Yes, Congress is not the British Parliment and Joe Wilson’s emotions and frustration got the best of him, but the pearl clutching and vapors by the Democrats who have made a vibrant industry of calling Republicans and conservatives liars, Nazi and worse is a hoot. And how short the memory (via William Jacobson)
TED KOPPEL (ABC host): When the president talked about the bankruptcy of Social Security, there were clearly some Democrats on the floor who thought that that was taking it too far. And they did something that, apparently, no one at this table has ever heard before. They booed. [ABC, Nightline, 2/2/05; Koppel's panel consisted of former Bush adviser Mary Matalin, former Reagan chief of staff Ken Duberstein, and former Clinton speechwriter Michael Waldman]JOHN ROBERTS (CBS White House correspondent): At a couple points in this address, it looked more like the British Parliament than the United States Congress. I’ve never heard the minority party shout at the president during the State of the Union address. [CBS, post-speech coverage, 2/2/05]
JOE SCARBOROUGH (former U.S. representative (R-FL) and MSNBC host): After the Democrats booed and hissed, Republicans were on the floor saying, you know, we never once did that to Clinton. So every time he would talk about Social Security, the roars got a little louder. And they got behind their president. [MSNBC, Hardball, 2/2/05]
BOB BARR (former U.S. representative (R-GA) and CNN contributor): It will be a very, very difficult battle as we saw by the unprecedented and, I think, highly improper virtual booing of the president when he simply said that the system is going to be bankrupt and the time is now to fix it. [CNN, Inside Politics, 2/3/05]
JOE WATKINS (radio host and CNN substitute host): Did you hear it? Certainly not the polite protocol usually practiced when a president speaks to Congress. If a Democrat one day delivers a State of the Union address, I hope the Republicans won’t lower themselves to such a disrespectful level. I hope last night’s behavior by a few lawmakers doesn’t set a new precedent, that both parties can agree to remain civil, even when voicing disagreements.[...] PAUL BEGALA (CNN host): Let me correct your history — 1993, I was with President Bill Clinton in that House chamber when he addressed a joint session of Congress. And Republicans heckled him when he cited Congressional Budget Office statistics about the deficit. [CNN, Crossfire, 2/3/05]
JOHN GIBSON (FOX News host): Maryanne Marsh, what did you think of those audible jeers, boos, for the president? It sounded a little like the House of Commons: that grumbling that comes from the back-benchers when they don’t like something [British Prime Minister] Tony Blair said. That isn’t very common for state of the union speeches, is it?MARYANNE MARSH (Democratic strategist): I don’t ever remember hearing it, and was very surprised. But I have to say at least the good news is the Democrats are fighting and they’re on offense. And they’re more united than they’ve ever been against George Bush and the Republicans. [FOX News, The Big Story with John Gibson, 2/3/05]
Wilson understandably voiced his frustration with Obama duplicity
Technically, Obama was correct that his plan does not cover illegal aliens because Obama has no plan that has been released, only concepts. So if Obama says his plan doesn’t cover illegals, then by definition it does not cover illegals — at least until we see the language in his plan. Similarly, the Senate HELP Committee bill defines an “eligible individual” in numerous places throughout the bill to include only citizens and legal residents (including for the public option, at page 111 of the bill).So using the two measures, the non-existent Obama bill and the draft Senate HELP Committee bill which was not a full Senate proposal, Obama was correct.
But if the standard is the full House Bill, HR3200, then it appears that Obama was incorrect. There is nothing in HR3200 that excludes illegal aliens from the various coverage provisions (with a few limited exceptions). The Congressional Research Service agrees with this assessment
And the rest of this rehashed, regurgitated summer stump speech was all sizzle, no steak
Obama did not seem to be advancing a very detailed plan, but rather championing some vague generalities. And when you line these generalities up, they form a very peculiar and implausible picture. It will cost $900 billion, involve no tax increases for the middle class and no Medicare benefit cuts for the elderly, but not add a dime to the deficit. The basic prerequisites for risk-based insurance will be rendered illegal, but the public is assured that insurance arrangements need not change-or rather that they will only improve.To try to sneak these glaring contradictions past his listeners, the president engaged in some familiar misdirection. He said the government would not force people to lose their existing insurance. But the question of displacement is not about force: employers currently provide insurance not because they are forced to do so (they are not) but because a combination of policy and labor market pressures lead them to choose to do so. Change those pressures and coverage arrangements will change for millions.
He insisted that “no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions,” but those dollars would be used to fund insurance that would pay for abortion, and new rules would require more insurers to pay for it. He insisted the public plan would not be subsidized by the public (though he then compared it to public universities, which are subsidized by the public). But the problem with that plan is that it would have regulatory advantages and negotiating power that would allow it to price private insurers out of the market, not that it would be directly subsidized in ways its competitors were not.
To pass off this misdirection (not to say dishonesty), he accused his opponents of dishonesty. There won’t actually literally be panels of people deciding that elderly patients should die, he said. That’s a relief. To argue that cutting hundreds of billions of dollars from Medicare will in any way reduce benefits is just plain lying, he insisted. [...]
Obama concluded with a painfully inappropriate abuse of the memory of the late Senator Ted Kennedy-calling by name on several Republican friends of Kennedy’s, as if to shame them into voting for a bill they do not support because failing to do so would be a failure of friendship. Is this how a president behaves? Using the memory of the recently deceased as a club with which to pound upon the man’s friends?
That’s how this president behaves. Never let a crisis or a corpse go to waste.
Comment by Joe on 9/10 @ 7:58 am #
But Wilson is right, Obama does lie.
Comment by royf on 9/10 @ 8:00 am #
President Bush was right as well Social Security is going broke, but that didn’t stop the Dems.
Comment by Joe on 9/10 @ 8:02 am #
A fourteen point bounce from that speech? Call me skeptical. I look to Gereghty and others checking that polling data.
Comment by SBP on 9/10 @ 8:06 am #
Joe: The sample of speech-watchers in this poll was 45 percent Democratic and 18 percent Republican.
Comment by McGehee on 9/10 @ 8:07 am #
That’s the Chicago way.
</Sean Connery voice>
Comment by Squid on 9/10 @ 8:10 am #
Why wait for Geraghty? The article itself states that it was a poll of people who watched the speech, not registered voters. The end of the linked article states:
The sample of speech-watchers in this poll was 45 percent Democratic and 18 percent Republican. Our best estimate of the number of Democrats in the voting age population as a whole indicates that the sample is about 8-10 points more Democratic than the population as a whole.
So yeah, color me not-real-surprised. If one considers the unclassified 37% of the audience to break down along similar lines as those who professed a party affiliation, we can expect that two-thirds of them were probably favorably disposed to begin with. A 14% bounce is hardly surprising when the audience consists mostly of supporters and people sitting on the fence waiting to be reassured.
Cliff’s Notes version: The information gained from CNN’s viewers is almost as valuable as that garners from their on-air “talent”.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 8:16 am #
Niiice, Sarah Palin stikes back:
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=131081638434
Comment by JeffS on 9/10 @ 8:33 am #
Nice indeed, O’Brain. IMHO, here’s the money quote from Sarah Palin:
Remember, Mr. President, elected officials work for the people. Forcing a conclusion in order to claim a “victory” is not healthy for our country. We hear you say government isn’t always the answer; now hear us — that’s what we’ve been saying all along.
Comment by TheGeezer on 9/10 @ 8:36 am #
This was bounce mostly from supporters of Obama. If you bounce +14% among supporters, what does that really mean about your political prospects?
CNN is goofing again. They still think that network can effect stuff. Heh.
Comment by cranky-d on 9/10 @ 8:45 am #
The only reason I even listened to the speech was that I was on Ace’s live blog of the event. Otherwise I would have had the teevee off, and wouldn’t have ended up listening to all the lies and misdirections that came out of our president’s mouth. It was unbelievable. He has no shame. The fact that he talked about small government at the end was… I don’t have the words.
Any bounce he gets from this will be short-lived at best.
Comment by Joe on 9/10 @ 8:47 am #
Thanks, I did not have a chance to check the poll parameters, just saw CNN saying breathlessly this morning that support for Obamacare went up 14%. Shameful, but expected.
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 8:48 am #
cranky-d – Given the trolls since, it is pretty clear who his target audience was.
Comment by Joe on 9/10 @ 8:56 am #
Confederate Yankee is correct in this:
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 8:57 am #
JOM denizens have taken to calling Obama “the Once” (after PUK’s coinage, I think). Would an Obamite even recognize the humor therein or just look at you with utter puzzlement (huh, wha?)?
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 9:00 am #
Just btw in the same article, this:
who talks like that? No one. No one talks like that.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 9:07 am #
ok now i’m just confuzzled
Little pezzydent man needs to pick a lie and stick to it I think.
Comment by dicentra on 9/10 @ 9:26 am #
#13 — Exactly. If I’d been there, I’d have been yelling “LIE!” after each independent clause, each dependent clause, and after “and” and “the.”
I’m just surprised that there was only one outburst. There should have been a volley.
Comment by dicentra on 9/10 @ 9:29 am #
In other news, ACORN blatantly enables human sex trafficking.
This one is worth watching if only for the brazenness and their obvious familiarity with skirting the law.
Comment by Snowcone on 9/10 @ 9:54 am #
Ronald Reagan’s manners were always impeccable.
Comment by RIP Ford on 9/10 @ 9:57 am #
“Ronald Reagan’s manners were always impeccable.”
Anyone know what the fuck-all this has to do with anything?
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 10:00 am #
Blowcone – STFU. Quit embarassing yourself. It is really rather sad.
I thought the overt lie about the insurance company killing Raddatz was sweet.
Comment by J. "Trashman" Peden on 9/10 @ 10:01 am #
Well, just to give a progg-troll and the Professorial One their due, Obama did in fact demonstrate exactly that the elite are the elite based upon absolutely nothing having to do with intelligence – unless you consider either abject stupidity or practiced but still poor lieing to be sufficient signs for “intelligence”.
Comment by SDN on 9/10 @ 10:08 am #
And Reagan was 30 years ago, before Copperheads got re-organized in the 90’s.
Comment by Snowcone on 9/10 @ 10:10 am #
Anyone know what the fuck-all this has to do with anything?
Allowing an uncouth hick speak for the American Right is not the way for them to stage a comeback.
Comment by Pablo on 9/10 @ 10:15 am #
There’s nothing uncouth about calling a spade a spade, snotcone.
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 10:15 am #
Snowstorm is just picking up where the axeltrollz left off. Rather pathetic.
Comment by geoffb on 9/10 @ 10:16 am #
It could be that with the economic downturn that illegals are returning to their home countries pushing down the number while Americans losing their jobs pushes it up. Also though I was laid off this summer I paid my Cobra thus continuing my coverage through the layoff. Others may be doing so also.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 10:16 am #
Too bad, O!bama’s aren’t. I agree. Obama is no Reagan. But then again, Reagan was no Jefferson. So, that is what’s been happening to the Republic. Shit.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 10:19 am #
And hick? The little pussy (snotcone, that’s you btw) wouldn’t say that to anyone’s face in a million years. It’s obvious, it’s stupid. I guess the being exceptionally weak was a foregone conclusion.
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 10:19 am #
A spade? Are you fucking kidding me? A spade?! How fucking racist can you rightwingNazis be?!
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 10:21 am #
Snotnose and Dvaid are amusing.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 9/10 @ 10:34 am #
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 10:21 am #
Snotnose and Dvaid are amusing.
For pinatas.
Comment by Pablo on 9/10 @ 10:43 am #
OT: Glenn Beck strikes again.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 10:44 am #
Snowcone IS The Pinata of Stoopid.
Comment by dicentra on 9/10 @ 10:51 am #
Winning Tweet (Treacher, natch):
@JTlol: Which is more disrespectful, lying to the world for an hour or pointing it out for one second?
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 10:55 am #
oh – they changed that little dollop of propaganda I quoted before from…
to
Comment by Salt Lick on 9/10 @ 10:59 am #
Snowcone is here to suggest we play by rules which he has no intention of keeping himself. Joe Wilson is a patriot and a hero.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 11:13 am #
Someone should throw a barbecue for Joe Wilson and make peach cobbler and book a band and celebrate his courage I think. He told little president man to stop dishonoring the Office of the President of the United States with his douchebag Chicago street trash lies. That’s way way way more consequential than anything me or Keith Olbermann or Meghan’s coward daddy will have done all year I think.
Comment by Snowcone on 9/10 @ 11:19 am #
Joe Wilson is a patriot and a hero.
I suppose that’s true if your goal is to turn the Republican party into a small, regional party.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 11:21 am #
No snowcone, it is a true statement regardless of anyone’s aim or aspiration. It can stand on its own without any other support. Why is it you have such trouble with simple distinctions again?
Comment by alppuccino on 9/10 @ 11:23 am #
I suppose that’s true if your goal is to turn the Republican party into a small, regional party.
Like your brain is a small regional organ?
Your sweaty fear of Republicans is palpable Mr. Cone. But the group that is growing the fastest is the the one that is made up of people who when asked, “What do you think of Obama so far?” answer, “he’s a liar.”
Comment by royf on 9/10 @ 11:34 am #
I still find it amusing that the concern trolls are worrying about the Republican Party LOL! You know snowcone I have never in my long life belonged to a political party, I am a American first and foremost and believe this is the greatest country in the world. That also explains why I would never vote for the progressive/marxist democrats, as a matter of fact I will give money and time to ANY party or person which takes them on directly. As well as doing anything in my power to defeat their tyranny. They hate American values which puts them in direct conflict with me.
Comment by geoffb on 9/10 @ 11:41 am #
One problem for the media and the left is, to paraphrase Margaret Thatcher. The trouble with polls is eventually you run out of enough Democrats.
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 11:52 am #
You know, what’s really awesome, is that this sort of behavior drives moderates left. All you have to do is let the Republicans be themselves, and we’ll have a public option by Easter. And if any of you don’t like it, why don’t you move to Afghanistan? America: Love it or Leave it!
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 11:55 am #
No. Moderates aren’t all yay let’s flock to support the dirty socialist Chicago street trash liar. That just isn’t how the real world works.
