I don’t know how you put somebody in who was as crackerjack as General McChrystal, who gives the president very solid recommendations, and not take those recommendations if you’re not going to pull out. If you don’t want to take the recommendations, then you — you — you put your people in such jeopardy …
…said by Dianne Feinstein.
Wow.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/13 @ 12:38 am #
I must be really tire, cause I think I agree with Feinstein. That like, never happens.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/13 @ 3:00 am #
I think she’s just calling for Obama to begin our inevitable withdrawal from Afghanistan now.
because Obama’s an idiot.
You forgot that last part.
Comment by Carin on 10/13 @ 4:17 am #
Because he promised to retreat from Afghanistan during the election, right?
Comment by Roland THTG on 10/13 @ 5:09 am #
Because he promised to retreat from Afghanistan during the election, right?
That was a really long time ago. Besides, all the Minus Eight’s. promises have expiration dates. Fortunately, so does he, 2012.
Comment by SBP on 10/13 @ 5:27 am #
Sooner or later you’re going to have to admit that you elected an incompetent loser, NippleNut.
Why not sooner?
Otherwise you’re going to turn into DataDave. Remember him? Still screeching about Reagan 30 years later.
Just admit your mistake and move on. Otherwise it’s going to eat up your insides.
Comment by SBP on 10/13 @ 5:31 am #
My stomach is also turning at the idea of agreeing with Dianne Feinstein on anything.
Comment by B Moe on 10/13 @ 5:41 am #
I think you are an idiot.
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/13 @ 5:57 am #
“I think she’s just calling for Obama to begin our inevitable withdrawal from Afghanistan now.”
On the contrary snowcone, far from it…
It’s the first time in many years taht I can remember not only not being infuriated with one of Sen. Feinstein’s public pronouncements, but being in a position to commend her for her position…
And, when an older lady, from peacenik San Francisco, has bigger stones than the pusillanimous POTUS, that doesn’t bode well for our nation…
Our enemies can smell Obama’s weakness…To them it smells like…Victory!
Comment by happyfeet on 10/13 @ 6:03 am #
We need a good leader.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/13 @ 6:08 am #
Did commenter number 2 actually have a point or was he just pooping on his keyboard?
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/13 @ 6:16 am #
How quickly the “real war Bush took his eyes off of that was totally indespensible” became the “war that must end now regardless of the outcome!”. What has changed? Really I am curious and do not want to believe the country was being lied to for a political benefit for the last 6 years by the left. No way that could be true so there has to be another reason. Like they have some super secret information noone else has or something.
Comment by Salt Lick on 10/13 @ 6:19 am #
This makes me wonder if Obama has decided to increase the troop level, quietly, and they’ve asked Feinstein to draw some of the Left’s fire.
What’s Obbie got that Di wants?
Comment by happyfeet on 10/13 @ 6:19 am #
I think there’s real truth in the idea that if our dipshit little president tool is hell-bent on turning our little country into an impoverished third world dirty socialist backwater then we need to withdraw all of our soldiers from everywhere. No one should die for an impoverished third world dirty socialist backwater what is a fundamentally unserious little country. I sure as hell wouldn’t.
Comment by Pablo on 10/13 @ 6:22 am #
In that case, we need to bring the CIA home too. And prosecute them, probably.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/13 @ 6:26 am #
The dirty socialists corrupted our CIA gaywads well before the little president man was even a glimmer in Daddy Soros’ eye.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/13 @ 6:30 am #
A little country what has treated Honduras the way ours has simply can’t be trusted to play a decent role on the international stage. The hopes are noble but they are baseless. Our little country is become scummy and oppressive.
Comment by serr8d on 10/13 @ 6:40 am #
Feinstein, in the video (right before the fold @1:50), said something along the lines of ‘not shooting from afar’ and maybe favoring the counterinsurgency plan that Gen. McChrystal doesn’t favor, but the stinkin’ video editor ‘folded’ at her answer. Seems Feinstein herself disagrees with General McChrystal,too; which is right up her political alley.
Then, she’s tinkling around the idea of a ‘moderate’ Taliban, a lefty myth I think. There is no moderate Taliban, but some Taliban might pretend for gameplay, knowing how easily duped our Democrats are.
I think the ‘crackerjack’ reference is to Obama’s Nobel prize. An unintended funny, Feinstein.
But Feinstein wants to pull out, bottom line, and this is simply pressure on the president to shit or get off the pot.
