
slavery, jim crowe, integration. who are the conservatives?
Comment by newrouter on 10/23 @ 6:25 pm #
“I don’t imagine it stopped right around the time that the National Review was editorializing in favor of keeping the blacks down”
louis armstrong was kept down how
Comment by B Moe on 10/23 @ 6:26 pm #
You apparently also know nothing of constructing coherent sentences, either.
Comment by newrouter on 10/23 @ 6:27 pm #
why are democrats pro slavery meya?
Comment by newrouter on 10/23 @ 6:34 pm #
“Because they want to pander to blacks, hispanics and jews and repel people bitterly clinging to the confederacy like joe wilson.”
no your ilk like to abuse people without POWER. that’s why you folks like the baracky. s+m is demorat policy
Comment by newrouter on 10/23 @ 6:44 pm #
demorats: teabaggers sucking the productive capacity of society.
Comment by SBP on 10/23 @ 6:51 pm #
Goddamn, meya. How fucking ignorant are you?
Pretty goddamned ignorant, according to what we’ve seen in this thread and others.
Do you know nothing of the history of southern politics?
She knows as much about that as she does of any other subject: zero.
Notice that she carefully ignored the embarrassing FACT that the only Klansman in Congress today, the current President pro tempore, former Majority Leader, Minority Leader, and Majority Whip, Exalted Cyclops, and Kleagle, is a Democrat.
Who do you suppose said this, SFAG?
I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side… Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.
Hint: it wasn’t a Republican.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/23 @ 6:51 pm #
Too bad president fuckstick didn’t have tits.
Comment by Blitz on 10/23 @ 6:51 pm #
Hey y’all, relly late to the party, but may I say?
This is NOT Nixonian. This is a fascist/Marxist attempt at controlling the media. SCREW The ist amendment.
As I said last night on Jho’s thread? We are SO screwed. These assholes are taking away pay from a CONTRACRED individual? Hello? UNCONSTITUTIONAL
Arrrrggghhhh…..Angry. Maybe it’s best I shutup.
Comment by SBP on 10/23 @ 6:52 pm #
Hint #2: he’s currently the senior Senator from your party.
Hint #3: You are a fucking moron.
Comment by Blitz on 10/23 @ 6:53 pm #
Ok, pretend that post didn’t exist. There are so many typos there that even a person who is proud of his? Is ashamed.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/23 @ 6:55 pm #
you’re right though Blitz our fuckstick president is definitely a pouty widdle fascist. But he’s also driven by cowardice. Things are spinning beyond what a pimptastic speech on the teevee can fick.
Comment by Blitz on 10/23 @ 6:55 pm #
Meya is NOT ignorant. Misinformed, mentally incapable of learning other points of view, utterly DENSE, but? she’s one of our more informed trolls. I say we keep her, just to point and laugh?
Comment by newrouter on 10/23 @ 6:56 pm #
America, The Beautiful : Ray Charles ‘91
Comment by Blitz on 10/23 @ 7:04 pm #
HA!! What is a Friday night w/o Happy. Hey my friend.
Cowardice is not an attribute I’d use to describe our precedent. Just to GET the job, he has balls made of steel, and a spine of titanium.
However? As we’ve recently seen, he’s never been (challenged?) before this, and all his works now? are the works of a megolomaniac, or so it seems to me.
Comment by SBP on 10/23 @ 7:13 pm #
Somebody bitterly clinging to the past, it seems. Not very proggie.
Hate to break it to you, SFAG, but Marxism is 150 years out of date, and the fascist variant is going on 100.
Comment by SBP on 10/23 @ 7:14 pm #
Your alter Rilly Dumb is still in the trollbin, btw.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/23 @ 7:17 pm #
I think he had gobs and gobs or reassuring cooing in his ear every step of the way though Mr. Blitz. He doesn’t have that anymore and he’s lashing out I think.
Comment by Hugh G. Rection on 10/23 @ 7:21 pm #
Meya, about last night — I’m sorry if I hurt you. It was unintentional. Call me.
Comment by geoffb on 10/23 @ 7:23 pm #
What is not pointed out is that one of the purposes of a political Party is to make possible the exposure and elimination of these types before they can achieve high office. They do fail at this at times but the modern (since the sixties) Democratic Party has now reached the status that the failures, the “narcissistically flawed” are now running the entire Party. They have been for quite a while but now do so openly.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/23 @ 7:23 pm #
oh. that should be gobs and gobs *of* reassuring cooing …
Comment by Carin on 10/23 @ 7:26 pm #
In 1980 Republican candidate Ronald Reagan’s proclaiming support for “states’ rights” at his first Southern campaign stop was cited as evidence that the Republican Party was building upon the Southern Strategy again
I’m a pretty strong supporter of State’s rights. I guess that makes me a racist?