Comment by Snowcone on 9/10 @ 11:55 am #
Why is it you have such trouble with simple distinctions again?
Joe Wilson has already apologized to President Obama for his boorishness. That the American Right feels compelled to continue to defend something even Joe Wilson himself is embarrassed by speaks volumes.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 11:56 am #
More Joe Wilsons and less Meghan’s coward daddies and our little country will be back on track in short order I think.
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 11:57 am #
I see dickliKKKer and whatever other names it hid behind is back. Fucking lying coward, it is. Small wonder it has a mouthful of Teh One.
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 11:59 am #
“street trash”. Nice. Is that the latest code word for black person? Keep it up, happyfeet! We’ll welcome all the intellectual conservatives driven from the GOP by racism like yours.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 11:59 am #
Of course, due to the demonstrated fact of snowcone being about the dumbest mother fucker I have ever witnessed here at PW, all the folks at Cato, Reason, Lew Rockwell, and other libertraian outlets are all “republicans”, too, now?
Well put, by royf. I am guessing snowcone was the last one picked (if picked at all) for any type of athletic/sporting events in his younger days, so now he treats politics, or more to the point political parties (just the majors mind you) as his proxy for athletics. He doesn’t understand that if you “despise” the one, you don’t necessarily “love” the other. But, he thinks now, that his “team” has the power, he too, has it, all the while never realizing that he’s nothing more than a half witted pawn being used as cannon fodder for teh won.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 12:00 pm #
ruh roh. The aptly named bendover thinks that all black people are “street trash”. Why do these racists project so much?
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 12:01 pm #
BenDover is just begging for Teh One to give him and assfucking. Begging. Codewords. Racist. Stupid. STFU. It encapsulates all of the standard Leftist response in an elegantly concise manner.
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 12:02 pm #
JD! Nice talk, sugarmouth! Do you kiss your mother with that dirty, filthy hole of yours? Why don’t you take an example from your President, and disagree without being disagreeable?
Comment by LTC John on 9/10 @ 12:03 pm #
I am sure snoball spent most of 2005 appologizing for the Democrats response to the 2005 SOTU and this past year for their behavior at the Innaguration…
Ben, I already have done a year in AF – how about you?
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 12:03 pm #
You can change the subject yet you still cannot explain your inability to make simple distinctions, snowcone? Odd that, though perhaps derivable from the fact of the inability itself.
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 12:06 pm #
“derivable from the fact of the inability itself” OMG! This is my new favorite blog!
Comment by Carin on 9/10 @ 12:07 pm #
You know, what’s really awesome, is that this sort of behavior drives moderates left
Bahaa haa haa … sure it does, ben. @@
To make your little concern-troll schtick more complete, you need to add a bit about Redumblicans wandering in the desert for 40 years. That one is so cute.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 12:08 pm #
You new favorite blog? Well good then, ben, why don’t you use the extensive archive in the sidebar and see if you can’t learn something about the blog while you are here?
Comment by royf on 9/10 @ 12:10 pm #
Well Ben Bentover if your messiah’s strategy is so great go for the whole banana and pass the government run healthcare option, you don’t need ANY Republican support. Just pass it and watch those moderates and independents flock to your party.
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 12:11 pm #
This is the same troll from last night. Darleen already pointed out its multiple aliases. It is a lying coward with a big wad of Barcky love juice dripping from the corner of its mouth.
Comment by Carin on 9/10 @ 12:14 pm #
ben, we have a minimum IQ requirement for our trolls. Concern trolls are immediately suspect of failing to meet the standard.
Perhaps you should take your arguments up a notch, ifyouknowwhatImeanandIthinkthatyoudo.
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 12:18 pm #
How do you enforce the IQ standards? Is there some sort of test? Oh, I do want to fit in. If you could give me a glossary of all the racist code words and ad hominem vitriol [I particularly enjoy "Barcky love juice" :)] I’ll do my best! ;)
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 12:19 pm #
Zomg Mr. Snowcone you have no idea how heartily I would debase myself to deliver my little country unto a black person any black person at all what wasn’t a dirty socialist piece of Chicago street trash. I dream and dream of a black knight what will ride to the rescue of my little country and halt its descent into a morass of dirty socialist squalor but then I wake up and despair anew.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 12:20 pm #
oh. Sorry I meant Mr. Dover not Mr. Snowcone I gotted confuzzled.
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 12:21 pm #
“black knight”. OK, got it. Are there any more?
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 12:27 pm #
I’m curious. Why do you keep calling the President of the United States “Chicago street trash”? You know he’s from Hawai’i, right? Na Kanaka Maoli have actually adopted him so he is, in fact, a Native Hawaiian. Could you please use Hawaiian racial epithets when referring to him? That would be awesome, thanks. Here, I’ll start you off. Boy, how about that Dirty Kanaka, Obama, huh?
Comment by Carin on 9/10 @ 12:28 pm #
Well, it’s certainly an unofficial enforcement. Failing to meet the standard will result in 1)Trollhammer (ignore feature) and 2) people just making fun of you.
Do you have any technical knowledge of how a “balloon fence” might work?
Comment by Carin on 9/10 @ 12:29 pm #
He may have lived in Hawaii, but he definitely cut his political chops in Chicago.
Honestly, such a question doesn’t really bode well for you. This stuff shouldn’t need to be explained.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 12:30 pm #
Could someone call We B Trolls and complain about their last delivery?
Two brain-dead reactionary leftist talking point spewers are two too many.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 12:30 pm #
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 12:27 pm #
See?
Total moron.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 12:31 pm #
Your obsession with race is an interesting artifact there, Mr Dover. Where did you come by it? Was the teaching required to acquire the obsession long and arduous or was it brief and relatively easy to grasp?
Comment by Snowcone on 9/10 @ 12:33 pm #
you have no idea how heartily I would debase myself
Happy, I don’t know about debasing, but the American Right defending the childish public behavior of one of its members is a recurring theme, isn’t it?
Seems like you guys find this shtick to be an adequate substitute for getting to govern.
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 12:33 pm #
Not sure how a “balloon fence” works, but I probably won’t run out of proxies :) Besides, don’t you guys like free and open discourse? Am I not being vulgar and insulting enough? OK, I’ll try harder. YOU GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF POOHEADS! THHHPPPTTTTTTT!!!!
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 12:34 pm #
Bent Over is no way to go through life.
RACISTS !!!!
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 12:34 pm #
“Comment by Snowcone on 9/10 @ 12:33 pm #
you have no idea how heartily I would debase myself
Happy, I don’t know about debasing, but the American Right defending the childish public behavior of one of its members is a recurring theme, isn’t it?”
Well , you keep defending Barack, don’t you?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 12:35 pm #
bend, you do realize, do you not, that slavery was a specifically an institution of the Democratic Party?
Comment by Carin on 9/10 @ 12:36 pm #
Snowcone, the fact is that I am not, was not, will never be bothered by what Joe Wilson did last night. It is no different than those other instances, listed above.
We live in free society. Respect, even for the President, must be earned. After a few months of giving him the benefit of the doubt, some have come to the conclusion that he will say patently false things. Repeatedly.
I can respect the “office” w/o respecting the man.
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 12:39 pm #
Here is a simple primer, Bent Over. Quit sock-puppeting. Quit sying. Things seem to work out better for people that do not engage in those cowardly dishonest tactics. It is reall rather simple.
Snowstorm likes being lied to by Teh One.
Comment by Carin on 9/10 @ 12:39 pm #
I find it amazing that legions are willing to HUNT down his children because Joe Wilson “disrespected” Obama.
What a fucking joke.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 12:40 pm #
bend, you do realize, do you not, that Jim Crow laws were instituted by Democrats?
Comment by royf on 9/10 @ 12:44 pm #
Hey I didn’t even know who (this) Joe Wilson was until last night but I sent him a little money this morning, I wouldn’t say I’m so much defending him as I am saying I agree with his statement completely. Barack Obama is a liar and he should be called out on it.
Funny thing is the media is full of reports about how much money his opponent is bring in, But his office said this morning that contributions have been pouring in for Mr Wilson since last night.
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 12:47 pm #
Nah, the Dixiecrats would probably be considered moderate Republicans today. Just like the Christians of today would be unrecognizable to Christians in Jesus’ time. Sad :(
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 12:49 pm #
RACISTS !!!!!!!!!!
Comment by royf on 9/10 @ 12:52 pm #
The lefty freak show just never learn any lessons. They took on Rush and sent his listener ratings through the roof, they took on Glenn Beck and he currently has the highest rated show, and is doing a great job exposing the Obama Cabal which has led to the resignation of Van Jones. But it could very well lead to even more damage to the dem/fascists. I read that the money that Joe Wilson is bring in has caused more than one Republican to wish they had called Obama what he is a liar.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 12:55 pm #
Mr Dover, again I ask, where came you by your nifty race obsession? Did it cost a fee of some sort, small or large, or was it a freebee give-away enticement toward another product for sale?
Comment by royf on 9/10 @ 12:55 pm #
Well Ben Bentover there is proof that what you say is not correct that would be Robert Byrd and he is not a Republican, In addition to the fact that the Republicans platform was and always has been anti slavery.
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 12:56 pm #
Wouldn’t far-left Dems be considered “commies” rather than “fascists”? Dirty Commies! (Fittin’ in, Boss!)
Comment by Eben on 9/10 @ 12:59 pm #
3/10 for trolling; lacks originality and obvious troll is obvious
Comment by royf on 9/10 @ 12:59 pm #
Wouldn’t far-left Dems be considered “commies” rather than “fascists”
That is a very small distinction but since the left is so far taking over only selected portions of the economy I think fascism is the correct word.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 1:02 pm #
Is your race obsesson like a charm bracelet Mr Dover, the sort to which one can add one race/charm after another serially or in bunches as one discovers them or the fancy strikes? Is it an object of admiration among your peers? Do they vie with you to collect their own latest race/bauble to dangle and discuss while on the beach or while attending a game?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 1:02 pm #
bend, you do realize, do you not, it was Democrats like Lester Maddox, Orval Faubus and George Wallace — governors of Georgia, Arkansas and Alabama — “who blocked the schoolhouse doors”
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 1:04 pm #
“Wouldn’t far-left Dems be considered “commies” rather than “fascists””
Tweedledee, tweedledum, they’re both reactionary leftists, not much of a difference.
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 1:04 pm #
No, I meant ideologically, the Dixiecrats were a lot closer to the Republican party of today. Classist, elitest, concern only for the wealthy, that sort of thing.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 1:05 pm #
“Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 1:04 pm #
No, I meant ideologically, the Dixiecrats were a lot closer to the Republican party of today.”
No they weren’t.
Try learning some history.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 1:06 pm #
“Classist, elitest, concern only for the wealthy, that sort of thing.”
Wow, talk about projection.
George Soros ain’t paying you nearly enough.
That here is some comedy gold.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 1:08 pm #
‘That there’
PIMF
Comment by Snowcone on 9/10 @ 1:11 pm #
They took on Rush and sent his listener ratings through the roof, they took on Glenn Beck and…
Ah yes, remember that Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Levin and Co. had so much power that they got to hand pick their Champion of the Right, Mitt Romney, as the Republican nominee?
Me neither.
Comment by royf on 9/10 @ 1:14 pm #
Snowcone you ignorant slut Rush never endorsed anyone but it was the open primaries which got McCain the nomination.
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 1:15 pm #
From the University of North Carolina Press:
“In 1948, a group of conservative white southerners formed the States’ Rights Democratic Party, soon nicknamed the “Dixiecrats…the Dixiecrats aimed to reclaim conservatives’ former preeminent position within the national Democratic Party”
Done learnt me some history! Thanks, O’Brain! See, that’s called “citing a fact” rather than the Republican method of “pulling a fact from your ass”. You guys can learn more about your proud conservative heritage at:
http://uncpress.unc.edu/browse/book_detail?title_id=748
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 1:18 pm #
Still no testimonial as to the source of your race fixation Mr Dover? How come? Are you wanting to keep it a secret known only to yourself? Surely sharing it with others won’t cause it to be taken from you will it?
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 1:22 pm #
I’m sorry sdferr, I don’t understand. To what racial fixation do you refer?
Oops. That was too civil, I know. Sorry, I’m still learning the local culture.
Nuts to you sdferr! You big poopyhead! What are you trying to say!
Was that ok? :)
Comment by Blake on 9/10 @ 1:24 pm #
Ben_stupid,
What part of “conservatives’ former preeminent position within the “NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY” don’t you understand?”
These so-called Dixiecrats were part of the Democratic Party. They were, in no shape or form, attached to the Republican party.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 1:25 pm #
This one, for starters Mr Dover (though I suspect you already knew that and are now play-acting at being obtuse):
Comment by Blake on 9/10 @ 1:26 pm #
Oops, my bad, not part of the Democrat party, tried to reclaim power within the party.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 1:28 pm #
Followed next by this one Mr Dover:
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 1:32 pm #
Grand Kleagle Byrd (Dem-KKK) thinks that you are a mendoucheous twatwaffle, sockpuppet, and a cowardly liar, Mr. Ben.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 1:32 pm #
So again, where did you come by it, this race thing of yours? Was it pressed upon you from outside yourself? Or were you born with it, whole and ready to go, instead? Did you take to it like a duck takes to water or was it more like the kid who can’t carry a tune to save his life forced to sing Italian Madrigals in mandatory choir class at school?
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 1:34 pm #
Blake, I said “ideologically, the Dixiecrats were a lot closer to the Republican party of today.”
I didn’t say that they were “attached” to the Republican party. You’re engaging in a logical fallacy commonly called a “Straw Man” defense, or more accurately, disambiguation. Fortunately, I’ve taken Logic 101 and am impervious to your fallacy. Linear reasoning is like Kryptonite to sloppy thinking! :)
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 1:34 pm #
And you’re a lying twatwaffle.
Comment by Snowcone on 9/10 @ 1:34 pm #
Snowcone you ignorant slut Rush never endorsed anyone but it was the open primaries which got McCain the nomination.
“RUSH: I think now, based on the way the campaign has shaken out, that there probably is a candidate on our side who does embody all three legs of the conservative stool, and that’s Romney.”
