How so … so … twentieth century …
via Hope for America
Eric at Classical Values examines the very disturbing behavior on the part of the Obama Administration’s “can’t we all get along” push in the United Nations with the consequences of elevating so-called International Law over the American Constitution.
While it’s bad enough that most countries are sorely lacking in the free speech rights we take for granted as our birthright, there is a well-established clique of professors and activists in this country who don’t believe in free speech, and this will play right into their hands.
Eric links Anne Bayefsky , Frank Gaffney and Eugene Volokh all sounding the alarm on the gathering assault on free speech. Gaffney:
What is news, and deeply troubling at that, is the fact that President Obama and his administration are now formalizing this ominous alignment in international forums like the Human Rights Council. According to the past writings of Harold Koh, the former Yale Law School dean who is now the U.S. government’s top authority on international law and its application domestically, “norms” like the new Human Rights Council resolution should supercede U.S. laws and even the Constitution.The Ethics and Public Policy Center’s extraordinary Ed Whalen cites a 2004 essay by Koh, entitled “International Law as Part of Our Law,” as approvingly setting forth the transnationalist view that “Domestic courts must play a key role in coordinating U.S. domestic constitutional rules with rules of foreign and international law, not simply to promote American aims, but to advance the broader development of a well-functioning international judicial system.” Toward this end, Koh believes that, in several circumstances, it is “appropriate for the Supreme Court to construe our Constitution in light of foreign and international law.”
The conclusion seems inescapable: In yet another expression of the President’s arrogance, he and his administration are in the process of willfully promoting an agenda at odds with not just the Constitution but the larger national interest.
Stanford is not the first university – ostensibly institutions dedicated to free speech and inquiry – to quash speech it doesn’t agree with. And the statists on the Left have never been comfortable with individual political freedoms.
Eric asks
So what’s up? Is this administration determined to be remembered as having the worst record on free speech in US history?
But who will “remember” it, if Obama-written history is not allowed to be challenged?
Comment by Joe on 10/8 @ 7:56 am #
I hope Jeff is backing up the PW records. Maintain the record!
Comment by Pablo on 10/8 @ 7:58 am #
Hey, Barrett. That’s quite a tour de force you’ve got going over there at HuffPo. A real barnburner of a conversation. Tool.
Comment by SBP on 10/8 @ 8:00 am #
How many views/comments does it have on HuffnPuffPo?
Someone reported that it finally broke 1,000 on “T/S” (they really, really need to change that abbreviation, btw, unless they’re planning on “All RuPaul, All the Time” or something of that nature).
Comment by SBP on 10/8 @ 8:01 am #
BTW, anyone who’s interested in free speech issues at the campus level should be following FIRE.
Comment by SBP on 10/8 @ 8:04 am #
3 days, zero comments.
Ouch.
Comment by Pablo on 10/8 @ 8:06 am #
Quite the faceplant, isn’t it, SBP? Hail Barrett, full of fail…
Comment by happyfeet on 10/8 @ 8:06 am #
I think the page views took a ding cause of it wasn’t linked here.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/8 @ 8:08 am #
“I think the page views took a ding cause of it wasn’t linked here,” happyfeet said diplomatically.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/8 @ 8:09 am #
Also it’s entirely possible that those ones are wrong AND evil.
Comment by serr8d on 10/8 @ 8:10 am #
I just glanced at the front page of HuffPo (via g00gle; the byline “Offers syndicated columnists, blogs and news stories with moderated comments.”) and searched for, and found no hits for the word “Barrett”.
There were two instances of “Retard” however. Apropos I think.
Comment by serr8d on 10/8 @ 8:14 am #
But did Charles Johnson link him is the burning question. There would be updings aplenty in the offering for Barrett there, dont’cha know?
Comment by geoffb on 10/8 @ 8:16 am #
On the Left freedom tracks with the phrase “for free” not with “be free”.
But hey maybe we all can be “forgiven (sic) by Obama.” It’s a “for free” country now.
Comment by JHo on 10/8 @ 8:17 am #
Will there be additional episodes, Mr. Brown? In your series of scathing exposes, I mean. (What the Net really needs is Tivo.)
As a fellow small-L libertarian, I find the line between a sound theory’s self-evidence and the need to eventually consider what Ace’s byline says to be a thin one, granted. But I’m guessing the side doesn’t benefit much from betraying said principles by, among other things, setting up allies.
Your thoughts?
Comment by JHo on 10/8 @ 8:22 am #
Please, use my stuff.
Comment by JD on 10/8 @ 8:22 am #
Didn’t someone mention that Barrett got a nice reception at Daily Kos, that bastion of classic liberal thought?
It must sting, just a little, to faceplant like that at HuffPo.