Comment by Obamis XIV on 10/23 @ 7:28 pm #
L’etit c’est moi.
Comment by Carin on 10/23 @ 7:37 pm #
My favorite? Well, let’s see … who would a racist pick?
Comment by RD on 10/23 @ 7:40 pm #
Take your time, Carin. I have things to do anyway.
Comment by Carin on 10/23 @ 7:49 pm #
I’m not in the least interesting in picking a someone for the primary. Right now, there’s just no standouts. Which is fine, because a front runner NOW most certainly would be doomed. Three years to dig and pick? Now, it’s best we just focus on what a crappy job Obama is doing right now.
Comment by B Moe on 10/23 @ 8:00 pm #
Obama got elected by being Not Bush, we can just run a Not Obama.
Comment by McGehee on 10/23 @ 8:08 pm #
Given that we keep having Huckabee shoved in our faces, I can only hope you’re right.
Comment by B Moe on 10/23 @ 8:12 pm #
Is there a critical mass for stupid? Apparently not.
The only thing that scares me about this is the standards for Not Obama could be so low by 2012 that we could conceivably wind up with a President Huckabee.
Comment by SBP on 10/23 @ 8:15 pm #
2012 is a long time away. I don’t like Huckabee at all, either, but I’m oddly cheered that a loser like him is already within four points of Obama.
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/23 @ 8:34 pm #
Many who are watching Obama’s behavior are evoking the “N” word to characterize it…
You know, Nixonian…
Or, whatever…You make the call
Comment by JD on 10/23 @ 8:39 pm #
Is RD out to try to out-stupid its alter-ego meya? Why all the hate hate hate all the time, RD?
Comment by Charles on 10/23 @ 9:21 pm #
Holy…
The purpose of a political party is to expose and elimin…. FTW?
The purpose of a political party is to win seats. That’s all folks.
You think one party has a monopoly on narcissism? ego? cowardice? pandering?
The majority of effort here seems to go to saying, “Your guy sucks, he did X dumb thing. My guys rock.” “Oh yeah, well what about Y, that’s an even dumb-y-er thing your guy did.” “You can’t even argue.” “You’ve proven your an idiot.” “Oh yeah, well I’m going to call you mendouchenous for the millionth time because I think it’s clever.”
Fuck oh dear. It’s like two packs of bitchy middle school girls who pull each-others hair or knock books out of each-others hands as they pass in the hall way.
There are a few people here who actually bother to talk about ideas, or at least event. The rest of you just talk about people.
Comment by Neo on 10/23 @ 9:37 pm #
Who’d a thunk it that Obama would be a paranoid narcissist ?
OK, narcissist yes, but virtually nothing would have made you think he would opt for the bunker mentality now on display. I know I thought his passing up the FoxNews primary debate in Las Vegas was more pandering to the paranoid masses rather than an early indicator of his own paranoia of FoxNews, which now as festered into something pathological.
Apparently, that story of the auto czar invoking the “Madman theory of the Presidency” on the Chrysler bond holders wasn’t just the auto czar talking talking through his hat, but in fact was the real truth.
Comment by Jeff G on 10/23 @ 10:09 pm #
, he said, judgmentally…
Comment by SporkLift Driver on 10/23 @ 10:10 pm #
And never mind that the southern strategy was based on the premise that the racism that kept many white southerners clinging to the party of jim crow was fading out.
RD: dishonest or ignorant?
Comment by happyfeet on 10/23 @ 10:14 pm #
damn people talkers
Comment by geoffb on 10/23 @ 11:57 pm #
I think my hair got pulled.
First I said one of the purposes not “The purpose”.
Now, winning seats is a means. A means to an end. It is that end that is the main purpose of the Party. It is that end that is the thing marketed, sold, as the reason to support the Party, with money, time, labor, and votes.
The politicians are “supposed” to be the embodiment of that main purpose, that idea(s), those ideals, that the Party is organized to win the seats so as to be able to bring into fruition. They are the “face” of the idea and ideals that form the core of the Party.