Comment by sdferr on 10/13 @ 6:44 am #
“…‘not shooting from afar’ and maybe favoring the counterinsurgency plan that Gen. McChrystal doesn’t favor, but the stinkin’ video editor ‘folded’ at her answer. Seems Feinstein herself disagrees with General McChrystal,too”
I don’t think so serr8d. The not shooting for afar bit falls in this sentence “And I think the counterinsurgency strategy, which means protecting the people, not shooting from afar, but securing, taking, holding, and providing security for a period of time is really critical…”
Comment by SBP on 10/13 @ 6:44 am #
Even CBS Marketwatch is making fun of Presentdent Loser.
Comment by serr8d on 10/13 @ 6:48 am #
“Is really critical”. That’s what she’s saying, then.
“Not shooting from afar” isn’t gonna please our snipers and drone operators, though, two of the most effective methodologies we have.
Comment by SDN on 10/13 @ 6:49 am #
I agree with Feinstein? Book your ski holiday in Hell now!
Comment by sdferr on 10/13 @ 6:50 am #
“Not shooting from afar” is more likely her ignorant senator shorthand for indirect fires, I think, not snipers.
Comment by Pablo on 10/13 @ 6:51 am #
The counterinsurgency plan is McChrystal’s. The “shooting from afar” counterterrorism plan is Biden’s favored option. She’s sgreeing with McChrystal.
There is no moderate Taliban, but there are certainly those who are aligned with the Taliban because 1) They’d rather not die and 2) They’d like to be in good favor under a Taliban regime. I’d guess that there are lots of them, and they can be peeled off if there’s a reasonable chance of them not having to deal with the Taliban. But if it looks like the Taliban are going to come out on top, it should be no surprise that they would be allied and fight alongside them. See Anbar/al-Qaeda.
Comment by sdferr on 10/13 @ 6:55 am #
Who were the other panelists? I think I see Jack Keane and Sen. Chambliss(?), but is that right and who is the balding guy front right? Kinda looks like Rep. McGovern?
Comment by Pablo on 10/13 @ 6:56 am #
We’ve got to get the job done there, and that requires us to have enough troops that we’re not just air raiding villages and killing civilians which is causing enormous problems there.
Comment by Pablo on 10/13 @ 7:00 am #
Yup, that’s him. Here’s a transcript.
Comment by sdferr on 10/13 @ 7:00 am #
Right, “air-raiding” villages, firing howitzers on compounds — so close air support and indirect fires in support of ground troops under fire, actions that may take or have taken the lives of nominally innocent bystanders.
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/13 @ 7:02 am #
serr8d,
I’m prety sure that Feinstein is on board with the counterinsurgency plan that McChrystal has outlined, and was more than amused at her rejection out of hand of Biden of Arabia’s idea of pulling out and shooting from afar-i.e. cruise missile “diplomacy”…
“< I think General McChrystal, who is one of our very best, if not the best at this, has said a counterterrorism strategy will not work. The president said to us very clearly, just as you said, George, we will not pull out.
Now, if you’re going to stay, you have to have a way of winning. The question is, what is that way? And I think the counterinsurgency strategy, which means protecting the people, not shooting from afar, but securing, taking, holding, and providing security for a period of time is really critical.”
So I think she “gets it” with regard to the strategy difference. Now as long as she is as clear on the need to, as Cap’n Ed pointed out, be promoting the control of local Pashtun leaders over the Taliban alternatives-and it sounds like she is-then we should all be happy that a major lefty sees the situation clearly, and not simply through election goggles…
Maybe she is providing the once with cover from the nutroots and code pinkos, so that he can feel free to increase the troop levels as needed; and maybe it’s a backhanded slap at the other left-wingers like Pelosi et al, letting them know that the party, and indeed the nation, will be ill served by what will be viewed as a retreat by folks at home and abroad…
I for one was relieved to hear her come out so forcefully in favor of the General’s reccomendations…
Comment by sdferr on 10/13 @ 7:05 am #
That transcript has a small problem mislabeling comments, this one by McGovern for instance: “KEANE [not Keane]: Well, I think adding more — more American forces to — to Afghanistan would be a mistake. I think it would be counterproductive. And I think there’s a strong case to be made that the larger our military footprint, the more difficult it is to achieve reconciliation. And, quite frankly, it’s been used as a recruiting tool by the Taliban”
Comment by LTC John on 10/13 @ 7:07 am #
Somehow we won in Iraqi despite the best efforts of the Harry Reids, Nancy Pelosis and Jack Murthas. I would think the same is an available option in the “necessary war” too. That even some politicians with a “D” after their name recognize this is a good thing.
