October 14, 2009
“Remember the Americans are just across that little river” [Darleen Click]

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Related: Quebec Med. Specialists support legalizing euthanasia

A majority of Quebec’s medical specialists are in favour of legalizing euthanasia and believe the public also supports the idea, according to an Ipsos Descarie poll released Tuesday.

Of 2,025 medical specialists who answered a poll on the subject, 75 per cent said they were “certainly” or “probably” in favour of legalizing euthanasia, as long as the practice were strictly regulated.

Strictly regulated? You mean like Britain’s Pathway Plan? Yeah, that one’s working out quite well.

Barrette says the debate over euthanasia is similar to the one 20 years surrounding legal access to abortion.

He said doctors hesitated to perform abortions despite the wishes of the public.

“Society was ahead,” he said. “Doctors came after, and then governments legislated much later after [the] Superior Court had to rule [ on the issue],” he said.

A clear law on euthanasia is needed, Barrette said.

Oh my. If I recall correctly, pro-lifers are dismissed – with much mocking and derision – for even trying to argue that abortion is just a slippery slope to things like infanticide and euthanasia.

And there we have it.

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  1. Comment by Salt Lick on 10/14 @ 4:59 am #

    …that abortion is just a slippery slope to things like infanticide and euthanasia.

    It’s a utilitarian thing, Darleen; you wouldn’t understand. Homo sapiens are just well-evolved animals, without the tags (for now).

  2. Comment by Joe on 10/14 @ 5:29 am #

    I like the Eskimo plan of using melting ice flows and putting the old folks on them. It can escallate as global warming increases. Say, how old is Al Gore?

  3. Comment by Eben on 10/14 @ 5:48 am #

    Death is the solution to all problems. No man – no problem.

  4. Comment by SDN on 10/14 @ 5:59 am #

    As John Ringo had his Lefties in Space group “The Church of Ryback” say in the Prince Roger series:

    “The problem with biospheres is they occasionally develop intelligent life.”

    To which my response is, “Clearly, that doesn’t include you.”

  5. Comment by TheGeezer on 10/14 @ 6:19 am #

    Coming soon to a govwernment near you.

    I feel like I’m in a bad sci-fi movie circa 1965. But I am almost 60…

  6. Comment by JeffS on 10/14 @ 6:34 am #

    “A clear law on euthanasia is needed, Barrette said.”

    Fine, Barrette. You go first.

  7. Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 10/14 @ 7:12 am #

    Only a tortured soul would say that society was “ahead” in choosing to terminate life (potential or not).

  8. Comment by Alec Leamas on 10/14 @ 7:13 am #

    I saw this coming . . . take, on the one hand, people who regard animals as morally equal to humans, and, on the other hand, the expression of being “humane” to a dog in its later years . . . mix in dwindling resources in a ‘National Health Service,’ and there you have it.

  9. Comment by LTC John on 10/14 @ 7:18 am #

    “Runner” .

  10. Comment by Darleen on 10/14 @ 7:26 am #

    Alec

    What does it say about a society that values a stray dog more than it does a human fetus?

  11. Comment by Darleen on 10/14 @ 7:26 am #

    …or a human over 65 y/o?

  12. Comment by Eben on 10/14 @ 7:30 am #

    Beloved husband.’ ‘Beloved wife.’ I wonder what it means.

  13. Comment by Joe on 10/14 @ 7:34 am #

    Carousel!

  14. Comment by SBP on 10/14 @ 7:35 am #

    Soylent Green is people.

  15. Comment by Salt Lick on 10/14 @ 7:44 am #

    Back when I was a young Liberal in the 70’s, Gaia was an awe-inspiring, tempestuous, and beautiful lover. These days she’s all about tidiness, little cars, and avoiding ugly people.

  16. Comment by The Sanity Inspector on 10/14 @ 7:51 am #

    Better start printing up some of those “Doctor please don’t kill me” cards, like they have in Dutch hospitals.

  17. Comment by Alec Leamas on 10/14 @ 8:08 am #

    What does it say about a society that values a stray dog more than it does a human fetus?

    Nothing good – the insidious part is that an individual can project idealized human qualities upon a dog, but in the next breath can say that determining that a viable child in utero might have human dignity is above anyone’s ‘paygrade.’

  18. Comment by sdferr on 10/14 @ 8:11 am #

    “…about a society that values…”

    Two things.

    Societies don’t. Individuals do.

    And Values. Again.

  19. Comment by Brock on 10/14 @ 8:14 am #

    Let me take a contrary view. You know all those Lefties who keep threatening to move to Canada but never do? Now there’s a Plan B, and they won’t be coming back from it or ranting on MSNBC at us from their flat in Toronto.

    Salt Lick- That’s because Gaia is you.

  20. Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/14 @ 8:15 am #

    Simple Green is people.

  21. Comment by The Sanity Inspector on 10/14 @ 8:51 am #

    Oh my. If I recall correctly, pro-lifers are dismissed – with much mocking and derision – for even trying to argue that abortion is just a slippery slope to things like infanticide and euthanasia.

