… or, at least, Verbal Kint
Ayers stated firmly, “I wrote it.”Anne ended the conversation by saying “why would I believe you? You’re a liar.”
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October 7, 2009
Bill Ayers is Keyser Söze … [Darleen Click]
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Comment by BJTexs on 10/7 @ 4:42 am #
Heh. Glen Beck as the cop?
Comment by Pablo on 10/7 @ 4:54 am #
Assuming that Ayers is quoted correctly and that he’s not throwing O! under the bus, this is a cute bit of squid ink to throw up.
“Silly wingers don’t know what to think…”
Comment by Abe Froman on 10/7 @ 5:05 am #
I have a little problem advancing a story based on something Ayers said to a dopey nothing blogger woman in an airport. Regardless of the truth about the book, he was mocking her by telling her that. Why anyone else would be fool enough to willingly make themselves part of his joke is beyond me.
Comment by BJTexs on 10/7 @ 5:18 am #
Well, Abe, you seem a bit grumpy this morning. I think Darleen’s reference to Keyser Soze locates the tongue firmly planted in cheek. Let’s have some fun with this:
If Ayers is Soze and Beck is the police captain, who are the other characters in the movie?
Coffee’s on, Abe. I’ll pour you a cup. :-)
Comment by BJTexs on 10/7 @ 5:20 am #
David Axelrod as Kobayashi?
Comment by Joe on 10/7 @ 5:22 am #
I posted this last night from Ace’s link. I have my doubts too. But perhaps Ayers is disappointed in Da One, so who knows. I say run with it.
Comment by Joe on 10/7 @ 5:25 am #
So is Benicio Del Toro’s character Robert Gibbs?
Comment by Abe Froman on 10/7 @ 5:37 am #
Well, Abe, you seem a bit grumpy this morning. I think Darleen’s reference to Keyser Soze locates the tongue firmly planted in cheek. Let’s have some fun with this:
Yeah. I was commenting on this story in general, not Darleen’s amused take on it. My sense of humor doesn’t kick in till around 8 am.
Comment by Victor. on 10/7 @ 5:39 am #
The obvious follow up would have been to ask Ayers point blank- “Are you calling the President a liar?”
As it stands the follow up needs to be with Ayers, he definitely wants to say something on the record. Whether it’s a comment about the absurdity of the charge or a desire to take credit for his work, the guy obviously has an opinion he wants to express on the issue.
Comment by LTC John on 10/7 @ 5:53 am #
Hmmm.. we would need to fit Rahm in the movie somewhere.
Comment by serr8d on 10/7 @ 5:56 am #
“And like that, he’s gone.”
And he will be, this whole exercise will be a waste, unless someone significant in the MSM decides to approach Ayers on his Verbal statement.
(Did Ayers, perchance, have a “KOBAYASHI” coffee mug in hand? )
Comment by beedubya on 10/7 @ 5:57 am #
I don’t know. It’s possible that this happened. Ayers has a huge ego…and he could have been taunting her, and by extension, us thinking he could outsmart everyone at every turn. Think of the Joker in the Dark Knight.
Remember, this is the guy who imfamously said “Guilty as sin and free as a bird. “America, what a country”.
Comment by serr8d on 10/7 @ 6:01 am #
Who is
John GaltKeyser Soze?Comment by MarkJ on 10/7 @ 6:02 am #
Who is Barack Obama? He is supposed to be Indonesian. Some say his father was Kenyan. Nobody believed he was real. Nobody ever saw him or knew anybody that ever worked directly for him, but to hear Ayers tell it, anybody could have worked for Obama. You never knew. That was his power. The greatest trick The Won ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist. And like that, poof. He’s gone.
Comment by Salt Lick on 10/7 @ 6:25 am #
If he did write it, do you really think a guy with his ego wouldn’t keep a copy somewhere, whether hard-copy or disk? (Cue “Mission Impossible” theme.)