Comment by LTC John on 10/13 @ 7:08 am #
#30 – ah, the old “all we are doing is recruiting more terrorists” meme again, eh?
Comment by sdferr on 10/13 @ 7:11 am #
McGovern says:
The War Resolution says:
Comment by happyfeet on 10/13 @ 7:14 am #
I hope you’re right LTC but the little president man has shown boundless enthusiasm for perverting honest efforts into dirty socialist policy vehicles. We are not in good hands.
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/13 @ 7:14 am #
Clearly a successful overall strategy will be to surge forces as McChrystal recommends along with both hiring the amenable Pastun “mercenary warriors”, like in Anbar with the Sunnis, and buying up the poppy crop for the next few years; both measures accomplished by simply outbidding the usual Taliban suspects…
While it sounds like a sketchy formula, it worked in Iraq until the situation could be stabilized; maybe the same would be true in Afghanistan. And it has the benefits of actually being cheaper, in blood and treasure, than killing all those mugs, establishing a good ebntree and rapport with the provincial Pashtun warlords, and it helps remove at least part of the source of heroin and opium from the world pipeline.
Seems like a win-win to me.
Comment by sdferr on 10/13 @ 7:16 am #
What’s an “ebntree”?
Comment by happyfeet on 10/13 @ 7:16 am #
I have to go to court today for little mugger guy’s preliminary hearing and I’m grumpy. It’s practically skid row where you have to go not to mention you have to be there by 8:30.
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/13 @ 7:17 am #
ebntree is “entree” with a typing error sdferr…
Comment by sdferr on 10/13 @ 7:21 am #
Sorry Bob, it’s just that with exotic tribal customs in the mix of strategic calculation I get a little slower decoding typos.
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/13 @ 7:22 am #
happyfeet,
I’d refrain from giving the judge any lectures about dirty little socialists and their Hungarian muppet overlords, or any variation of that, ‘cuz you never know where others sentiments lay…
The judge could be one of the “society oppresses them and drives them to become gang bangers and mug folks” kind of hand wringer.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/13 @ 7:23 am #
I have to go to court today for little mugger guy’s preliminary hearing and I’m grumpy.
Nothing gets rid of the grumpies like throwing something heavy like an Oscar or a Grammy at a mugger. I’d go with the Grammy. More put-yer-eye-out potential.
Comment by Darleen on 10/13 @ 7:24 am #
When I voted to use force to go to war after 9/11, I think I and everyone else in Congress voted to go after Al Qaida. That was our enemy.
Oh good lord…that’s kind of like targeting just the specific army divisions that do an invasion and ignoring the rest of the military and the country that fields it.
Comment by Darleen on 10/13 @ 7:26 am #
calm, happy, retain your calm. Don’t be late, no editorializing and always use “your honor”.
you’ll do fine
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/13 @ 7:27 am #
That’s OK sdferr, I know what you mean…
I actually gave O!%Co the benefit of the doubt when I first heard mention of the cartoonish notion of “moderate” Taliban that they really were referring to the Pashtun chieftans. But, unfortunately they were not it seems.
Still, I’m optimistic that Feinstein gets it, and through her high visibility public statements will force Obama to toe a better policy line-so to speak. I have to say that her knowledgable discussion of the situation went a long way towards dispelling my notion that she was a dovish foreign policy lightweight-it impressed me a lot.
Comment by JD on 10/13 @ 7:29 am #
Happyfeet – Tell Detective Smith I said hello.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/13 @ 7:29 am #
you’re right, Bob I have to watch myself when I get there… I’ll have to just be very terse and to the point… in and out. oh. The little mugger guy is not an unsympathetic little guy it’s just better that he not know the taste of freedom I think. He’s a very ill-equipped person is my sense.
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/13 @ 7:29 am #
Yeah happy, what Darleen said; consider yourself a Brooklyn “honor” student…
“Yes, your Honor…No, your Honor…I didn’t know, your Honor…”
Comment by happyfeet on 10/13 @ 7:31 am #
I sure will JD… he has to be there or it all goes very wrong to where the best they can do is give me a head start before they let him go.
Comment by JD on 10/13 @ 7:33 am #
LOL. You should find a way to get dirty little socialist Hungarian muppet into the Court record.