If your Party sells one ideal but wraps it in a face that turns out to be inimical to that ideal then the Party loses the trust that they stand for anything other than naked power for their elite. Sell ginger ale that turns out to be piss and no one is going to trust your root beer either.
A Party is the first vetting of a candidate. Putting someone up for office says we, the Party, find this person to be suited for the office and to embody the ideas and ideals of the Party. When they don’t the whole Party suffers as people figure that that bastard is the true face behind all those pretty soothing words.
Nobody expects every politician to be the Party ideal in every way. They are humans, we often fail. However the higher and more public the office, the more that office holder is held to be the Party’s embodiment of their actual purpose. Sell us shit in pretty paper and when we unwrap it we see you are selling shit not Shinola.
Sorry to be one of those “people talkers”. I have no actual ideas, or positions to speak of being of low birth and status. Hell I never even got one of them BA’s or BS’s money being rather scarce in my family. So pull my hair anytime, what little I have left.
Comment by Snowcone on 10/24 @ 12:08 am #
You know, Nixonian…
Nixon was a pretty decent President.
Got us outta Vietnam for one thing…
Comment by dicentra on 10/24 @ 12:47 am #
You think one party has a monopoly on narcissism?
No. Politics attracts narcissists like flies to fresh manure.
However, Leftism happens to appeal especially to narcissists because it tells them that the world would be a better place If Only You Put The Right People In Charge. And a narcissist always believes that he is that right person.
Conservatism, however, holds that all power will be abused, so you’d better spread it around fairly thinly to prevent malignant narcissists (or groups thereof) from getting to much of it and imposing Yet Another Tyranny.
The perks and privileges of being in Washington are enough to satisfy ordinary narcissism (which is what the narcissists in the GOP enjoy), but only a belief in consolidating power and using it “for the public good” can really satisfy the yearnings of a truly malignant narcissist.
Comment by dicentra on 10/24 @ 12:48 am #
Got us outta Vietnam for one thing…
DON’T rise to the bait. We’ve done this round more than once already, and Tyranny In A Paper Cup is just trying to stir it up.
Because it’s all about him.
Comment by Snowcone on 10/24 @ 12:57 am #
Saying I admire Nixon for cutting and running from Vietnam is some kind of Super Sekret Trap!, di?
Comment by JHo on 10/24 @ 3:11 am #
Provided that by then we outlaw whatever media outlet we choose, more or less. Or we could regulate the Internet.
But I hope we never discuss ideas.
Comment by JHo on 10/24 @ 3:15 am #
I’d answer but to do so would be to discuss people.
You know, Charles, I used to give you credit for chipping away at the corners of the two party system. I don’t anymore.
Comment by Silver Whistle on 10/24 @ 4:41 am #
If it’s not too much like discussing people rather than ideas, why is the assumed appointment of Anita Dunn’s husband Bob Bauer causing such ripples? As consigliere to Dear Leader and thus Keeper of the Knowledge of Where All the Bodies Lie, I’m really surprised that he wasn’t White House counsel from day 1. It can’t be just a gripe about yet more nepotism – is he a well known marxist like Van Jones? I can’t find any evidence for it, and it doesn’t seem like any ginned up outrage over his appointment will result in him getting the bullet. I’m mystified. What’s the payoff?
Comment by Danger on 10/24 @ 5:23 am #
“Sorry to be one of those “people talkers”. I have no actual ideas, or positions to speak of being of low birth and status. Hell I never even got one of them BA’s or BS’s money being rather scarce in my family. So pull my hair anytime, what little I have left.”
Geoffb,
FWIW your writing displays a Master’s level of common sense and before I read that last post I was convinced that you possesed a Doctorate degree of some sort.
Keep firing!
Comment by B Moe on 10/24 @ 5:41 am #
Originally. Back when the Party actually had some say in the nomination process. With the wide open, direct election in every primary at every level the Party is a mostly just a marketing tool.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/24 @ 6:23 am #
“Comment by meya on 10/23 @ 6:18 pm #
“Oh, she’ll be lying about it again tomorrow and pretending this never happened. Count on it. The RepubliKKKans = TEH RACIST”
You fuckin shitting me? Take a look at these assholes:
http://20.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_korewprO8j1qz6f9yo1_500.jpg
That bitter, clingy white rage is pure democrat. “LBJ all the way” they’re gonna chant.”
Yep, Democrats, each and every one.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/24 @ 6:30 am #
“And he begged God for forgiveness ages ago, unlike many Republicans who continue to insist that the Southern Strategy never happened.”