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/05/rush-limbaugh-endorses-mitt-romney/
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 1:35 pm #
#Comment by Snowcone on 9/10 @ 1:34 pm #
You’re a moron, he didn’t endorse him.
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 1:36 pm #
sdferr – I liked yours from last night, and I will borrow from same …
Dear Mr. Bent Over,
Get bent.
Sincerely,
JD
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 1:37 pm #
Most dirty socialists are white peoples anyway… it’s not like Barack Obama is the quintessential black person he’s actually an ideological outlier really. He’s way more in step with white dirty socialists than American people what are black.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 9/10 @ 1:38 pm #
Charlie Cool report downgrades Reid’s race as toss up from Likely Dem. Ouch.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 9/10 @ 1:39 pm #
make that Cook report, but it is also cool.
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 1:42 pm #
It’s actually a new obsession of mine, sdferr. I contracted it from this blog. Honestly, calling the President of the United States “Chicago street trash”? Am I the only patriotic American on this site?
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 1:42 pm #
I wonder what name Mrs. Dover will pick next.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 1:44 pm #
That should be dirty socialist Chicago street trash I think, shouldn’t it?
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 1:44 pm #
Snowcone! You’re citing a fact! I don’t think that’s allowed on this site. :)
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 1:45 pm #
What is unpatriotic about that?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 1:45 pm #
“Am I the only patriotic American on this site?”
You’re a reactionary leftist.
You hate America.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 1:45 pm #
You contracted it from this blog? That is interesting then. Could you point to the source and say something about how it resulted in your porting “…code word for black person” into your query to happyfeet then? And something further about where your knowledge of “Hawaiian race” came from? I sure you can muster that.
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 1:47 pm #
You wouldn’t know a fact if one slapped you in the face, Bent Over.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 1:47 pm #
“The definition of a Racist is anybody winning an argument with a liberal.”
-Bill Whittle
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 1:51 pm #
While you are answering sdferr’s question, maybe you could provide the rest of us with a list of the verboten codewords, so we will know better than to use them in the future. I am still not understanding what race has to do with Chicago street trash.
Comment by Bob Reed on 9/10 @ 1:52 pm #
Man, you know that Obama’s speech last night was lame, because all of the electronic brownshirt O-bots are out in force today…
I guess they’re all wee-wee’d up with no place to go!
Lucky us…
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 1:52 pm #
Well, I was asking happyfeet if his comment about “street trash” was some sort of euphimism for a black person. It’s a reasonable assumption, because Obama is black. I don’t recall that sort of epithet used with any WHITE Dems. For example, have you ever heard of Ted Kennedy referred to as “Massachusetts street trash”?
Comment by Snowcone on 9/10 @ 1:53 pm #
You’re a moron, he didn’t endorse him.
Rush said he wanted Mitt Romney to win the Republican nomination.
You’re just afraid to admit to yourself how tiny and powerless the Dittohead “army” really is Brain.
I understand.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 1:55 pm #
By the way Mr Dover, just so you don’t take me for an utter naif, I do want you to know that I suspect you are lying, not only to me but to yourself as well, when you say you “contracted” your race obsession here at this blog: on the contrary, I think that you came here with it already installed and rarin’ to go, a thing of no small value to you, a prized possession carried about wherever you may be, ready to be brought forth to display to the world, as such things are wont to be treated by those who value them.
Comment by Bob Reed on 9/10 @ 1:56 pm #
Why is this bunch always quoting Rush, Hannity, and Beck back to us like it’s some kind of scripture?
Don’t they realize that the commentariat here are independant thinkers?
But I guess since they rely on talking points then, well…projection is a bitch, ain’t it!
Comment by dicentra on 9/10 @ 1:56 pm #
You’re just afraid to admit to yourself how tiny and powerless the Dittohead “army” really is Brain.
He’s right, you know. The man with the “army” is Glenn Beck, who has two czar notches in his belt and counting.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 1:58 pm #
Ah, “because Obama is black”. Well then, case closed? Obama is black. Black, that is what he is, says he. But Hawaiian, let’s not forget, another race that must be credited. And the white one too perhaps.
Comment by Bob Reed on 9/10 @ 1:58 pm #
“For example, have you ever heard of Ted Kennedy referred to as ‘Massachusetts street trash’?”
Heck, I think I’ve used that characterization; among others, to be sure…
But then again, lefties, code words, projection; same ol’ story, just a different day…
Comment by Snowcone on 9/10 @ 2:00 pm #
Don’t they realize that the commentariat here are independant thinkers?
It’s just totally a coincidence that we have the exact same beliefs as Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck.
Yeah, that;’s it!
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 2:00 pm #
“wont to be treated by those who value them” OMG! I love you, sdferr! Anyone that values erudite language just can’t be all bad, you utter naif, you! :)
Comment by Bob Reed on 9/10 @ 2:00 pm #
Anyone who automatically equates “street trash” with black folks has revealed themselves a racist…
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 2:01 pm #
I don’t think I’m in want of your love, thanks anyhow Mr Dover, you can keep it.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 2:02 pm #
Ted Kennedy I have repeatedly specified is a “white trash piece of shit” from a very trashy trashy family. I hope that helps clarify things.
Comment by Bob Reed on 9/10 @ 2:03 pm #
“It’s just totally a coincidence that we have the exact same beliefs as Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck.”
Well, it’s not unusual that the same set of facts would lead many independant minds to similar sets of conclusions…
Kind of like many scientists reach the same conclusion when it comes to the law of gravity…
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 2:07 pm #
I dunno, the Kennedy Compound isn’t the first thing that springs to mind when I think about “white trash”. That must be because I’m a racist! :)
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 2:10 pm #
“Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 1:52 pm #
Well, I was asking happyfeet if his comment about “street trash” was some sort of euphimism for a black person.”
That’s because you’re a moron, bend.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 2:11 pm #
“For example, have you ever heard of Ted Kennedy referred to as “Massachusetts street trash”?”
Well, no, but I have referred to him as a murderer.
Comment by royf on 9/10 @ 2:12 pm #
I call Bill Ayers & Saul Alinsky “Chicago street trash” as well as Obama. It is all about coming up in the Chicago political machine. You know bribes, kickbacks, pay to play and the strategy of you opponents personal destruction. Sort of like how Obama got elected to the State legislature and the thuggish actions he employed through Acorn and the SEIU to defeat Hillary Clinton.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 2:13 pm #
“You’re just afraid to admit to yourself how tiny and powerless the Dittohead “army” really is Brain.
I understand.”
You understand nothing except your moronic preconceptions.
Comment by Bob Reed on 9/10 @ 2:13 pm #
“Kennedy Compound isn’t the first thing that springs to mind when I think about ‘white trash’.”
Then I guess you never paid much attention to some of the family members extra-cirricular activity…
Or, willful ignorance maybe?
Comment by Silver Whistle on 9/10 @ 2:14 pm #
sdferr,
I took your advice when in Vienna this summer, and picked up a couple of bottles of Ruster Ausbruch 2004. Opened one last weekend, and it was stunning. Thanks for the tip.
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 2:15 pm #
Disambiguation, ad hominem, do you guys usually run through the entire gamut of logical fallacies each day? Do you start with the formal and move to the informal, or is it the other way around. Oooo, I forgot ad populum, Oh, “commentariat” of “independant thinkers” :)
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 2:16 pm #
You’re quite welcome SW and I’m glad to hear it was a winner for ya.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 2:17 pm #
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 2:15 pm #
How often do you work your way through “The Little Red Book of Reactionary Leftist Talking Points”?
Comment by Silver Whistle on 9/10 @ 2:21 pm #
The beer sucked, though. Sweet muck with no hops. No wonder their empire collapsed.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 2:22 pm #
Archive Mr Dover, archive is huge. Avail yourself and your questions will be answered.
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 2:25 pm #
Have you guys ever considered that, to resurrect the Republican party, a return to political conservatism is probably the best course? I know you love your racism and Jebus, and hate abortion and immigrants, but if you were to put the social conservatism on hold, you would have more popular appeal.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 2:26 pm #
I told you guys. Bendover’s a racist. It’s obvious. He only sees Obama as black. Not a statist of the highest degree. But black.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 2:27 pm #
Again again, Mr Dover, strike out for the promised land of the archive, where you will be able to repair your working ignorance of the site and its most frequent inhabitants. Your “social conservatism” meme gives you away.
Comment by Abe Froman on 9/10 @ 2:28 pm #
Disambiguation, ad hominem, do you guys usually run through the entire gamut of logical fallacies each day? Do you start with the formal and move to the informal, or is it the other way around. Oooo, I forgot ad populum, Oh, “commentariat” of “independant thinkers” :)
You lost me at Ben_Dover.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 2:28 pm #
That and unbelievably dumb. Yes, it’s ad hom. but you haven’t offered anything other yourself, so well…
Comment by No one you know on 9/10 @ 2:30 pm #
Comment 152 is amusing considering that Obama has already disavowed both paying for abortions or illegal immigrants with this new health care legislation. Seems he did that just last night. Was he lying or is he a social conservative also? RE: racism, I’m not the one who called my grandmother a typical white person. How effing ignorant is that? And Obama invokes Jesus more than Bush ever did. Holy crap, Obama’s a social conservative. By Ben’s lights, I guess that’s why he’s tanking in the polls.
Comment by royf on 9/10 @ 2:34 pm #
“Social Conservatism” on protein wisdom now that is a laugh. Bentover doesn’t even know the nature of the posters on this site. But hey he is a “concern troll” so I’m sure he knows best just like his Presidebt Obama.
Comment by Salt Lick on 9/10 @ 2:37 pm #
If he’d not been rich, Ted Kennedy was what Robert Byrd would call “a White Nigger.”
Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 2:41 pm #
Dammnit, you guys hurt my feelings :( And I gotta get to work :) But fear not, I’ll be back tomorrow! I leave you with this, my reflection on all the traitors that don’t support our President:
When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
~Jonathan Swift
Cheers, gentlemen. Oops, sorry, I mean:
Fuck off, all you racist, cockmongling, treasonous assholes! Go suck on your God Rush’s flaccid, drug-addled wee-wee, you mindless drones! Oh, and if you can’t love America, and support her President, why don’t you move to Afghanistan, you traitorous sphincters!
Was that ok? I must admit, this ad hominem is fun! ;)
Comment by royf on 9/10 @ 2:44 pm #
As far as I’m concerned Ted Kennedy was a low life scum bucket. murder, treason, liar, politics of personal assassination. Nothing was low enough for TK nothing.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 2:44 pm #
“Comment by ben_dover on 9/10 @ 2:25 pm #
Have you guys ever considered that, to resurrect the Republican party, a return to political conservatism is probably the best course? ”
Isn’t that sweet, now he’s a concern troll.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 2:47 pm #
speaking of dunces………….
Comment by royf on 9/10 @ 2:48 pm #
Well I hate you pop you bubble about dunces bentover but Joe Biden is Obama’s Vice Presidebt.
Comment by Salt Lick on 9/10 @ 2:48 pm #
Wasn’t Thursday Thor’s poetry night?
Comment by Abe Froman on 9/10 @ 2:50 pm #
Dammnit, you guys hurt my feelings :( And I gotta get to work :)
Damn. My money was on you being a funemployed loser, but scurrying to work at this hour is probably the closest thing to it.
Comment by Bob Reed on 9/10 @ 2:52 pm #
Yes it was, Salt Lick…yes it was.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 2:58 pm #
On the subject of strange obsessions, this story of Marc Garlasco, Human Rights Watch and Nazi memorabilia is worth noting. Another link to an earlier account from a couple of days ago.
Comment by BJTexs on 9/10 @ 2:59 pm #
I’ve just read through the comments and will now go forth and seek the lost 15 points from my IQ.
Again, trolls that have no interest in arguing substantive points of the speech yet have near obsessive interest in elbowing each other and egging each other on to come up with as many different ways to call conservatives racists and dumasses.
I’m having a flashback to third grade recess.
Comment by Eben on 9/10 @ 3:03 pm #
I don’t know wtf you all are talking about. Barry is white and he’s a social conservative. He’s got a white mom and he’s anti-gay marriage, anti-public funding of abortions, anti-gays in the military, pro-indefinite detention of terrorists, pro-Patriot act, pro-rendition and pro-big business.
Really, what’s the difference between him and Bush? He spends more? Barry is the third Bush presidency.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 3:14 pm #
Has anyone run the speech through Wordle to see what — if anything — new might pop out? Ok, ok, I’m going.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 3:20 pm #
After “the/and/to/of/that/a/in” the next most frequent word in the speech is “will” at 69 uses, tied with “for”, followed by “We” and “insurance” at 67.
Comment by Bob Reed on 9/10 @ 3:23 pm #
Wors.have.meaning…
“Liberals never, ever drop a heinous idea; they just change the name. ‘Abortion’ becomes ‘choice,’ ‘communist’ becomes ‘progressive,’ ‘communist dictatorship’ becomes ‘people’s democratic republic’ and ‘Nikita Khrushchev’ becomes ‘Barack Obama.’”
Sometimes, you gotta love Ann Coulter!
Comment by Snowcone on 9/10 @ 3:24 pm #
Really, what’s the difference between him and Bush? He spends more? Barry is the third Bush presidency.
That’s the attitude Obama’s been trying to foster.
Welcome aboard, Eben.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 9/10 @ 3:32 pm #
That’s the attitude Obama’s been trying to foster.
…?
Obama has been trying to “foster” the idea he’s the 3rd term of the Bush Presidency!?
What in the blue fuck?
Are you retarded? Cause…I don’t wanna go on and make fun of you if you’re retarded.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 3:35 pm #
“Really, what’s the difference between him and Bush? He spends more?”
Bush spent money like a drunken sailor.
Obama spends money like a coked up Armada.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 9/10 @ 3:43 pm #
“Bush spent money like a drunken sailor.”
Yeah, but drunken sailors know when they’re out of money.
Barry invests tax-payer dollars like a Bernie Madoff and spends them like a pimp with a week to live.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 3:46 pm #
snowcone, are you as big a pussy as you are unquestionably dumb? I’m thinking you really do need the government. And the bendover fella can’t even do ad hom. No bullets in the chamber. Speaking as possibly one of the more libertarian minded (maybe?) denizens of Jeff’s place, I just have to love all this faux concern for the republican party as I think even in it’s faux concern, it may be well more invested than most of the commentariat. And I have to second royf’s #158. Yeah, this place is just jam packed with social conservatives. But it did hit on all the stereotypes.
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 3:55 pm #
So, someone that chose to call itself dickinsideher, dicklikkker, clit, and today, bendover, is now complaining about the level of discourse? Good Allah. The same one that’s entire reptoire consisted of yelling stooopid redneck racists. That kind of asshattery should hurt.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 4:01 pm #
that looks cool, sdferr thanks for showing me that
Comment by geoffb on 9/10 @ 4:04 pm #
What does logic say when you start from a false basic premise? GIGO.
Comment by Jim in KC & Partners on 9/10 @ 4:04 pm #
He’s half honky…
Comment by No one you know on 9/10 @ 4:07 pm #
comment @ 160
I’m sure Jonathan Swift never used the phrase “wee wee’d up.” I also bet that he knew Austrian wasn’t a language, but you go ahead and be easily impressed.
Comment by Big D on 9/10 @ 4:10 pm #
Comment by Snowcone on 9/10 @ 3:24 pm #
Really, what’s the difference between him and Bush? He spends more? Barry is the third Bush presidency.
That’s the attitude Obama’s been trying to foster.
Welcome aboard, Eben.
Hmmmmm. So, you’re good with Bush’s policies now? I may have to go back and check, but I’m pretty sure that’s not what your messiah campaigned on. Very interesting viewpoint you have there, snowcone. Everything you hate, as long as it’s done by an R, is fine as long as it’s done by a D? Nice moral compass you have there.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 9/10 @ 4:20 pm #
“I’ve taken Logic 101″…
I remember my freshman year too. Some of it anyway. Let us know when you graduate, get a job, and start paying taxes. Oh, and I wouldn’t advise having kids. Not because you’re an idiot (well, that too), but because right now every child is born $186,000 in the hole thanks to your messiah & Pelosi.
And we’re only 9 months in.
“Linear reasoning is like Kryptonite to sloppy thinking! :)”
Agreed.
You’re boned.
Comment by McGehee on 9/10 @ 4:23 pm #
I notice it doesn’t claim to have passed Logic 101…
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 9/10 @ 4:31 pm #
On topic & niiiiiiice.
Sure you do, champ. Sure you do.
Comment by Joe on 9/10 @ 5:16 pm #
Hot Air had the dope: So you think you can dance topped so you think you can lie…
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 5:18 pm #
Though I’m not privy to the contemporary uses of the word it seems odd to me that Mr Dover would have it that “disambiguation” be taken as something akin to a logical fallacy, does it not?
At least judging from the surface and working inward, it looks as though disambiguation would mean something like “sorting out multiple and hence possibly confusing meanings attributable to one word, an ambiguous word”. Which, on the whole, would appear to be a help to reason rather than a stumbling block, as the various fallacies prove to be. Or am I simply missing something here?
Comment by SBP on 9/10 @ 5:24 pm #
At least judging from the surface and working inward, it looks as though disambiguation would mean something like “sorting out multiple and hence possibly confusing meanings attributable to one word, an ambiguous word”.
That’s exactly what it means.
–verb (used with object), -at⋅ed, -at⋅ing.
to remove the ambiguity from; make unambiguous: In order to disambiguate the sentence “She lectured on the famous passenger ship,” you’ll have to write either “lectured on board” or “lectured about.”
“Dover” may have “taken” Logic 101, but he certainly wouldn’t pass if I were teaching the course.
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 5:29 pm #
sdferr – You are missing the fact that it is a babbling idiot.
Comment by SBP on 9/10 @ 5:30 pm #
Hahahaha! Here’s where the idiot got it.
Yo, “Dover”: the word “disambiguation” on that page doesn’t mean what you think it does.
You’re going to have to do better than Wikipedia copy and paste if you want to hang around here, son. Some of us have not only “taken” logic, we’ve taught it.
Comment by Rusty on 9/10 @ 5:34 pm #
#136
He arrived with a certain assumptions about who he was talking to. He mistakes classic Liberal for republican and assumes he knows who we are.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 5:35 pm #
Ha! Nice catch SBP my friend. Holy crikeys, whatta dipstick.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 5:36 pm #
The fragility of things I once thought durable still has the power to amaze, I feel a need to say.
First the Soviet Union disappears. Shock followed by relief.
Now the United States on the verge of *poof* in a cloud of what-just-happened? and the depression won’t go away.
Comment by SBP on 9/10 @ 5:43 pm #
Maybe Wikipedia should start disambiguating disambiguation pages. You know, for the benefit of first-rate intellects like Dover….
Comment by Big D on 9/10 @ 5:51 pm #
Wikipedia isn’t reliable? You don’t mean to say! Next thing you’ll say is that I can’t trust NBC. Blasphem…err…blasfem…err…that’s wrong! The One told me so
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 5:53 pm #
Well in this case BigD it isn’t wikipedia at fault but the inability of our visitor Mr Dover to understand what he was reading there.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 9/10 @ 5:54 pm #
The charge of racism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.
Comment by Big D on 9/10 @ 5:56 pm #
Oh, and one other thing. I haven’t been here in quite some time. JD, I need a blanket denouncement. And a condemnation. Denounced and condemned?
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 5:59 pm #
a) Cowboys or b) Bucs Big D?
If a), take a pass for now. If b), denounced and condemned instanter.
Comment by Snowcone on 9/10 @ 6:02 pm #
He arrived with a certain assumptions about who he was talking to.
Sure he does.
You’re the guys who vote Republican all the time but don’t take any responsibility for what they do.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 9/10 @ 6:04 pm #
Oh, and How! Big D.
Denounced and then some.
We need fewer and better trolls; much like Blandings Castle could use fewer and better Lady Constance keebles.
Comment by Big D on 9/10 @ 6:04 pm #
sdferr,
Please! I have been a Cowboys fan since the days of Dandy Don and Bullet Bob. Think I’ll pick the Bucs? As they say on ESPN, Come on Man!
Comment by Abe Froman on 9/10 @ 6:06 pm #
You’re the guys who vote Republican all the time but don’t take any responsibility for what they do.
You have that wrong. Most of us vote against Democrats rather than for anyone.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 6:07 pm #
I with you on the longevity of your love of team Big D (Granddad was an usher at the Cotton Bowl) but hey, I’m not any too sure this team has the brains to think its way out of a Tampon box, let alone a Tampa Bay.
Comment by Big D on 9/10 @ 6:10 pm #
We need fewer and better trolls; much like Blandings Castle could use fewer and better Lady Constance keebles.
I’m a troll now? Cowboys fan, yes. Troll, not so much.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 6:10 pm #
“…don’t take any responsibility for what they do.”
Oh horseshit, just because some of our choices may err doesn’t mean we quit voting or quit harassing them with missives or refuse to withhold our money from the sons of bitches. You have a tendency to claim to know far more than you actually do know, snowcone, and from where I sit, that ain’t good for your reputation.
Comment by Big D on 9/10 @ 6:15 pm #
I’m with you on that, sdferr. They’ll win this Sunday. My bet would be on 10-6. One playoff win and then done. By the way, Jerry Jones is Satan, pass it on.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 6:16 pm #
Isn’t that J. Jones fellow from Arkansas? ’nuff said.
Comment by Darleen on 9/10 @ 6:18 pm #
JD has it right
while BendsGay is using another IP 72.234.134.231, it still resolves to Honolulu
since he didn’t sober up, verdict is he’s just insane.
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 9/10 @ 6:23 pm #
Wrong on both counts.
Not that I’m shocked that is the case.
Comment by newrouter on 9/10 @ 6:25 pm #
projection
“You’re the guys who vote Demorat
Republicanall the time but don’t take any responsibility for what they do.”ask rangel,dodd,jefferson, et al
Comment by Theas on 9/10 @ 6:26 pm #
Hey guess what? Wilson’s top campaign supporter is the health care industry – paying him nearly a half million bucks over the course of his career, now why would he want to reform anything?
But what would you expect from a southern redneck member of the “sons of the confederacy” like Wilson?
The present bill says clearly: SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS. Obama is working on a bill that will address concerns by the CRS.
Obama kicked ass. It was a game changer. Polls show Obama’s health care reform approval jumped 14%, one in five naysayers came over to support reform. The rest of the GOP like Wilson remain in the know-nothing Palin-esque far right Civil War reenacting racist morons that are tryingf to spread lies and fear. Death Panels!!!!
It was great to see the contrast between an eloquent and intelligent President and a belligerent dumb redneck – the fool that represents the far right morons. They are incapable of negotiation. Obama has no business discussing anything with these imbeciles.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 6:29 pm #
That right there tells anyone paying attention all they would need to know about you theas. You are a monster.
Comment by Theas on 9/10 @ 6:31 pm #
One last thing, Democrats won the election and for good reason. This country has been mismanaged. Obama has tried to reach out to republicans and what does he get? Shouted down by an asshole in a joint session on live TV. And now you have the balls to rally around Wilson? That its. Game Over. You fuckers lose. You had your chance, and you shit your pants.
GAME OVER
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 6:32 pm #
A monster theas. What happened to you that made you that way? Or did you simply choose it?
Comment by geoffb on 9/10 @ 6:39 pm #
He meets one of the definitions of insanity. Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome to happen, which never does.
Comment by newrouter on 9/10 @ 6:41 pm #
“Obama has tried to reach out to republicans”
the thug in chief showed his brass knuckles last night.
Comment by Darleen on 9/10 @ 6:45 pm #
Obama has tried to reach out to republicans and what does he get?
Oh, is that why he has refused to meet with House Republicans since April?
Comment by Abe Froman on 9/10 @ 6:48 pm #
Theas is a pretty good example of why everyone here hates the left. Not an original though in its head. Can you imagine being such an imbecile that you’d push a narrative you were fed about the boorish behavior of one congressman on a post that details the entire Democrat aisle behaving likewise during a Bush speech a few years ago?
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 6:49 pm #
It’s a weird rage to be gripped by at what ought by rights to be the very pinnacle of success, at least in his own telling. It almost makes me think that telling isn’t believed (by him, certainly not me). Still, it’s bizarre enough to encounter. Were the S.A. like that as their power increased but they still weren’t certain they had what they needed to carry out their schemes?
Comment by Darleen on 9/10 @ 6:50 pm #
and TehAss you might like to talk to Axelrod about that “reform” thing…Wolfblitzer pwn3d him when it comes to “competition” vis a vis the DUPLICIOUS SPIN Obama engaged in last night when he was saying in “scary voice” that in some states only 3 or 5 insurance companies dominate…. When it is Congress that forbids insurance companies from operating across state lines.
There is no verification in HR3200 about citizenship in order to receive benefits. Nothing, nada, bupkis.
Obama lost 1/3 of the audience that watched him only 5 months ago. Keep drinking the koolaid TehAss
Comment by royf on 9/10 @ 6:51 pm #
LOL! at “game changer”.
I guess that’s why the dems said today they should be able to have a bill by the “Holidays”, Yeah right. And the Senate went to work re-writing to close the “loop hole” which would give illegals Obamacare. LOL!
Turns out Obama is a liar. But anyone with even minimal honesty knows anyway. Actually even idiots like Tehass knows Obama’s a liar, they just aren;t going to admit it.
Comment by Theas on 9/10 @ 6:51 pm #
Obama: “Insurance executives don’t do this because they’re bad people…”
FOX NEWS Sean Hannity: “when he said tonight that insurance executives are bad people”
Proof is here: http://mediamatters.org/research/200909100006
And I can expose a thousand other Fox News wingnut lies… but what would it matter? Morons can learn, they just shout slogans, like “you lie”.
Comment by Darleen on 9/10 @ 6:55 pm #
Obama lies, grandma dies.
Own it, TehAss! Obama engaged in unicorn farts and rainbow promises… The biggest is that he can make this statist monstrosity “revenue neutral”.
If there are billions of waste/fraud in Medicare…fix that right now and come back with the proof.
Comment by Abe Froman on 9/10 @ 6:56 pm #
And I can expose a thousand other Fox News wingnut lies… but what would it matter? Morons can learn, they just shout slogans, like “you lie”.
I can see Russia from my house, douchebag.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 6:56 pm #
Sean Hannity is completely uninteresting theas.
You on the other hand are very interesting. Again, can you answer a simple question about yourself?
What happened that made you into the monster you now are? Was it done to you by someone else or have you chosen this path for yourself? Is it entirely a mystery to you, in the way that Mozart, when asked where his musical inventions came from, replied that he didn’t know? Or are you aware enough of yourself that you can say what has happened and why it has happened?
Comment by Frank P on 9/10 @ 6:56 pm #
How did he manage to get the writers of The Wire to write his speech. As I sat watching it this morning, Obama’s face faded and Mayor Carcetti’s took over. Sheer fucking plagiarism, if indeed they didn’t get hired by the Omachine and they should sue him.
What a shill! Tony Blair was a Trojan Horse who took a bellyful of commies into No.10. This guy is a Trojan Elephant.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 6:57 pm #
The little president man what lies and lies is also very patronizing.
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 9/10 @ 6:58 pm #
Hannity is a fucking idiot. So what?
Comment by geoffb on 9/10 @ 6:59 pm #
No happiness on the left as long as there can be even the suspicion that someone, somewhere, openly, and without fear and trembling, is disagreeing with any portion of the
agendawisdom enunciated by whoever is the latest in the long line of anointed ones.Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 7:00 pm #
Hannity is a fucking idiot. So what?
He’s on cable!
Comment by Theas on 9/10 @ 7:00 pm #
The present bill says clearly: SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.
What about this do you not understand? Don’t be fucking stupid. It’s time for rational people with intelligence to take this country back.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 7:01 pm #
Theas, stop. Take a moment to say something meaningful about your rage.