Comment by Joe on 10/13 @ 7:35 am #
Did Amanada Maracott slip me a hash brownie because I must be high. Hey wait, that is not my wife in bed with me, that’s, that’s…AMANDA!!!! AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!
Comment by Joe on 10/13 @ 7:38 am #
I actually gave O!%Co the benefit of the doubt when I first heard mention of the cartoonish notion of “moderate” Taliban that they really were referring to the Pashtun chieftans. But, unfortunately they were not it seems.
I assumed that too. There are so many Pashtuns that we do have to peel some Taliban away to make any plan work. But it seems like they are going for appeasement, not Anbar II.
Comment by sdferr on 10/13 @ 7:42 am #
Chambliss says:
That italicized bit makes me stop and wonder, is this true? It may be the case that the Afghanis fighting against us are “better” than the Iraqis who fought us in Anbar, say, but that could be merely due in the final analysis to experience/terrain (call it high lung capacity + light kit vs. low landers + heavy pack-load), which may not translate into forming durable governmental institutions like regularized Armed Forces and Police. I mean, reading is kinda fundamental, and from what I’ve understood, Afghanis don’t and Iraqis do.
Comment by Joe on 10/13 @ 7:50 am #
sdferr- From what I have read, Afghans are better fighters than Iraqis. I have heard they are braver, more willing to face harm. Even Marines give grudging respect to the Taliban fighters they have encountered (I recall phrases like undisciplined, and not well trained, but brave and they do not bolt when the shit hits the fan). Fortunately the other tribes in Afghanistan who hate the Taliban and Pashtuns like to fight too.
Comment by Joe on 10/13 @ 7:51 am #
I am sorry the Rockies fell.
Comment by sdferr on 10/13 @ 7:53 am #
I could grant all that Joe and it wouldn’t make a dent in the question at hand, I think.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/13 @ 7:54 am #
“#Comment by Snowcone on 10/13 @ 12:52 am #
I think she’s just calling for Obama to begin our inevitable withdrawal from Afghanistan now.”
Brave, brave Sir Snowcone!
Comment by Eben on 10/13 @ 7:59 am #
LTC
The somehow part of your statement is easy to figure out. Bush stopped playing politics and let army do what it wanted under a competent commander. Viola, victory.
But first you have to want victory, and Obama wont use the ‘v’ word and the ‘military’ word in the same sentence.
Comment by Joe on 10/13 @ 8:00 am #
sdferr, you may be right. I agree reading is fundamental for building a modern state. I have a feeling Afghanis on a whole pretty much only care about smoking opium, drinking tea, and dragging around dead goats on horseback.
Oh yeah, and those Pashtuns love to screw young boys too. Corrupted by Alexander and the Macedonians no doubt.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/13 @ 8:06 am #
“#Comment by Joe on 10/13 @ 7:51 am #
I am sorry the Rockies fell.”
I’m not.
ON TO LOS ANGELES!!!!!
Comment by Joe on 10/13 @ 8:13 am #
N.O’Brain, well good luck. I just do not want to see the Yankees win the world series. The quicker they fall the better.
Comment by Eben on 10/13 @ 8:15 am #
Um, Obama already won the World Series you racist.
Comment by Pablo on 10/13 @ 8:58 am #
Joe Torre beating the Evil Empire in the WS would be delightful.
Comment by Joe on 10/13 @ 9:22 am #
Obama beating al Qaeda would be pretty good too.
Comment by hf on 10/13 @ 9:25 am #
Lots of LA Times readers. This place is crawling with dirty socialists.
Comment by sdferr on 10/13 @ 9:38 am #
I have begun to wonder whether Pres. Obama, in light of his speeches and professed belief in a vigorous national humility before the equal nations of the world won’t soon be withdrawing the United States from its seat as a Permanent Member of the UN Security Council? How can the United States make a rational claim to such an exalted status? Isn’t it time, in fairness, for a Zimbabwe, say, or a Venezuela to hold a Permanent seat for the next 70 yrs?
Comment by hf on 10/13 @ 9:42 am #
Sounds fair to me. Why does everyone here look like Jon Gosselin? (Sp?)
Comment by hf on 10/13 @ 9:57 am #
No one brought muffins.
Comment by Squid on 10/13 @ 10:01 am #
I have some pecan shortbreads I can share.
Comment by geoffb on 10/13 @ 10:08 am #
I do not view Democrats like Feinstein as having the countries interests first in their heart. Power for the Party is always the job #1.