It always come down to this: a Republican, in one Presidential campaign, used the “Southern Strategy”.
Never mentioned it the history of the Democrats reaching back to before the founding of our nation supporting slavery, sessesion and segragation.
“…it wasn’t the GOP that opposed the Emancipation Proclamation. Nor was it the GOP that opposed the Thirteenth Amendment prohibiting slavery, the Fourteenth Amendment guaranteeing equal protection, or the Fifteenth Amendment guaranteeing voting rights. (In fact, Republicans voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act in greater percentages than did Democrats.)
Moreover, it wasn’t the Republican party that opposed Teddy Roosevelt’s anti-lynching legislation or that filibustered or otherwise opposed more than a dozen other anti-lynching provisions during the 20th century.
Republicans didn’t institutionalize Jim Crow, implement school segregation, or establish poll taxes and literacy tests to keep non-whites from voting. Bull Connor, George Wallace, Lester Maddox, and Orval Faubus weren’t Republicans.
It wasn’t a Republican who ordered the internment of Japanese-American citizens (or Italians or Germans) during World War II. Nor were Republicans behind the Chinese exclusion acts or licensing requirements that discriminated against non-white businesses and tradesmen.”
-Peter Kirsanow
Fuck you, you gormless popinjay.
Comment by McGehee on 10/24 @ 6:31 am #
And the fact all that civil-rights legislation owed its passage to Republicans, they weren’t about to break down the doors to the GOP’s tent.
…if tents had doors.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/24 @ 6:36 am #
I will never understand why blacks let the Democrat party to treat them like political lawn jockeys.
Comment by JD on 10/24 @ 7:04 am #
Fuck you, meya/RD. Your pernicious brand of mendacity is tiresome.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/24 @ 7:15 am #
” If you think states have the right to act with impunity in the murder of 3 yankees, two jews and a black guy – then yeah, probably that’s racist.”
Ah, the infamous KKK murders.
Democrats, one and all.
Proud, meya, real proud.
Comment by B Moe on 10/24 @ 7:21 am #
Is meya under the impression that LBJ was a popular President?
Comment by SDN on 10/24 @ 7:38 am #
I’m always against slavery, whether plantation, collective or madrassa. Unlike Copperheads, who still support slavery today. meya is a prime example.
Comment by Patrick Chester on 10/24 @ 7:48 am #
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Comment by Snowcone on 10/24 @ 12:57 am #
Saying I admire Nixon for cutting and running from Vietnam is some kind of Super Sekret Trap!, di?
She didn’t say it was hidden at all, Snowy. You’re rather… predictable.
Now run along now and feel all warm and fuzzy at this response.
Comment by Rusty on 10/24 @ 8:03 am #
maya. The guy you voted for is a facist and you’re no better. Now beat it.
Comment by Rusty on 10/24 @ 8:05 am #
#184
Honest to god nobody here cares what you think. You’re a joke in a paper bag.
Comment by Snowcone on 10/24 @ 8:06 am #
She didn’t say it was hidden at all, Snowy.
No trap, I can assure you.
I just find it hard to hate former presidents.
We all deserve a few Mulligans in life.
I’m even warming up to W. lately.
Comment by JD on 10/24 @ 8:07 am #
Quitting, and leaving millions of dead brown people in their wake, is some kind of victory for alphie/snotnose/parsnip/sniffles/Neville/monkeyboy.
Comment by meya on 10/24 @ 8:19 am #
“Is meya under the impression that LBJ was a popular President?”
Or that he was a democrat. Like the KKK murderers.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/24 @ 8:37 am #
“Comment by meya on 10/24 @ 8:19 am #
“Is meya under the impression that LBJ was a popular President?”
Or that he was a democrat. Like the KKK murderers.”
AH, the scales begin to fall from your eyes.
Comment by sdferr on 10/24 @ 8:45 am #
Oh great Allah, forgive the fallen man:
Without the help of men like Rudin and women like Shepard, Baracky’s got nothing, and he knows it (and so, it seems, do they). This is his most important battle, this fight for the minds of his press and in winning them, the minds of the great unwashed to whom they carry the message.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/24 @ 8:52 am #
“President Truman’s civil rights program “is a farce and a sham–an effort to set up a police state in the guise of liberty. I am opposed to that program. I have voted against the so-called poll tax repeal bill. . .. I have voted against the so-called anti-lynching bill.”"