Comment by LTC John on 10/7 @ 6:32 am #
Right on time, a humorous thread suffers its first troll attempt to derail. Sorry, meya/RD, this one is too much fun.
I don’t think I could come up with a very good, spontaneous bad guy name – the bottom of my coffee cup says “Solo”. If I tried that, someone would think I was making a Star Wars joke…
Comment by serr8d on 10/7 @ 6:39 am #
Here ya go. Throw it in a fireplace or something.
Comment by Barrett Brown's empty ballsack on 10/7 @ 6:42 am #
meya, fuck off!
Comment by alppuccino on 10/7 @ 6:43 am #
Barney Frank would of course play the part of the nightclub owner who lives above the nightclub and his boyfriend is the headliner in the big all female-impersonator review at that same nightclub.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/7 @ 6:44 am #
Or he could play the headliner.
Comment by SBP on 10/7 @ 7:09 am #
#15: Hush, child.
Comment by sdferr on 10/7 @ 7:09 am #
Jack Cashill wonders aloud at the refusal of major media to even ask the question of Christopher Anderson when they spoke to him about his book and further, marvels at a trap they may be laying for themselves.
Comment by BJTexs on 10/7 @ 7:12 am #
Rod Blagojevich as Fenster? Hilary Clinton as Keaton? Robert Gibbs as “Verbal” Kint?
Comment by Roland THTG on 10/7 @ 7:18 am #
Apparently, Ayers is going to be in Madison, sometime soon, at some class of book fair. Maybe I’ll steal a copy of Dreams and see if he will autograph it.
Comment by sdferr on 10/7 @ 7:24 am #
That’s a great idea actually Roland. Seriously. Great theater. Make sure you have someone videoing the encounter.
Comment by serr8d on 10/7 @ 7:27 am #
Roland THTG, it’d be cool if you could substitute the book jacket.
Comment by SBP on 10/7 @ 7:32 am #
You could buy one used from Amazon or Powells. Barky wouldn’t get any money from that, either.
Comment by serr8d on 10/7 @ 7:36 am #
Seriously, if you have a decent color printer, I could send you a 8.5 x 11 hi-res copy of that image; print a few and pass ‘em out at the signing. Ask him to sign it. He might get a bit pissed, though. Have a compatriot with a video camera.
Comment by serr8d on 10/7 @ 7:42 am #
OUTLAW!
Comment by Spartacus on 10/7 @ 7:44 am #
I’m Keyser Soze.
Comment by JD on 10/7 @ 7:49 am #
I have nothing to add. I think this is some kind of rabbit-hole that they will use to simply discredit more people along the lines of birthers.
Comment by Keyser Soze on 10/7 @ 7:56 am #
I AM BARRETICUS!
Comment by The Sanity Inspector on 10/7 @ 7:56 am #
It does seem like Ayers was funnin’.
Comment by sdferr on 10/7 @ 7:57 am #
Sure TSI, but to a very specific purpose, don’t you think?
Comment by nohype on 10/7 @ 8:02 am #
He may have being telling the truth, but he was also taunting her with the “And if you can prove it we can split the royalties.” He knows there is no way she or anyone else can prove it, and of course the royalties have already gone to Obama. It was a “I-did-it-but-you-can’t-do-anything-about-it” taunt.
Comment by takeshi kovacs on 10/7 @ 8:02 am #
No, Verbal was much smarter than Gibbs, Fenster was much clearer as well
Comment by McGehee on 10/7 @ 8:10 am #
Yup. But even without that little flourish I’d still be skeptical. Every word out of Bill Ayers’ mouth is a lie, including “and” and “the.”
<pays small royalty fee to Mary McCarthy>
Comment by ThomasD on 10/7 @ 8:11 am #
My vote is for Michelle as Keyser Soze.
She’s the only one who’s even talked about a no prisoners approach to anything.
Comment by geoffb on 10/7 @ 8:14 am #
“It was a “I-did-it-but-you-can’t-do-anything-about-it” taunt.” Which translates to “Guilty as sin and free as a bird. “ quite well. Must be a trademark of his soul.