They were happy as hell to ride Obama and the far Left train to a majority status. Run those “Blue Dogs”, rail against corruption, against deficits, against BOOSH! Now Obama’s actions look likely to be a train wreck for the Party. Time, they believe, to start backing away from Obama while trying to get him to tag along for the good of the Party. Party not country.
They are getting hit where it hurts, right in the power mania.
Comment by geoffb on 10/13 @ 10:09 am #
country’s not countries.
Comment by B Moe on 10/13 @ 10:14 am #
Works for me.
Comment by geoffb on 10/13 @ 10:14 am #
I do so love Snowcone. A perfect encapsulation of the Left’s position and methods. A beacon of idiotic, shining bright. Warning all of the perilous shoals of left-think.
Comment by sdferr on 10/13 @ 10:20 am #
Admissions of desperation will get you no where B Moe.
Comment by sdferr on 10/13 @ 10:26 am #
But I hasten to add, Knowshon
rocksbronks!Comment by geoffb on 10/13 @ 10:39 am #
I reiterate.
A beacon of idiotic, shining bright. Warning all of the perilous shoals of left-think.
Comment by geoffb on 10/13 @ 11:16 am #
“against the non-believers”Snowcone is BB? lol.
Comment by sdferr on 10/13 @ 11:24 am #
We can now begin to see the fruits of Obama’s conciliatory approach to Russia, selling out US missile defense plans and reneging on US agreements with Poland and Czechoslovakia … namely, nada, zip, zilch, zero.
It’s nice, that smart power, giving to get nothing.
Comment by Snowcone on 10/13 @ 11:38 am #
giving to get nothing.
How much did scrapping a faulty defensive shield for Europe save American taxpayers, sdferr?
Or aren’t conservatives allowed to consider such questions.
Comment by Pablo on 10/13 @ 11:59 am #
Who cares about money, snowhole? You spend what you’ve gotta spend, right? O!
Comment by happyfeet on 10/13 @ 12:41 pm #
32 months. Him and the nice district attorney lady did a deal so I didn’t have to say anything. It would have been a 3rd strike and many many moons in the big house but this way he stays a two-striker. Sort of a waste of half a day but it’s ok. They really should have someone what brings muffins though.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/13 @ 12:42 pm #
Did we decide about Afghanistan?
Comment by Matt on 10/13 @ 1:22 pm #
I thought Afghanistan was the “just war”. Or the “good war”. Or whatever. snowcone, after all the talking in the past 8 years of “finishing the mission” in afghanistan by democrats, how can you possibly argue pulling out the troops. Were the democrats lying about it being a ‘just war”?
Comment by B Moe on 10/13 @ 1:24 pm #
That’s nice. 32 months should be enough time he can learn to pick locks or hot wire cars and he won’t have to be a common mugger when he gets back out.
Comment by Danger on 10/13 @ 1:27 pm #
Congratulations Feets,
Snowjob has given up on Afghanistan and declared war on Florida, I think he’s afraid of Tim Tebow.
Comment by newrouter on 10/13 @ 1:29 pm #
does smart power have a reset button
Comment by geoffb on 10/13 @ 1:30 pm #
Define “we” or answer will not be possible. Too many different we.
Comment by newrouter on 10/13 @ 1:31 pm #
“I thought Afghanistan was the “just war””
did you look at the expiration date
Comment by geoffb on 10/13 @ 1:31 pm #
Hillary gave it to the Russians I believe.
Comment by newrouter on 10/13 @ 1:31 pm #
we is not the same as we-we is it
Comment by Frontman on 10/13 @ 1:42 pm #
The key to Florida is Orlando. The Greeks knew it, the Carthaginians knew it, and now you know it. Take Orlando in a classic pincers movement, you can’t lose!
Comment by geoffb on 10/13 @ 1:44 pm #
Depends® on the political side. Wee-wee is a very progressive thing.
Comment by sdferr on 10/13 @ 1:47 pm #
Mike Yon on Afghanistan today:
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/13 @ 1:50 pm #
“How much did scrapping a
faultyworking defensive shield for Europe save American taxpayers, sdferr?”$3 Trillion dollars less than it will take to pay for World War III.
Ah, to be young and stupid.
But, alas, you’ll be 13 years old next year Snowcone.
Everything changes.