Comment by serr8d on 10/8 @ 8:23 am #
Wow. The suspense!
«shivers and tingles»
Comment by Joe on 10/8 @ 8:25 am #
And we wonder why morale is low in Afghanistan.
Comment by serr8d on 10/8 @ 8:28 am #
Speaking of First Amendment rights, and violations, RS McCain has demanded a retraction from a WV newspaper for ‘white supremacist’ libels.
I hope he sues those fuckers, and Charles Johnson too.
Comment by JD on 10/8 @ 8:28 am #
I am going to pre-emptively denounce and condemn everyone, especially Barrett.
Comment by geoffb on 10/8 @ 8:34 am #
JD, you are as always, too kind.
Comment by serr8d on 10/8 @ 8:36 am #
Oh, Barrett! If you really want to right-bash, be sure to include this graphic. thor’s favorite; he cites it every chance he gets.
Or, if that’s a bit much, this.
A Pub caption from someone (sorry, I’ve forgotten who): “I see a beautiful woman. And a garden ho.”
Comment by serr8d on 10/8 @ 8:39 am #
Barrett, what segment of society has the worst demographics as far as teen pregnancy and abortions?
Rug, lift, sweep.
Comment by JD on 10/8 @ 8:40 am #
I do what I can, geoffb. I do what I can. I am still very very very very very very embarassed by Barrett’s last expose. It cause me great pain. I suspect therapy will be required. I never knew that my language was preventing peace in Ugada.
Comment by serr8d on 10/8 @ 8:40 am #
Door, open, boot.
YES!
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/8 @ 8:41 am #
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Comment by Barrett Brown on 10/8 @ 8:36 am #
Funny you should mention McCain and racism; my last Huffington Post article demonstrates that R.S. McCain is concerned with pregnancy among non-white teens whereas he is dismissive about worries over teen pregnancy in general.”
So you don’t read McCain, either.
Interesting.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/8 @ 8:41 am #
Sorry, should say “comprehend”, not “read”.
Comment by Robert Stacy McCain on 10/8 @ 8:42 am #
Serr8d writes: RS McCain has demanded a retraction from a WV newspaper for ‘white supremacist’ libels.
A retraction has been requested, not demanded. Serr8d further writes: “I hope he sues . . .”
Again, I have cause to remind you of the wise advice of Andrew Jackson’s mother.
Consider that it is 299 miles from my house to the offices of the Charleston (W.Va.) Gazette. I could leave by noon and walk into their lobby before 4:30 p.m.
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/8 @ 8:43 am #
This is only the beginning of the transnational Kabuki dance. Not only will there be fur fights to come owing to Mr.Koh’s desire that international law supercede ours which is an inconstitutional interpretation at best; I’m not an idiot and realize that occasionally the SCOTUS examines international stautes when pondering a ruling-another sketchy practice in my book.
But wait until the Kyoto II treaty is seetled on in Copenhagen later this year. Not only will Obama sign it, but we will then recieve a sanctimonious scolding by the sycophantic legacy media, the academic intelligentsia, the Hollywood glitterati, and the liberal Democrats in congress That it Must! be Ratified!; not only in the name of gaia, but also to underscore Obama’s, “L’etat c’est moi” imperium…
To do anything less would be RAAAAAAAACIST!; but that Copenhagen is a hopelessly racist city filled with knuckle-dragging wingnutz was verified last week by the IOC’s rejection of “That Obama Show”…
But, should it not be ratified, proponents will simply use Mr.Koh’s perspective and adjust the laws accordingly to conform to “international” precedent; and trust that no one can afford to fully litigate such a proposition, or that thay could be effectively smeared as “borthers” or “ghosters” if they did so anyway…
It’s a sad day when the USA comes out against one of the tenets of it’s own constitution. I’m sure that Madison and Mason are cursing Obama and his ilk from the hearafter. Me? I am too, but on this plane of existence for some time to come, I hope…
Comment by Jeff G. on 10/8 @ 8:43 am #
Meh. I’ve been writing forever that the kind of thinking that grounds multicultural thought will inexorably lead to this.
Unfortunately, what I wrote about never gained the same kind of traction as “Heartache!” followed by a goofy pic.
It’s all in the archives, though. Until someone comes along and deletes the attack on multiculturalists it as “hate speech.”
Comment by Robert Stacy McCain on 10/8 @ 8:46 am #
Barrett Brown — he’ll get his in turn.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/8 @ 8:47 am #
And his little dog, too!
Comment by Joe on 10/8 @ 8:50 am #
Ted Kennedy was a feminist.