Comment by cranky-d on 10/7 @ 8:24 am #
You’re all just a bunch of rabid wingnutz. Ayers didn’t write Obama’s book. Obama wrote Ayers’ books. It explains everything!
Comment by sdferr on 10/7 @ 8:33 am #
Here’s a repost of a link to Steve Diamond’s view of the Ayers-Obama story in Anderson’s account, particularly on why Anderson is unwilling to write that Ayers “wrote” the book but is willing to write that Ayers:
Diamond further says
Comment by geoffb on 10/7 @ 8:38 am #
One thing about this is that the roles are reversed. The Barack of the campaign is the illusion the made up character who now is changing into the real one. It is as if at the end we get to see Keyser Soze morph into Verbal Kint as he walks away.
Comment by MarkJ on 10/7 @ 8:38 am #
Another observation about Ayers:
The guy has lied so much throughout his life that nobody believes him…even when says he’s lying.
Comment by Shakes on 10/7 @ 8:54 am #
I think he was both joking and telling the truth. He certainly threw it out there without her asking. If anything at least he doesn’t mind the story and the attention.
Comment by PhilB on 10/7 @ 8:57 am #
Abe Froman said “I have a little problem advancing a story based on something Ayers said to a dopey nothing blogger woman in an airport.”
But this is based upon a LOT more than this blogger’s “interview.”
1. Chris Andersen’s new #1 bestseller claims Ayers wrote the book, based on interviews with 2 people who knew them both.
2. The similarities between Ayer’s “Fugitive Days” and “Dreams” are face-slapping obvious.
3. The extraordinary extent to which Obama has gone to obscure his very close ties with “a guy in the neighborhood” Ayers (just one link that is not widely known: Obama was CEO of the Chicago Anneberg Challenge while Ayers was running things at CAC. Ayer’s projects recieved millions in funding from CAC, which shared an office with Ayers Small Schools Workshop. The 1998 tax forms show Obama’s business address as the 3rd floor of a small building at 115 South Sangamon, the same floor where Ayers and the Maoist Klonsky, now we are into true nuts, also listed their address). —See Gateway Pundit, October 19, 2008.
4. Ayers made a regular practice of helping new writers of hard-left persuasion at sessions at his kitchen table.
Comment by PhilB on 10/7 @ 9:12 am #
One day, a left-leaning reporter will become the next Bob Woodward by following this all the way to conclusion. But any “conservative” source will always be suspect. The fact that much is being made of Palin’s ghostwriter may give cover to actually criticize Obama from the left, a heretofore unacceptable endeavor.
Comment by serr8d on 10/7 @ 9:17 am #
Fucking assholes at Sadly, Snotnosed linked my post. I’m knee deep in moonbats.
Comment by sdferr on 10/7 @ 9:23 am #
Take heart serr8d, you aren’t alone as the whole country is, as you say, kneedeep in moonbats. It’s even led by one.
Comment by Abe Froman on 10/7 @ 9:40 am #
But this is based upon a LOT more than this blogger’s “interview.”
Obviously. The story is already out there. Otherwise Ayers wouldn’t have offered up a mock confession to a dimwit blogger in an airport. It doesn’t advance the story at all though, and anyone who runs with this as though it does just looks like a lathered up retard.
Comment by LTC John on 10/7 @ 9:45 am #
Abe,
But you have to admit, the jokes we have managed to have here because of the story are worthwhile! :)
Comment by JD on 10/7 @ 9:47 am #
serr8d – I am looking forward to my sushi. I may actually go to the game Sunday, not sure yet.
Comment by Salt Lick on 10/7 @ 9:55 am #
One day, a left-leaning reporter will become the next Bob Woodward by following this all the way to conclusion.
A blue Obama backup CD, stained with Bill Ayers’ digital semen.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/7 @ 10:01 am #
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.
Of course Ayers didn’t write it.
He was picking coffee beans in Guatemala.