Comment by sdferr on 10/13 @ 1:53 pm #
Ah, I see by Lamont’s having quoting him that this moronic assertion monkey asked me a question. Pity he wastes his efforts thus, but thanks Lamont for hammering the stupidity down yet again.
Comment by newrouter on 10/13 @ 1:57 pm #
“”We’re not going to be the party of angry white guys,” [Republican U.S. Sen. Lindsey] Graham said to more shouts.”
chill out
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/13 @ 2:35 pm #
“Just because the war in Afghanistan made a little more sense than our crazy Iraqi adventure doesn’t make it “just.””
Oh fuck you.
FUCK. YOU. You sniveling, spoiled child.
All warm under your blanket of complete and utter dumb at night because better men that you have shed their blood to make something that utterly worthless in an American possible.
Your comment makes Obama, and all democrats on capitol hill treasonous LIARS.
You are a sad definition snowcone.
That’s all you are & nothing more.
Comment by JD on 10/13 @ 2:46 pm #
Obama said this was the war he was uniquely qualified to win based on his superior judgment. Yellowsnow thinks that victory is surrender. It is a pathetic coward.
Comment by mojo on 10/13 @ 2:53 pm #
DiFi, while partisan, is not as stupid as the Junior Senator. She at least realizes that the CiC sets goals, and theatre commanders decide how to carry them out. This President has no observable talent for strategic thought, so he should stay far away from operational planning.
Comment by Cave Bear on 10/13 @ 2:56 pm #
Comment by Snowcone on 10/13 @ 2:41 pm #
That’s right, Lamont, yell and stamp your feet.
Maybe nobody will notice Afghanistan is a pointless war.
*********
This is a joke, right? I mean, if this cockholster is serious, he has to be the biggest case of weapons-grade stupid since “datalessdave” was around here…
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/13 @ 3:00 pm #
“That’s right, Lamont, yell and stamp your feet.”
Oh Dear Leader, no!.
He campaigned on the “just” war assclown.
You might try and keep up while “I yells and stamps me feet”.
The short bus will pick you up at six.
Comment by JD on 10/13 @ 3:19 pm #
So the Left was lying when they were bitching about how we should listen to the generals. Good on you for admitting to your dishonest use of a war to serve your political ends, you fucking coward.
Comment by Matt on 10/13 @ 3:22 pm #
*Maybe nobody will notice Afghanistan is a pointless war.*
But its a war Obama pledged to win. And its a war the democrats wanted us to concentrate on instead of “wasting time” on Iraq. I simply want you to acknowledge this was what democrats were telling us for years.
Personally, I think long term nation building in Afghanistan is pointless- few natural resources, very tribalized country make sustainable growth and prosperity an iffy proposition. However, its a country where islamic terrorism will grow and prosper if we’re not around.
And there is no way you’ll get us to say its a “pointless war” where young men and woman from the US died and are still currently there, carrying out the mission.
*Our generals in Afghanistan are like obese cooks deciding whether their buffet needs a few more gallons of pudding or not.*
And yet you are not fit to shine their boots. So what does that say about you ?
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/13 @ 3:27 pm #
“What is “strategic thought” when you are outspending your opponent at a ratio of over 1000:1?”
Goes in hand in hand with being outnumbered 1000:1
Get going snowcone. You’re gonna miss the short bus.
I’m serious.
Otherwise, Child Protective Services will have to come get you.
CPS might have pudding, but you don’t want them to see you wearing your Afghan burqa do you?
Comment by Abe Froman on 10/13 @ 3:28 pm #
Oh for crying out loud, can everyone just trollhammer this bleeping imbecile already?
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/13 @ 3:39 pm #
Love to.
I need the trollhammer thingy-ma-bob though (dunno how to do it).
Comment by Abe Froman on 10/13 @ 3:49 pm #
Here you go LYBD.
Comment by JD on 10/13 @ 3:53 pm #
That you keep lying about what the General said is of no surprise, you cowardly turd-burglar. Mel/Bob/Danger/LtC John/wishbone and all of the rest have toe-jam that is exponentially more honest, smart, and honorable than your fucking cowarldy pathetic self.
Comment by Spam Heap on 10/13 @ 4:00 pm #
Fort Ord. Twenty-nine Palms. Camp Pendleton.
Those seem like a lot o’ votes. And relevant.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/13 @ 4:00 pm #
JD #114
Damn straight.