Comment by Jeff G. on 10/8 @ 8:50 am #
Oh. And I’ve taken to deleting Barrett’s comments. Free discussion is allowed here, naturally; but Barrett seems to want to use this place as a quarry for the jagged, misaligned rocks that make up the foundation of his “important articles.”
Go find your “object lessons” elsewhere, Barrett. Or else make sure that Part III of your scintillating “Barrett was WRONGED!” series uses as its basis, “PW REFUSED TO ALLOW ME TO DEBATE ON HIS PRIVATELY OWNED SITE, AND THAT OFFENDS MY “LIBERTARIAN” SENSIBILITIES!”
Comment by serr8d on 10/8 @ 8:50 am #
A requested retraction, then. Show them the cotton glove, whilst keeping the mailed fist hidden therin.
Works for me.
Comment by Pablo on 10/8 @ 8:52 am #
People are starting to wake up, Jeff. It isn’t too late.
Stacy, congratulations on that birthday gift from Vanderleun. Barrett should take notes if he hopes to wield a poison pen.
Comment by Jeff G. on 10/8 @ 8:53 am #
But, but, Stacy: Barrett has demonstrated that at two different times in two different contexts you held two views that, on their face, seem not to align. Thus, he has demonstrated that your inconsistency speaks to the “racist” part of you, not to the part that doesn’t give a hoot about teen pregnancy.
In other words, by selecting which of those strands of your thought to overdetermine, he has demonstrated that you are a racist, and that he is the clever finder of truths who discovered your invidious secret, right there in your own words.
Meaning, of course, that Barrett Brown is for what is Right and Good!, you are for what is Evil and Base, and All Hail Barriticus!
Q.E.D.
Comment by SDN on 10/8 @ 8:55 am #
This is one reason why O! isn’t all that concerned with Heller; no matter what the Constitution says, the UN can override it.
Comment by geoffb on 10/8 @ 8:56 am #
As with the Civil War this ongoing conflict is highlighting, exposing, the “backdoors” and “bugs” in our national operating system, the Constitution. They will either have to be “patched” up with Constitutional amendments or else the black-hat hackers of the Left will crash the system for good.
Comment by Neo on 10/8 @ 9:16 am #
As far as Stanford, you get the feeling that the ground below the climate fanatics has shifted again ..
The ice melt across during the Antarctic summer (October-January) of 2008-2009 was the lowest ever recorded in the satellite history.
As for the good Professor Schneider, he has had the advantage of the truism that .. a stopped clock is right twice a day.
Comment by No one you know on 10/8 @ 9:17 am #
BB, the guy who said that HuffPo does not moderate comments?
Comment by Joe on 10/8 @ 9:26 am #
Did Barnett go to Florida?
Comment by Squid on 10/8 @ 9:41 am #
I think the transnationalist speak-no-evil crowd is going to be greatly surprised at the number of Americans who really don’t give a shit about their feelings and their so-called rules, and continue to speak their minds opening and forcefully.
The meek may be easily cowed, but the headstrong not so much. And I like to believe that there are enough of us willing to stand up to this sort of nonsense that we can give the meek cover enough to come back to the right side of the issue.
Fortunately, we’ve evolved well beyond the point where a handful of newspapers and networks control the national conversation. Today, every man is his own newspaper, and video flies across the Series Of Tubes faster than any gatekeeper can react. Simon Jester will prevail.
Comment by BJTexs on 10/8 @ 9:44 am #
I feel like I’m reading in a partial vacuum … until I realize that several references to BB relate to deleted material. That having been said, for a “small l Libertarian” Barrett sure is quick to draw the broad racialist brush on conservative commentators.
Just to be sure … has JD issued a blanket denunciation to RS McCain? It doesn’t hurt to be sure, ya know.
Does It?
Comment by J. "Trashman" Peden on 10/8 @ 9:50 am #
“Domestic courts must play a key role in coordinating U.S. domestic constitutional rules with rules of foreign and international law, not simply to promote American aims, but to advance the broader development of a well-functioning international judicial system.”
This would mean to me that either the America of its original Constitutional “rules” must disappear, as its Constitution would be “shredded”, or else that America should take over the World and “impose” its Constitution upon it. If only to aid/follow the natural course of a necessarily forward moving Evolutionary process, which produced our enlightened “rules” in the first place, I’m backing the latter option. Anyone truely believing in Evolution knows that the World is always “ready” for it. Anyone else is simply a run-of-the-mill member of an animal herd.
Comment by Jeff G. on 10/8 @ 9:52 am #
BB called us all homophobes, as well. Evidently, being a small ‘l’ libertarian means you are free to make baseless charges, and your biggest fan is unreconstructed leftist douchenozzle timb, who hasn’t had an original thought since he named his penis “Tim Thumb,” dressed it in a green mini-blazer, and starred it in a series of YouTube vids that also feature Mason Reese and a talking catfish.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/8 @ 9:53 am #
but… but… you defended him and told us to be nice to him. or something. I’m so confused.