    The Great Liberal Death Wish

  22. Comment by McGehee on 10/14 @ 8:57 am #

    take, on the one hand, people who regard animals as morally equal to humans, and, on the other hand, the expression of being “humane” to a dog in its later years

    If it weren’t so scary it could be funny.

  23. Comment by Salt Lick on 10/14 @ 10:52 am #

    Salt Lick- That’s because Gaia is you.

    Actually, Brock — No, she’s not. And I know me better than you do.

  24. Comment by Neo on 10/14 @ 11:38 am #

    The upside, if the US has euthanasia laws .. Robert Byrd and Ted Kennedy would have been forgotten by now.

  25. Comment by paisana in Atlanta on 10/14 @ 6:24 pm #

    I remember something by Vonnegut -a short story I think and probably written a long time ago-the premise of which is an old guy surrendering to the euthanasia department, the reward being a final meal in The Green Roof restaurant. Wouldn’t that have been a Howard Johnson and has anyone heard of this story?

  26. Comment by guinsPen on 10/14 @ 6:36 pm #

    Don’t know the story, but HoJo’s are orange.

    Final meal? All-you-can-eat Fried Clams.

  27. Comment by Ming on 10/14 @ 6:37 pm #

    Infanticide? Really, you think that’s just around the corner, eh? Yes, mock-worthy.

  28. Comment by geoffb on 10/14 @ 6:48 pm #

    Bill Knapps I would think, they had green roofs IIRC.

  29. Comment by Alec Leamas on 10/14 @ 6:48 pm #

    Infanticide? Really, you think that’s just around the corner, eh? Yes, mock-worthy.

    I seem to remember Precendent Brak voting against measures to, you know, outlaw infanticide.

    Also:

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/03/abortion.live.birth/index.html

  30. Comment by geoffb on 10/14 @ 6:56 pm #

    Or perhaps it’s just the logo I’m remembering.

  31. Comment by JD on 10/14 @ 6:58 pm #

    Ming mungs goats.

  32. Comment by Darleen on 10/14 @ 7:20 pm #

    Ming

    I guess you’ve never heard of Princeton “ethicist” Peter Singer?

    Singer argues that newborns similarly lack the essential characteristics of personhood — “rationality, autonomy, and self-consciousness”[31] — and therefore “killing a newborn baby is never equivalent to killing a person, that is, a being who wants to go on living.”

    And maybe you should check out that infanticide is already part of the protocol in the Netherlands.

  33. Comment by geoffb on 10/14 @ 7:24 pm #

    Oh, Ming mungs goats
    On O! snow dotes
    And little progs they lie-lie
    They dive into the poo, they just do-ooo

    Thanks JD

  34. Comment by JD on 10/14 @ 7:42 pm #

    No problem, geoffb. Did I mention I met Ernie Banks today?

  35. Comment by geoffb on 10/14 @ 8:20 pm #

    Cool. Great player and all around guy. Not my team or league however, Tigers were of course.

  36. Comment by Rusty on 10/15 @ 4:56 am #

    #27
    What do you think late term abortions are.

  37. Comment by Scott on 10/15 @ 1:22 pm #

    …that abortion is just a slippery slope to things like infanticide and euthanasia.

    Infanticide….isn’t that what happens to the poor things that by some twist of fate survive an abortion??

  38. Comment by Ming on 10/15 @ 4:48 pm #

    So Darleen, you’re predicting legal infanticide here in the US? Any time frame on your prediction?

    You have to look at history with a narrow lens to think infanticide is, in any way, on the rise in the world. You might want to look up the origins of the word “decimate”.

  39. Comment by sdferr on 10/15 @ 5:08 pm #

    “…history with a narrow lens…”

    Really? We’re there killings of children — grown children not just infants though infants were also killed — on anything like the order of killings of children in the 20th century in any century prior to the 20th? I rather doubt it. Time moves and things change, and not always for the better. Had someone suggested to citizens of 1890 Germany or 1910 China, to pick a couple of years at random, that their nations would be the centers of mass killings like the world had never seen within the next 80 years to come, they would not have believed a word of it. And yet it did come to pass. Such mass killings have become the hallmark of the 20th century in fact. Why then would infanticide not be included in those numbers and if so, why would that not have shown a terrible rise from the previous century?

  40. Comment by Ming on 10/16 @ 2:24 pm #

    In ancient history, infanticide likely ran 15%-50%, depending on the culture. So yeah, as a percentage of population, it’s trending way down as the standard of living increases world wide. Birth rates also decline as women get access to education and, you know, “special” rights.

  41. Comment by sdferr on 10/16 @ 2:27 pm #

    “…infanticide likely ran 15%-50%…”

    Horseshit.

  42. Comment by B Moe on 10/16 @ 2:32 pm #

    In ancient history, infanticide likely ran 15%-50%, depending on the culture. So yeah, as a percentage of population, it’s trending way down as the standard of living increases world wide.

    So what would you consider an acceptable level?

  43. Comment by JD on 10/16 @ 2:40 pm #

    When ming is not munging, it is asspulling.

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