Comment by sdferr on 10/13 @ 4:01 pm #
Abe, somehow the jingle of Pavlov’s bell seems to ring in the air whenever the idiot assertion monkey appears on the scene. Sad to say, the reflex works in both directions.
Comment by Spam Heap on 10/13 @ 4:02 pm #
Sorry. Just getting back to the original Feinstein comment.
Comment by newrouter on 10/13 @ 4:09 pm #
TrollHammer
here
Comment by alppuccino on 10/13 @ 4:14 pm #
“Our generals in Afghanistan are like obese cooks deciding whether their buffet needs a few more gallons of pudding or not.” mused Snowcone as he rolled a big chunk of his own earwax between thumb and forefinger, preparing it for much anticipated consumption.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/13 @ 4:21 pm #
Oh, and happy, I’m sure you’re mugger will have plenty of opportunities to reflect on his bad decisions in life. Assuming that Obama hasn’t denounced and banned all inmate horniness, that is.
Comment by JeffS on 10/13 @ 4:28 pm #
I learning to just ignore Snowcone. Takes a little practice, like ignoring the urge to scratch your ass in public. But it’s doable.
Frankly, I doubt that Obama has the guts to face down the Dhimmicrats on Afghanistan — I gather that he views the world outside the United States as one continuous distraction from his agenda to “rebuild”* America.
Still, Feinstein offers a glimmer of hope on this matter. But the wild card remains O!bama, who is the (unfortunately) legally elected leader of the United States. I say “unfortunately” because his narcissism, coupled with his ineptness as a leader and lack of experience, is a danger to America.
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*: Except that O!bama defines “rebuild” as “tear down”.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/13 @ 5:01 pm #
“Comment by Snowcone on 10/13 @ 11:38 am #
giving to get nothing.
How much did scrapping a faulty defensive shield for Europe save American taxpayers, sdferr?”
How much did defending Europe from the Soviets during the Cold War cost, you retarded marmoset?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/13 @ 5:02 pm #
“Comment by happyfeet on 10/13 @ 12:42 pm #
Did we decide about Afghanistan?”
That snowcone is a moron.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/13 @ 5:03 pm #
“Were the democrats lying about it being a ‘just war”?
Yes.
It’s what reactionary leftists do.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/13 @ 5:05 pm #
“Comment by Snowcone on 10/13 @ 1:44 pm #
I thought Afghanistan was the “just war”.
Just because the war in Afghanistan made a little more sense than our crazy Iraqi adventure doesn’t make it “just.””
Oh.
A hybrid surrender/assertion monkey.
Got it.
Comment by newrouter on 10/13 @ 5:09 pm #
“How much did defending Europe from the Soviets during the Cold War cost, you retarded marmoset?”
communist stooge
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/13 @ 5:12 pm #
And snowcone?
You’re not good enough to lick my son’s combat boots.
Comment by SBP on 10/13 @ 5:31 pm #
Turns out the Soviets were never coming.
Liar.
They also set up and financed the fucktarded leftbot cult that you’re still parroting, 60 years post facto.
Comment by Makewi on 10/13 @ 6:28 pm #
The Soviets “didn’t come” to a lot of places starting around 1920 or so. It’s much easier to deal with snowcone if you realize that facts are not an important aspect of argument to him.
Comment by serr8d on 10/13 @ 7:11 pm #
I wondered about this a couple times at work today…
Hardly seems adequate, 32 months.
I wonder, when he gets out all pumped-up and hyper angry at the world and feels that ‘get even now!’ feeling, if his third strike is gonna really hurt somebody bad this next time?
Tell me ‘feets, did you look him in the eye, and if you did, did you see contrition or fear or…blankness?
Comment by happyfeet on 10/13 @ 10:01 pm #
I couldn’t see him well from across the room. I wonder too.
He had a much better affect in court than when I met him. Well, obviously. But it seemed a hopeful sign that he at least knows how to yes sir and no sir at appropriate times.
What I think I’m left with: He got very very lucky today. Maybe that’s to a purpose. It’s very likely I think. But… I think like that. He has work to do if my little philosophy is to be vindicated so he better get busy.
Comment by SDN on 10/14 @ 5:44 am #
Guys, when you accept the notion that Sam Adams was right, that there are people living here who are “no longer our countrymen”, snowblower and Copperheads in general become much more obvious.
Comment by sdferr on 10/14 @ 8:29 am #
Michael Yon with a comment that leans against Sen. Chambliss’ assertion that training Afghani Army and Police will go more quickly than in Iraq: