Tea Party in D.C. [Darleen Click] Updated again and again

	Return to Protein Wisdom homepage « Rahm’s Census Bureau ’severs ties’ with criminal enterprise ACORN [Darleen Click] \| Home \| Time once again to play Trapped Miners…(The Sanity Inspector) » September 12, 2009 Tea Party in D.C. [Darleen Click] Updated again and again scroll down for updates Obama makes sure he’s not in town. (screenshot via traffic cam h/t SBP) I caught a couple of minutes of CNN coverage with reporters in the crowd almost incredulous as they interviewed people who said this was the first time they ever turned out for a political rally and, no, no one paid them to show up. Of course, it’s not going to keep Democrats from backroom dirty tricks ***************************** Abe points out that Tea Party organizers received a bomb threat yesterday. Anyone know where Markos or Amanda were at the time? *************************** UPDATE I missed the introduction of this speaker, but he’s a Marine and he just fired up the crowd with his short, passionate, patriotic speech. If someone finds this later on YouTube, let me know. Oh, and I find the “quote” marks around Tea Party rather annoying. ****************************** Note the hand-lettered signs. ****************************** Oh, the smell of Leftcult desperation! ****************************** Bwhahahah! ******************************** Spokebrain Charles Johnson (Lizardoid on Twitter) dismisses everyone at the DC rally because he’s forgotten 9/11. He’d rather bag on the hip hop performers who were out-of-sync due to the venue. Oh, how important! One of the biggest marches on DC by people who rarely come out for rallies because they are determined not to have the CongressMasters (of either party) and Obamessiah institute the NannyState. Sad little 9/10 Obamaphile male. ********************* (via VodkaPundit) ********************** 12:54 PDT Rally is now closing — God Bless America is being played. ********************** Crowd shot as people are leaving peacefully … Yeah, they look like angry, insane, racist Astroturfers, eh? Posted by Darleen @ 9:24 am Comments (280) \| Trackback 280 Comments ::: Post a comment » Comment by Abe Froman on 9/12 @ 9:33 am # You might want to add the bomb threat the DC Tea Party planners received yesterday. Comment by Joe on 9/12 @ 9:38 am # How is this for a dirty trick? Could they be that stupid to try this? I think quite a few of us would donate to the defense fund and the publicity would be awesome. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 9:46 am # Supposedly Gibbs claimed this morning that Obama hadn’t heard anything about this. So, stupid, lying, or both? Comment by Dotcoman on 9/12 @ 9:47 am # Not to mention that the Prostitute ACORN video aired on FNC, Glen Beck radio and Rush Limbaugh, among a very, very small list of others. So these two heroes might have access to Rush’s lawyers, FNC’s lawyers etc., and Murdock’s Billions. Oh?! Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 9:51 am # NYT refers to this as “scores” of people. “Scores”. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 9:52 am # Oh, now it’s “tens of thousands”. Keep going, you’re only a couple of orders of magnitude away! Comment by Bob Reed on 9/12 @ 9:52 am # As a former resident of DC I can attest to the fact that the top photo Darleen posted, a view looking east down Pennsylvania avenue towards the capitol from the region adjacent to the White House, is that of a wide street, 80-90 feet, that stretches a little over a mile! And as you can see it is packed with people… I lived there for many years, and witnessed many demonstrations, celebrations, etc… But the group in these photos is probably the largest I have ever seen, bar none! Far more than the million man march, or any of the nutroot assaults on DC… There will easily be more than a million there. I wish I was too, but the needs of my mother-in-law had to trump my need to go speak TROOOOOOOF! TO POW-AH! Comment by Bob Reed on 9/12 @ 9:54 am # This thread is about the tea party in DC, in case any haven’t noticed… Let’s keep it on the subject, OK? Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 9:56 am # Pic from someone’s cell phone. Comment by Blake on 9/12 @ 9:57 am # If you feel like doing some internet dumpster diving, check out some of the comments regarding this march. The left is in a tizzy over the 9/12 Tea Party protest. As such, they’re all engaging in the usual name calling while refusing to admit the Tea Party protesters may just have a point. The leftists also refuse to admit the election of Obama wasn’t a mandate, rather, it was a reaction to Bush and his profligate spending. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 9:58 am # Live Twitter feed. Comment by JD on 9/12 @ 9:59 am # How racist can you people be? This is like a KKK convention. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 9:59 am # I’ve got the CNN ‘net livefeed going on my ‘puter and when they pan the crowd it is still amazing to see that the majority of signs are HAND lettered! Comment by Joe on 9/12 @ 10:05 am # Bob Reed, the thread is also about dirty tricks by lefties. Prosecuting O’Keefe for the ACORN expose would count as a dirty trick, just like calling in fake bomb threats during the tea party counts as a dirty trick. The problem with such tricks is they will back fire on the lefties who try it. Comment by Snowcone on 9/12 @ 10:09 am # I found the black guy. It’s like “Where’s Waldo?” Comment by JHo on 9/12 @ 10:11 am # Live FOX feed. Go get ‘em, people. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 10:15 am # Snotcone I want to see his speech repeated because it has, so far, been one of the best and I didn’t catch his name. Typically, you see only his skin color. Who is the racist? Comment by Bob Reed on 9/12 @ 10:17 am # Joe, You’re inviting comments like that made by Dotcoman Comment by Bob Reed on 9/12 @ 10:21 am # The liberals are in a tizzy because the scale of this crowd has far and away eclipsed any of the marches for troooooof! and social justice that they have ever mounted on the nations capital… And all privately motivated, funded, and inspired; no rabble rousing community organizers or astroturfers involved, no union thigs being paid to be there, etc… Just a genuine grassroots sysnthesis of the millions that are dissatisfied with the statist policies be foisted upon our nation using the connivance of an expedient crisis… Comment by JHo on 9/12 @ 10:22 am # And no 24/7 monopoly newz left-o-media shilling either, Bob. Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 10:24 am # Read. Comment by geoffb on 9/12 @ 10:27 am # Live Fox News Feed. Comment by cranky-d on 9/12 @ 10:27 am # Will the legacy media downplay the numbers? Will they dismiss the participants as being paid to be there (because they know, if it were them, that would be the case)? Is the sky blue? This is gratifying. The Democrats have awakened the people. That doesn’t happen very often any more. Comment by Bob Reed on 9/12 @ 10:31 am # Excellent point, JHo. It’s really pretty exciting when you think about it. Small groups of local folks, all having talked about their own dissatisfaction, linked together through the communicative revolution of the internet so that their protest can be coordinated for maximum effect… Although I’m sure the MSM will give this as little play as possible, the sheer size of the crowd, perhaps the largest I’ve seen in my life ever, will force some mention of it… And for the blue-dog dems, who had second thoughts about enjoying the cover of Obama’s rah-rah address on Wednesday? well they better come back to reality and realize that the people of this nation are not simply going to lose interest. Collectively, a large oercentage of our nation is rejecting Obama and the Democrats statist solutions to the drummed up crisis they contend is faced be our nation, and today’s protest is proof… There’s easily more than the ~~million~~couple of hundred thousand man march, and more too than assembled for Obama’s Historic*! inauguration… That should tell him something about his percieved, mandate… Comment by Ric Locke on 9/12 @ 10:35 am # …I find the “quote” marks around Tea Party rather annoying.* Oh, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet. What Teh Medja will do is dig through the crowd until they find enough shouting loons to be “representative” of the bunch. They will then go back to the office and begin scanning through the recordings, looking for the sparsest possible assemblages of my relatives and associates, that is, the worst-dressed, least kempt, and most toothless people in the group, with flags for the editors put on anyone prepared to shout something that can be sound-bitten to sound “racist”. The TEA partiers will go home to discover, through the Magic of Television™, that the “protest” consisted of a few dozen, perhaps a couple of hundred, malcontents whose only intent was to see to it that brown people die from lack of medical care, and whom the Dear Leader may ignore or (preferably) send to the gulags. The “reporters”, editors, and newsreaders will retire to the nearest bar, where they will lament their declining viewership and/or readership and wonder how such a thing could possibly happen. I would like to suggest that, instead of checking the teevee to see how it really went, TEA partiers might have a look at Blow Out Congress, a (no doubt futile, but reach must exceed grasp and all that) attempt set up AFAIK by a minor Dallas talk-radio host with the goal of booting out all the incumbents regardless of race, creed, color, country of national origin, Party allegiance, or preference in T-shirts. A job worth doing, if at all possible. Regards, Ric Comment by Snowcone on 9/12 @ 10:35 am # the sheer size of the crowd, perhaps the largest I’ve seen in my life ever, will force some mention of it… Haha, I take it you missed Obama’s inauguration? And every NFL game ever played? Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 10:36 am # Will the legacy media downplay the numbers? Maybe they’re realizing they can’t get away with it this time. Michelle Malkin on Twitter relayed that ABC is estimating 2 million. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 10:37 am # Haha, I take it you missed Obama’s inauguration? Hahaha. This is bigger. Sorry. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 10:37 am # BTW, which NFL stadium holds 2 million people, Snotcone? Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 10:39 am # Ric As I’ve been listening to the speeches the one thing that comes through is this is really non-partisan. The uniting theme is that these are Americans opposed to Big Government regardless of who is proposing it. The Marine I cited above was quite adament about that. This is really grassroots anti-incumbent stuff. Comment by Ric Locke on 9/12 @ 10:42 am # Darleen, You know that. I know that. But what’s going to show up on the seven o’clock news will be more like Snowcone’s take on it. Hide and watch. Regards, Ric Comment by No one you know on 9/12 @ 10:42 am # Darleen @ 30 Yes, we hear how the Dems are trying to manage the expectations of the march today, but I’m thinking that Beltway Republicans should be extremely worried as well. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 10:44 am # #32 No one During the April Tea Parties, Republican congresscritters who tried to show up and take advantage of the rallies were shocked to find they were booed pretty much in equal measure to Dems. Comment by JD on 9/12 @ 10:46 am # Off to the Ohio St / USC game. Keep your aim downrange ! Comment by Bob Reed on 9/12 @ 10:49 am # “Haha, I take it you missed Obama’s inauguration?” This crowd is, by far, much larger. And in contrast to the most ethical party, EVAH!, the one that allegedly assigned “green watchers” or wardens to every cohort of inaugural worshipers, and then didn’t bother to actually police the area afterward as they, you know, promised to, this bunch will most certainly leave the national mall and Capitol grounds much cleaner than the Obama cult members did… And which NFL stadium holds more than 100,000 people? Yeah, I thought so, none… Your mindless jibes are so asinine as to provoke pity for you more than rage… Comment by JHo on 9/12 @ 10:50 am # “Official” DC po-lice reports put the pre-event crowd at a paltry 1.2mm, snoblow. 