September 9, 2009
Shorter Obama: More credit please, I won’t be paying for it [Darleen Click]

by Michael Ramirez

$13,000,000,000,000

The Senate must move legislation to raise the federal debt limit beyond $12.1 trillion by mid-October, a move viewed as necessary despite protests about the record levels of red ink. [...]

Democrats in control of Congress, including then-Sen. Obama (Ill.), blasted President George W. Bush for failing to contain spending when he oversaw increased deficits and raised the debt ceiling.

“Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren,” Obama said in a 2006 floor speech that preceded a Senate vote to extend the debt limit. “America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.”

Obama later joined his Democratic colleagues in voting en bloc against raising the debt increase.

Now Obama is asking Congress to raise the debt ceiling, something lawmakers are almost certain to do despite misgivings about the federal debt. The ceiling already has been hiked three times in the past two years, and the House took action earlier this year to raise the ceiling to $13 trillion.

Related: What the hell is she saying?

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  1. Comment by Eben on 9/9 @ 5:41 am #

    Well, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. What else can be said except that America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership?

  2. Comment by B Moe on 9/9 @ 5:42 am #

    We are also drowning in stupidity?

  3. Comment by Seth on 9/9 @ 5:54 am #

    She’s saying that we’re just going to go on ahead and spend, tax, spend, and tax some more, because she really can’t see what could go wrong. After all, things were great yesterday, and are great today, so there’s no reason to believe things won’t be great tomorrow.

    Did I capture that ok?

  4. Comment by TheGeezer on 9/9 @ 5:56 am #

    Seth, it is because America is so big, how could it fail?

    They are all goofy bastards.

  5. Comment by Pablo on 9/9 @ 6:07 am #

    Wow. She said the bill is scored as paygo? Huh. A Congresscritter lying….

  6. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/9 @ 6:07 am #

    “After all, things were great yesterday….”

    Well, no.

    According to the reactionary left America was a fascistic imperialist hegemonic racist sexist and homophobic nation, until the Healing Touch™ of Obama was applied.

  7. Comment by Seth on 9/9 @ 6:09 am #

    Yes Geez. These people disgust me: blind pride, crass partisanship before public interest.

    Still in the theme of “America is too big to fail”: I think that one of the worst things the left has done to America is getting our kids to swallow the poison of multiculturism; a nation isn’t brought together by its people’s differences, it’s brought together by its people’s shared values. It’s almost as if they want us to be divided.

  8. Comment by Seth on 9/9 @ 6:11 am #

    N. O’Brian:
    “…America was a fascistic imperialist hegemonic racist sexist and homophobic nation…”

    Well, yeah, but…the credit flowed freely.

  9. Comment by Joe on 9/9 @ 6:12 am #

    I am sure the speech tonight will be a blast!

  10. Comment by Pablo on 9/9 @ 6:14 am #

    This is also a pretty good vid from the NRCC.

  11. Comment by Joe on 9/9 @ 6:17 am #

    Q. I just joined an HMO. How difficult will it be to choose the doctor I want?
    A. Just slightly more difficult than choosing your parents. Your insurer will provide you with a book listing all the doctors in the plan. The doctors basically fall into two categories: those who are no longer accepting new patients, and those who will see you but are no longer participating in the plan. But don’t worry, the remaining doctor who is still in the plan and accepting new patients has an office just a half-day’s drive away.

    Q. Do all diagnostic procedures require pre-certification?
    A. No. Only those you need.

    Q. Can I get coverage for my preexisting conditions?
    A. Certainly, as long as they don’t require any treatment.

    Q. What happens if I want to try alternative forms of medicine?
    A. You’ll need to find alternative forms of payment.

    Q. My pharmacy plan only covers generic drugs, but I need the name brand. I tried the generic medication, but it gave me a stomach ache. What should I do?
    A. Poke yourself in the eye.

    Q. What if I’m away from home and I get sick?
    A. You really shouldn’t do that.

    Q. I think I need to see a specialist, but my doctor insists he can handle my problem. Can a general practitioner really perform a heart transplant right in his/her office?
    A. Hard to say, but considering that all you’re risking is the $20 co-payment, there’s no harm in giving it a shot.