Comment by JD on 10/8 @ 9:55 am #
Denounced. Denounced and condemned. The whole entire lot of you.
Comment by Jeff G. on 10/8 @ 9:58 am #
I did, didn’t I, maggie? And yet that never happened — and now he’s writing a series or “articles” in which the people here are portrayed as right wing morons and homophobes. And in the comments to those “articles,” it is yours truly who is attacked personally and publicly, as a failed academic, a house husband, Evil, racist, etc., etc.
Running a blog is fun! Next time, I’ll just go by “Ace” or “Allah,” and then I won’t have to worry about people attacking me or my family.
After all, it’s not like by not attaching my name to something I’ll be taken less seriously.
Comment by JD on 10/8 @ 9:59 am #
JeffG – #45 was vintage. Thank you.
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/8 @ 10:00 am #
I didn’t see any comments at HuffPo Jeff. Are the haters weighing in at True Slant?
Comment by Jeff G. on 10/8 @ 10:01 am #
At T/S.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/8 @ 10:03 am #
well, I vaguely remember it. I just thought it was silly that he’s brought it up the last week or so he’s popped up here. lame-o appeal to authority. “I AM a libertarian, Jeff G said so, so there” whatevs.
he’s always annoyed me what with his leaving rambling novellas instead of getting to the point and addressing the topic. or my fave the “don’t put words in my mouth!” dude, I’m just trying to make sense of your crap and how it relates to the conversation.
I think I’m just cranky today.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/8 @ 10:06 am #
Well, I broke down, went over to HuffBlow and read BB’s ramblings.
Pitiful, just pitiful.
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/8 @ 10:07 am #
Well I didn’t go there so that the page wouldn’t get the benefit of my “hit”, but if they’re trashing the joint, well then maybe we should all go weigh in…
Comment by Squid on 10/8 @ 10:07 am #
I refuse to be called racist by a guy who posts at a site whose very name is a base insult to Asians. I can only assume that “Authentic Yellow Devils” was already taken.
Comment by JD on 10/8 @ 10:09 am #
Good catch, Squid. I think you found a chink in his armor.
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/8 @ 10:24 am #
I saw what you did there JD…RACIST!
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 10/8 @ 10:26 am #
Barrett’s a dick. No doubt about it. Racists? Homophobes? His bigoted self has definitely gotten the best of him.
And JD…”chink”? Denounced, condemned and shunned for approximately 15 seconds.
Comment by louchette, outlaw shufu on 10/8 @ 10:40 am #
that ARGH!!! face i as talking about yesterday? i’m making it right now.
*waves to jeff g.*
i guess it’s time to get out my marking pens and start making some ‘i hate you, and your family, and your pets, and your taste in clothes, and your retarded religion’ t-shirts. speaking of which, anyone seen my favorite culture jammer ger/BH lately? hope is he doin’ okay in these dark days.
Comment by BJTexs on 10/8 @ 10:49 am #
To channel Jeff G.: #45 made me burst. Yup, I made a burst. also, with regards to JD, it’s very, very confusing when the designated denouncer is being denounced.
Must eat lunch!
Comment by JD on 10/8 @ 10:49 am #
What is it with the leftists like Barrett that every issue can boil down to racist misogynsitic zenophobic jingoistic war-mongering imperialist homophobic bigots!
Comment by Squid on 10/8 @ 10:51 am #
Nuance, JD. It’s all about the nuance.
Comment by BJTexs on 10/8 @ 10:59 am #
JD: You forgot racist fundamentalist heartless chickenhawkers.
Oh, and Rotarians.
Comment by J. "Trashman" Peden on 10/8 @ 11:08 am #
Good catch, Squid. I think you found a chink in his armor.
Huff-Po have many chinks in chaps, Grasshopper – so many, too little time.
Comment by The Sanity Inspector on 10/8 @ 11:09 am #
Yet more proof that we unwittingly elected a President Of The World.
Comment by ghost707 on 10/8 @ 11:15 am #
As for me, I could care less what a person’s color or sexual orientation is, my concern is mental midgets turning this country into Zimbabwe in the name of “equality” or some such smokescreen bullshit.
Barret Brown is already receiving his comeuppance: no one is reading his web tantrum.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 10/8 @ 11:16 am #
He hates the religious and those that give them quarter, JD. It’s that simple. So in that way he is very much like a leftard. He’s “reasoning” with his heart instead of his brain, which would be a fucking shocker to his senses if he realized that.