-Rep. Lyndon B. Johnson (D., Texas), 1948
U.S. Senator, 1949-61
Senate Majority Leader, 1955-61
President, 1963-69
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/24 @ 8:53 am #
“Mr. President, the crime of lynching . . . is not of sufficient importance to justify this legislation.”
–Sen. Claude Pepper (D., Fla.), 1938
Spoken while engaged in a six-hour speech against the antilynching bill
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/24 @ 8:54 am #
THIS one is extra special:
“Anyone who has traveled to the Far East knows that the mingling of Asiatic blood with European or American blood produces, in nine cases out of ten, the most unfortunate results. . . . The argument works both ways. I know a great many cultivated, highly educated and delightful Japanese. They have all told me that they would feel the same repugnance and objection to have thousands of Americans settle in Japan and intermarry with the Japanese as I would feel in having large numbers of Japanese coming over here and intermarry with the American population. In this question, then, of Japanese exclusion from the United States it is necessary only to advance the true reason–the undesirability of mixing the blood of the two peoples. . . . The Japanese people and the American people are both opposed to intermarriage of the two races–there can be no quarrel there.”
-Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1925
President, 1933-45
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/24 @ 8:56 am #
NPR needs to either be officially defunded, getting it’s operating revenues instead from donations like PBS, or cleaned up-have it’s ideological listing corrected…
Personally, I’m on Board with the PBS-like solution. Let all of the liberals across the nation support Garrison Keiler, Rudin, Shephard, and the rest…
Besides, why do we need NPR anyway? Especially since the proliferation of cable TV and public access channels in every region, NPR seems like a useless appendage. Much like the Kinston decision, it seems designed to benefit only one end of the political spectrum…
Comment by geoffb on 10/24 @ 8:56 am #
I don’t see it as so wide open at any level. At the precinct, county and State levels the leaders at those levels choose/recruit who they want to be on the ballot. That is the basic vetting to the effect that this person is one we, the local party leaders find competent and qualified for office. An outsider can challenge in a primary and get on the ballot but they then are the face that the primary voters wanted not the one that the Party selected.
The Party is a brand. The candidates represent that brand. Who they are and what they do affect what that brand is seen to be in the eyes of the general voting population. When the candidates get too far from what the Party base voters are supporting then there is a crisis in the Party. The NY-23 race is an example. So was the McCain Presidential candidacy. If the base or the Party leaders get too far from what the general population wants then the Party either declines, gets a new base or leadership, or hides from view what they, the leaders or base, truly are in some way.
In the Republicans the argument is between some of the leadership and the base over whose ideals are closer to those of the general population.
In the Democrats, the base and the leadership are aligned. Their problem is with keeping what that alignment is hidden from the general population. At least hidden long enough to get in a position where it will no longer matter as they will have the power to not have to cater to the general population but can order them to cater to the Party instead. Healthcare reform and Cap & Trade are the vehicles to obtain that power.
The so called “Blue Dogs” were the cover to get this far. Now they are the problem in forcing things to the conclusion that the base and the leaders wish. Dealing with that problem is exposing the “Gibbering Fascist” that has been there in leadership and base for many years. Their real brand is being taken out of the pretty wrapping, finally. What they have vetted for all along is showing through. It ain’t pretty.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/24 @ 8:56 am #
Need any more, meya?
Comment by geoffb on 10/24 @ 9:00 am #
Danger,
Thank you for your kind words, and thank you and all your buddies for the hard work you are doing everyday to defend the freedom of our nation. I feel blessed that there are men and women like you doing that job.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/24 @ 9:06 am #
meya, you know that “Bull” Connor was a Democrat, don’t you?
Comment by sdferr on 10/24 @ 9:07 am #
Rutenburg linked above at 15:
Comment by geoffb on 10/24 @ 9:12 am #
#207,
Rudin and Shepard either do not know what exactly transpired during the Nixon Presidency and completely buy the spin that passes for it’s history. Or more likely are simply being true to their own narrative’s spin on that era that they have successfully sold all these years. Rocking that boat is not healthy for them. It could start taking on water.
Comment by sdferr on 10/24 @ 9:16 am #
I vote for “are simply being true to their own narrative’s spin on that era that they have successfully sold [themselves] all these years.” geoffb.
Comment by geoffb on 10/24 @ 9:18 am #
And it is known where believing your own hype takes you to in the end.