    Q. Will health care be different in the next century?
    A. No, but if you call right now, you might get an appointment by then.

  12. Comment by Seth on 9/9 @ 6:25 am #

    You need a better HMO then Joe.

  13. Comment by sdferr on 9/9 @ 6:51 am #

    It is strange to have to say but it is beginning to look like Pres Obama is prepared to drive his Hopenchange schoolbus right off solid ground and over a cliff into thin air tonight, depending solely on his laughably vaunted oratorical skills to cause the bus to sprout wings and fly back to the safety of a new all-rainbows-all-the-time unicorny future. I can’t recall a “leader” who has appeared more out of touch with simple realities.

  14. Comment by serr8d on 9/9 @ 6:52 am #

    Ugggh. Joe, I had an option to choose either a HMO plan or broader coverage (non-HMO) that was a bit more costly.

    Maybe you should approach your employer about offering a choice.

    (Oh, Joe, tell me, does Patterico still have Jeff G. banned? Because I’d like to read him again. But until he gets squared away and off his madman CJ bent, I’ll look elsewhere.)

  15. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/9 @ 7:09 am #

    “I can’t recall a “leader” who has appeared more out of touch with simple realities.”

    Well, I’m beginning to miss Jimmy Carter.

  16. Comment by Bob Reed on 9/9 @ 7:35 am #

    I can’t recall a “leader” who has appeared more out of touch with simple realities.

    Stalin, maybe? Or do I go there, and use the “H” name…

  17. Comment by Scape Goat Trainee on 9/9 @ 7:36 am #

    Thirteen Trillion debt limit?
    That’s it, I’m learning Chinese.

  18. Comment by SBP on 9/9 @ 7:37 am #

    sdferr: Kim Jong Il is pretty whacked.

  19. Comment by sdferr on 9/9 @ 7:38 am #

    You all have got me to rights. I should have written an American leader. Sorry.

  20. Comment by BJTexs on 9/9 @ 7:42 am #

    Comment by TheGeezer on 9/9 @ 5:56 am #

    Seth, it is because America is so big, how could it fail?

    They are all goofy bastards.

    That failure meme is a fallback position, Geezer. The left is all about perceived failures in all of it’s macro and micro forms. America’s “failures” are a corollary of the “If Just One…” rule.

    “If just one Burmese alpaca could be spared the heartbreak of psoriasis, then it will have been worth it.”

    We are saddled with a Democratic Congress that is entirely focused on ideological and political “ends” and not the least bit interested in “means.” It certainly makes them goofy but, more importantly, it makes them dangerous. On the one hand you have the Health Care Reform for its own sake continuing to be crammed down our throats even though they know they have no way to pay for it. It’s telling and infuriating that, after a month of falling polls and loud protests, the only thing that matters to Pelosi and Reid, etal, is that they have the votes! Let’s get this done! On the other hand they’ll brush off their planet sized hypocrisy on deficits and the debt limit because what we’re going to be spending heaps of money on pushes socialistic policies and empowers them as a political force. Lost on them is the irony that when Bushhitler was increasing deficits it was mostly (but not all) to pay for the Constitutionally mandated “provide for the common defense.” Whether or not one agreed with the exact strategerie, at least fit the mandate.

    And yet leftists howled at the shredding, so to speak.

    “Don’t worry about the debt, America is too big to fail and if just one hillbilly yahoo gets a vaccine against Swine flu …”

    Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

    You and I don’t matter, even a little bit. Only the ends matter, a manufactured elitist morality that denies the idea of “everyone is free to succeed or fail” and replaces it with “we’ll take away your too much so others can be closer to average.”

  21. Comment by Bob Reed on 9/9 @ 7:44 am #

    Speaking of “H” words…
    ‘Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren,’ Obama said in a 2006 floor speech that preceded a Senate vote to extend the debt limit. ‘America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.’

    So that’s somehow different now that his wO!n-ness! is responsible for racking up that public debt?