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 9/10 @ 7:01 pm #
Link, Theas.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 7:02 pm #
That’s a lie. Illegal aliens are already excited about the free health cares the little president man promised them. Have you not talked to any of them? Ask them. Go ahead. Just ask.
Comment by royf on 9/10 @ 7:05 pm #
Here you go Tehass you ignorant little lemming. That what I was waiting for you dumbass.
Rep. Wilson Outburst Leads Senate Dems to Close Loophole in Health Reform Bill
In the Senate,
Democrats in the so called “Gang of Six,” began moving quickly to close the loophole Rep. Joe Wilson helped bring to light with his outburst during President Obama’s address to a joint session of Congress on Wednesday night.
Snip
“The Congressional Research Service has indicated that indeed the bills that are before Congress would include illegal aliens,” Wilson said. “And I think this is wrong.”
Indeed, the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service study found that the House health care bill does not restrict illegal immigrants from receiving health care coverage.
House Republican Minority Leader John Boehner amplified the complaint that without proof of citizenship, illegal immigrants could be insured.
“There were two opportunities for House Democrats to make clear that illegal immigrants wouldn’t be covered by putting in requirements to show citizenships,” he said. “Both of those amendments were, in fact, rejected.”
In the Senate, Democrats in the so called “Gang of Six,” a group of bipartisan senators on the Senate Finance Committee which is the last panel yet to release its bill, began moving quickly to close the loophole that Wilson helped bring greater attention to.
Snip
Comment by royf on 9/10 @ 7:07 pm #
Link for above article Here
Comment by Big D on 9/10 @ 7:08 pm #
Which bill would that be, theas? Your golden boy has no bill. Check this out:
SEC 123456: Federal payments are A OK for illegals.
See how easy that is?
Open your eyes young man.
Comment by Theas on 9/10 @ 7:10 pm #
royf, Why be an ankle-biter over a detail regarding proof of citizenship? The intent of the bill is CLEAR: SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS. THIS DETAIL WILL BE WORKED OUT.
Was it really worth screaming YOU LIE in a join session on TV? Is this what you stand for and what you condone? Or is it just about hurting a black president because he won the election?
And… Darleen, I’ve seen your picture and I’m very sorry, I can’t imagine what’s it like to go through life as a woman that looks like a man. I can understand why you’re so agitated. It must be very hard for you.
Comment by newrouter on 9/10 @ 7:10 pm #
“The present bill says clearly: SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.
What about this do you not understand? Don’t be fucking stupid. It’s time for rational people with intelligence to take this country back.”
So how did UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS get into the country, why are they still here, what measure are being taken to prevent their movement into this country, why are we giving benefits to criminals, where’s the sense of “JUST US” when it comes to line jumpers?
Comment by Theas on 9/10 @ 7:13 pm #
Yea, tell us… how did 20 million illegals get here in the first place? Answer – GW Bush – while he was spouting the line “we gotta fight ‘em over there or we’ll be fighting ‘em over here” bullshit… he certainly did very little to keep them out. Thanks Dumbya
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 7:15 pm #
Joe Wilson rocks and maybe the little president man will not tell as many lies going forward since it has to be very embarrassing for him to be caught on tv lying like that.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 7:17 pm #
Jeez. I think illegal immigrants are very nice and make a valuable contribution they just don’t deserve free health cares. You don’t have to be such a bigot, Theas.
Comment by RIP Ford on 9/10 @ 7:17 pm #
You think 20 million illegal aliens just decided to cross the border once W was elected?
Comment by royf on 9/10 @ 7:17 pm #
I repeat Tehass
Indeed, the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service study found that the House health care bill does not restrict illegal immigrants from receiving health care coverage.
snip
In the Senate, Democrats in the so called “Gang of Six,” a group of bipartisan senators on the Senate Finance Committee which is the last panel yet to release its bill, began moving quickly to close the loophole that Wilson helped bring greater attention to.
Obama is a liar and the people of this country need to know it, the lapdog media won’t even report when a Czar or two are forced to resign much less call his lies. So yes I support Joe Wilson’s bravery. He’s facing the biggest thugs I have ever seen in the White House by a big margin.
Comment by Theas on 9/10 @ 7:17 pm #
Abe Froman,
lol! Fox caught lying again – IN YOUR FACE
(what’s worse is that he believes the shit)
Comment by Big D on 9/10 @ 7:18 pm #
Hey theas, let me clue you in here. Bush is gone. Your guy is in the WH now. I know that old habits are hard to give up, but it’s been a while… You own it now.
Oh, and Fuck You on the comments about Darleen.
Comment by Abe Froman on 9/10 @ 7:20 pm #
Abe Froman,
lol! Fox caught lying again – IN YOUR FACE
(what’s worse is that he believes the shit)
In English, please?
Comment by cynn on 9/10 @ 7:21 pm #
This is insane. Why didn’t you guys kick up a fuss about illegals before this? There were myriad opportunities; you could have decicively controlled the borders. But no. Now, we have a situation where a program will allow treatment but not extend insurance. And you have a sudden hardon about that. The blacks didn’t pan out so well, so now we’re on to the beaners.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 7:21 pm #
So the 20 (very young) something goes to his wheelhouse. Disparaging how someone looks. What a shocka! Hey, theass, out of chivalry, I’d be the one that would beat the living hell out of you for being not only disrespectful, but otherwise an outstandingly dumb human being.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 7:22 pm #
So, theass hates himself some illegals, huh? Are you a taki drone? Sashal is that you?
Comment by Theas on 9/10 @ 7:23 pm #
You think 20 million illegal aliens just decided to cross the border once W was elected?
Yea, but it took bush several years to let in all the illegals.
BTW… Under Obama, the number of illegal aliens has declined for the first time this decade:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-02-23-immigration_N.htm
Comment by No one you know on 9/10 @ 7:23 pm #
cynn, you need to ask why Obama hates beaners. Remember last night, no illegal aliens will be covered? Sounds like Obama doesn’t like them spics……..
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 7:23 pm #
cynn you should have more respect I think than to call our Mexican amigo people beaners. These are thems what invented carnitas we’re talking about. They are a beautiful and giving people.
Comment by Big D on 9/10 @ 7:23 pm #
cynn,
You have got to be kidding. Were you not here for the debate about W’s shamnesty?
Comment by cranky-d on 9/10 @ 7:23 pm #
We did complain about illegals before, a lot. Don’t pretend otherwise. Well, go ahead and pretend if it makes you feel better.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 7:24 pm #
Fuck, cynn. You know better. Maybe you’re in between boxes of wine. I don’t know, but this place has discussed extensively border security and immigration.
Comment by RIP Ford on 9/10 @ 7:25 pm #
“Why didn’t you guys kick up a fuss about illegals before this”
What?!?
Please tell me you’re not this stupid. Really? Come on. Seriously. Where the hell were you hiding during the amnesty debate?
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 7:26 pm #
With a -3.9% decline in real GDP and a 9.7% unemployment rate it’s no damned wonder the number of illegal aliens is declining for the first time this decade. The economy had been running along pretty well for the better part of those years.
Comment by RIP Ford on 9/10 @ 7:26 pm #
“BTW… Under Obama, the number of illegal aliens has declined for the first time this decade:”
Congrats, now that there are no jobs they’re going home. Way to go Obama! At this rate they’ll all be back home this time next year. Hope! Change!
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 7:27 pm #
That’s because he has managed to nuke our economy (with Bush’s help no doubt). Please, choose either to be a complete dickhead or borderline retarded. To do both is injurious to your parents’ reputation.
Comment by Abe Froman on 9/10 @ 7:28 pm #
BTW… Under Obama, the number of illegal aliens has declined for the first time this decade:
Of all your moronic comments this is the kind that really shows what a brain dead hack you are.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 7:28 pm #
2 great minds and me say the same obvious fucking thing. Again, this guy is really, really, really damaged.
Comment by No one you know on 9/10 @ 7:28 pm #
Funny, how cynn doesn’t remember how the summer of 2006 really blew up in the face of Republicans, when Bush tried that amnesty shit. Good reason why the republican base couldn’t excited about McCain either. It’s just too bad that man slaughterer Kennedy will not have the opportunity to dust off his 1965 and 1987 speech about how this is the last time we forgive all these Mexicans who are here illegally.
Comment by cynn on 9/10 @ 7:31 pm #
Exactly. Why did the shamnesty and all other measures fail? Because you all didn’t have the stones or unity to ramrod a more vigorous anti-illegal measure through. That’s the one single issue I might have admired you for.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 7:31 pm #
feets, don’t forget Negro Modelo. I love that beer. I really do.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 7:32 pm #
Bold! My very modest kingdom for closed HTML tags!
Comment by Pablo on 9/10 @ 7:32 pm #
Obama’s America: Even Poor Brown People Don’t Really Want to Be Here.
Comment by Big D on 9/10 @ 7:32 pm #
Why do you hate Mexicans, theas?
Comment by royf on 9/10 @ 7:32 pm #
cynn I thought you could read
Indeed, the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service study found that the House health care bill does not restrict illegal immigrants from receiving health care coverage.
You can lie to youself if you must, but I won’t let you lie to me or anyone else I cab tell the truth.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 7:33 pm #
cynn, for fuck sakes. Who was the republican candidate for president of these here United States of America? Did this blog and its most excellent host admire that douchenozzle?
Comment by Pablo on 9/10 @ 7:34 pm #
Then again, they might just not be making it through Mexico alive.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 7:34 pm #
I’ve never tried it but I will.
Comment by geoffb on 9/10 @ 7:35 pm #
Which is what I surmised in #27 and now this is supposed to be to the credit of Obama? That the economy is now so bad that Mexicans would rather stay and work in Mexico?
Great job O! keep it up and we shall all move to Mexico.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 7:36 pm #
It’s a fairly “hoppy” Mexican beer. I say fairly, because compared to traditional IPA’s and other bitters, it falls kind of short. But for a Mexican beer (think light, zesty (no, I’m not gay…NTTAWWT)), it has a little bite to it.
Comment by Big D on 9/10 @ 7:39 pm #
Exactly. Why did the shamnesty and all other measures fail? Because you all didn’t have the stones or unity to ramrod a more vigorous anti-illegal measure through. That’s the one single issue I might have admired you for
This statement reveals more than you know. Your knowledge of your opposition is thin.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 7:40 pm #
I will enjoy it. I hardly ever drink beer so when I do it’s always the best beer ever.
Comment by cynn on 9/10 @ 7:41 pm #
There is a difference between treatment and coverage, apparantly. Emergency rooms are mandated to treat, while the coverage option would be required to insure.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 7:43 pm #
Well, if that’s the case, happy, then maybe I should send you a six pack of Great Lakes Brewing Company’s Christmas Ale. It is the best beer ever.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 7:46 pm #
oh. I will be in Minnesota first part of next year. They have a Great Lake near there – so maybe I can get some then.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 7:47 pm #
I am emailing my little brother now.
Comment by Big D on 9/10 @ 7:49 pm #
There is a difference between treatment and coverage, apparantly. Emergency rooms are mandated to treat, while the coverage option would be required to insure.
Just in case anyone missed this. Just…Golden.
Comment by william on 9/10 @ 7:57 pm #
“When any efforts to help people in need are attacked as un-American; when facts and reason are thrown overboard and only timidity passes for wisdom, and we can no longer even engage in a civil conversation with each other over the things that truly matter — that at that point we don’t merely lose our capacity to solve big challenges. We lose something essential about ourselves.”
–President Barack Obama, 9/9/09
Comment by newrouter on 9/10 @ 7:57 pm #
“while the coverage option would be required to insure.”
the standard to f))k up all 57 states muslim/leftist loser. free HEALTH INSURANCE NOW!
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 7:57 pm #
He sounds so eager.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 7:58 pm #
the little president man, meaning
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 7:59 pm #
TehAss decided to drop by and moon everyone again. Sorry I missed it. Maybe it should get together with the dickliKKKer bendover and do an interpretive dance about their love for illegal aliens and Barcky.
Comment by newrouter on 9/10 @ 8:00 pm #
““When any efforts to help people in need are attacked as un-American”
WHEN BEING STUPID IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF PATRIOTISM fart in the losers general direction
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 9/10 @ 8:00 pm #
“Yea, but it took bush several years to let in all the illegals.”
Dumbest thing written here this week.
If illegals ain’t covered by Obamacare why the need for the change in “uninsured” during last night’s speech. From 47 million to 30 million. But..but it’s been 47 million all along.
Uh oh.
Comment by newrouter on 9/10 @ 8:02 pm #
“free HEALTH INSURANCE NOW!”
means across state lines
Comment by royf on 9/10 @ 8:02 pm #
william we have already established Obama is a liar, so thanks for more evidence. Helping people who are never denied medical care and trying to nationalize The health industry in this country aren’t really related.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 8:05 pm #
“Comment by Theas on 9/10 @ 6:31 pm #
One last thing, Democrats won the election and for good reason.”
Because they lied.
They always lie.
It’s what Democrats DO.
Comment by SBP on 9/10 @ 8:05 pm #
Under Obama, the number of illegal aliens has declined for the first time this decade
Under Obama, we’re going to wind up being illegal aliens in Mexico.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 8:06 pm #
Yes, william. The man who calls anyone who disagrees with him as a liar is the quintessential paragon of civility. There is nothing essential about coerced charity you fucking dumbass.
Happy, I’m not sure if Great Lakes is carried by retail outlets in Minnesota, but if it is, please give it a try. It’s a beer that many occasional beer drinkers seem to enjoy. As a frequent beer drinker, I absolutely love it.
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 8:07 pm #
William – You left out out the part where he called everyone that disagrees with him a liar, told them to STFU and get out of his way, and said I won, bitches. Now, go back to teach the lute, and quit embarassing yourself, you racist hilljack.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 9/10 @ 8:07 pm #
There is a difference between treatment and coverage, apparantly. Emergency rooms are mandated to treat, while the coverage option would be required to insure.
I was wrong…that was the dumbest thing written here this week.
The stupid…the ignorance…it burns…
THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!!!
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 8:08 pm #
“There is no verification in HR3200 about citizenship in order to receive benefits. Nothing, nada, bupkis.”