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/7 @ 10:02 am #
geoffb,
Your observation at#41 is a correct analogy. He did it, and is basically saying he gets a pass on it because there is no admissable evidence; that is to say many on the left are, and have, working hard to discredit Cashill, Andersen, and anyone else who can possibly provide corroborating evidemce, cirumstantial or otherwise, to the “caper” that is Ayers ghostwriting Dreams!…
Comment by BJTexs on 10/7 @ 10:06 am #
Bill Ayers is actually a serial “Dream” (under)writer.
In addition to “Dreams of My Father” he also wrote the following:
“Dream Weaver” He traded the rights with Gary Wright for an OZ of Panama Red and a really good wire cutter.
“I Have a Dream” Ayers wrote this in high school and sent it to MLK who stiffed him on the royalties.
“Dream Lover” Ayers and Bobby Darin used to hang out as kids, pretending to be beatniks with old trash cans. The song was a collaborative effort, Darren wrote about some girl named Priscilla while Ayers contributions reflected his deep love for Mao … and beef jerky.
“I Dreamed a Dream” This was based on an old poem that Ayers sent to Herbert Krezmer to express his derision at the “stale bohemian revolutionary spirit” found in the original French Musical. Krezmer, anxious for a highlight libretto in the first act, changed Ayers words around just after sending him a reply requesting that he “piss off and die, you dried up old terrorist stooge!”
I dreamed a dream of flickering flames …where pigs get toasty roasted
Most acknowledge that Ayers is the greatest (under) write of Dream related materials in history as well as the worst businessman of his generation.
Comment by Bob Reed on 10/7 @ 10:10 am #
And I haven’t had the pleasure of seeing this film, although I will make a point of it now, but I will say that whatever his role, Ayers is not the mastermind of the plot to put Obama the manchurian candidate in office and drag the country left; he’s just not big enough…
I think that whoever is at the other end of Obama’s blackberry is directing Ayers too…
Comment by sdferr on 10/7 @ 10:16 am #
This Andrew Ferguson review of Obama’s books, The Literary Obama from back in Feb. 2007, is worth a re-read. Ferguson, so far as I know, hasn’t adopted Cashill’s contentions as to Ayers part in writing Obama’s books but however that may be (were I to surmise, my guess would be that AF looks askance at them), Ferguson’s thoughts here are certainly untainted by any knowledge of Cashill’s views.
The reciprocal relationship, that is, how far Cashill leans on Ferguson is unknown to me.
Comment by Joe on 10/7 @ 10:18 am #
Both Jonah and Allah think Ayers was joking. Well debate over then.
Of course Ayers was joking, but if he did write it (and I am pretty sure he had a hand in it at a minimum) it shows a guilty conscience (if Bill Ayers has a conscience) and that he is tracking this issue on blogs…well like this one. Maybe it just shows even small “c” communists like royalties too.
Comment by Silver Whistle on 10/7 @ 10:22 am #
I think you will find that Bill Ayers could tatoo “I wrote Dreams From My Father” on his ass and run buck nekkid through the streets of Chicago, and there would still be silence from the NYT, and SEK would go to bat yet again for Dear Leader.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 10/7 @ 10:31 am #
Many of the despicable bastards that made Obama what he is and are responsible, in large part, for where he is (Ayers, Dohrn, Rev. Wright, etc) aren’t allowed in the White House. Hell, they can’t even get an audience with their plastic king.
I think it grates on them.
And Ayers?
Poor bitter, angry, hate-filled little hippie.
All back of the bus and shit.
Or under it.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 10/7 @ 11:52 am #
Of course he’s a liar.
Comment by Silver Whistle on 10/7 @ 11:55 am #
All back of the bus and shit.
Dude be sat next to the Dalai Lama.
Comment by Joe on 10/7 @ 11:59 am #
Althouse on hiding in plain sight.
Comment by psycho... on 10/7 @ 1:47 pm #
Replace Ayers in that idea with anybody, add the observable fact that that soul-mark is admired and/or enabled by almost everybody else, and you can understand almost everything that ever happens.