    But, I don’t know why anyone is surprised by Obama’s hypocrisy. He’s seems to have always been a, “Good for me, but not for thee”, kind of guy. That and a perpetual campaigner…

    And tonight he will drive that bus over the edge, confident that his soaring oratory and sonerous voice will somehow turn the crap sandwich of Obamacare into the salvation of our nation…

    Whaddaya bet he makes the ol’, “Our economy will continue to struggle until we reform health care”, tired rhetorical assertion?

    It’s so, so sweet that Palin got her op-ed out before his speech, to undercut the other tired meme; that RethugliKKKanz offer no ideas, but only play the spoiler…

  22. Comment by Joe on 9/9 @ 7:53 am #

    serr8d, I do not know. When I brought up the hypocrisy of Patterico crying about how he was banned from various sites, he pulled a Charles Johnson and banned me. Whether Jeff G. is still banned or not I do not see that bridge being rebuilt.

  23. Comment by sdferr on 9/9 @ 7:56 am #

    The NYT once again demonstrates it knows how to maintain silence when it believes publishing information in its possession might endanger someone it cares about.

    So I guess that must mean the Times thought no-one would be in any danger when it published highly classified National Security information, huh? Oh, wait, there is also the possibility that the Times simply didn’t have a care for those who would fall in danger on account of their publication.

  24. Comment by Salt Lick on 9/9 @ 7:59 am #

    It’s so, so sweet that Palin got her op-ed out before his speech,

    Kinda odd how effective she’s been at getting Obama all wee-weed up, eh Bob? For someone who’s dismissed as no threat and all.

  25. Comment by BJTexs on 9/9 @ 8:03 am #

    From Bob Reed’s link:

    Instead of poll-driven “solutions,” let’s talk about real health-care reform: market-oriented, patient-centered, and result-driven. As the Cato Institute’s Michael Cannon and others have argued, such policies include giving all individuals the same tax benefits received by those who get coverage through their employers; providing Medicare recipients with vouchers that allow them to purchase their own coverage; reforming tort laws to potentially save billions each year in wasteful spending; and changing costly state regulations to allow people to buy insurance across state lines. Rather than another top-down government plan, let’s give Americans control over their own health care.

    What the heck is wrong with the moose dressing hick-seed from Alaska? Give Americans control?!?! To make their own decisions?!?! Results driven?!?! What country does she think we live in? HARRY AND NANCY HAVE THE VOTES,’THUGS. OBAMA WILL SPEAK AND THEN YOUR BETTERS WILL MAKE THAT DECISION!!!

    It’s really, really, really not funny.

  26. Comment by sdferr on 9/9 @ 8:09 am #

    Best of all is the imposition of penalty fines should some benighted souls not get on board with the majority opinion. Your government is here to help, after all.

    For taxpayers with incomes above 300% of poverty, the penalty starts at $950 a year and reaches as high as $3,800 for families. Nearly 12 million people fit in this category, according to the National Institute for Health Care Management.

    The idea behind the penalty is that those who can afford insurance but don’t buy it are imposing costs on the entire health system. Under the proposal, nearly 12 million people who currently have no insurance could be subject to such fines, according to figures compiled by the National Institute for Health Care Management.

    You will obey.

  27. Comment by sdferr on 9/9 @ 8:09 am #

    Linky-dink.

  28. Comment by maggie katzen on 9/9 @ 8:13 am #

    Nearly 12 million people fit in this category, according to the National Institute for Health Care Management.

    would they happen to be part of that “47 million” we’re always hearing about?

  29. Comment by Joe on 9/9 @ 8:15 am #

    IN THE BEGINNING

    In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth. And the Earth was without form, and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And Satan said, “It doesn’t get any better than this.”

    And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit,” and God saw that it was good.

    And Satan said, “There goes the neighborhood.”

    And God said, “Let us make Man in our image, after our likeness, and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air and over the cattle, and over all the Earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the Earth.”

    And so God created Man in his own image; male and female he created them. And God looked upon Man and Woman and saw that they were lean and fit.

    And Satan said, “I know how I can get back in this game.”

    And God populated the earth with broccoli and cauliflower and spinach, green and yellow vegetables of all kinds, so Man and Woman would live long and healthy lives.

    And Satan created McDonald’s. And McDonald’s brought forth the 99-cent double cheeseburger. And Satan said to Man, “You want fries with that?”