The reactionary Democrats voted down an amendment to include enforcement on a straight party line vote.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/10 @ 8:08 pm #
hey Lamont person … here’s Reuters’ sort of confuzzling crack at that … whatever it is you figuratively crack at … I can’t remember … not a pinata …
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 8:10 pm #
“Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 9/10 @ 6:58 pm #
Hannity is a fucking idiot. So what?”
He makes reactionary leftist’s heads explode.
Which is a goodness.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 8:11 pm #
“Comment by Theas on 9/10 @ 7:00 pm #
The present bill says clearly: SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.”
Where’s the enforcement clause?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 8:13 pm #
“Comment by Theas on 9/10 @ 7:10 pm #
royf, Why be an ankle-biter over a detail regarding proof of citizenship? The intent of the bill is CLEAR: SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.”
Where’s the enforcement?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/10 @ 8:14 pm #
“Comment by cynn on 9/10 @ 7:21 pm #
This is insane. Why didn’t you guys kick up a fuss about illegals before this?”
No, cynn, you’re insane.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 8:14 pm #
Stated as Obama put it — “There are now more than 30 million American citizens who cannot get coverage,” — I don’t think the statement can stand as a defensible proposition. “Cannot get coverage” just doesn’t do justice to the myriad reasons (30 million of ‘em after all) these people don’t happen to have coverage. Many choose not to have coverage though they can afford to purchase it. Mike Tanner cited a study (Pauly and Bundorf) last night which appears to conclude that cohort runs from 25% to 75% (pretty wide margin!) but still, even at the little end of the scale that’s a hell of a lot of people.
Comment by newrouter on 9/10 @ 8:16 pm #
“miserable failure” to quote a demorat
Comment by newrouter on 9/10 @ 8:18 pm #
note to self: yo i need to quit smoking to get that back to 47 mil
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 8:18 pm #
LYBD, you’re gonna hurt yourself keeping up with the most obtuse, moronic, intellectually vapid, fundamentally dumb post by this newest iteration of trolls + cynn. This site deserves a better class, but alas it’s not meant to be, I guess.
Comment by Darleen on 9/10 @ 8:20 pm #
TehAss
“I am rubber, you are glue”, good lord could you be more puerile?
As has been pointed out before..there was a loophole the size of Delaware in HR3200 that Dems refused to close until Joe “You Lie!” Wilson caught the news cycle.
Sorta as dumb as “death panels” which has wee wee’d the Left all summer.
Comment by Big D on 9/10 @ 8:20 pm #
Where’s the enforcement clause?
Stop trying to make sense. Barak the magnificent said it, therefore it is the truth.
/
Comment by Rusty on 9/10 @ 8:21 pm #
Notice it doesn’t say Illegal Aliens, just undocumented aliens. I’ll show you whole factories of illegals with documents. Undocumented aliens is a legal wiggle phrase. It is now up to congress or who ever they put in charge of their healthcare fiasco to determine what constitutes ‘documents’
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 8:21 pm #
This one’ll make ya scratch yer head in puzzlement.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 9/10 @ 8:21 pm #
hf,
Money quote: “The proposal that the president outlined covers American citizens,” Gibbs told reporters. “His plan would not cover illegal immigrants.”
Except…HR 3200 makes it illegal for any medical clinic or hospital personnel to ask about or require proof of citizenship (Obama’s push for drivers license for illegals anyone?). The Repubs tried to strip that portion of the bill and were voted down across party lines.
Illegals will be covered ipso facto.
Comment by Rusty on 9/10 @ 8:23 pm #
#202
You’re supposed to dump the crushed ice before you invert the cone onto your head. But on you it looks good.
Comment by Theas on 9/10 @ 8:25 pm #
Because they lied.
They always lie.
It’s what Democrats DO.
Is Hannity now a Democrat?
http://mediamatters.org/research/200909100006
lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Darleen on 9/10 @ 8:26 pm #
This is insane. Why didn’t you guys kick up a fuss about illegals before this?
Jezus Ef Keerist, cynn, don’t stand so close to TehAss, you just caught something!!! Who are these “you guys” are you talking about?
Illegal aliens have been an issue for over 60 years… waxing, waning … Reagan signed an “one time only” amnesty in 1986 and Dems have constantly fought any ENFORCEMENT of citizen identification since.
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 8:26 pm #
Why persist in stupidity theas? Hannity is of little to no interest here.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 9/10 @ 8:28 pm #
“LYBD, you’re gonna hurt yourself keeping up with the most obtuse, moronic, intellectually vapid, fundamentally dumb post by this newest iteration of trolls + cynn.”
It keeps me young.
But I do have a headache now.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 8:29 pm #
Theasshole extraordinaire. Here’s the thing. Just because someone says that democrats lie, it’s what they do, that doesn’t mean that repubs (whose yearning for power is all too obvious, too) don’t lie, too. That’s not to say that I believe your media matters {snicker} link in regards to Hannity. He’s a tool, but Media Matters? Really?
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 8:30 pm #
Media Matters employs Oliver Willis who eats small children and Twinkies, by the pallet, for midnight snacks.
Comment by Abe Froman on 9/10 @ 8:32 pm #
Is Hannity now a Democrat?
http://mediamatters.org/research/200909100006
lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You’re really tickled to death about a misstatement by a semi-retarded political pundit aren’t ya? The venerable New York Times, which has fact checkers and lacks the immediacy of broadcast lied about a quote from Mark Steyn last week and it was repeated by papers all around the world … before the retractions. lol!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Theas on 9/10 @ 8:32 pm #
Speaking of lies, watch this, it’s really superb!!!!!!!!
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 8:34 pm #
TehAss – You could tell me what channel on the radio I could find this Hannity person? Kthxby
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 9/10 @ 8:34 pm #
Theas keeps linking to one of George Soros’s whore houses, media matters. But he/she/it is trying to be serious which makes me laugh and spit good German beer all over my monitor.
Stop doing that theas.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 8:36 pm #
Have a beer or two. It’ll help. And I actually think I age rapidly experiencing this amount of abject stupidity. It may be a defense mechanism, though. I’m reminded of Theoden’s soliloquy {warning extreme geek moment about to be displayed} in LOTR TTT in which he says, “How did it come to this” in regards to the upcoming battle at Helm’s Deep.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/10 @ 8:37 pm #
Now, Huffington Post? Theasshole is parody. Which one of you knuckleheads is it?
Comment by sdferr on 9/10 @ 8:41 pm #
Blame Canada.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 9/10 @ 8:41 pm #
“Speaking of lies, watch this, it’s really superb!!!!!!!!”
OMG theas you’re right!!!!!
That Olberman shit was FULL of lies!!!!e!eventy!!!
Exclamation y’all.
Sooooperb.
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 8:48 pm #
Anytime someone says “watch this” it is inevitable that what follows will not bring glory to the speaker.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 9/10 @ 8:50 pm #
It may be a defense mechanism, though.
Nah, I was just one of those kids that liked to poke crazy things with a stick to see what would happen.
I have a few scars.
“How did it come to this?”
To which Aragorn should have responded: “Because we let it become this.”
Geek on brother.
Comment by newrouter on 9/10 @ 8:53 pm #
” crowder mocking keith o”
http://infidelsparadise.com/?p=14688
Comment by McGehee on 9/10 @ 8:54 pm #
The only thing that could have made it worse was if he’d started it off with, “Hey, hold my bong and…”
Comment by Big D on 9/10 @ 8:56 pm #
Hey theas, watch this. It’ll open your eyes.
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 8:58 pm #
Usually “watch this” ends up in the ER. In TehAss’s case, back to the looney bin. Here come the orderlies.
Comment by SBP on 9/10 @ 8:58 pm #
Theas keeps linking to one of George Soros’s whore houses
Oh, that’s not just a metaphor.
Comment by Theas on 9/10 @ 8:58 pm #
Hear is some great advice for everyone here!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoo3OYCqxQE
Comment by newrouter on 9/10 @ 9:01 pm #
here’s advice to moonbats:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt1fYSAChxs
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 9:02 pm #
Now, after mooning everyone, repeatedly, TehAss is going to starting spamming links.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 9/10 @ 9:09 pm #
I think theas is Perez Hilton. Or some equivalent animal/vegetable/mineral.
!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Big D on 9/10 @ 9:11 pm #
JD,
Could I have that blanket denouncement now? And a condemnation too? Thanks
Comment by Big D on 9/10 @ 9:13 pm #
theas,
Instead of dropping one on the carpet, why don’t you defend the policies of your plastic messiah?
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 9/10 @ 9:30 pm #
From now on PW’s trolls should have to qualify for admittance by demonstrating the ability to pick up their progressive turds by the clean end.
Beats having them trying to polish their turds after they drag ‘em in here.
Comment by JD on 9/10 @ 9:57 pm #
Denounced. Denounced and condemned, bitches.
RACISTS !!!!!!!!!
Comment by J. "Trashman" Peden on 9/10 @ 10:40 pm #
The perfect timing and correctly calling the first cool President a liar in the midst of a
cynically propagandistic Presidential lie festjoint session of Congress on nat. t.v. just sooo automatically rates Joe as the new epitome of cool! Eat your hearts out, Proggs. Street trash’s done been dethroned.Comment by geoffb on 9/10 @ 11:06 pm #
William posted this quote.
Which is an example of what another black Harvard Law student noticed about Barack. *
That part he still has, however from another part of the article is something that has faltered in the world outside of the academe.
That ability is not working out in the real world of politics. The world outside the cloistered settings of Harvard Law, Hyde Park, and Community Organizing.
Obama is not used to having anyone disagree with him. He has moved through the world seeing barriers fall and believing they have done so by the force of his charm, his intellect. Seemingly unaware of the band of thugs that clear the way for him. Like a royal who never gets his feet wet because others always throw down their cloaks.
When his feet finally hit the water the shock will be felt by us all. Last night he felt a single drop. A precursor to the flood to come.
Comment by Snowcone on 9/11 @ 12:17 am #
just sooo automatically rates Joe as the new epitome of cool!
That’s a hard trick to pull off while spending the day on your knees begging forgiveness from everyone.
Comment by Replican on Acid on 9/11 @ 1:13 am #
The most telling place is Facebook. I note that of all of my pals that exist on that retched vehicle the only blow holes spewing idiocy are the Obamamites. I questioned one of them on this and whether or not they actually had a life and the only response I got from them was “fascist!”.
Holy fuck? I am the fascist? Wha? I have never EVER expected another human being to do jack shit for me nor have I preached to them on WHAT they should believe and I am the fascist?
I see nothing but doom and civil war for this country. It’s finally over. We are unfortunate.
The great idea is “dead”. Our friends and relatives are ready to fight for unsustainable parental government. The time has arrived, and even though we are the majority – WHY ARE SO MANY OF US AFRAID TO SPEAK?
Comment by Republican on Acid on 9/11 @ 1:15 am #
Sorry, “its’ just this evil wine that has me in its sway…”
This is RoA.
Comment by maggie katzen on 9/11 @ 1:41 am #
cause you can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason into? better just to let sleeping dogs lie.
Trackback by Maggie's Farm on 9/11 @ 3:06 am #
Friday morning links…
500,000,000 year-old photos from Hubble. It’s the "Butterfly nebula"
If you haven’t seen those ACORN videos yet, here they are. Why am I not surprised?
10 questions to ask your Congresscritter, with a sample letter. Villainous
…
Comment by Wm T Sherman on 9/11 @ 3:30 am #
Joe Wilson’s apology was on the order of: “I’m sorry for mentioning that you’re a liar during the address. There’s a proper time and place for that sort of thing.” That can’t be equated to a retraction of the sentiment itself.
Comment by alppuccino on 9/11 @ 3:53 am #
Hey Ben_Dover,
Why is Tiger Woods universally worshipped while being blacker than Obama would ever dream of being?
Don’t bother answering, because you don’t know. You’ll never know. Because you are weak and an imbecile. And I still maintain that Vijay Singh is blacker than both of them put together. But that’s another thread.
Comment by Wm T Sherman on 9/11 @ 4:06 am #
Obama is Red.
I don’t care what he looks like. I care what he’s trying to do. The ‘progressives’ and trolls are the ones obsessed with his appearance.
Comment by alppuccino on 9/11 @ 4:09 am #
George W Bush went to a field in Pennsylvania and he kept the jackals at 300 yards while he hugged, shook hands, hugged some more and listened to families who had lost loved ones. When I say “listened” I mean looked them in the eye, never looking at his watch, never interrupting to move on to the next family and listened until they got it all out.
I look at the man. With all the douchebags in Washington, George W Bush remained the class act that I describe above. And now with Obama in office, the circle is complete with the most classless individual ever to occupy the White House.
Obama might as well have a sign hanging around his neck that says ‘Hey! Look at me! I’m the president!’
Alan Keyes had it right, and if Ben_Dover disagrees, it means he’s a racist, because Alan Keyes is even blacker that Vijay Singh. You need to get off skin color Dover, it’s a loser.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/11 @ 5:02 am #
Comment by Theas on 9/10 @ 8:25 pm #
The Ass citing…..[ha]….[hahahaa[]……MEDIAMATTERS!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!
BBWWAAHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
[stops, wipes tears of laughter from eyes caused by the idiot]
BBWWWAAABABABABABAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAA!!!!!eleventy!!11!!!1@@1`
Of, fuck, you’re a retarded marmoset, The Ass.
But thanks for the laugh.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/11 @ 5:08 am #
I’m beginning to miss Jimmy Carter.
Comment by Rusty on 9/11 @ 5:41 am #
#351
You noticed that too. Sort of, ‘I’m sorry you’re a liar.’ Heh. Joe Wilson, speakin’ truth to power.
Comment by Eben on 9/11 @ 5:44 am #
Being completely brainwashed themselves these leftists couldn’t possibly fathom that everyone else isn’t exactly like them.
This is why when they’re confronted with the idea that most of us don’t follow lockstep behind these clowns like Hannity it makes their heads explode like a kernel of popcorn.
Comment by Rusty on 9/11 @ 5:57 am #
Well it’s 6:52 here on 9.11.2009. Offer up a prayer for all the murdered victims and their families.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/11 @ 6:04 am #
I guess the Truthers will be going batshit crazy.