I don’t recommend it, necessarily.
It leaves not much to say, and nothing good.
Comment by B Moe on 10/7 @ 1:59 pm #
Thanks psycho, learning of the existence of crush video porn hadn’t depressed me quite enough yet this week. ;p
Comment by SarahW on 10/7 @ 2:04 pm #
Nohype “It was a “I-did-it-but-you-can’t-do-anything-about-it” taunt.”
I wrote this over at Ace’s, I agree with you:
it’s an interesting encounter, whatever you make of it.
He has double-dog dared anyone to prove he helped O. Of course he was messing with the blogger, whether he was in earnest or not. That’s a given. And he *is* a liar.
If he wants it “proved” he can prove it himself. Maybe someday he will.
But always short of that, he would enjoy, like a serial killer with a taunting note to police, the tease: the “catch me if you can, cause you can’t” game.
For myself, I was very skeptical but am now long past deciding the likely case is he was a co-author of Dreams. I don’t mean to convince anyone with my opinion, the facts and circumstances and comparisons are out there for your own review.
Comment by Danger on 10/7 @ 3:14 pm #
“rabbit-hole”
Is that your new racist code word JD? ;^)
Comment by geoffb on 10/7 @ 3:25 pm #
The cure for what psycho… points out is contained in Christian faith. No matter if you fool all of humanity, God knows, knows your truth to the bone. “Free as a bird” is temporally limited, but the punishment isn’t. That both inhibits the evil and gives the faithful a future resolution to look towards.
Comment by SBP on 10/7 @ 4:52 pm #
Dream On? Not Aerosmith. Bill Ayers.
I Dream of Jeannie? Bill Ayers.
Traumnovel (“Dream Novel”, on which Kubrick’s Eyes Wide Shut was based)? Bill Ayers.
I Had Too Much to Dream Last Night? Bill Ayers.
I agree with SarahW in #68, BTW. He either wrote it or provided so much of the creative content that he should at least have been listed as a collaborator.
Comment by Rusty on 10/7 @ 6:52 pm #
Well. Lets look at it from a different angle. Since our great illustrious leader has no track record of ever doing or finishing anything, My money’s on Ayers as the writer. Writing is just too mundane for our “O”.
Comment by B Moe on 10/7 @ 6:57 pm #
Damn. Do we need to get Snowcone to explain this thread to Jefferson?
Comment by Ric Caric on 10/7 @ 8:59 pm #
I confess. I wrote both of Obama’s books. Royalty checks are good and I’m living on one of the islands. Sorry, gotta run. I hear Tattoo calling “The Plane! The Plane!” Wait a minute. What’s happening. That’s Jeff, Darlene, and the Protein Wisdom gang walking out to meet the plane. I know it’s them because I can hear Jeff talking about how smart he is. Yeah, I forgot. You’re the people living on Fantasy Island. I’m just doing a little daydreaming while I work on Barack’s awesome third book–”Out of Kenya.”
Comment by SBP on 10/7 @ 9:02 pm #
Hey, did you ever manage to find an actual black person in your county?
Comment by Freedoms Truth on 10/7 @ 9:11 pm #
I AM Spartacus.
“The greatest trick Obama’s ghostwriter ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn’t exist.”
Comment by Freedoms Truth on 10/7 @ 9:19 pm #
“Your observation at#41 is a correct analogy. He did it, and is basically saying he gets a pass on it because there is no admissable evidence; that is to say many on the left are, and have, working hard to discredit Cashill, Andersen, and anyone else who can possibly provide corroborating evidemce, cirumstantial or otherwise, to the “caper” that is Ayers ghostwriting Dreams!…”
Then the ending may be like The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. A death-bed confession years from now, and the Joe Klein of the day, finally hearing the truth, will rip up the confession and throw it in the fire, and say … “Print the myth.”
Comment by geoffb on 10/7 @ 10:53 pm #
“The greatest trick Obama’s ghostwriter ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn’t exist.”