    And Man said, “Supersize them.” And Man gained 5 pounds.

    And God created the healthful yogurt, that woman might keep her figure that man found so fair.

    And Satan brought forth chocolate. And Woman gained 5 pounds.

    And God said, “Try my crispy fresh salad.”

    And Satan brought forth Ben and Jerry’s. And Woman gained 10 pounds.

    And God said, “I have sent thee heart-healthy vegetables and olive oil with which to cook them.”

    And Satan brought forth chicken-fried steak so big it needed its own platter. And Man gained 10 pounds and his bad cholesterol went through the roof.

    And God brought forth running shoes and Man resolved to lose those extra pounds.

    And Satan brought forth cable TV with remote control so Man would not have to toil to change channels between ESPN and ESPN2. And Man gained another 20 pounds.

    And God said, “You’re running up the score, Devil.” And God brought forth the potato, a vegetable naturally low in fat and brimming with nutrition.

    And Satan peeled off the healthful skin and sliced the starchy center into chips and deep-fat fried them. And he created sour cream dip also. And Man clutched his remote control and ate the potato chips swaddled in cholesterol. And Satan saw and said, “It is good.” And Man went into cardiac arrest.

    And God sighed and created quadruple bypass surgery.

    And Satan created HMO’s………..

  30. Comment by TheGeezer on 9/9 @ 8:16 am #

    Kinda odd how effective she’s been at getting Obama all wee-weed up, eh Bob? For someone who’s dismissed as no threat and all.

    The hateful invective leveled at her is amazing. I haven’t seen or heard crap like that since Reagan, which, of course, means that she touches libs where they dread it the most: the truth always hurts the most in unicorn-liberal-land. I hope she keeps it up. I’ve always enjoyed hearing liberal heads exploding…and the post-Obama-speech Tea Party in Washington Saturday will surely make many blow up.

    BJ, how the heck have you been?

  31. Comment by BJTexs on 9/9 @ 8:21 am #

    The idea behind the penalty is that those who can afford insurance but don’t buy it are imposing costs on the entire health system.

    Those sounds you hear are the ghosts of John Adams and Thomas Jefferson weeping.

    Failure to purchase something you perceive you do not to need imposes costs on everybody else.

    Somebody look out their window. Is the sky still blue?

  32. Comment by Joe on 9/9 @ 8:34 am #

    Barack Obama went jogging one morning and came upon the Washington monument. He said, “George, what should I do?” After a few seconds George replied, “Abolish the IRS and start over.” George thought about this for a few seconds and continued jogging.

    Shortly he came upon the Jefferson Memorial and stopped. He said “Tom, what should I do?” After a few seconds Tom replied, “Abolish welfare and start over.”

    Obama continued jogging after thinking about this and came upon the Lincoln Memorial. He said, “Abe, what should I do?” After a few seconds Abe replied “Why don’t you take the night off and go to the theater?”

  33. Comment by Joe on 9/9 @ 8:36 am #

    A woman applying for a job in a Florida lemon grove seemed to be far too qualified for the job.

    The foreman frowned and said, “I have to ask you this; “Have you had any actual experience in picking lemons?”

    “Well, as a matter of fact, I have!” she replied.

    “I’ve been divorced three times, owned 2 Plymouths, and I voted for Obama.”

  34. Comment by Pablo on 9/9 @ 8:45 am #

    The idea behind the penalty is that those who can afford insurance but don’t buy it are imposing costs on the entire health system.

    “Imposing costs” by virtue of not subsidizing those who take more out than they put in.

  35. Comment by alppuccino on 9/9 @ 8:53 am #

    That’s it, I’m learning Chinese.

    Start with “DON’T SHOOT!!”

  36. Comment by Joe on 9/9 @ 9:21 am #

    Obama Tonight: “I have good news and bad news. The good news is, we have enough money to pay for health care for everyone. The bad news is, that money is still out there in your pockets.”

  37. Comment by Joe on 9/9 @ 9:29 am #

    Q. How many Muslim extremists will it take to destroy America?
    A. None, American Liberals can do it all by themselves, thank you.