Comment by JHo on 10/8 @ 11:49 am #
It’s still kind early, but I’ll venture a joint denouncement. There.
Don’t hate us because we’re the ugly forty-eights, leftwingistan. Hate us because we just sound so inconvenient and unprogressive whenever we can’t help but doubt really big federal shit you inexplicably do not. Any more.
Comment by JHo on 10/8 @ 11:50 am #
I guess that applies to Mr. Brown too, doesn’t it? So, what O. Infidel said.
Comment by LTC John on 10/8 @ 11:56 am #
“…in which the people here are portrayed as right wing morons and homophobes.”
I thought we were “right wing homos and moronophobes”. I cannot keep all the poo-flinging straight sometimes. I’ll just stick with being a stupid killbot Halliburton-dupe.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 10/8 @ 12:00 pm #
Spaeking of free speech, a win at MSU as speech code found unconstitutional.
http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/
article/20091008/NEWS01/910080329?
GID=AvvUQSzW37KOhIKZCFtsMTYMAr8k
JPRK1ukJgs4w1xg%3D
You gotta put the link together.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/8 @ 12:06 pm #
Wait. We’re all homophobes now?
Gee.
I guess I should stop starring at all y’alls asses then.
What?
You guys look really good in jeans.
All I’m saying.
Comment by Victor. on 10/8 @ 12:08 pm #
Forget this BB person. I got the day off and was going to watch some hot Colorado Rocky action, wondering if Jeff would offer up a take on some things I might watch for in the game, assuming he is even interested.
Comment by Squid on 10/8 @ 12:18 pm #
I didn’t used to wear tight jeans, but lately I’ve started to.
Mind you, the jeans haven’t changed…
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/8 @ 12:25 pm #
Stop me if you’ve heard this one. A “libertarian” walks into the Huffington Post…
Whatsamatter barrett? Reason Magazine laugh at your drivel?
It’s ok. You can tell people it’s because they were all stoned.
Unlike anything else you’ve ever written, that little gem probably has the benefit of being true.
Huffington Post.
Where real libertarian thinking gets done.
Comment by mcgruder on 10/8 @ 12:25 pm #
Recap:
This Barrett Brown I know nothing of, but he seems to be the sort of horse’s ass that from time-to-time rides out against PW and all things goldstein and makes a horse’s ass when he realizes that no one is following his baseless and unsustainable charges. That Frisch bacillus was only the most extreme example of it. The takeaway is that they all fail, because to typecast PW is a fool’s errand. Am I wrong?
Charles Johnson: I was formerly friendly with him and gave his LGF some major shots in the arm when I was on the Dan Rather-gate story. I went on TV and talked him up; had my paper profile him. I quoted him a few times and we stayed loosely in touch. He seems to really have gone crazy. He has a hard-on for Christians in the public sphere that is bordering on rank bigotry. Which is weird on two levels. the first is that the overwhelming majority of Christians I know more or less accept evolution as broadly understood, and as sinners, understand human weakness and frailty better than most. In short, they are the most tolerant people I know.
They ain’t saints and plenty of them have some dumb opinions, but let me say this about that. I know more allegedly open-minded liberals in the MSM than most and I have to say that a newsroom is about 10x more close-minded and anti-logical thought process than the hardest line church I’ve been too.
I have no idea what CJ is on about these days but he is really….touched.
RS McCain: I have to say the dude has made some unseemly associations and/or hung around some websites I am not remotely cool about. This matters nothing, but I have to say that at the absolute best, he appears to have very careless about where and why he posted. His politics are his own, but I think we are better than some of the places he has posted. Probably a stout fellow, just doesnt think it through. At Least, I hope.
Comment by Abe Froman on 10/8 @ 12:38 pm #
One of the things I hate most about blogs is how an absolute nobody like Barrett Brown can become an ongoing topic of conversation.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/8 @ 12:39 pm #
oh please, Abe, do nobodies have books published? I don’t think so.
/sarc
Comment by Pablo on 10/8 @ 12:43 pm #
I’d say it’s closer to the truth that he thinks he ought to be the undisputed king of the PW commentariat, but instead of bowing before his superior wisdom, PW denizns, having found him a jackass of the highest order, have made a habit of blacking his eye. Thus, the 3000 Word Snit.
Comment by Barrett Brown's empty ballsack on 10/8 @ 12:48 pm #
I guess mocking an individual can be construed as a topic of conversation, but the comments are priceless when it comes to having a good laugh.
Comment by Abe Froman on 10/8 @ 12:59 pm #
I enjoy mocking him as well, senor ballsack. The part I hate is that to a nobody the mere acknowledgment of their existence is a form of flattery.