But can he live with no one knowing or how does it feel to be the tree falling in the uninhabited forest.
Comment by Rusty on 10/8 @ 5:14 am #
74.Hi. Perfesser. You’re a dope.
Comment by Abe Froman on 10/8 @ 5:32 am #
I confess. I wrote both of Obama’s books. Royalty checks are good and I’m living on one of the islands. Sorry, gotta run. I hear Tattoo calling “The Plane! The Plane!” Wait a minute. What’s happening. That’s Jeff, Darlene, and the Protein Wisdom gang walking out to meet the plane. I know it’s them because I can hear Jeff talking about how smart he is. Yeah, I forgot. You’re the people living on Fantasy Island. I’m just doing a little daydreaming while I work on Barack’s awesome third book–”Out of Kenya.”
Hey! Do the Morehead State and Middle Tennessee State faculties ever do fifth-tier school group picnics? If so, seek out PROFESSOR OF GUITAR William Yelverton. The two of you would rather enjoy tossing the salad together.
Comment by Ric Caric on 10/8 @ 6:54 am #
I’ve decided to change the title of Barack’s third book to “Born in Qom Not Kenya.” That way I’ll be able to wrap up the “author fraud,” “birther,” and “Iranian world domination” fantasies into a nice little bow. You guys were right about Obama all along.
Comment by Pablo on 10/8 @ 7:13 am #
Baracky wouldn’t hire a pudgy, pasty white tool with a bad combover like you to ghostwrite for him, Perfesser. Also, you can’t write to save your life, so I suggest you come up with another Obama fantasy to occupy your otherwise idle mind.
Comment by Abe Froman on 10/8 @ 7:22 am #
It seems that teaching future file clerks at Shortbus State has given you a distorted sense of how smart and clever you are, Ric.
Comment by sdferr on 10/8 @ 7:54 am #
Ron Radosh takes up the Ayers/Leary encounter, brings a warning alongside a bit of new information, namely, Ayers pointedly playing the same game with a journalist from the National Journal, Will Englund, on or before Oct. 3rd.
Comment by McGehee on 10/8 @ 8:03 am #
Caricature’s appearance in this thread is so pathetic it isn’t even worth TrollHammering. C’mon, at least bring your D game.
Comment by sdferr on 10/8 @ 1:15 pm #
Steve Diamond has updated his earlier piece. Here’s a bit of that:
Comment by Rusty on 10/8 @ 3:48 pm #
81. Nope. Yer still stupid.
Comment by B Moe on 10/8 @ 4:34 pm #
I would go with Bethlehem myself, keep the base happy.
Comment by Ric Caric on 10/8 @ 6:26 pm #
I have to laugh about all the sniping about my job at Morehead State. Generally, I don’t say anything about Jeff’s Goldstein’s job status. Jeff’s insecure enough without me piling on. But you’re all groupies of a failed scholar who has no academic employment whatsoever (unless things have changed). I’m not sure you’re in much of a position to make fun of me.
Comment by B Moe on 10/8 @ 6:28 pm #
Trust us, we are.
Comment by Abe Froman on 10/8 @ 6:46 pm #
I have to laugh about all the sniping about my job at Morehead State. Generally, I don’t say anything about Jeff’s Goldstein’s job status. Jeff’s insecure enough without me piling on. But you’re all groupies of a failed scholar who has no academic employment whatsoever (unless things have changed). I’m not sure you’re in much of a position to make fun of me.
Jeff is a very gifted writer. You’re a circus clown who teaches carnival geeks. What choice do we have but to make fun of you?
Comment by McGehee on 10/8 @ 7:25 pm #
And yet you keep coming back for more.
Comment by Bernard on 10/8 @ 7:59 pm #
He’s jerking your chain dummy.
Comment by Rusty on 10/9 @ 4:05 pm #
#89
No. no. You don’t get it. It has nothing whatsoever to do with what you do , perfesser. It’s because you’re dumb, and you think you’re smart. Makes for the comedy, it does.