  38. Comment by sdferr on 9/9 @ 9:42 am #

    When you stop to think about it, Pres. Obama seems to be taking the same strategic approach this evening with the American people who reject his health care proposals as he has been taking with Anerica’s enemies such as Islamic jihadists or the government of Iran: he will charm them into agreement and co-operation with his words alone. He cannot hear their adamant insistence that they have already heard him and reject his principles ab initio.

    “You’ve a non-starter, Pres. Obama” they are saying. “We don’t want what you’re selling.”

    “Oh, but you will” he responds, “Just listen to this new shiny speech, you will fight one another to get my pig in a poke.”

    Doc Zero points to a crisis of confidence today. No surprise there when folks have awakened to find a Confidence Man in the White House.

  39. Comment by Snowcone on 9/9 @ 9:51 am #

    The Republicans are concerned about the national debt?

    You learn something new every day.

  40. Comment by Joe on 9/9 @ 9:55 am #

    Snowcone, Republicans and George W. Bush were weak on the deficit. But the Democrats and Barack Obama took over and showed the Republicans and Bush to be mere pikers in driving up debt.

    Now listen to something good. It may help you start thinking clearly.

  41. Comment by Ric Locke on 9/9 @ 9:56 am #

    Comment by Joe on 9/9 @ 8:34 am

    Please, please, in the name of God do not pursue that last thought. More here.

    Oh, and Snowcone — showing yourself as the exception that tests the rule, eh?

    Regards,
    Ric

  42. Comment by Joe on 9/9 @ 10:02 am #

    Ric, I do not in any way condone violence to Barack Obama. That joke was actually written for George W. Bush. I just changed the name to Obama.

  43. Comment by geoffb on 9/9 @ 10:03 am #

    Ric’s link. Something was wrong with the original for me anyways.

  44. Comment by Snowcone on 9/9 @ 10:07 am #

    showing yourself as the exception that tests the rule, eh?

    Are you saying you’re one of the few Republicans who favor balanced budgets, Ric?

    Where were you while George W. was doubling the national debt?

  45. Comment by Eben on 9/9 @ 10:08 am #

    The Republicans are concerned about the national debt?

    You learn something new every day.

    You’re as reliable as Old Faithful with the ‘yeah but you’re guy is just as bad as my guy’ defense.

    snowcone, proving stupid isn’t just for breakfast anymore.

  46. Comment by Eben on 9/9 @ 10:10 am #

    Are you saying you’re one of the few Republicans who favor balanced budgets, Ric?

    Where were you while George W. was doubling the national debt?

    If you had your head out of your arse you might have heard the couple of million conservatives lambasting George the Younger for his non-conservative policies.

  47. Comment by happyfeet on 9/9 @ 10:21 am #

    Barack Obama has turned our little country into a suck your dick for a dollar crack whore.

    It’s not how it was supposed to be.

  48. Comment by Snowcone on 9/9 @ 10:59 am #

    you might have heard the couple of million conservatives lambasting George the Younger

    That’s all well and good, Eben, but the real question is: “Did you vote for George W.?”

    And a second time?

    Then our huge national debt is your fault.

  49. Comment by McGehee on 9/9 @ 11:00 am #

    That joke was actually written for George W. Bush.

    A version of it was told about Nixon during the height of the Watergate scandal. I have become convinced it’s even older than that.

    Hell, it may have been told on Andrew Johnson, for all I know.

  50. Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 9/9 @ 11:10 am #

    Snowcone, you don’t actually have the faintest idea on how the federal government works, do you?

  51. Comment by cranky-d on 9/9 @ 11:11 am #

    Snowcone knows that the federal government can work for him, especially if he’s a deadbeat and wants to live off of money taken from productive citizens at gunpoint. That’s all that matters.

  52. Comment by maggie katzen on 9/9 @ 11:20 am #

    Then our huge national debt is your fault.

    oh, not anymores honey.

  53. Comment by Eben on 9/9 @ 11:21 am #

    Then our huge national debt is your fault.

    Yes, in the same way that 9/11 is my fault because I voted for Clinton who didn’t kill OBL when he had the chance. The Bay of Pigs was my Dad’s fault because he voted for JFK. And a budget deficit twice the size of Bush the Younger’s is your fault because you voted for Barry.