Comment by Alec Leamas on 10/8 @ 1:09 pm #
That’s funny, I thought he always got it in the ‘end.’
IYKWIATAAIKTYD
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/8 @ 1:21 pm #
NTTAWWT
Comment by SPC Jack Klompus on 10/8 @ 1:25 pm #
73. I would watch for a drubbing by my Phils’ second ace Hamels on par with the shellacking doled out by our numero uno, Cliff Lee in game one. Sweep.
Comment by Alec Leamas on 10/8 @ 1:27 pm #
maggie, as pointed out definitively by Barnett Brown at the Huffy Puffy and here, this is a homophobic blog – which makes his solicitation of nubile young women and your daughters in that article seem an awful lot like an anxious display of his non-homo-ness. Better get that on the record before aligning himself with the homofags, it seems – Hmmm . . .
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/8 @ 1:29 pm #
“rides out against PW and all things goldstein and makes a horse’s ass when he realizes that no one is following his baseless and unsustainable charges.”
Sounds like the Prince of Orange with the Dutch cavalry at Waterloo.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/8 @ 1:33 pm #
huh? sorry, I’m can’t read his stuff, my eyes glaze over after a couple sentences.
and I only have furkids.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/8 @ 1:41 pm #
I hate not liking people what we used to like or kind of like. I meant what I said and I said what I meant and all that.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/8 @ 1:43 pm #
We never just have the odd contretemps it seems is what I mean.
Comment by McGehee on 10/8 @ 1:50 pm #
Damn caviar eaters. Almost as bad as humanitarians and veteranarians.
Comment by LTC John on 10/8 @ 1:51 pm #
I dunno, hf. You and I managed to be quite civil in our difference of opinion over the “Safe Schools Tsar”.
Comment by LTC John on 10/8 @ 1:52 pm #
And I think you are good people.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/8 @ 2:15 pm #
Me too I think you are excellent people. You and Mikey both.
Comment by Jim Ryan on 10/8 @ 2:17 pm #
I enjoy mocking him as well, senor ballsack.
Good, another entry for my list of sentences which have never existed before.
Comment by Joe on 10/8 @ 3:01 pm #
RS McCain: I have to say the dude has made some unseemly associations and/or hung around some websites I am not remotely cool about. This matters nothing, but I have to say that at the absolute best, he appears to have very careless about where and why he posted. His politics are his own, but I think we are better than some of the places he has posted. Probably a stout fellow, just doesnt think it through. At Least, I hope.
I do not believe RSM is a racist and it is way over the top for Charles Johnson and his little jerkoffs to keep attacking Stacy. One of them called me a racist for defending him. And they only started going after RSM when RSM defended Pam Geller. It is a bullshit attack.
I am not into Pam Geller’s site, but I also do not think she is a racist (they even call her a Nazi some times). I think Robert Spencer is over the top in his attacks of Islam, but the man has reasearched Islamo-extremism and a lot of it is absolutely true.
Fred Phellps does represents Christianity, but that fucknut only holds up signs at events he should stay away from and begs for a good asswhoopin. His followers, mostly relatives he might be having sex with (I don’t know that for sure–so I do not want to cross that LGF line), number in the dozens.
The threat to civilized society, right now, is not Texas Creationists or anti vacciners, but stems mostly from Islamic extremists, who even though they are a small minority of Muslims, number in the millions. And they support violence.
And Patterico is still a dick.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/8 @ 3:12 pm #
It’s not nice to say people are white supremacists when they’re not.
Comment by Joe on 10/8 @ 3:13 pm #
Fred Phellps does not represent Christainity other that claiming to be a Christian.
Comment by Joe on 10/8 @ 3:14 pm #
LGF and his minions don’t throw down the race card, they lob white supremacist bags of concrete from highway overpasses at incoming traffic.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/8 @ 3:19 pm #
Also, Mr. Patterico is not a dick to where you just say oh hey you know who’s a dick? Mr. Patterico. No. That is invalid. It’s not at all my experience of him even though that contretemps he had with Mr. Jeff ended badly and I didn’t think it needed to end how it did, and there were qualities about that what might be understandably described as sort of dickish because people were alleged to be threateny what weren’t even remotely threateny. But anyway, Mr. Joe, you have to say Mr. Patterico is a dick and then say why so people can decide for themselves. That is a fair way of going about things. Otherwise it’s just instigatey and wrong.
Charles Johnson is a dick though.
Comment by Rusty on 10/8 @ 3:23 pm #
#91
I dunno. I’m kinda afraid to piss him off.
OT but I think you’ll find it interesting. Over at AOS there is a thread. It seems our president didn’t know that COIN required more troops. he thought it meant to send in the diplomats and community organizers.We are in deep kimchee.