Comment by Carin on 9/11 @ 6:06 am #
Sorta OT/ but my husband came home amused at Obama’s idea the things are getting better. We posted a job – and the phone rang OFF the hook all day. I had to pull it after ONE DAY. Anyway, he did some interviews yesterday, and this one guy was close to tears talking about how there is NOTHING jobwise anywhere.
But, we have found FOUR of Obama’s ARRA signs. It’s just like Mark Steyn says: a Sign proclaiming that this is a job funded by the ARRA (with an Obama logo next to it – ’cause that’s what it is, and anyone who says different is an idiot or liar) – anyway, a sign, some barrels, and not a damn person working.
It would be funny if it weren’t so fucking sad.
Comment by royf on 9/11 @ 6:08 am #
Prayers for all the 9/11 victims, their families and I will never forget.
“Day of Service” my ass this Country does the world a service with every screwed up jihadist they blow the fuck up……..
Comment by Theas on 9/11 @ 6:42 am #
THANK YOU JOE WILSON [R asshole, SC]!
Your asshole outburst has just helped your Democratic opponent Rob Miller raise $714,000 in ONE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL!!!!!!
He’ll probably be well over a million this week for Rob Miller.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 9/11 @ 6:45 am #
If only we could harness the power of troll stupid and make it a force for good instead of a force for annoyance!
Comment by SBP on 9/11 @ 6:47 am #
Yeah, I’m sure Wilson is scared shitless of the guy he beat 54-46 during the Plastic Jesus frenzy.
How much has Wilson raised, TheAsshole?
Hint: you might want to check on that before commencing masturbation.
Heh.
Comment by Carin on 9/11 @ 6:47 am #
Remember how whenever a Dem makes a mis-step (although I disagree that was what Wilson did) , the media spends the next day reporting how much his contender has raised?
Yea. Me neither.
Comment by JD on 9/11 @ 6:48 am #
TehAss is back to moon everyone, followed shortly thereafter with a public display of self-love, followed by it shitting out a bunch of Soros links. Go fuck yourself, swordfish style, you lying liebot.
Comment by Pablo on 9/11 @ 6:48 am #
I love it when moonbats throw their money away.
Comment by Carin on 9/11 @ 6:49 am #
Did Thea ever comment on how super-awesome Barack’s health care speech was?
Is anyone talking about that?
Comment by BJTexs on 9/11 @ 6:52 am #
[knock, knock, knock]
Um … excuse me? I was just wandering through this troll infested thread and … um … I appear to have misplaced several dozen points of my IQ. It seems to be leaking … away … und ieck fifghlit burblepants … erk.
[plop]
Comment by SBP on 9/11 @ 6:52 am #
Nope, Carin. Not even my lefty academic friends.
These are people who a few short months ago were forwarding Teleprompter Jesus’ every word, like a pack of tweens talking about the Jonas Brothers.
I think all the shine has worn off of Obama.
Comment by BJTexs on 9/11 @ 6:54 am #
Ack! Drowning in a mighty sea of TEH OBTUSE!!
[gurgle]
Comment by BJTexs on 9/11 @ 6:57 am #
Well we know Obama never mentions it in any of his health reform speeches but … have any of our trolls mentioned once the CBO numbers on the costs associated with the monkey crap pile of legislation?
[crickets]
Thought not! I think I’ll go schedule an MRI JUST BECAUSE I CAN!!
Comment by royf on 9/11 @ 6:59 am #
How much has Wilson raised
Mr. Wilson hasn’t released any figures yet but when I called his office yesterday and made a donation the lady I talked to said the contribution had been pouring in from all over the country. Honestly she sounded like it totally surprised them, but that is my speculation because she never said that.
I saw where crAP went to South Carolina to see how many people they could get to bash him, but it seems to have sort of backfired since many said they were glad he said it and most said they would still vote for him.
This will be another epic fail for the progg tards and as was said above it great to see the libs throw their money away.
Comment by SBP on 9/11 @ 7:05 am #
the lady I talked to said the contribution had been pouring in from all over the country
That’s about what I would have figured.
Comment by BJTexs on 9/11 @ 7:10 am #
Shorter version of Obama’s in Q & A form:
Q: What about the CBO’s report that the costs are underestimated and that the bill will add billions to an “unsustainable” deficit?
Obama: This talk of paying for the bill and red ink is divisive. The time for bickering is over.
Q: Um … Hookay what about this promise of billions of dollars saved by eliminating massive fraud in Medicare, a promise that every President and Congress has made and failed to accomplish since Carter?
Obama: Misrepresentations about our Aesop’s Fable promise to accomplish the impossible are partisan and bickering. Bickering no more, the time is!
Q: I … er … hmmm … well what about all of those peer reviewed studies from various medical researchers that plainly state that expanded preventative screening actually increases costs rather than saving money?
Obama: People who study studies are in and of themselves a study in studied obstruction. Bickering is bickery bicking! The time to end bickering bickly by bick bickety, bickety bickaroo!!
Q: [...]
Q: I have an urge for a bologna sandwich with a side of elves…
Comment by SBP on 9/11 @ 7:10 am #
The speech doesn’t seem to have done much good for his poll numbers.
Comment by BJTexs on 9/11 @ 7:11 am #
Obama’s “speech” Yeesh, I suck at this.
Comment by sdferr on 9/11 @ 7:12 am #
Ralph Peters has written a column intended to make your blood boil. I’m not sure who should read it.
Comment by Rusty on 9/11 @ 7:15 am #
#363
And he’ll still lose.
Comment by J. "Trashman" Peden on 9/11 @ 7:20 am #
“just sooo automatically rates Joe as the new epitome of cool!”
that’s a hard trick to pull off while spending the day on your knees begging forgiveness from everyone.
Spending months
fellating despots andbegging forgiveness from everyone is more “cool” than spending a mere day?Comment by Theas on 9/11 @ 7:24 am #
Support Rob Miller [SC-02] for Congress in 2010. Rob Miller served 13 years in the Marine Corp and served two tours of duty in Iraq He fought for America, he needs your help in defeating an obstructionist and lazy congressman Joe Wilson that has taken a half million bucks from the health care industy. Wilson doesn’t give a shit about you, only his contributors.
Donate now to Rob Miller!
https://secure.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/19079
(Miller has raised $723,649 since the Wilson ‘you lie’ outburst)
Comment by sdferr on 9/11 @ 7:29 am #
Obama gets results in the middle-east, just not the results we want.
Comment by JD on 9/11 @ 7:29 am #
TehAss – Do you ever tire of embarassing youself?
Comment by sdferr on 9/11 @ 7:35 am #
JD, this latest theas post amounts to spamming plain and simple, I think.
Comment by JD on 9/11 @ 7:39 am #
sdferr – I am going to borrow from you, again.
Dear TehAss,
Get bent.
Sincerely,
JD
Comment by sdferr on 9/11 @ 7:40 am #
A sentiment with which I heartily concur.
Comment by Eben on 9/11 @ 7:41 am #
What is this Marine Corp and where can I sign up? Is it like the Rand Corp?
Comment by JD on 9/11 @ 7:42 am #
That was just so elegant in its brevity, and it says so much.
Comment by Rusty on 9/11 @ 7:47 am #
#388
Better.
Comment by sdferr on 9/11 @ 7:48 am #
Fouad Ajami brings his clarity of thought to bear: “They were Arabs.”
Comment by J. "Trashman" Peden on 9/11 @ 8:10 am #
One last thing to be said for Obama ’cause I done be almost margarinalized agin’, and in deference to Proggs worldwide: He’s created such a massive deficit of teh “uncool” that it looks like no one’s ever going to catch Him, and He’s still digging! But, hey snowcones, that’s really cool, no? ‘Specially iffin you audaciously distort reality in order to reach them thar “higher truths”, right?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/11 @ 8:34 am #
Shorter Tehass:
“Ack! Thbbft!”
Comment by geoffb on 9/11 @ 8:43 am #
#393,
Me thinks you are doing Bill an injustice. He had more sense.
Comment by Carin on 9/11 @ 8:58 am #
What is this Marine Corp and where can I sign up? Is it like the Rand Corp?
Bahaa haaa haa.
I think the Marine Corp’s motto is : Simple fee!
Comment by Theas on 9/11 @ 10:03 am #
Rob Miller [SC-02] for Congress – has now raised $762,538 since Joe Wilson’s outburst.
Go Rob!!!
Comment by happyfeet on 9/11 @ 10:07 am #
Rob will sweep into Congress on a wave of oh no for reals the little dirty socialist man is so not at a lying piece of Chicago street trash sentiment. Except for the deficit neutral part. And the not covering illegal immigrants part. And the no rationing part…
Comment by Pablo on 9/11 @ 10:20 am #
Yeah, I hear there’s a lot of that in South Carolina.
Comment by Pablo on 9/11 @ 10:22 am #
I’m sure Colonel Wilson will be impressed and intimidated. Did you send Miller some money, Theass? Send more. Lots more.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/11 @ 11:04 am #
AT LAST!
ARMADILLO CAM!!!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/museumofanimalperspectives/3360436884/
via Dave Thompson
Comment by Danger on 9/11 @ 11:28 am #
“I’m sure Colonel Wilson will be impressed and intimidated. Did you send Miller some money, Theass? Send more. Lots more.”
Well played Pablo!
Comment by sdferr on 9/11 @ 11:35 am #
Danger, saw an article in the WSJ this morning and immediately thought of you and your ongoing efforts. Many thanks for your service good sir.
Comment by Danger on 9/11 @ 12:39 pm #
Sdferr,
Thanks for the sentiment and the excellent article. It was almost like reading my thoughts on the internet. I’m hoping that we will start to apply a more strategic approach to rebuilding the Iraqi Air Force especially since the deadline for removing combat troops is quickly approaching.
Here is another article discussing the same issue.
Comment by Danger on 9/11 @ 12:42 pm #
Oops, here’s the link old school:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5817D220090902?rpc=401&&pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=11604
Comment by sdferr on 9/11 @ 12:49 pm #
I hate to say it but I’m actually fearing the day when we look to have rebuild our own Air Force once Obama and his allies in Congress get through with it. Link. (An aside, G. Smiley’s post prodded me to go on GoogleEarth to peruse EglinAFB and while there I thought I’d take a peek at NASPensacola only to find, to my slight surprise, the BlueAngel Squadron sitting in line in the sun. Nice.)
Comment by Danger on 9/11 @ 1:24 pm #
Yeah sdferr,
Their is a crazy Mayor in Valparaiso that faught tooth and nail to try and prevent the F-35s from coming to Eglin.
Some lefties think National defense is nothing but an annoyance.
“I thought I’d take a peek at NASPensacola only to find, to my slight surprise, the BlueAngel Squadron sitting in line in the sun. Nice.)”
I live about 45 minutes away from NAS Pensacola. The Naval Aviation Museam is a must see. If you are ever in the area let me know and I’ll provide you an escorted tour.
Comment by sdferr on 9/11 @ 1:38 pm #
Thanks for the invite Danger, I may take you up on it one day.
If you’ve flown down there you may have seen this baby. My first trip to that area was as an 11 yr old in the summer of ‘64 when my dad was working for IBM on subcontract to Bendix on the original version of this radar. It burned down in May ‘65 (to my shock as a schoolkid. Such things happen, I thought?) and was subsequently rebuilt.
Though dad took me to see the beast up close, I remember the beautiful beach at the motel in Destin best. oh, and the first genuine smorgasbord I was ever exposed to. Good eats.
Comment by Theas on 9/11 @ 1:39 pm #
Did you send Miller some money, Theass?
Rob Millar has now raised $800,000 because of the beligerence of Joe Wilson. Wilson has raised only about 1/4 as much. What does that tell you?
lol
Comment by Danger on 9/11 @ 1:42 pm #
BTW,
Was there a back to school sale at the stupid store this week? Admittedly I am a little out of touch here but we seem to have been infested by trolls fashioning the latest in crazy talk this week.
Comment by sdferr on 9/11 @ 1:43 pm #
Hmmm, I guess that tells me that some people don’t want to hear the truth spoken aloud.
Comment by Danger on 9/11 @ 1:43 pm #
It tells me that the stupid store is having a lot of sales.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/11 @ 1:43 pm #
“What does that tell you?”
That you’re a retarded marmoset.
Comment by Theas on 9/11 @ 2:02 pm #
Rob Miller is now at $803,306, More than $3000 more in just the last 15 min.
FOUR TIMES what Wilson has raised. What does that tell you?
Comment by SBP on 9/11 @ 2:09 pm #
What does that tell you?
That a whole lot of lefties are really stupid?
And you think we trust you to manage our medical finances?
LOL indeed.
Comment by McGehee on 9/11 @ 2:11 pm #
I hope this link will show the close-up.
Comment by JD on 9/11 @ 2:16 pm #
TehAss cannot donate himself, being brainless and unemployable. All that money, and he will still get his ass kicked. I love watching you Leftists spend money on stupid shit. Keep going.
Comment by BJTexs on 9/11 @ 2:21 pm #
You know what, people? Today is the 8th anniversary of the attacks on the Twin Towers.
Quite frankly, just for today, I couldn’t give a heaping pile of monkey shit how much some obscure SC Congress Critter wanna-be raised in funds on the back of Joe Wilson.
Tomorrow is another day.
Comment by Abe Froman on 9/11 @ 2:28 pm #
Rob Miller is now at $803,306, More than $3000 more in just the last 15 min.
FOUR TIMES what Wilson has raised. What does that tell you?
That Lefties believe in checkbook democracy?
That while lefties are very stingy with charitable giving they don’t mind “donating” to politicians to help the state do their bidding?
That lefties like wasting their own money on childish spasms of rage?
That Joe Wilson is even eeeeeeviiiiiiler than the CEO of Whole Foods?
That Theass needs a job so that he too can contribute to
societyWilson’s opponent?Comment by royf on 9/11 @ 4:11 pm #
Hey Tehass I know your dumb ang get your information from screwed up and biased scources so I thought you might miss this.
Wilson’s Fundraising Tops $700,000 After Outburst
By John McArdle
Roll Call Staff
Sept. 11, 2009, 4:18 p.m.