    Yes, if you vote for someone you are at fault for everything they proceed to do thereafter.

    You moron.

  54. Comment by cranky-d on 9/9 @ 11:29 am #

    The huge national debt is the fault of a bunch of people who think that money appears from nowhere and dammit they want their peace of the action, and the fault of politicians who are too afraid for their jobs to say no to the pork and cut spending back to where it should be. And our savior is doing his best to make Bush, who I thought spent money like a drunken sailor (btw, that’s fine with me if it’s your own money), look like a penny-pincher.

    Don’t worry, though. They will get out of this using inflation. And once the money is even more worthless than it is now, they can run the debt up even higher. Wheee!!

  55. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/9 @ 11:30 am #

    “#

    Comment by Snowcone on 9/9 @ 9:51 am #

    The Republicans are concerned about the national debt?

    You learn something new every day.”

    George Bush spent money like a drunken sailor.

    Barack O!bama spend money like a fucking coked up Armada.

  56. Comment by Eben on 9/9 @ 11:45 am #

    snowcone at fault for death of Marines

    I said it would happen, and only recently “officials” have admitted that the new Afghanistan ROE have opened up new space for the insurgents. Now it has cost the lives of four more U.S. Marines. How many more Marines will have to die before this issue is addressed? The new ROE should have been dealt with as a classified memorandum of encouragement and understanding to consider holistic consequences of actions rather than a change to formal rules by which our Marines and Soldiers are prosecuted by courts. Yet the damage has been and continues to be done by poor decisions at the highest levels of leadership.

    Damn the ROE.

    ROE’s approved by the CIC, a.k.a Barry O. You voted for him so you’re at fault for every soldier/Marine that dies in Afghanistan or Iraq until he does the right thing and pulls them out.

    See how stupid you are.

  57. Comment by louchette, back from the void on 9/9 @ 12:11 pm #

    close the thread. feets won. =P

    ya know, as much as i hate all this and all the people responsible on classic liberal grounds i am really looking forward to the war on fatasses. *rubs hands together with villianous glee* and it is going to bring me endless joy to watch the gluttonous, entitlement whoring, self-esteem whoring, discipline challenged, magical thinking piglets of generation XXXL suffer. pretty movie stars hurt their grotesquely inflated self-esteem about their grotesquely distorted bodies? wait till they meet the obesity police. and they will. cuz making all the porkers slim down is the easiest way to, you should excuse the expression, take a load off the medical system. and she of the overrated arms has already said she wants war, and i assume war on fatties she shall get. all in due time kiddies, all in due time.

    shut up. i’m trying to find a silver lining here. =P

  58. Comment by Snowcone on 9/9 @ 12:12 pm #

    until he does the right thing and pulls them out.

    You and I are in agreement on this, Eben.

  59. Comment by JD on 9/9 @ 12:17 pm #

    Snowplow really is a mental midget, no?

  60. Comment by Eben on 9/9 @ 12:26 pm #

    You and I are in agreement on this, Eben.

    When it comes to mental vacuity you are a freaking legend.

  61. Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 9/9 @ 12:29 pm #

    Pass the f*king bill Snow (cough) blowjob.

    Pass it. You have the majority. You don’t need petitions.

    Do it like nike, “just pass it”.
    Do it like the milk board, “got single payer”?
    Do it like Coca cola, “I wanna buy the world some healthcare”.
    Do it like Chevrolet, “the healthcare of America”.
    Do it like Arbys, “wheres the healthcare”.
    Do it like Ricola, “P A S S IT, P A S S IT, P A S S IT”
    Do it like Shamwow baby “You’d be crazy not to pass it, it sells itself”.

  62. Comment by JD on 9/9 @ 12:31 pm #

    Maybe snowcone can be the first to explain how if Bush’s spending was horrible, why Barcky,s is good. Bonus points if it explains the trillions of dollars in unsustainable deficits as far as the eye can see for the Dems bastard of a healthcare reform plan.

  63. Comment by Pablo on 9/9 @ 12:33 pm #

    Nancy’s gone terrorist:

    Later in the day, Pelosi cut Hoyer off as he hedged about the need for a public option. “In order to pass a bill in the House, it must have a public option,” she said.