2mm is likely. Ever see two million toothless racists all together at one time, no-go? Making the biggest doors of power quake with their passing? Be afraid, boy. This is what the Bill of Rights looks like. This is history. 2010 will herald change. How do we know? Because the supermajority is already ham-strung. Comment by Y-not on 9/12 @ 10:51 am # ‘Reminds me of my favorite scene from the Quiet Man: “I think your in-laws are comin´ to visit you, Squire Danaher.” Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 10:52 am # Assorted pics. Comment by Blake on 9/12 @ 10:53 am # Darleen, I believe there was a Tea Party in CA where a CA Assemblyman was told to sit down, shut up and listen. Most of the stuff I read about Tea Party activists says they refuse to be hijacked and used by career politicians, no matter what the political affiliation. Comment by Bob Reed on 9/12 @ 10:54 am # You may be right Ric, indeed we’ve seen them perform editing magic before to support the preffered narrative. But, with such a large crowd in attendance there will be a sizeable number of people to call bullshit on anyone that tries to diminish the event back in their hometowns… It’s like the Russians and the Afghan war in the ’80s; no matter how much the Pravdas of the MSM try to say that the glorious peoples republic was winning the war, there were enough vets at home to call BS on the propagand and, in small groups, tell the folks what was really happening at the front… So we’ve got that goin’ for us! Comment by chasingwaterfalls on 9/12 @ 10:55 am # One of the best signs I’ve seen at the rally today: “It doesn’t matter what this sign says you’ll call it racism anyway.” Heh http://picfog.com/search/%23912dc Comment by JHo on 9/12 @ 10:57 am # It’s like the Russians and the Afghan war in the ’80s; no matter how much the Pravdas of the MSM try to say that the glorious peoples republic was winning the war, there were enough vets at home to call BS on the propagand and, in small groups, tell the folks what was really happening at the front… The MSM is Baghdad Bob. The thought of them quavering in their towers this weekend is almost as delicious as that of the royal housecleaning 2010 will bring. Comment by JHo on 9/12 @ 10:58 am # I’m sorry, did I say housecleaning? Comment by Snowcone on 9/12 @ 10:58 am # This crowd is, by far, much larger. Geez Bob, I bet even you don’t believe that whopper. Comment by LTC John on 9/12 @ 10:59 am # I was on stand-by for the Innauguration – as were many others. THey needed NONE of us, as the crowd numbers were much spareser than the ELEVENTY BILLION!!!11! predicted. This appears to be waaaayyy more than that event. I’ve been in Lambeau and Soldier Fields – they couldn’t hold a small fraction of this crowd. Comment by Joe on 9/12 @ 10:59 am # This is a giant rally and it is very much grass roots. I hope the left does ignore it, like people on the beach staring at an unusually low tide just before the Tsunami hits, they ignore it at their own risk. Comment by Joe on 9/12 @ 11:00 am # Lookie Snowcone, a starfish! Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 11:01 am # # Geez Bob, I bet even you don’t believe that whopper. # Geez, Snotcone. Take your Thorazine. So you’re claiming that all these pics are Photoshopped? Yeah, good luck with that. Comment by LTC John on 9/12 @ 11:02 am # But why believe me when all I had was access to the resources of the NGB, DoD, and other Federal agencies. Sno just knows. Comment by JHo on 9/12 @ 11:02 am # Geez Bob, I bet even you don’t believe that whopper. The DC cops, blowcone. 1.2mm a half hour early. 2mm projected. Yikes. I’m guessing you exercise your right to denial every four years, don’t you. Comment by LTC John on 9/12 @ 11:07 am # JHo – DC cops – pfft. Known kulaks. GOP shills. Splittists and Wreckers. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 11:07 am # chasing… I just found the same pic via twitter and posted it above! Comment by Bob Reed on 9/12 @ 11:08 am # That’s right JHo, and remember in the past how the nutroots always tried to claim that the DC and National Capital Park police forces always underestimated the crowd size..? I heard that flotsam for years, and now they’ll try to say that these same groups are instead overestimating the crowd… Kinda like Massachussettes now wants the governor to be able to appoint a new senator, but when Romney was Governor?-NO GUBENATORIAL APPOINTMENTS SHOUD BE ALLOWED! It’s all part of The Hypocrisy!… Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 11:10 am # what snotcone ignores is that the DC rally isn’t the only 9/12 project rally being held today. Comment by Blake on 9/12 @ 11:10 am # Snowcone, your willful denial is absolutely astounding. A presidential inauguration is a big deal, especially Obama’s. Now, there’s a huge protest with crowds that rival the inauguration and you leftists are trying to proclaim it as “no big deal.” How’s that again? Comment by JHo on 9/12 @ 11:10 am # But leftist ideology is pure and right, Bob. It speaks truth to power. Supports the hallowed Constitution. If you don’t believe me, ask them. Just don’t trust your lying eyes. Comment by Bob Reed on 9/12 @ 11:14 am # OK gang, I gotta run for a while; It’s my MIL’s 84th B-day and there is a crowd at my house, so I can’t stay and enjoy the great conversation… Too bad, otherwise I’d be reporting live from DC! Catch up with you fine folks later… Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 11:17 am # Tell her Happy Birthday from me, Bob! Comment by JHo on 9/12 @ 11:18 am # That sho be one pa’fo passal ‘o racists, eh choadcone? Bet a bunch ‘a ‘em ole boys be carryin’, too. And a’ shoutin’ and a’ carrin’ on sum’in fierce. Speaking about enforcing rights and liberties and representative government, as it turns out. That’s how you support the Constitution, son. Extending Miranda rights to terrorists via activist judges, not quite so much. Comment by Ric Locke on 9/12 @ 11:18 am # …with such a large crowd in attendance there will be a sizeable number of people to call bullshit on anyone that tries to diminish the event… They have already conclusively demonstrated that they don’t give a [something valueless] about that. Every single one of those people is going to go home and turn on CNN, MSNBC, CBS, or one of the other alphabeciles, and there they will learn that they were part of a minuscule “demonstration” consisting entirely of Republican partisans whose agenda is killing off brown people as quickly as possible and opposition to the Dear Leader whose beneficence is showered upon the Weak and Oppressed™, just as Snowcone outlines. And every single one of them will conclude that the alphabeciles are either lying through their teeth or too ignorant to pound sand; in either case, that they can’t be trusted to let people know what’s going on. So they’ll turn off the TeeVee, or switch to the Seinfeld reruns and/or Design Star, and the readership and viewership for the MSM will go down another notch. And the next time the MSM have the opportunity, they’ll do exactly the same thing again. They know The TRVTH, you see, and sacrificing their credibility is a small price to pay for propagating The TRVTH. The total value, as stock price multiplied by shares outstanding, of the NYT is now less than the value of the real estate they occupy — and Pinch doesn’t care. It’s too important that The TRVTH be got “out there”. Regards, Ric Comment by LTC John on 9/12 @ 11:23 am # Ric, Not like Pinch will end up drawing unemployment benefits. So he can preside over the dissolution of a paper that once set the agenda for the media in this country – for the higher purpose of teh TRVTH! Comment by JeffS on 9/12 @ 11:31 am # #43, JHo: “I’m sorry, did I say housecleaning?” You did. Please, feel free to say it again. Comment by Snowcone on 9/12 @ 11:34 am # …you leftists are trying to proclaim it as “no big deal.” Nope, I’m just saying, “It doesn’t look like anywhere near 50% of America’s voters.” That’s the only number that matters. Plus…all the travel money that people spent here isn’t being donated to your wacko candidates. Comment by Blake on 9/12 @ 11:38 am # Ric, There used to be an axiom about dissatisfied customers, in that one upset customer would tell 7 others, if I remember correctly. No matter what MSM does, politicians ignore the these protesters at their own peril, because of the dissatisfied customer rule. You’ve got 1.2 million protesters at DC. They are the ones that could make it to DC. Beyond them, they represent probably 5 or 6 million people who couldn’t make it to the protest. (probably more, but, let’s use numbers that are a bit on the conservative side) No politician that wants to keep his job can afford to ignore that many people. Comment by Spiny Norman on 9/12 @ 11:39 am # Feeling under the weather a bit today, Sno? Your trolling is getting weaker by the moment. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 11:39 am # I’m just saying, “It doesn’t look like anywhere near 50% of America’s voters.” funny 52% of American voters didn’t turn out to The Won’s inaugural. weep for yourself Snotcone Comment by Blake on 9/12 @ 11:42 am # Snowcone, you really are too stupid to understand this, but, I’ll try. Republicans and Democrats each have a lock on about 1/3 of voters. That leaves 1/3 of voters up for grabs. Those are the votes that count. And, you were trying to claim this protest was no big deal, through comparing the size of the crowd to Obama’s inauguration and crowds that attend football games. As in “no big deal, more people attended the inauguration and football games.’ Putz. Comment by Ric Locke on 9/12 @ 11:44 am # For those interested, I recapitulated my comments, with editing (especially for HTML usage :-( )[1] over at my place. Regards, Ric [1]I use so many italics that my fingers automatically try to close any tag with </i>. sigh Comment by peter jackson on 9/12 @ 11:47 am # I found the black guy. What, did you give him the day off? Comment by Chris Lucente on 9/12 @ 11:47 am # The crowd looks pretty white to me. Of course, there are a few exceptions, but by and large it looks like a bunch of angry rednecks. Why do you rubes always vote against your own interests? You are being used by Wall St, and the big insurance companies to do thier dirty work for them. Comment by JeffS on 9/12 @ 11:47 am # Nope, I’m just saying, “It doesn’t look like anywhere near 50% of America’s voters.” Darleen, you nailed it best, but SnoBone has also invalidated every single leftie protest since 2001, and for the foreseeable future. Unless there are 52% of American voters present, said protest is meaningless. You heard it here first, folks! PS: SnoBone, you’re a loser. Pingback by Six Meat Buffet » Blog Archive » 9/12 DC Style on 9/12 @ 11:47 am # [...] has a good roundup over at PW. She uncorked this nugget [...] Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 11:51 am # Funny, Chris. I could’ve sworn that Teleprompter Jesus had been busy handing out trillions of dollars to Wall Street and insurance companies. What other things are different over there on your alternate timeline? Comment by Canada Corner on 9/12 @ 11:52 am # 67 “Comment by TheasrulesDarleeen on 9/12 @ 11:40 am # Notice how Darleen finds the one black person out of a thousand and highlights him on the post, as well as a racist sign.” Notice how TheasrulesDarleeen beclowns himself? Please explain the racism in the sign if you can. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 11:53 am # Nice attempt to shift the goalposts, Snotcone. And by “nice” I mean “laughably incompetent”. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 11:54 am # P.S. to Chris: I’m pretty sure that mean IQ and education level here is considerably higher than yours. Not bad for a bunch of “rubes”. Comment by JeffS on 9/12 @ 11:55 am # #71, Chris: You are being used by Wall St, and the big insurance companies to do thier [sic] dirty work for them. So, Obama is not holding the pharmaceutical companies to his deal with them? And they don’t have to spend that $150 million after all? Projection is so ugly, Chris. You might want to look into professional help. Comment by royf on 9/12 @ 11:59 am # Why do you rubes always vote against your own interests? You are being used by Wall St, and the big insurance companies to do thier dirty work for them. Bwahahahahahahahaha! my sides are splitting, You have any more comedy gold to share with us there Chris. Comment by JD on 9/12 @ 12:03 pm # Chris is just trying to keep up with snotnose and TehAss. Be kind. They have their talking points, memes, and marching orders, and no simple facts are going to deter them. Comment by Deborah on 9/12 @ 12:03 pm # We went to the Hartford, CT Tea Party yesterday, and really wished we went to the DC one also. Despite the pouring rain, people stayed. I’ve never been to a demonstration like this before, but thoroughly enjoyed the experience. It wasn’t perfectly put together, but so many folks were happy to be there :) Many of the signs stated that it’s not about republican/democrat, it’s about personal freedom! Pingback by DC Bob « SBP’s Random Walk on 9/12 @ 12:05 pm # [...] Inspired by Snowcone at Protein Wisdom. [...] Comment by Diogenes on 9/12 @ 12:05 pm # “ Why do you rubes always vote against your own interests?</i?” Because some of us will stand for liberty, and against statism, regardless of how much try to bribe us. Because we know that the Republic is finished as soon as we can be bribed with our own money. And because we are getting tired of being offered “candy” to get in the car with you “ideological pedophiles”. Our parents taught us better, and the statist indoctrination at the public school didn’t take! Comment by JD on 9/12 @ 12:09 pm # Vote against my own interests? I cannot think of one single solitary way that your redistributive collectivist statist policies are in my best interest, ny family’s best interests, or our country’s best interests. Try again, bigot. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 12:10 pm # Unconfirmed reports that highways and trains are still jammed with people trying to get into DC. The number 2.5 million is being floated. Note the “unconfirmed” part. Comment by J. "Trashman" Peden on 9/12 @ 12:15 pm # Who let the fake Parrots loose? Typically, you see only his skin color. Who is the racist? Either inheritance or etching upon their own self-admitted Blank Slates seems to have actually occurred – to make them the tortured, unable-to-escape-by-projecting beings we witness, also as some kind of plague. And just as they keep telling us! Therefore, it would be only merciful to let Dr. Zeke’s ~~Rationing~~ cost containment begin with them, for the good of ~~the Communist Party~~ Humanity! Comment by Ric Locke on 9/12 @ 12:16 pm # Snowcone, unlike the rest of the commentariat here I’m going to agree that you have something approaching a point that can’t be concealed by a good hairdresser. The problem is, it doesn’t lead where you think it does, and where it does lead is very dangerous… for you, and for a lot of causes that you claim to hold dear without any real evidence that you are prepared to support them with anything but snark. I’ve said it before, but it bears repeating: half a century or so ago, your predecessors came to me and mine and complained that we were perpetuating injustice. The arguments were sufficiently persuasive that we agreed — or, at least, enough of us did — to go along with attempts to correct that longstanding condition. Very important: What we agreed to was equal protection under the law; it was not “our turn in the barrel”. If you gave an accurate precis of the current situation via time machine to the people back then, including many of the advocates of civil rights, the whole matter would have been dismissed. Whether you believe it or not, I and my friends, relatives, neighbors, and associates bent considerable effort to see to it that the black people we were oppressing had the means of survival, so long as they didn’t get “out of line” — and we did so a lot less expensively than you manage, because we didn’t filter all the money through Washington first. A black person who showed up at the TEA part[y\|ies] would be “out of line” from your point of view, hmm? –and such an individual would be subject to pretty severe sanctions when he got back home, all couched as authenticity or proper behavior, just like we did it. Regards, Ric Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 12:17 pm # “My ass, the only place the Democrats are willing to drill.” LOL! Comment by JD on 9/12 @ 12:17 pm # 2,000,000 people attend a football game, regularly you ignert redneck rubes. Comment by No one you know on 9/12 @ 12:17 pm # I’m trying to figure out which sign is racist? What, a bit of commentary about the dearth of good faith argument on the port side now means that the guy carrying the poster doesn’t like brown people? Well, thanks for proving the guy’s point. Pingback by Tea party Shock and Awe … Washington, DC Tea Party … WOW!!! We the People March on Washington … \| Scared Monkeys on 9/12 @ 12:31 pm # [...] h/t: Protein Wisdom [...] Comment by Rick on 9/12 @ 12:31 pm # An important consideration when drawing comparisons between the last Inaugural turnout, and this heartening affair, is the political coloration of the DC metro area. Deep blue, so when the Federal government closes, as on every Inauguration Day, the scores of thousands of, we may be pretty sure, mostly Democrat government employees, plus the thousands of Fed teat hangers-on (lobbyists, special interest groups, lawyers, union HQs, etc.) will easily inflate the turnout. More power FROM the people, so no wonder they’re enthused, and soooo there. Today’s people, to a greatly higher percentage, I maintain, had to travel from more distant points. To the imperial capital from the provinces. Cordially… Comment by Joe on 9/12 @ 12:32 pm # I forced myself to flip back and forth between Fox, CNN and MSNBC. Fox is almost completely Beck and the DC Protests, CNN devoted about 30-60 seconds per hour to it (very underplayed) and MSNBC is covering the President’s speech elsewhere (nothing on the DC Protest). Comment by Joe on 9/12 @ 12:34 pm # Comment by JD on 9/12 @ 12:17 pm # 2,000,000 people attend a football game, regularly you ignert redneck rubes. You would probably litterally get nose bleeds in the upper seats of a stadium big enough for 2 million. Comment by Joe on 9/12 @ 12:36 pm # But Snocone wants a 2 million person stadium so he and his Obamaphiles and worship da one together. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 12:38 pm # According to Wikipedia the largest current stadium is Rungrado May Day Stadium in Pyongyang, North Korea with a capacity of 150,000. Largest in the United States is Beaver Stadium at Penn State, 107,282. Of course, JD would be the expert here. Comment by JD on 9/12 @ 12:39 pm # I sat in the top row of Nealon @ UT and it was waaaaay up there, and I think it only hold 109,000. The Horseshoe may get 110,000 tonite against USC. Comment by LTC John on 9/12 @ 12:39 pm # Joe, I rather hope you are not surprised at that. Comment by royf on 9/12 @ 12:42 pm # Joe you need to go to C-span it is showing the speakers and they have been great. Comment by Blake on 9/12 @ 12:43 pm # Joe, The Obamaphile House of Worship would be the first inverted stadium in history. Obama would need to be on high so his acolytes can look up to him. Comment by JD on 9/12 @ 12:44 pm # SBP – That sounds right, but those numbers only reflect physical seats, not actual capacity. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 12:44 pm # Is that counting standees, JD, or is Wikipedia full of shit? Wouldn’t be the first time that had happened. Comment by jdeldin on 9/12 @ 12:44 pm # The important thing about all of this is the majority of true Americans do not want this health bill and no more spending. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 12:44 pm # Sorry, must’ve posted my #102 just as you posted your #101. That’s what I was thinking. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 12:46 pm # Wikipedia also says that the Circus Maximus in ancient Rome may have held as many as 270,000. Now that’s a fuckin’ stadium. Comment by JD on 9/12 @ 12:52 pm # SBP – That sounds fuckin’ awesome. How cool would that be? Comment by geoffb on 9/12 @ 12:57 pm # University of Michigan “The largest crowd in NCAA college football history was 112,118 on November 22, 2003 for a game against Ohio State.” Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 1:03 pm # If I had a series of pics up there of nothing but the melanin-enriched people in the crowd AND speakers, it would be “singling” out. But that Marine wasn’t the only melanin-enriched SPEAKER. I put the pic up so someone would give me his name and/or find the YouTube of his speech when it shows up on YouTube because I was impressed by his speech. The collectivist Left cannot see individuals, only pet groups, and you all see it demonstrated so clearly by the Leftcultbots showing up on this thread. Comment by Snowcone on 9/12 @ 1:10 pm # “WASHINGTON – Tens of thousands of people marched to the U.S. Capitol on Saturday” http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hQl_8buGOsYEwtCiIu7ZP99cmIWwD9ALT5R04 Oh dear. Now, I could believe 2 million people are asking Malkin to provide a link that backs up her “estimate” od 2 million. Comment by JeffS on 9/12 @ 1:15 pm # Hey, Ric, looks like SnoBone is helping out the Past Tense Media, as per #60. Comment by Charles' Johnson on 9/12 @ 1:16 pm # 25 Comment by Ric Locke on 9/12 @ 10:35 am # …I find the “quote” marks around Tea Party rather annoying. Oh, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet. What Teh Medja will do is dig through the crowd until they find enough shouting loons to be “representative” of the bunch. They will then go back to the office and begin scanning through the recordings, looking for the sparsest possible assemblages of my relatives and associates, that is, the worst-dressed, least kempt, and most toothless people in the group, with flags for the editors put on anyone prepared to shout something that can be sound-bitten to sound “racist”. ——————————————————————————— What a coincidence. I’m doing the same thing at LGF. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 1:21 pm # snotcone it’s AssPress and they’ve been using the “tens of thousands” for the whole day. Nothing in that report sources its estimate. Comment by Blake on 9/12 @ 1:25 pm # Snowcone, focus, okay? First, you were “eh, no big deal, more people attended “The Wons” inauguration and football games. Now, you’re saying someone needs to demand proof that 2 million people showed up? Why do you care how many people showed up? It’s no big deal, anyway… Putz. ps. The original AP article said “thousands showed up to protest.” Evidently, they’ve corrected their article up. Interesting, isn’t it? Comment by Silver Whistle on 9/12 @ 1:43 pm # According to Duranty’s paper of record The crowd numbered well into the tens of thousands, though police declined to provide an estimate of the size of the crowd. The Washington Post is strangley mute on the biggest rally in their own back yard in, well, forever. And the BBC, otherwise known as the Organization for Democrats Abroad, haven’t noticed a goddamned thing. I guess this thing never happened. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 1:47 pm # Wow… Charles Johnson is really 5150 worthy VodkaPundit is linking to white supremacist blogger Robert Stacy McCain at Pajamas Media. WTF? Did I miss RSM showing up at a KKK rally? Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/12 @ 1:50 pm # “Why do you rubes always vote against your own interests?” Marlin Perkins” Ah, now here’s a rare occurance, we are seeing an actual Marxist talking point, and if you exam it closely, you can see the original genetic markers of the “false conciousness” meme so beloved of reactionary leftists. We’ll wait here while Jim wrestles with this vicious talking point. Comment by Joe on 9/12 @ 1:53 pm # royf, I am glad C-Span is covering it too. And LTC John, no, not surprised at all by the different treatments by the cable networks. Happens all the time. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 1:56 pm # Joe Spokebrain CJ is claiming that watching C-Span he’s “lost count” of Obama=Hitler signs. Comment by Joe on 9/12 @ 1:58 pm # Darleen, do you have the actual link to where LGF calls Stacy McCain a racist? I looked on your link but it just went to LGF in general and I could not find it (did find that Powerline delinked LGF so LGF delinked Powerline). Comment by Silver Whistle on 9/12 @ 2:00 pm # Joe, http://littlegreenfootballs.com/showc/23/7689761 Comment by Joe on 9/12 @ 2:01 pm # Darleen, I did see that post by Charles “listen to me ring my bike bell” Johnson. I was watching coverage and I do not recall seeing Obama = Hilter signs, so I am not sure what feed Charles is watching. Perhaps there were some, but given I did not see any in the crowd shots they must not be very widespread. Comment by SDN on 9/12 @ 2:01 pm # Charles Johnson has joined Balloon Juice. Sad. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/12 @ 2:02 pm # “Largest in the United States is Beaver Stadium at Penn State, 107,282.” Joe Paterno wept. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 2:06 pm # Joe, try this http://littlegreenfootballs.com/showc/23/7689761 Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 2:16 pm # Snotcone: there are pictures right at the top of this post that show how many people were there. You lose. Again. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 2:19 pm # I hope RSM sues him. That’s beyond the pale, even for Johnson. Comment by Wm T Sherman on 9/12 @ 2:20 pm # “Obama = Hitler signs?” I did not see a one. CJ’s irrational, obstinate behavior – could there be a woman involved? Comment by Joe on 9/12 @ 2:25 pm # Here is Charles Johnson’s bicycle. Comment by Ric Locke on 9/12 @ 2:29 pm # Amplification of my #87, above. I don’t think there’s any doubt that there’s a segment of the TEA Party movement that’s genuinely racist. I also don’t think that that means what the Leftoids think it means. Regards, Ric Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 2:30 pm # Reports that there was virtually no litter left behind. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 2:32 pm # Ric I agree. And this was a huge PUBLIC rally where anyone can show up to piggy-back on the crowds – sincere or moby. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/12 @ 2:33 pm # Here’s a fun fact: “Wilson campaign: Fundraising breaks $1 million, passes Miller” “A source on Rep. Joe Wilson’s campaign says his fundraising has broken $1 million — and surpassed that of his Democratic rival, Rob Miller — since his outburst of “You lie!” during President Obama’s address to Congress Wednesday. The source said Wilson’s current tally is $1,005,021 from 18,859 donations amid a high-profile campaign on the Drudge Report and elsewhere telling conservatives that Wilson is “under attack” for his willingness to take on Obama. Wilson, who initially apologized for his words, is now riding a reaction that has surpassed the liberal backlash to his words: Miller has raised less than $900,000, according to the Democratic fundraising site ActBlue” http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0909/Wilson_campaign_Fundraising_breaks_1_million_passes_Miller.html H/T to AOSHQ. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 2:35 pm # SBP I believe that…these are people who are vets, scouts (or former scouts) and people who actually use the National parks/wilderness for camping and hunting. Policing after one’s self and leaving a site as clean as you found it is a given. I know its an engrained habit for me and hubby (former scouts)… we tend to pick up and dispose of trash we run across at the park or beach. Comment by JD on 9/12 @ 2:36 pm # Take that, TehAss. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 2:37 pm # Hmm… no litter, no smashed windows, no arson, no need to have thousands tased, tear-gassed, and jailed… Comment by Spiny Norman on 9/12 @ 2:41 pm # Hmm… no litter, no smashed windows, no arson, no need to have thousands tased, tear-gassed, and jailed… Slocone will cite that as “proof” that the protest was “sparsely attended”. ;^) The same could probably be applied to the Alphabet Networks and their Dead Tree Media cohorts… Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 2:44 pm # The old “there is no sign that anyone was ever here so they must not have been here after all” line Spiny? Clever bastards the MSM. heh. Comment by Blitz on 9/12 @ 2:49 pm # I can’t find a link to the crowd estimate from ABC. A lttle help? Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 3:01 pm # Dunno, Blit. I got it from Michelle Malkin. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 3:01 pm # Blitz, I mean. Pingback by Tea Party and Legacy Media [Darleen Click] on 9/12 @ 3:03 pm # [...] all see the pictures below. But what will the NYTimes be reporting in print tomorrow? ahem Thousands Rally in Capital to [...] Comment by Blitz on 9/12 @ 3:06 pm # I’ve been to Malkin, ABC (eye bleach immediately applied) Drudge and google. Cannot find it. Don’t doubt it though!! Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 3:07 pm # I believe Malkin heard it via a live report, but nothing has showed up on the ‘net. I’m a little concerned that the police haven’t released an estimate yet. It’s not like they’ve never had rallies on the mall before. Why the delay? Comment by Blitz on 9/12 @ 3:12 pm # Found it Via Ace….Twitter feed. Nothing official yet. Comment by Blitz on 9/12 @ 3:17 pm # Darleen? I do not think they can count that high. Alternate scenario? They’re trying to figure a way to spin this like a waterspout. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 3:20 pm # Good aerial shot. Comment by geoffb on 9/12 @ 3:28 pm # “Why the delay?” Talking points, must coordinate with TPM, MM, OFA, WH. Pingback by 2 Million Strong « The Underground Conservative on 9/12 @ 3:39 pm # [...] at Protein Wisdom has more here, including this [...] Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 9/12 @ 3:44 pm # Odds of Barack being a one termer just went up significantly today. By sympathy, odds of him resigning b4 the end of 2012 also went up. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 3:44 pm # SBP It was cloudy all day in DC. I suspect that shot is of another rally. Someone may be posting it — ala moby — in an attempt to discredit the rally. It seems like the La Rouchies and some Paulians were in attendance and carrying the “Hitler” signs. Charles Johnson is practically orgasming over even innocuous signs he considers “proof” that Tea Parties are “controlled” by Creationists and Racists and Paulians. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 3:51 pm # As in the other thread, thanks for pointing that out, Darleen. Comment by happywash on 9/12 @ 4:39 pm # I am an Obama supporter. And I always will be. And I will say that I was impressed with the turnout. Almost as much as I was impressed with the anti-Iraq War Rallies in D.C. and across the country. If you’d like to compare numbers and pictures I will be happy to oblige. Now, I must once again say, sincerely, that I was surprised that so many turned up. But for anyone to think that a demonstration like this will stop Obama is dreaming. Millions protested the war. Did Bush change? Was he a one-term president? Did Bush resign? Even when his approval rating was in the 30s? No to all of that. And don’t forget, Obama won 53 percent of the vote. Which is his approval rating right now. You have no viable candidate right now. You won’t get a radical conservative elected. Not gonna happen. My point is peaceful protests, while important to America, changes very little. I was frustrated when I was in your place. Now it’s your turn. And, as was similar to the War protests, it makes it kind of hard to take seriously when you have “rappers” on the stage talking about birth certificates, and people holding the Nazi-Commie-Fascist signs. If these groups had stuck to the deficit, the debt, the out-of-control spending, and Congress as a whole, then it would have more impact. But some people couldn’t help themselves. Yes, there were many holding signs about government in general. But if the organizers had sense, they would’ve gotten the crowds on to the same message. There were thousands of well-meaning people there, but there were still thousands more who are angry because someone else told them to be angry. They are the ones carrying the ridiculous signs. Do you really think you can get more and more people behind you when so many of your groups don’t think Obama was born in America? Or that he is a fascist? One final thing. Beck’s reason for this 9/12 project was for people to go back to “what they were on that day.” Well, on that day, we were all behind the president. I saw nothing close to that today. I also don’t recall seeing nasty signs held up by people on that day, either. If you wanted an anti-Obama rally, then call it that. Because this day was nothing like 9/12/01. Nothing at all. Flame away, if you like, as long as that was your attitude on 9/12/01. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 4:44 pm # Well, on that day, we were all behind the president. If that’s what you took away on 9/12/01, I feel sorry for you. But reality is not the strong suit of Leftists…they are too busy living in a “utopian” future. Comment by JD on 9/12 @ 4:47 pm # You are a lying little stupid prick. Comment by happywash on 9/12 @ 4:47 pm # the president had a 90 percent approval rating. And everyone was together, Democrat and Republican. It is you I feel sorry for, because your kind of attitude was non-existent on that day. THAT’S what I took away from it. And looking at that rally, I saw no solidarity with all Americans. I don’t remember seeing fascist signs about any Americans on 9/12/01, did you? Comment by happywash on 9/12 @ 4:50 pm # “You are a lying little stupid prick.” Yes, JD, THAT’S THE 9/12 SPIRIT! I called no one names. But there we have it! JD is a wonderful American! Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 4:53 pm # I don’t know that Pres Bush had a 90% approval rating on 9/12/01. Are you generalizing about a 90% approval rating Bush acquired some (later) time in near proximity to 9/12? Could it be that the 90% approval came as a result of Bush’s actions and policies, worked out and articulated through Oct/Nov of ‘01 and carried forward into the early months of the next year? What happened on 9/11 didn’t happen as against Pres. Bush. It happened as against unknown people in airplanes and in iconic buildings. Against Americans and foreigners alike. Against human kind, if you’ld like to widen your view somewhat, but symbolically at least, against the nation at large. Why would your focus backward to that time land on Pres. Bush, rather than on things as they were? Comment by Rick on 9/12 @ 4:54 pm # Whatever the crowd tally, it quite exceeds MSNBC’s average audience numbers. And IQ level, as well. But that’s setting the bar low, on both points. Cordially… Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 4:55 pm # there were column inches devoted to people of the “Blame America” first camp starting on 9/12. People who wrote about being “uneasy” with US flags being flown and “jingoism” and “racism” being the “new Patriotism”. and of course, Euro’s Left was gleeful that America had gotten its “come-uppance”. What you would have seen today, if you actually lived in the real world, was a coming together, in DC and across the country, people who rarely EVER go to rallies (being busy, of course, with jobs and families and such… no professional protesters as seen during the “anti-war” rallies) showing up to voice their protest against the US government turning from Liberty and plunging into Statism. There is a difference between protesting a proposed change to the American system and protesting the US government engaging in its own self-defense. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 5:00 pm # happywash don’t come in here and attempt to piss all over a thread with what you think is the “true” motivations of the people here, Tea Partiers and non-leftists in general and expect that some of us are not going to take exception. when CongressCritters shake their fingers at constituents and sneer “and you are NOT going to tell me how to run my congressional office”, do not be surprised that said constituents are going to be annoyed with such arrogant prickism and turn out for Tea Parties. There are STILL Americans that believe being an ADULT is worth the risk rather than “entitled” serfs. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 5:03 pm # interesting, HW IP 207.181.236.52, Chicago, Illnois. happywash… and what say you of the criminal enterprise, ACORN? Comment by happywash on 9/12 @ 5:04 pm # Bush’s approval rating was near 90 percent very soon, about a week, after 9/11, so it didn’t have anything to do with his policies. And I am talking about Americans together and united. I saw no unity today. I saw anger at another political party, the president in particular, and please don’t deny that a lot of the anger is about the man. And then I get I’m a lying prick on this very board. I voiced my opinion, which, I thought, was the basis of American free speech. How is it a lie when i say protests, nearly all of the time, do very little to change policy? If you disagree, fine. I disagree with you, but I refuse to call anyone disgusting names. Misguided, yes. I’m sure you think that of me. But would you be talking to me like this on 9/12/01? No. Because we were united against a common enemy. But on 9/12/09, it seems the enemy with these protesters is Obama and anyone in his party. That is not unity. That is not fighting together. You see, if the more radical stuff could be pushed aside (fascism, birth certificates, etc.) then I would love to talk about health care policy and how government runs. I do want to listen. But if people call me “prick” and say that I support Communism, how can you expect me to join your cause? How can you expect others to join? Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 5:06 pm # “Bush’s approval rating was near 90 percent very soon, about a week, after 9/11…” I’d like to take your word for that, but I’m afraid I can’t, as 1) I’ve no particular memory of the polling myself and 2) I have no idea who you are (you’ve established no bona fides here as yet). Could you back up your assertion with a dated poll result? Comment by happywash on 9/12 @ 5:07 pm # See this is what I’m talking about. ACORN is a horrible organization. And what they did with those tax returns is reprehensible. Oooh, but you must think I’m a liar. And what’s so interesting about where I live? I am here to talk, and yet I get veiled threats by talking about my IP address and what city I live in. Is there anyone on this board who can talk rationally about issues? Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 5:10 pm # uh, ummm, oh well …. Comment by happywash on 9/12 @ 5:13 pm # http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/10/bush_approvalrating_alltime_lo.html This is a quote from another link (posted right under this quote): “Just before the attacks on New York and Washington, Bush’s job approval was at 51%, the lowest of his tenure. Then it rose to 90% Sept. 21, a record for presidents in the Gallup Poll. It stayed above 80% until March 4 and above 70% until July 22.” http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/2003-01-13-bush-poll_x.htm Here’s another one, in case you needed three different sources: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/16/opinion/polls/main4728399.shtml Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 5:15 pm # I don’t remember seeing fascist signs about any Americans on 9/12/01, did you? I remember seeing plenty of them at other protests, though. Your analogy is flawed, since there is no foreign terrorist attack under way. What have you been smoking that would make you equate the 9/11 attacks with the Obamunist’s attempt to ramrod socialized medicine down our throats? Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 5:18 pm # how is posting an IP address a “threat”? there are a lot of OFA paid trolls out there spamming sites that dissent from The One. If you’re not one, relax. But you are coming off rather touchy. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 5:21 pm # Your analogy is flawed, since there is no foreign terrorist attack under way. Let’s unpack this a little further: 1) Bush got the moral support of a large majority of the country because it was under attack. Therefore: 2) Obama should get the moral support of a large majority of the country because… it’s under attack? By whom? please don’t deny that a lot of the anger is about the man. Well, all righty then. We can’t have any LEGITIMATE objections to socialism. It’s got to be “about the man”. Sorry, you’re just another race-baiter. Comment by happywash on 9/12 @ 5:22 pm # “What have you been smoking that would make you equate the 9/11 attacks with the Obamunist’s attempt to ramrod socialized medicine down our throats?” I’m only repeating what Glenn Beck said this day was about. Getting back to how we were on 9/12/01. I didn’t come up with that, Beck did. And saying you saw signs at other protests proves my point. These protests are always partisan in nature. It was about W., and now it’s about Obama. I am trying to stick to the topic of the 9/12 project. Do you think Beck meant for Americans to come together, or do you think this day was about attacking Obama? Because it can’t be both. My analogy is perfect. Beck wanted everyone to come on this particular date to act like Americans did on 9/12/01. So, obviously, you have to look at the two dates, as Beck said, to see if, indeed people acted like they did on 9/12/01. I say they did not. They did, however, have an impressive protest rally against Obama’s policies. So, in my mind, the protest succeeded (in terms of rallying those of like mind), but the 9/12 project was lacking. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/12 @ 5:23 pm # “Flame away, if you like, as long as that was your attitude on 9/12/01.” Teh Stooopid™ is strong in this one, Obi-wan! Comment by McGehee on 9/12 @ 5:23 pm # Gee, if only something could happen to put Obama’s approval rating into the 90s, maybe he could stand a chance of getting re-elected in spite of these protests too. Whitewash, the difference between “millions” protesting the Iraq war and millions protesting ObamaCare and Obamanomics is, despite the protests, most Americans were still in favor of the mission in Iraq. Obama, not so much. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 5:24 pm # See, here’s your second mistake: Glenn Beck does not speak for me. I realize that your personal political philosophy requires the existence of an infallible leader. Mine does not. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/12 @ 5:24 pm # “Bush’s approval rating was near 90 percent very soon, about a week, after 9/11…” Which lasted until the Democrats and the MSM turned on him like rabid rats. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 5:25 pm # BTW, anyone else notice that happywash’s tachometer is starting to wind up just a tad? Comment by happywash on 9/12 @ 5:26 pm # Once again, if you don’t like the comparison, go to Beck. Look up what he said. I didn’t come up with the concept. He did. And not once did I mention race? I can’t believe people aren’t willing to just say they don’t like Obama, regardless of what color he is. I couldn’t stand Bush. Not because he was from Texas or from a wealthy family, but because I disagreed with his policies. All you have to do is ask yourself: did Americans look and act the way they did on 9/12/01? Remember, this is Beck’s project, not mine. He wanted to make the comparison. I watched his program today. He made it very clear that he was using 9/11 as a starting point for this rally and project, not me. If you have problems with the analogy, go ask him. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/12 @ 5:28 pm # “And I am talking about Americans together and united.” As if the Democrats have any interest in “unity” other than having people obey government orders. “I saw no unity today.” OMFG THE ARE PEOPLE OPPSOSED TO THE WON™!!!11!!1!! “I saw anger at another political party,” Nothing gets by you, does it? “the president in particular,” Nawwwww, we just dislike reactionary leftists as a generic species. “and please don’t deny that a lot of the anger is about the man.” Ok, you’re a fucking liar. Deal. Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 5:29 pm # One citation would have been enough, particularly when they are only saying the same thing about the same thing, which is, as you pointed out, Bush’s highest rating was on Sept 21 and more or less declined over time thereafter in the jiggity way such things go. Still, back to the unimportant question, I guess. “it didn’t have anything to do with his policies.” That may prove true as far as it goes, it may merely have had to do with how he conducted himself in the near aftermath of the attack, what he did and said when he went to NY to the pile and spent time with the firefighters and families of people lost, how he held himself and the nation in his words between the 11th and what, about the 15th/16th to have an effect on the poll? The first major speech on the way forward didn’t come until about the 21st – whoops, checking, I see it was on the 20th — that speech, still, may not have had an effect on the poll released on the 21st, as such things take a little time to sink in. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 5:29 pm # Once again, if you don’t like the comparison, go to Beck. Look up what he said. Fuck Beck and the horse he rode in on. Is that plain enough for you? I can’t believe people aren’t willing to just say they don’t like Obama, regardless of what color he is. I can’t believe you seriously believe that our dislike for socialism has anything to do with Obama, the man. Actually, he seems like a personable enough fellow to me. Except for the whole “being a communist” thing. All you have to do is ask yourself: did Americans look and act the way they did on 9/12/01? You’re repeating yourself, son. Remember, this is Beck’s project, not mine. No. It isn’t. Comment by happywash on 9/12 @ 5:34 pm # N. O’Brain, this whole discussion is about the 9/12 project and protest that happened today. And SBP, I care deeply about this country. And I will express my opinions strongly in the most hostile environments. But, notice, that I have not resorted to name-calling or attacked anyone on this board personally. And Beck may not speak for you, but he’s the one that came up with the idea. As to the infallible leader comment, I want a strong presidency, because I am an American. Obama is not a Communist or a Fascist, regardless of how many times people like to say that. He was democratically elected (and I am not one of those who believe that Bush stole the election, that was crazy talk). And he is my president. I may end up disliking him at the end, but not right now. I didn’t like Bush, I admit that. But I never wanted impeachment, or anything like that. Perhaps that’s a by-product of my military days (1994-1998…and I could care less if you don’t believe me). I voiced my displeasure of Bush at the voting booth. It didn’t have an impact. My vote had an impact in the last two elections. And I hope it will in 2010. SBP, do you want to taunt, or do you want to talk. As you can see, I’m still here, taking insults. Passion is not crazy anger. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 5:34 pm # this is Beck’s project What the heck are you babbling about? The Tea Party protests started back in FEBRUARY and Demonstrators held banners identifying themselves as part of a broad anti-Obama coalition of independents, libertarians and Republicans. I realize that Leftists replace God with a Dear Leader in order to rally. Non-Leftists come together over ideas (which is why this is so extraordinary. Getting non-Leftists to rally is like trying to herd cats). Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 5:37 pm # Obama is not a Communist or a Fascist, but he is basically a STATIST who is on record saying he doesn’t think the Constitution is properly written because it should be about “positive” rights rather than the “negative” rights. Obama doesn’t believe in America as it is or was founded, he believes in a future America configured to his statist beliefs. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 5:37 pm # But, notice, that I have not resorted to name-calling or attacked anyone on this board personally. Yes, you have. You’ve claimed, repeatedly, that the reason we’re opposed to Obama is because we don’t like him personally rather than disliking his policies. Which is the same as calling us liars. And Beck may not speak for you, but he’s the one that came up with the idea. That is not correct. Comment by Blake on 9/12 @ 5:37 pm # Look, eyewash, you can’t have a “discussion” when you display your disdain for said discussion by proclaiming how “perfect” your analogy is. By saying such, you’re claiming infallibility. Therefore any further discussion with you is pointless. By the way, today can be about coming together as Americans and attacking Obama. He heads an administration that is responsible for or pushing a lot of very unpopular programs. As such, it’s his responsibility. Comment by Joe on 9/12 @ 5:38 pm # Charles Johnson is practically orgasming over even innocuous signs he considers “proof” that Tea Parties are “controlled” by Creationists and Racists and Paulians. Ride on Charles “Pony Boy” Johnson, Ride! Comment by happywash on 9/12 @ 5:38 pm # sdferr, of course it had to do with Bush’s speech at Ground Zero. I’m not denying that. My point is America embraced him, and Republicans embraced Democrats, singing God Bless America on the Capitol Steps. And SBP, you’ll need to take up your denial of Beck’s creation of the 9/12 project with Fox News. I accept that you’re not a part of it, OK. And I accept that you’re speaking for yourself. I speak for myself Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 5:40 pm # By saying such, you’re claiming infallibility. Notice that he also claims infallibility when it comes to assigning our motives for opposing Obama. According to him, it has nothing to do with his policies. Which, of course, is total crap. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 5:41 pm # And SBP, you’ll need to take up your denial of Beck’s creation of the 9/12 project with Fox News. No, I won’t. You see, Fox News doesn’t speak for me, either. You’re completely mystified by the idea that someone could be capable of independent thought, aren’t you? Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 5:43 pm # Beck wanted everyone to come on this particular date to act like Americans did on 9/12/01. May I venture to agree that Mr Beck will not get his wish, if indeed, that is what his wish is. I don’t follow Mr Beck closely, though I do have a passing knowledge of him. As to “I’m not denying that. My point is America embraced him …” well, yes, they did, though you may remember you actually began (not that I like to pick nits, mind you, but this seemed at the time and seems even so now, to matter) that it was 9/12/2001 that counted, and that on that day Pres Bush had a 90% approval rating. But now we know, he didn’t. I asked off the jump, were you merely generalizing, giving you the opportunity to drop the 9/12 stuff, but you chose to go another way. meh. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 5:46 pm # happywash Why are you flogging Beck? Does the phrase “broad coalition” exist in your world? Tea Parties were pure grassroots way back in February long before Beck was ever on the horizon. Comment by happywash on 9/12 @ 5:47 pm # Fair enough, Blake. And I meant to say that my analogy was correct, insofar as it related to Beck’s Project. I don’t claim infallibility. And if you’ll look, Blake, at people responses (what am I smoking, lying prick) to that, how do you expect me to respond? SBP, OK. You, personally, are arguing against policies and policies only. I believe you. However, many many others are against Obama the man, be it because he’s the leader of the Democratic Party, or for any other reason. That is undeniable. Just like there were so many who hated Bush just because he was Bush. You’re against his health care, I respect that. I disagree, that’s all. Darleen, the title of the link starts with “Anti-Obama”! So funny. And Darleen, do you think that the Constitution should be about denying people rights? Because that’s what a negative right it. The Constitution is about positive rights, about what we as Americans have the freedom to do. If you disagree with the president, then do what you’re doing right now> Protest and vote against him. I respect that. And, OK, Darleen, I want to talk about your ideas. I really do. What are they? I’m not saying you don’t have them, I want to know what they are. Especially as it relates to health care. Should anything be done? Comment by happywash on 9/12 @ 5:49 pm # SBP, you ignore the posts where I say that I believe you. I know you think for yourself. Now can you say the same about me? Because if you can’t I must use your post against you. Because I am not mystified. Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 5:49 pm # “Just like there were so many who hated Bush” Nope, sorry, that little equivocation won’t wash. You’ll have to go much much farther in your analysis before anyone around here will accept that proposition. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 5:50 pm # u. However, many many others are against Obama the man Evidence? be it because he’s the leader of the Democratic Party, or for any other reason Opposing him because he is the leader of the Democratic Party and is thus charged with IMPLEMENTING THEIR POLICIES is not “being against Obama the man”, unless you’re envisioning the Democratic Party as a one-man god-king arragement such as the one in North Korea. Try harder. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 5:50 pm # Now can you say the same about me? It’s becoming quite clear that you’re not arguing in good faith. You get one more chance. Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 5:56 pm # Tell us happywash (an aside: why happywash?) how do you stand on the trade protection measures dropped into public view/non-view last evening? Were you content that this was the way to go to improve the US’s, nay, the world’s economic fortune? Or do you look at such a measure as a potential source of economic disaster, insofar as the risk of a retaliatory trade war may be in the offing? Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/12 @ 6:01 pm # “And not once did I mention race?” Quoth the Raven: “and please don’t deny that a lot of the anger is about the man.” So, you ARE a fucking liar. Deal. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/12 @ 6:02 pm # ” And SBP, I care deeply about this country.” No you don’t. You’re a reactionary leftist. And a liar. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/12 @ 6:03 pm # “Obama is not a Communist or a Fascist” See? Liar. Comment by Q Q on 9/12 @ 6:04 pm # KKK parade for sure, Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 6:04 pm # Oh, and can you tell us which one of Obama’s negative personal qualities would inspire people to travel thousands of miles to protest? Since it has more to do with personal dislike than policy and all, you should be able to pinpoint the irritating factor(s). Comment by A. Pendragon on 9/12 @ 6:06 pm # “I am an Obama supporter. And I always will be. And I will say that I was impressed with the turnout. Almost as much as I was impressed with the anti-Iraq War Rallies in D.C. and across the country.” “Now, I must once again say, sincerely, that I was surprised that so many turned up. But for anyone to think that a demonstration like this will stop Obama is dreaming. Millions protested the war. Did Bush change?” “You won’t get a radical conservative elected. Not gonna happen. My point is peaceful protests, while important to America, changes very little.” Anyone else getting a “Resistance is futile” vibe from this one? Not to mention an air of genuine desperation? Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 6:06 pm # KKK parade for sure, No, Robert Byrd wasn’t there. The KKK was a creation of the Democratic Party. Go peddle your lies somewhere else, where the people might be as ignorant of history as you are. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/12 @ 6:08 pm # “And I meant to say that my analogy was correct, insofar as it related to Beck’s Project.” Ah, I got it. You’re a mind numbed reactionary leftist robot, so EVERYONE has to be a mind numbed robot. Alrighty then…. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 6:08 pm # #202: Definitely. The 2010 and 2012 congressional elections are going to be a slaughter, At that point Obama’s remaining personal popularity (if any) becomes meaningless. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/12 @ 6:09 pm # “However, many many others are against Obama the man, be it because he’s the leader of the Democratic Party, or for any other reason.” Come on, you can say it. Really. “RACIST!!!!11!!!eleventy!!!11!!!” Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 6:10 pm # Kermit was wont to observe, it ain’t easy being green, Mr Pendragon. Mr Obama will be wont to observe, it ain’t easy being the Once. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/12 @ 6:11 pm # “Comment by Q Q on 9/12 @ 6:04 pm # KKK parade for sure,” The KKK is the terrorst arm of the Democrat party. Deal. Comment by Blake on 9/12 @ 6:19 pm # Eyewash, it wouldn’t matter who was in the White House pushing the current socialist agenda. Yes, it would be about the man, because the man is trying to ram unpopular programs down the throat of America. You leftists made it about the man, President Bush, when he was in office. Also, Eyewash, you should look at the Constitution a little more closely. The Constitution was explicitly and implicitly designed to limit the power of the Federal Government. Forget the “negative” and “positive” rights. A lot has been said about the subject, most of it for the purpose of giving people a way of working around what the Constitution was originally designed for. The Constitution was always designed to try and reign in a government so it could not become all powerful. The Founders are currently spinning in their graves over what the Republic they created has become. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 6:22 pm # do you think that the Constitution should be about denying people rights? Because that’s what a negative right it. The Constitution is about positive rights Ruh roh. Happywash you didn’t pay attention in Civics class did you. HOW old are you? really? Does the Constitution grant rights to the individual? or does the Constitution restrain the government from intefering with an individual’s inherent, natural rights? Look at the language of the First Amendment Congress shall make NO law. It is NEGATIVE rights. It is about what Government CANNOT do to interfer and most importantly (10th amendment) that unenumerated rights exist and are centered in The People. “Positive” rights are what the Government can/will do for you…ie entitlements, aka as having the government provide your every whim/need in exchange for your liberty. A positive right is “a right TO something” vs a negative right is “a right to be FREE FROM interference” Yikes yikes… how the hell can you even attempt to discuss issues you have no friggin clue about? Comment by geoffb on 9/12 @ 6:25 pm # Just to get some figures in. From, a wikipedia page on Presidential Approval ratings. “Highest approval rating George W. Bush holds the record, with 90% (9/21-22/2001). George H. W. Bush is second highest, with 89% (2/28/-3/3/1991). Harry S. Truman is third highest, with 87% (6/1-5/1945). John F. Kennedy is fourth highest, with 83% (3/8-13/1962) [edit] Lowest approval rating Harry S. Truman holds the record, with 22% (2/9-14/1952). Richard Nixon is second lowest, with 24% (7/12-15/1974, 8/2-5/1974). George W. Bush is third lowest, at 25% (10/3-5/2008, 10/10-12/08, 10/31-11/2/08). Jimmy Carter is fourth lowest, with 28% (6/29-7/2/79). “ So G. W. Bush did get 90% but it was 10 days later. Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 6:25 pm # happywash, you said “And Darleen, do you think that the Constitution should be about denying people rights? Because that’s what a negative right it. The Constitution is about positive rights, about what we as Americans have the freedom to do.” I don’t think you have the right view of those terms as commonly used and intended, even, and in particular, as your current President uses them. As you had directed others to inquire with Glenn Beck to obtain his view of things, so might I suggest that you repair to Ill. State Sen Obama’s remarks in a radio interview circa 2002 for his view. Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 6:26 pm # oops, sorry to have been redundant there. My bad. Refresh is my friend. Comment by Wm T Sherman on 9/12 @ 6:27 pm # I hope Obama and his family have long and happy lives, and that Obama’s agenda is completely thwarted, and that he leaves office as soon as possible. Same for the Congressional Democrat leadership, and many of the Republicans. See, Obama is just one person among many who are trying to cram socialism and government incompetence our throats by deception, demagoguery, and fiat – it’s not all about Obama. He’s just the most visible face of, and a shorthand for, the entire program. May they all have many pleasant restful days after they are no longer in a position to damage this country. Talking about things such as pitchforks and torches is just a metaphor for public uprising due to public outrage. We will not take any revenge on these people. We will in fact lose all interest in them after their power to harm us is taken away. They’ll make out like bandits afterwards. You know they will. Fine, whatever. Just go. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 6:28 pm # want to talk about your ideas. I really do. What are they? I’m not saying you don’t have them, I want to know what they are. Especially as it relates to health care. Should anything be done? Basically, my ideas revolve around people being responsible ADULTs. Do you know what that means, really? And healthcare is both a commodity and a service, like plumbing and lawyering. It is no magical thing that makes it a “right.” The problems in today’s American healthcare system (which is still the best and most innovative in the world) stem directly from government interference … from the coupling of it to employment, to banning insurance companies from competition across state lines, to a government enforced monopoly called the AMA which artificially restricts medical schools and the supply of doctors. there’s a broad outline. Get the government out of healthcare. Comment by cynn on 9/12 @ 6:29 pm # You guys finally get someone who is attempting to engage you, and you toss all the usual stink bombs. You really do prefer your own company, don’t you? Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 6:30 pm # And the meddling and arbitrary tax treatments Darleen, don’t leave that out. Social engineering they like to call it. Market distortion is more often the truth. Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 6:31 pm # It’s knee-jerkery, isn’t it cynn? Damned shame. Comment by Wm T Sherman on 9/12 @ 6:31 pm # “Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 6:10 pm # Kermit was wont to observe, it ain’t easy being green, Mr Pendragon. Mr Obama will be wont to observe, it ain’t easy being the Once.” ——————————————————————————- I like it. Obama is The One. We hope he will become The Once. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 6:31 pm # btw…back to the rights thing … by saying one has a “right” to some commodity (I have a right to a JOB, I have a right to a HOUSE, I have a right to a FLATSCREEN TV) the elephant in the room is that someone else is forced to provide that thing to you whether they want to or not. “Positive rights” is a way of legalizing theft. Socialists really have looter souls. Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 6:33 pm # I can take no credit Mr Sherman, all credit for “the Once” so far as I know, should go to PUK at JOM. I am happy, however, to spread his coinage far and wide. Join me. Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 6:34 pm # Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 6:30 pm # ———— Yep. That’s why med insurance is bonded like superglue to employment. It arose out of WWII when wages and salaries were frozen and employers had to figure out what other carrots they could offer in order to attract the best talent. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/12 @ 6:35 pm # “You guys finally get someone who is attempting to engage you…” Naw, he’s the run of the mill leftist arriving with a boatload of prejudice and preconceptions. None of which match reality. Pitiful, really. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 6:39 pm # You guys finally get someone who is attempting to engage you By telling us what we believe, providing no evidence for that assertion, and refusing to answer questions? Yeah, that’s a form of “engagment” all right. We call it “being a troll”. Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 6:41 pm # “We hope he will become The Once.” Yoda voice: “Oh he will be, he will be.” Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 6:43 pm # And to all you Vols fans, better luck next week. Oh, wait… Comment by cynn on 9/12 @ 6:46 pm # It was an impressive turnout in DC today. And quite frankly, if I could have attended the protest, I would have. There’s little to like about the current health care proposals floating around. And that’s what they’re doing, floating. Like thistles in the wind. Obama tossed this issue to Congress to hammer out legislation that would address some purportedly serious issues with health care: cost, access, and portability. But Congress dances its minuet and nothing gets done. The bailouts? Where’s the handle so Obama can turn the spigot off? Don’t blame the man, blame the administration. Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 6:51 pm # “…a way of legalizing theft. ~~Socialists~~Politicians really have a looter’s soul.” A Boudreaux post on point. Comment by happyfeet on 9/12 @ 6:52 pm # I blame the man. He’s a hoser I think. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 6:54 pm # Where’s the handle so Obama can turn the spigot off? Hint: it’s called a “veto”. Look it up. Now, explain why Obama would want to turn off the spigot? Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 6:55 pm # Let me guess: the rubber worker’s union was a big supporter of Obama. Comment by happyfeet on 9/12 @ 6:55 pm # More expensive tires mean people wait longer before getting new ones. Barack Obama flat out kills people. What a dick. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 6:57 pm # Also more money in the pocket of Big Tire. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/12 @ 6:58 pm # “More expensive tires mean people wait longer before getting new ones. Barack Obama flat out kills people. What a dick.” Well, it sure cuts down on the medical expenses. Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 7:00 pm # Steel-belted tires, so Steelworkers I guess, but yeah, you got it, Union payback (well, that and just general wrecking. I mean shit, does anybody seriously think Larry Summers or Christina Romer would recommend this idiocy?). As Boudreaux points out, Americans have the privilege of paying a 35% subsidy fee to buy their imported tires. Comment by cynn on 9/12 @ 7:01 pm # Spies: A veto? What legislation is before Obama that he can veto? Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 7:04 pm # In general terms, I think Barack Obama has the worst grasp of economics of any President in the last sixty years. It’s possible he’s worse than all of ‘em of the twentieth century, though some of those guys made frightfully bad decisions on economic matters. Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 7:05 pm # c’mon cynn, why “before Obama”, why can’t he have used his veto when the stupidity was put in front of him months ago? Comment by cynn on 9/12 @ 7:10 pm # sdferr: You may be right about his grasp of economics. But the climate changed dramatically in the course of a year, and he wasn’t prepared. His mandate, I think, was a sea change versus Bush. I considered his roots, and thought, “Here is a man from the Chicago machine, but at least he’s not part of the DC machine.” So I traded one for the other. Call it Cash for Clunkers. Badaboom. Comment by dicentra on 9/12 @ 7:11 pm # Dude has no idea what Glenn Beck is about. He’s come here to castigate us for not living up to Glenn Beck’s vision but first he misrepresents what 9/12 is all about. So it’s a strawman in the service of Alinsky’s rule about making people live up to their own rules. Nice twofer. For Beck (and most people here are not particular fans of Beck, so make that a threefer), 9/12 means that we cast off our partisanship and other extraneous things and GOT FOCUSED. We got back to basics, like freedom and liberty and freedom and the importance of fighting for it. He laments that we’ve fallen back to a 9/10 mentality where we play politics with soldiers’ lives and risk our liberty for political gain. He cites the still-empty hole at WTC as evidence. Beck’s no fan of GWB, so don’t hang this “getting behind the president” crap on us. As for you, cynn, happyslush is pretending to engage us but he’s being horribly condescending and disingenuous. We’ve seen it before. We’re not falling for it. Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 7:11 pm # Steelworkers, which Union, by the way, was the same Union G.W. Bush paid off when he instituted a steel tariff only months after taking office. If I remember right, he made a deal with ‘em in W.Va., you vote for me, I’ll tax the beejesus out of cheap imported steel piling up on the docks in Philly and Balteemore. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 7:13 pm # Spies: A veto? What legislation is before Obama that he can veto? Remember that Porkulous bill? There’s one. But he was in favor of that one, wasn’t he? Yes, yes, he was. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 7:15 pm # But the climate changed dramatically in the course of a year, and he wasn’t prepared. So now you’re admitting that the man wasn’t qualified to be president? Pingback by 9/12 Tea Party Turnout Numbers « Thomas Jefferson Club Blog on 9/12 @ 7:16 pm # [...] http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=15283 [...] Comment by cynn on 9/12 @ 7:18 pm # Spies, yes, that was a joke. But the expenditures are delineated and accountable. I refer to the $700,000,000 bailout with no preconditions, accountability, or record for that matter. Courtesy of the fleeing Bush disaster. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 7:23 pm # Obama wasn’t obligated to pay out that money, cynn. Stop blaming everything on Bush and start accepting responsibility for the simpering fucktard you and your leftoid buddies put in charge of this country. Comment by sdferr on 9/12 @ 7:24 pm # “…fleeing…” Not exactly an apt word for the end of a specified term of office. Comment by SBP on 9/12 @ 7:26 pm # #240 I will say, though, that it’s nice to see a B-list troll rather than the epsilon-minus witlings that we normally get. Comment by Blake on 9/12 @ 7:29 pm # Dicentra, Yeah about Glenn Beck and GW Bush. Most conservatives were upset at his big spending ways. I know I parted ways with GW Bush when, 1. He didn’t close our southern border, 2. Medicare expansion 3. Stimulus 1 4. Bailouts. Eyewash, I’ve never been a “support my guy, no matter what” kind of person. However, you’ve stated “you’ll always support President Obama.” Just wondering, Eyewash, would you still continue to support President Obama if he made a complete 180 and started pushing a free market/limited government agenda? Comment by cynn on 9/12 @ 7:31 pm # So somebody tell Tim “Geitner” that he doesn’t have to dish out the cash!! And spell his name right, teabaggers! Comment by Darleen on 9/12 @ 7:47 pm # And spell his name right, teabaggers! Maybe when you stop using a sexual slang term to refer to American citizens exercising their 1st Amendment rights. Comment by Pablo on 9/12 @ 7:56 pm # Spies, yes, that was a joke. But the expenditures are delineated and accountable. I refer to the $700,000,000 bailout with no preconditions, accountability, or record for that matter. Courtesy of the fleeing Bush disaster. Bush only spent half that, and Obama voted for it. Then spent the other half. Bush doing it sucks, but Obama owns every bit of it now. Comment by SDN on 9/12 @ 7:58 pm # cynn, refresh my memory? Which party was in control of Congress, both houses? since 2006? You know, where all revenue bills must come from? Comment by baxtrice on 9/12 @ 8:24 pm # Gawd, I’m so tired of the ‘teabagger’ joke. Get a new joke writer lefties. Comment by JeffS on 9/12 @ 9:14 pm # #250, cynn: So somebody tell Tim “Geitner” that he doesn’t have to dish out the cash!! He works for President Obama. Who told him to spend it. That’s the second half of why Obama owns TARP’s $700 billion, the first half being Obama voted for it while he was still a Senator. That’s what “personal responsibility” is all about. Try it sometime. Comment by Pablo on 9/12 @ 9:20 pm # Comment by baxtrice on 9/12 @ 8:24 pm # Gawd, I’m so tired of the ‘teabagger’ joke. Get a new joke writer lefties. I suspect that it pisses Middle America off, and I hope they keep it up. Comment by Spiny Norman on 9/12 @ 9:29 pm # #254 baxtrice Gawd, I’m so tired of the ‘teabagger’ joke. Get a new joke writer lefties. Unfortunately, we’re dealing with the arrested-development crowd. That sort of adolescent humor is as sophisticated as they get. Comment by guinsPen on 9/12 @ 10:26 pm # SBP, you ignore the posts where I say that I believe you. I know you think for yourself. Now can you say the same about me? Because if you can’t I must use your post against you. Because I am not mystified. Well, I sure am. Comment by guinsPen on 9/12 @ 10:31 pm # I’m also disgusted to be called misguided. Comment by TmjUtah on 9/12 @ 10:49 pm # Smoot-Hawley. Remember, boys and girls, it’s not about holding office. It’s about breaking the system. It’s about writing mountains of regulation and spending untold trillions of dollars and hiring government drones that will never be fired as long as there are government employee unions. It’s about corrupting elections and destroying the confidence of the citizenry in the rule of law, in representative government, and in the equal application of justice. There is NOTHING in the constitutional execution of office that Bark Obama, or his minions, is interested in. Freedom to fly or fall for each and every man and woman is the problem, and they see themselves as arriving at this time in history as the solution. They’ll do it right this time. Not like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot… They are the enemy, and they are inside the walls. Comment by lee on 9/13 @ 3:22 am # TMJUtah, i think you give our overlords too much credit. You do get their environmental streak, right? They envision a Utopia of 1/4 of a billion people in the world, themselves at the top of the food chain ofcourse… The “end of life counciling” isn’t really as innocent as you are lead to beleive. Comment by JBean on 9/13 @ 3:24 am # They are the enemy, and they are inside the walls. And that was Beck’s point. On 9/12/01, we had dedicated, trained men and women, and a mighty arsenal of weapons, to fight the enemy without. On 9/12/09, we can only rely on ourselves to fight the enemy within. Freedom is under attack, and freedom must be defended. Here’s a fairly objective report on the protest, for all those who think it was a bunch of slobbering Bush fans: Quick Impressions of the D.C. 9/12 Protest Pingback by J’s Cafe Nette » A Sea Of Humanity Descends On Washington on 9/13 @ 5:27 am # [...] Pictures and a few videos I’ve not seen elsewhere are offered at Protein Wisdom. [...] Comment by Carin on 9/13 @ 6:21 am # I considered his roots, and thought, “Here is a man from the Chicago machine, but at least he’s not part of the DC machine.” So I traded one for the other The danger of that gamble, Cynn, is that at least a Washington insider would have had to face the scrutiny of the press. I think just about everyone can now admit that the vast majority of the media has very little interest in doing their job in regards to Obama. He was their guy, and they’re prolly going to hang-on until the bitter end. Pingback by Phenomenal Success for 9-12 Tax Protests « POWIP on 9/13 @ 6:36 am # [...] Darleen’s got an excellent post on the march up at PW. [...] Comment by The Monster on 9/13 @ 11:34 am # There used to be an axiom about dissatisfied customers, in that one upset customer would tell 7 others, if I remember correctly.There used to be an axiom about dissatisfied customers, in that one upset customer would tell 7 others, if I remember correctly. I grew up working in the family grocery store. Dad taught me that the customer who complains to you is doing you a favor, because she’s giving you a chance to make things right. Far too many people are mad enough to shop somewhere else next time (even if it means driving across the river to the next town, or 20 miles to Emporia, where they actually have Wal-Marts and such) but will never tell you. If 2 million people are mad enough to drive/fly to DC and gather on the Mall, and God knows how many others in places like Quincy, IL, then there are probably 100x that many who are mad enough to vote the bastards out. If I were in Congress, regardless of my party affiliation, I’d be very worried right now. Pingback by ‘Hundreds of thousands’ [Darleen Click] on 9/13 @ 11:47 am # [...] at half mast — an image similiar to one that Michelle Malkin had up via a traffic cam (I took my own screenshot) that had hysterical Leftcultists accusing Malkin of [...] Comment by Old Conservative on 9/13 @ 5:07 pm # Someone said racist, the march was = to the KKK. You should be ashamed. This event had nothing to do with race and liberals use that because its the only defense they have. Actually, you should be embarrassed that you even said such a thing. Because so many disagree with you we are racist? Disgusting. Strange how that changes when its you doing it conservatives. Comment by maggie katzen on 9/14 @ 1:40 am # so late to this, but… Why do you rubes always vote against your own interests? this confuses me. are we selfish for not wanting to pay more taxes and “provide” more government care or not selfish cause we don’t vote for stuff for ourselves? Pingback by Striderweb » Blog Archive » Misunderestimated on 9/14 @ 9:30 am # [...] Conservative estimates have the numbers at 230,000, while on the high end estimates are that half a million people showed up to protest government spending. Details here: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=15283. [...] Pingback by Instapundit » Blog Archive » NICK GILLESPIE: Argue about Saturday’s numbers all you want, but “the crowd was truly huge.” “Firs… on 9/14 @ 10:40 am # [...] these pictures show an awful lot of [...] Comment by sm on 9/14 @ 7:24 pm # it seems like there is nothing more you ignorant hillbillies truly need to protect but your right to marry your second cousin and your right to keep your shotgun oiled in case someone tries to steal the broken refrigerator of your front porch. i tried not to use any big words so you could follow along. and by the way – the country was taken away long before that one got in office. but don’t stop. this is far too amusing to watch. Comment by JQT on 9/14 @ 8:38 pm # “ignorant hillbillies” “rednecks” “white trash” Are any of the above terms racist? Of course not. Comment by SBP on 9/14 @ 8:41 pm # Funny how we “ignorant hillbillies” don’t seem to have a problem with capitalization, spelling, punctuation, and grammar, innit? Maybe some day we can aspire to the zenith of prose style, as exemplified by “sm” (Stupid Motherfucker? Shithead Masturbator? Inquiring minds want to know!). Comment by JQT on 9/14 @ 8:50 pm # Let me guess: the rubber worker’s union was a big supporter of Obama. he could just be helping them out in their strike. http://www2.godanriver.com/gdr/news/local/article/united_steelworkers_in_danville_reject_agreement_with_goodyear/13798/ Pingback by There Are Tea Parties And Then There Are Tea Parties « Vogue Republic on 9/14 @ 10:52 pm # [...] That said, looking at a picture of the 9/12 tea party protest in Washington, I find the New York Times’ description to be underwhelming. (h/t protein wisdom) [...] Comment by Joe Bloggs on 9/15 @ 12:02 am # Liberal: a conservative who was once arrested. Comments? Comment by Rusty on 9/15 @ 5:02 am # #277 You got that backwards. #273 No. They’re desperate ramblings of a tiny mind.Limitted intelligence demands easy answers. Pingback by False Charges Of Racism « The Underground Conservative on 9/15 @ 1:14 pm # [...] weekend in the comments thread of an anti-9/12 tea party protest. Here’s the cheap shot via Protein Wisdom. Johnson calls RSM a “white supremacist blogger.” In other words, a [...] Comment by sk on 9/16 @ 9:34 am # It IS about anti-white racism!Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.” “The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.” “Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.” “What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?” “How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?” “And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?” “But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.” “They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.” “Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.” Pingback by Oh, The Fights We Have Had On The Right Side Of The Sphere « Around The Sphere on 9/17 @ 10:08 am # [...] Vodka Pundit: Over at LGF (no link, sorry) Charles Johnson notes that I’m taking phone calls from “white supremacist” Stacy McCain. (Thanks, Darlene.) [...] RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URI: http://proteinwisdom.com/wp-trackback.php?p=15283 Leave a comment If you want to leave a feedback to this post or to some other user´s comment, simply fill out the form below. 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