To all our military members,(Danger et al), stationed overseas- watch yer ass. This guy is gonna get you hurt. Prayers out.
Comment by JD on 10/8 @ 3:34 pm #
I think we have a consensus that Charles Johnson is a cock.
Comment by Rusty on 10/8 @ 3:39 pm #
Oh yeah. And Barret is a whining, lying pussy. There. It had to be said.
Comment by Squid on 10/8 @ 3:42 pm #
Ah, but if Barrette is speaking Troof, does this mean we are teh Powah? ‘Cuz I could get used to that.
Comment by Barack H. Obama on 10/8 @ 3:53 pm #
Community Organized Independent Negotiations, COIN. Right? Right? They go in with their HALO’s on. Dave, HALO? HUh.
Comment by newrouter on 10/8 @ 3:55 pm #
nay cj pussy
Comment by newrouter on 10/8 @ 3:56 pm #
besides consensus is for global warming goons
Comment by JD on 10/8 @ 4:05 pm #
Squid is on a roll today.
Comment by Jeff G. on 10/8 @ 4:22 pm #
So much for that sweep, SPC JK.
Comment by Kresh on 10/8 @ 4:33 pm #
Can I be an American Supremacist? I mean, America is all super-white and minority-hatey and stuff, so I hear, but I still like the idea of an ascendant beacon of liberty and stuff.
I mean, it’s not like we’re unable to get the Taliban out of Afghanistan or anything. So, we can be trusted on the world stage still, right? Oh, wait…
Comment by Kresh on 10/8 @ 4:34 pm #
Intended link here…
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/08/world/asia/08prexy.html?_r=1
Comment by happyfeet on 10/8 @ 4:34 pm #
I don’t understand about the sweep.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/8 @ 4:36 pm #
oh. Ascendant beacon no more are we. Cause of the Hope and Change. History Channel is already commissioning the documentaries I think.
Comment by newrouter on 10/8 @ 4:50 pm #
for the happyfeet
“New life for Rockies after bats awaken”
Comment by Kresh on 10/8 @ 4:52 pm #
Well. Oh poop. Unicorns won’t get anywheres near me, I’m afraid. Not virginal enough, not maideny enough, too much facial hair, and the wrong set of tackle to ever qualify. I am soo screwed.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 10/8 @ 5:01 pm #
The thing that ticks me off about my comment #71, the speech code being struck down at MSU, is (a) the university is a state entity; (b) it has attorneys; (c) it has a law school – and it went ahead with a prior restraint on speech. And the university had to know full well that what it was doing was unConstitutional and it still tried to defend this dog’s breakfast of a case. It wasted money in a state that was broke to defend what was clearly wrong, all a sacrifice for political correctness.
I am not attacking the attorneys that went forth and did their jobs, to defend, but I am attacking the idiots that set this thing up to begin with! They bought off the professional protestors and the grievance-searchers, and now the state has to pay for this stupidity – a state that does not have the cash to pay the judgment, nor to pay for an appeal.
Is there any funds, I wonder, to have an addition to orientaion that says ‘Some people may call you very insulting names, including racial epithets, and you should either ignore those or tell them to sod off.’?
Comment by sdferr on 10/8 @ 5:17 pm #
Mr. Street looked to be somewhat tense in the bottom of the ninth. Not knowing him, I wonder, is he like that a lot, up tight looking and jittery I mean? Anyhow that may be, good on the Rocks for bringing home a split.
Comment by newrouter on 10/8 @ 5:30 pm #
we’re bombing the moon. doesn’t O! know this will create moore moonbats
Comment by Abe Froman on 10/8 @ 5:46 pm #
we’re bombing the moon. doesn’t O! know this will create moore moonbats
Oh to be a fly on the wall of your cerebral cortex. There are flecks of genius in your gibberish.
Comment by newrouter on 10/8 @ 5:55 pm #
“Oh to be a fly on the wall of your cerebral cortex”
its a no fly zone
Comment by B Moe on 10/8 @ 5:56 pm #
What kind of message is this sending to the rest of the universe?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/8 @ 5:57 pm #
Maybe we should….
“NUKE THE MOON!!!”
Comment by serr8d on 10/8 @ 6:04 pm #
Dunno if Patterico is as far-gone dickish all the time as he was when he trumped up that imaginary charge (hey, I’m losing an argument big time here; aren’t you ‘threatening’ somebody?), but given that his day-job profession requires much more restraint and requires better evidence than he concocted that night, he should’ve known better. Maybe he needs a judge looking over his shoulder all the time to give that missing element of restraint; because there wasn’t much excuse for his overreaction. And he hasn’t come over here and apologized as far as I know, so that one cloud of ‘dickishnish’ is still hovering over his head and permeates his site. AFAIC.