    Pelosi also warned insurance companies to accept a public option without a trigger, arguing that a public plan triggered by high premiums or other insurer bad behavior would be much harsher than one negotiated now.

    “They’d be better getting a public option now. … They’ll have a tougher public option to deal with later,” she said.

    In other news, Politico has gone clever, automatically adding a link to their site onto your clipboard when you C&P from there. I’ll make my own links, fellas.

  64. Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 9/9 @ 12:40 pm #

    Snow..cough) eatme..Cone

    You passed it yet?

    the f* you waitin for?

  65. Comment by BJTexs on 9/9 @ 12:44 pm #

    I’m in a nit picking mood so I’ll tell Old Texas Turkey that “Where’s the Health care” should be correctly placed with Wendy’s, not Arby’s.

    Oh, and Snowcone is the essence of obtuse and eats his own boogers.

    This has been your picking of nits moment….

  66. Comment by sdferr on 9/9 @ 12:45 pm #

    Nancy had better rethink her relationship with her troops. She may wake up one day with a live grenade-sans-pin in her lap, delivered by one of her own caucus-members who just isn’t down with her plan for him to march straight into that fusillade coming from his constituents back home.

  67. Comment by Snowcone on 9/9 @ 1:05 pm #

    JD,

    I have faith that America’s economy will grow enough to balance the federal budget without any new taxes.

  68. Comment by DarthRove on 9/9 @ 1:11 pm #

    I think Snowcone also has faith in the magical power of unicorn farts to bring whirled peas to everyone.

  69. Comment by McGehee on 9/9 @ 1:19 pm #

    If they’re emitting whirled peas, them ain’t farts.

  70. Comment by BJTexs on 9/9 @ 1:19 pm #

    Comment by Snowcone on 9/9 @ 1:05 pm #

    JD,

    I have faith that America’s economy will grow enough to balance the federal budget without any new taxes.

    BWAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

    {deep breath}

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA …. HOHOHOHOHOHO …HEEHEEHEEHEE WHOOOOOOOOO!

    {gasp, gasp, retch, gasp}

    Wow, I feel oddly … cleansed somehow. Good one, booger eater!

  71. Comment by RIP Ford on 9/9 @ 1:21 pm #

    “I have faith that America’s economy will grow enough to balance the federal budget without any new taxes.”

    Wow. Just wow.

  72. Comment by JD on 9/9 @ 1:39 pm #

    I have faith that snowplow’s brains resemble swirled peas atop a puree of parsnip and celery root.

  73. Comment by DarthRove on 9/9 @ 1:44 pm #

    Thought of a link Snowcone might enjoy while I was pondering Teh Yoonicorns of Hopenchange.

  74. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/9 @ 1:45 pm #

    “I have faith that America’s economy will grow enough to balance the federal budget without any new taxes.”

    Teh Stoopid™ is strong in this one, Obi-wan.

  75. Comment by JD on 9/9 @ 1:51 pm #

    http://www.reallynicerecipes.com/recipes/vegetables/pea-pureeFP.jpg

  76. Comment by royf on 9/9 @ 2:08 pm #

    Snowcone must have the New and Improved “Five Year Plan” straight from the email inbox.

  77. Comment by Blake on 9/9 @ 2:17 pm #

    I really really like Snowcone.

    If it weren’t for Snowcone’s posts, I’d be the slow one every pats on the head while saying “Now now, Blake, here’s a few coins, go play with them in the street.”

  78. Comment by Eben on 9/9 @ 2:26 pm #

    I have faith that America’s economy will grow enough to balance the federal budget without any new taxes.

    Freaking legend.

  79. Comment by JD on 9/9 @ 2:28 pm #

    That is balloon-fence grade stoopid.

    I am curious as to what business-friendly initiatives have been pursued that would lead to this utopia, blowcone.

  80. Comment by LTC John on 9/9 @ 2:37 pm #

    #79 – I predict some blather about “green jobs”. Nothing to back that up, mind you…

  81. Comment by Bob Reed on 9/9 @ 3:03 pm #

    Man, Palin’s health care op-ed in the WSJ has the administration and their fifth column in the fourth estate all wee-wee’d up…

    She’s the only Rethug! that they called out by name in the talking points for tonights Obamapalooza…

  82. Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 9/9 @ 3:10 pm #

    I have faith that America’s economy will grow enough to balance the federal budget without any new taxes.