Comment by sdferr on 10/24 @ 9:20 am #
However that may be, the actual historical questions are entirely second or third order, and act here as diversions or to patch up the fraying narrative. They aren’t in the least useful for examining what is actually happening now with the Obama media strategy. Which, is the point. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.
Comment by JHoward on 10/24 @ 9:25 am #
Is meya under the impression that LBJ was a popular President?
Is meya under the impression that the South was so hellbent on bringing slavery to the North that it mounted the Civil War? And that states think?
Why yes, yes meya is.
Comment by geoffb on 10/24 @ 9:36 am #
Agreed sdferr. I just think it is amusing to see an apology for making an allusion to something which happened mostly in their own manufactured historical narrative.
One thing that appears to be happening that didn’t so much during the 8 years of Clinton is leaks from within the administration. The Clinton ship was very leak tight. Obama seems to be having leak problems. Their response could very well put them right into the line of the so called “history” of Nixon. Now that would be amusing if it wasn’t also so terrifying.
Comment by McGehee on 10/24 @ 9:39 am #
Democrat, 1882-1945
Comment by McGehee on 10/24 @ 9:39 am #
/gilding teh lily
Comment by sdferr on 10/24 @ 9:45 am #
I wonder what the furious pace they maintain will do in the long run as well? Will sheer exhaustion burn out such a one as Axlerod, who must be quite frantic trying to keep so many hand-grenades juggling in the air without a one let fall to the ground, all while staring that necessary eventuality stark in the face? My suggestion? (As was the case with Nixon, I might add.) Pep pills.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/24 @ 9:48 am #
Don’t worry, McGehee, I got more.
Comment by geoffb on 10/24 @ 10:01 am #
They are already showing the personality traits of tweekers. I hate to think what adding meth to the mix would bring about.
Comment by sdferr on 10/24 @ 10:02 am #
Jen Rubin says:
She makes the verbal mistake of substituting “can control” for “must control”, I think.
Whether the White House “can” is an open question and we shall see in the events. Whether the White House “must” is not an open question and that fact is built into their every act.
Comment by B Moe on 10/24 @ 10:03 am #
The amazing thing is, he doesn’t even have to lie about what they are doing.
Comment by SBP on 10/24 @ 10:08 am #
RD: dishonest or ignorant?
Yes.
Comment by sdferr on 10/24 @ 10:14 am #
They have to be clear with the objects of their strategy. Their message is too important to be clouded, too important to take the risk that the News Orgs the need might misunderstand. Hence:
Comment by sdferr on 10/24 @ 10:14 am #
they need
Comment by geoffb on 10/24 @ 10:33 am #
“Nice little News business you got there, be a shame if anything happened to it.”
Mob rule has usually been thought of as anarchy. This is getting to be the other type of “mob rule”.
Comment by sdferr on 10/24 @ 10:35 am #
“…as anarchy…”
Um, not really anarchy so much as the tyranny of the majority, usually swept up by their emotions, which in turn, have a kind of arche to them.
Comment by A simple mind on 10/24 @ 10:53 am #
Meya: Site your source for Dr. Kings views for the redistribution of wealth, please. Thank you.
Comment by sdferr on 10/24 @ 11:05 am #
“John Kenneth Galbraith said…”
Ah, Galbraith said it and it was so. Gotcha.
Comment by sdferr on 10/24 @ 11:10 am #
Who knew that the great saint wrote pablum? I confess I had not paid nearly enough attention to have known. So thanks for bringing it to my attention.
Comment by Darleen on 10/24 @ 4:47 pm #
sdferr
it is unfortunate that a person who is brilliant, insightful and inspiring on a particular subject believes it translates into brilliance and insightfulness on others.
Comment by dicentra on 10/24 @ 7:02 pm #
You gots to read this magnificent piece by Velociman on the same subject.
I’m sure he’d appreciate any tips on micro-hydro water turbines as well.
Comment by B Moe on 10/26 @ 5:57 am #
How come King never gets accused of being a God-bothering theocrat?
Comment by David R. Block on 10/26 @ 10:42 pm #
Charles Johnson has earned most of those enemies. Banning folks for being Christian (whether explicitly creationist or not), for any disagreement, no matter how minor, for things said at other blogs that JUST MIGHT be construed to be critical of Charles or LGF, for not considering Charles’s “excommunication” of Robert Spencer, Pam Geller, et al to be a rule of law and say anything nice about them at all.
Comment by David R. Block on 10/26 @ 10:44 pm #
B Moe,
Because many assume him to be a Democrat.