Cloudy enough to keep me from visiting there, at least until he admits and corrects his mistake.
If he doesn’t? Well, there’s other sites out there I think.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/8 @ 6:30 pm #
yes. Talking about your feelings is the first step.
Comment by Joe on 10/8 @ 6:32 pm #
I know happy and JD are friends with Patterico, but he is still a dick. Just because he is on the right side of some issues doesn’t mean he can’t be a dick.
He also (ironically) banned me on the thread where he was bitching and moaning that either O’Reilly banned him or Radley Balko said he was stalking him (they were both pretty close in time). I can’t remember which. He also banned me once before because I said he was a cocksucker for treating Darleen poorly.
Comment by serr8d on 10/8 @ 6:48 pm #
Heh. With each passing day, Patterico’s ‘Good Man’ soliloquy seems more and more untenable. I do enjoy reminding him of that, in the occasional tweet or drive-by posting.
Comment by guinsPen on 10/8 @ 6:59 pm #
Talking about your feelings is the first step.
Well, ok.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/8 @ 6:59 pm #
here’s another less noted but equally untenable one from back in the dawn of Hope and Change… it was a different time then. It took some doing but the January to mid-spring atmosphere of cloying deference to the little dirty socialist president man isn’t coming back ever where it won’t be painfully self-conscious or satire.
[fixed it for you, hf ... ]
Comment by happyfeet on 10/8 @ 6:59 pm #
crap but that’s orangey
Comment by Joe on 10/8 @ 7:04 pm #
Comment by serr8d on 10/8 @ 6:48 pm #
Heh. With each passing day, Patterico’s ‘Good Man’ soliloquy seems more and more untenable. I do enjoy reminding him of that, in the occasional tweet or drive-by posting.
I am sure he loves you for it! Just don’t get a DUI in LA.
Comment by guinsPen on 10/8 @ 7:28 pm #
Off the album, Never Mind the Bollocks, Here’s Barriticus.
Comment by sdferr on 10/8 @ 7:49 pm #
As I recall the Mr Frey matter back when, there was a general agreement, orchestrated in part by blowhard (who, louchette, hasn’t been around much it seems, though he may have posted a month or so ago as “not bh” if I remember right), which was that everyone would voluntarily stand back and cut out the personal attacks and recriminations. Let’s keep it that way, how’s ’bout?
Comment by serr8d on 10/8 @ 7:56 pm #
When I visit my home state of Arizona, I do my best to stay on the American side of the Colorado River. )
Comment by RTO Trainer on 10/8 @ 10:46 pm #
@133.
Non-sequitur Girl strikes again!
Comment by Wanda Tinasky (not bh) on 10/8 @ 10:59 pm #
sdferr remembers correctly, as normal. Bit of a recap, the reason for the peace was to not give Jeff headaches he didn’t need. That still makes sense to me. So, Joe, brother in home-brewing, let’s give it a break.
louchette, sorry about being off-line for a bit. Currently, I’m using my culture jamming skills to write rather obscene letters to the editor.
Thanks for the heads up, Geoff.
By the way, Jeff will rise again. Just a feeling I have.
Comment by Wanda Tinasky (not bh) on 10/8 @ 11:14 pm #
On the plus side, I haven’t the slightest idea who this “Barrett” is.
As the universe intended.
Comment by Rusty on 10/9 @ 4:44 am #
I haven’t the slightest idea who this “Barrett” is.
And you life is much fuller thereby.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/9 @ 5:04 am #
This just in:
Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize
OSLO — President Obama on Friday won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize for “his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples,” the Norwegian Nobel Committee said.
AP via Lucianne.
Well, that thing will be worthless from now on, won’t it?
Comment by JHo on 10/9 @ 5:55 am #
And the silly little marmoset can’t format a comment for all it’s worth.
Comment by Jeff G. on 10/9 @ 9:03 am #
Well, if the Nobel committee thinks Obama is a good man, maybe I should reconsider!
Comment by Rusty on 10/9 @ 4:01 pm #
#138
It was worthless after Arafat won it. Why not just cut him a check and give him a twelve pack of diet coke. It amounts to the same thing.
Comment by Swen Swenson on 10/9 @ 7:48 pm #
Yeah, but not those weird ass sissy jeans with embroidery on the hip pockets. Inviting people to look at your butt is just too gay..
Comment by Swen Swenson on 10/9 @ 8:01 pm #
Indeed. If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do humanitarians eat, hmmm?
Comment by Swen Swenson on 10/9 @ 8:05 pm #
That’s an insult to dicks everywhere. Dickist!