In the wake of the controversy Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) sparked by shouting “You lie!” during President Barack Obama’s address to a joint session of Congress on Wednesday, a Republican source said the Congressman had raised about $700,000 by Friday afternoon.
Comment by geoffb on 9/11 @ 4:12 pm #
From “The Greenroom”, The “Section 246 Proves Joe Wilson Is A Liar” Lie by Legal Insurrection.
I think that sums up the trolling fraternity around here.
Comment by Theas on 9/11 @ 4:19 pm #
“…a Republican source said ”
Of course. HHAHA! A republican sources said… yea right. You got a credible source?
Miller is now at $817,000
http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/19079
http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/19079
Comment by royf on 9/11 @ 4:34 pm #
Which is published in Roll Call, Yours is a online democrat activist, Credible indeed. Like I said you get all your information from lefty propaganda groups because your dumb.
But really I don’t care much about what a ignorant little man you are. It is a day to honor real victims, Not the perpetual whines and con men you hold in high esteem.
Comment by Theas on 9/11 @ 4:36 pm #
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/09/wilson-in-trouble.html
Wilson trails Democratic challenger Rob Miller 44-43 in a PPP survey conducted Thursday night and Friday morning. 62% of voters in SC-2 disapprove of Wilson’s actions while just 29% think they were ok. By a 48-41 margin Republicans think what he did was fine, but independents are opposed to it by a 66-25 margin
If a fat white racist “son of the confederacy” Republican is in trouble in SC… then 2010 should be good!!
Comment by royf on 9/11 @ 5:00 pm #
“Dean Debnam is a Democratic pollster and regular campaign donor. The chief executive officer of Workplace Options, he started Public Policy Polling, a Raleigh-based political research firm, in 2002 as a side business. The company uses automated dialers for polling, message testing for candidates and advocacy, such as a recent effort urging higher impact fees in Raleigh. Clients have included Raleigh Mayor Charles Meeker, City Councilman Thomas Crowder and the Conservation Council of North Carolina. Respondents are found using voter rolls which are weighted to represent typical turnout. His wife, Stephanie Fanjul, ran for mayor in 1999.” from http://projects.newsobserver.com/under_the_dome/profiles/dean_debnam
With that I’m done with you. In a year Joe Wilson is going to be re-elected in a landslide.
Comment by Theas on 9/11 @ 5:07 pm #
“From “The Greenroom”, The “Section 246 Proves Joe Wilson Is A Liar” Lie by Legal Insurrection.”
Nice… from HotAir – Ed Morrisey’s Malkin owned blog – real unbiased source there!!
Morrisey a confirmed wingnut birther that spread lies about Obama. Great source!
http://24ahead.com/ed-morrissey-hotair-misleads-about-obama-birth-certificate
Rob Miller donations now at: $822,191
Comment by Theas on 9/11 @ 5:09 pm #
“Respondents are found using voter rolls which are weighted to represent typical turnout.”
Sounds like a very good pollster. Thanks for pointing that out for us royj!
Comment by Abe Froman on 9/11 @ 5:35 pm #
Take a deep breath Theas. Don’t get too caught up in today’s leftard talking points. Wilson’s opponent should be getting cash rained down on him at the moment because that’s the way the left operates. If a politician urks you, finance his opponent and slime him. If a private citizen urks you, dig up dirt and get bureaucratic hacks to release private information. If a beauty pageant contestant shares the same view on gay marriage as Teleprompter Jesus, attack her and get her run out of the competition. If a purveyor of food for the dipshit secular religion of the left writes an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal about healthcare reform that’s at odds with the far left, boycott his stores.
And the best part is that lefty opinion-makers and activists can always rely on a steady stream of addled-brained zombies like yourself to mindlessly giggle out their talking points. But this will pass, and while you’re copy and pasting your horse race polling/contribution numbers like an Orangutan masturbating in front of families at the zoo, your fearless leaders are already at work developing your next batch of thoughts.
Comment by JD on 9/11 @ 5:39 pm #
I see Soros’ little bitch is still blathering on about this. TehAss, you ACORN friends gÓt busted again today, and now Barcky is throwing them under the back of the bus. How does it feel to consort with people that try to aid people in child sex slavery? Did you donate to the ACORN legal defense fund yet?
Comment by royf on 9/11 @ 5:54 pm #
Sounds like a very good pollster. Thanks for pointing that out for us royj!
Well Tehass here is the top 20 accuracy ratings from Fordham University for the 2008 election, There not on it. Hell they didn’t beat Newsweak, But I’m sure they are accurate enough for you LOL!
1. Rasmussen (11/1-3)**
1. Pew (10/29-11/1)**
2. YouGov/Polimetrix (10/18-11/1)
3. Harris Interactive (10/20-27)
4. GWU (Lake/Tarrance) (11/2-3)*
5. Diageo/Hotline (10/31-11/2)*
5. ARG (10/25-27)*
6. CNN/Opinion Research (10/30-11/1)
6. Ipsos/McClatchy (10/30-11/1)
7. DailyKos.com (D)/Research 2000 (11/1-3)
8. AP/Yahoo/KN (10/17-27)
9. Democracy Corps (D) (10/30-11/2)
10. FOX News/Opinion Dynamics (11/1-2)
11. Economist/YouGov (10/25-27)
12. IBD/TIPP (11/1-3)
13. NBC/WSJ (11/1-2)
14. ABC/Washington Post (10/30-11/2)
15. Marist College (11/3)
16. CBS (10/31-11/2)
17. Gallup (10/31-11/2)
18. Reuters/ C-SPAN/ Zogby (10/31-11/3)
19. CBS/NY Times (10/25-29)
20. Newsweek (10/22-23)
Comment by royf on 9/11 @ 5:56 pm #
Now I am really through poking holes in your bubbles. I feel like I’m picking on a child. Adios.
Comment by Theas on 9/11 @ 5:59 pm #
Thankyou gentlemen for the white christian flat-earther view. (like 99% of commenters here).
Rob Miller donations now at: $826,428.
Comment by JD on 9/11 @ 6:01 pm #
Joan Walsh from Salon is a gibbering idiot. TehAss prolly has a crush on her, as they seem to share the same talking points.
Comment by Abe Froman on 9/11 @ 6:06 pm #
Thankyou gentlemen for the white christian flat-earther view. (like 99% of commenters here).
Do us a favor and list your age, area where you live, your religion (or beliefs), your occupation, and colleges you’ve graduated from. Seems only reasonable that we know more about you since you know all about us. Otherwise you’re as gutless as you are brain dead.
Comment by JD on 9/11 @ 6:15 pm #
This one is more than a little bit wacky.
Comment by Theas on 9/11 @ 6:19 pm #
Abe Froman,
“mindlessly giggle out their talking points” Like “you lie” and “death panels”?? – that should be very easy for the Republican Party, since most of their constituency is relegated to the southern, rural areas, and the least educated parts of America where lunatic talk radio has the most impact. That is obvious.
CNN poll 9/9/09
“Do you think the policies being proposed by Barack Obama will move the country in the right direction or the wrong direction?”
Right Direction 70%
Wrong Direction 27%
“From everything you have heard or read so far, do you favor or oppose Barack Obama’s plan to reform health care?”
Favor 67%
Oppose 29%
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Rob Miller donatations now up to $828,203
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Comment by JD on 9/11 @ 6:23 pm #
Abe – Did that assclown, The wee little Soros bitch, just use a poll that had 45% Dem, 37% Ind, and 18% Rep ? It really is dummerer than a sack of shit.
Comment by Abe Froman on 9/11 @ 6:26 pm #
He’s a real marvel, JD. I’m still waiting on answers to #433. Not holding my breath though.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/11 @ 6:36 pm #
“Comment by Theas on 9/11 @ 5:59 pm #
Thankyou gentlemen for the white christian flat-earther view. (like 99% of commenters here).”
HAHAHAHAHAAAA
You are a fucking moron.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/11 @ 6:39 pm #
And I really mean that.
You’re an OCD spewer of reactionary leftist talking points, totally sense free.
THIS IS A RETARDED MARMOSET!
Now go someplace else and pine for the fjords.
Comment by royf on 9/11 @ 6:45 pm #
Hell the guy doesn’t even know how to read a poll. He was impressed in that post up above about how PPP weighed its data against demographics LOL! Wow that makes them unique, he evidently doesn’t even know what a poll is LOL! I guess they haven’t posted that on his talking point memo, On second though that doesn’t really matter to his puppet masters does it?
The guy is either a complete moron or he’s about 14 years old, Its a close call I’m not sure. But what I do know is the guy doesn’t have a single thought in his head, Its full of memorized propaganda.
Comment by Danger on 9/11 @ 6:56 pm #
For those of you who may have not seen this in the 911 thread:
“20.Comment by BJTexs on 9/11 @ 1:44 pm #
Pardon the length but this has been on my mind all day.
My mom used to tell me that I should never pick at a wound while it was healing. The more I picked the longer it would take to heal and might leave a more prominent scar.
Some wounds should never heal, at least not completely.
Every 9/11 anniversary for the past eight years I have taken the time to plow through many of the films, testimonials and recordings of the awful day. I try not to worry about the masochistic idea of hearing and seeing horrific things that have been burned into my memory. Every year at this time I cry all over again
I watch various videos of the planes hitting the towers.
I see photos and film of terrified, desperate people jumping to their deaths.
I listen to that little girl speaking to her father on the one year anniversary of his murder, telling him that she tries not to cry because “he didn’t like it” and assure him that she leaves the light on in her bedroom just in case he may show up to kiss her goodnight.
I listen to the 911 calls from Kevin Cosgrove and Melissa Doi, alternately angry, full of pain and terrified as the last moments of their lives slipped away.
I sit and stare at that incredible Budweiser ad as the Clydesdales trot across country highways, cross the Brooklyn Bridge and bow before the skyline of Manhattan.
I ache for Betty Ong’s husband as he describes his last call from his flight attendant wife on United 93.
I watch and listen to “I Am Overcome” set to the images of the aftermath of the attack.
I always end with Todd Beamer’s wife describing the last call from her husband aboard that flight; about how much he loved her and their child to be born without him and the final, iconic “Let’s roll.”
and .. I cry, the tears as copious as as they were on that day and every day each year after.
That last choice is designed to fix defiance on my heart even as I struggle for forgiveness and reconciliation in my soul.
I know that I’m picking at the wound, but I don’t care. I don’t want this wound to completely heal and I want the scar to be visible and real. We now live in a time when it is more the policy of our government to act in appeasement and self blame rather than in defiance and righteousness. The very fact that our President decided that the anniversary of the the most violent attack upon our country’s shores should be a day of service sickens me in it’s attempt to deflect and sidestep. My defiance wins out over despair.
Every. Time.
I pray for God’s grace, in some inconceivable way, to comfort the thousands of families who lost loved ones and that He may heal the world of the evil that is Radical Islam. I also pray that He will keep us forthright and clear eyed in seeking justice for ourselves and the rest of the world in the face of tyranny and extremism.
By the next morning the bleeding will have stopped but the scar will remain. I hope it is visible until the end of my days.”
I think you would agree that was worthy of more than a single post so if you have a site or facebook page set up a link and spread the message: NEVER FORGET!
Comment by royf on 9/11 @ 7:00 pm #
S.C.’s Wilson Rakes In $750,000 in Less Than 48 Hours !
Washington Post ^ | 9.11.09 | Paul Kane
With a political arms race in full force, Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) has raised almost $750,000 in less than 48 hours since his shout of “You lie!” to President Obama during the Wednesday address to Congress, almost matching the Internet-fueled haul of his likely Democratic opponent.
A senior GOP official said Wilson, who apologized to White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel after the health-care speech but has since refused a more public apology, has turned his own previous sleepy campaign machine into an Web-friendly effort. Just as liberals have poured cash into the campaign of Rob Miller, who lost to Wilson by almost eight percentage points in 2008, conservatives are pouring contributions into Wilson’s campaign at an astonishing rate.
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Well dumbass I guess you know who the Washington Compost is don’t you?
Comment by Danger on 9/11 @ 7:01 pm #
G’night all,
Comment by happyfeet on 9/11 @ 7:03 pm #
that was the best thing I read today Mr. Danger
Comment by Theas on 9/11 @ 7:23 pm #
[fuck you, TehAss]
Comment by happyfeet on 9/11 @ 7:26 pm #
Sounds like the CIA really dropped the ball. Did they happen to mention what they needed Bush to do to stop bin Laden that they couldn’t get off their pansy CIA asses and do themselves?
Comment by Abe Froman on 9/11 @ 7:34 pm #
Hey Theas, are you ever going to answer #433? All of us white Christian flat earthers are eagerly awaiting your response.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/11 @ 7:35 pm #
Comment by Theas on 9/11 @ 7:23 pm #
Oh sweet jeebus on a pogo stick, theas is a cocksucking twoofer.
Retarded marmoset indeed.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/11 @ 7:37 pm #
In case of fire, break glass:
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/
The permanent top post at SLC is a great way to immunize people against twoooooofer insanity.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/11 @ 7:39 pm #
Oh, and theass?
Fuck you, the horse you rode in on and all the Hussars trotting along behind.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/11 @ 8:10 pm #
All truthers are insane.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/11 @ 8:12 pm #
oh. is this not the weirdest fucking thing ever? This man is I think an aging drugged out low-class piece of shit and Warner Bros. should shitcan his daffy ass right away.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/11 @ 8:13 pm #
Two and a Half Troofers?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/11 @ 8:16 pm #
What did I say hf?
Insane.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/11 @ 8:28 pm #
As an aside, I’d like to say that Mozart string quartets are music perfected.
Comment by JD on 9/12 @ 7:18 am #
1 1/2 Barking Moonbats
Comment by Rusty on 9/12 @ 8:26 am #
#451
I disagree. They’re easily lead. Devoid of any critical reasoning skills any plausable sounding story becomes acceptable and makes them look intelligent to their peers. Not too bright or intellectually lazy take your pick.
Comment by geoffb on 9/12 @ 10:13 am #
White House admits that Joe Wilson was right.