    Well, he did say “faith”. No proof required.

    On a slightly related note, I’ve been re-reading “High Justice” by Jerry Pournelle.

    I really don’t wish to re-live the 1970’s. They sucked the first time around.

  83. Comment by BJTexs on 9/9 @ 3:14 pm #

    Well, there is the whole “Unicorn Farts for Clean Energy.” A boon to both bean farmers and weather balloon makers.

    Nobody wants the farm factory in their neighborhood though….

  84. Comment by dicentra on 9/9 @ 3:21 pm #

    In other news, on A Day Without Cats (09-09-09), this OUTLAW! will post a video of a cat who drinks water in the most insane way evar.

  85. Comment by geoffb on 9/9 @ 3:33 pm #

    “I have faith that America’s economy will grow enough to balance the federal budget without any new taxes.”

    Is it really a good idea to be posting threats to the entire Democratic Party delegation in Washington DC and the “moderates” from the Republicans? You are saying you know of some plan to forcibly remove them all from power and from DC right? Otherwise your “faith” is like pissing into the wind, gale force wind.

  86. Comment by JD on 9/9 @ 3:45 pm #

    I am going to give blowhole some credit. He thinks that not increasing taxes is integral to recovery, and a way to maintain, if not increase revenues. So, he is only 98% idiot.

  87. Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 9/9 @ 4:04 pm #

    BJ Tejas …. yes thanks for the nitpick.

    Was she the same lady in “Throw Mamma from the Train”?

    anyways …

    Snojob – wheres my free healthcare ‘n shit? Get Nancy to whack the Gavel. So shall it be said, so shall it be Sparticus and all. C’mon man.

  88. Comment by Bob Reed on 9/9 @ 4:05 pm #

    Dicentra, that video was hilarious!

  89. Comment by Jeffersonian on 9/9 @ 4:07 pm #

    I’ve got a real problem here. See, I’ve been buying five HDTVs a month for the past couple of years, and it’s absolutely broken me and my family. We have no more savings, no more investments, three mortgages on the house, the plastic’s max’ed out and the repo man is coming for the car tomorrow.

    So I’ve turned over a new leaf and am doing something smart: I’ve negotiated a deal with the local Best Buy to sell me the HDTVs at a 40% discount, and all I have to do is buy 50 of them a month. Now THAT’s what I call cost savings!!

  90. Comment by JD on 9/9 @ 4:16 pm #

    Jeffersonian – It is simple. You simply need to spend more to fix your over-spending.

  91. Comment by JD on 9/9 @ 4:17 pm #

    BTW, Jeffersonian, can I come over to your house to watch football this weekend?

  92. Comment by Joe on 9/9 @ 4:18 pm #

    dicentra, great cat clip. I do not generally care for cats, but that one is okay.

    Talking about cats, here is a PUMA on the prowl. An unconfirmed report but still, hmmmmmmmm.

  93. Comment by SBP on 9/9 @ 4:35 pm #

    Snotcone went back in the troll bin. Again.

    Someone let me know if he ever comes up with anything besides “BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!”, okay?

  94. Comment by JD on 9/9 @ 4:37 pm #

    Will we finally get the Giuliani/Shrillary match-up in NY?

  95. Comment by Jeffersonian on 9/9 @ 4:39 pm #

    Indeed, JD, you would be shocked at how much money I’m saving now. C’mon over, we’re having ice water and government cheese for the big game.

  96. Comment by sdferr on 9/9 @ 4:39 pm #

    For those who care for such things, there’s a new Bill Whittle Afterburner commentary up, riffing off of Tom Sowell’s A Conflict of Visions. It’s good, though not quite as good as his last couple of pieces. h/t Insty who has the link.

  97. Comment by royf on 9/9 @ 4:42 pm #

    Sarah just responded to the White House talking points and its a big shot across both Obama’s and the media’s bow.

    Link


    Response to the White House

    Today at 2:55pm
    I’m pleased that the White House is finally responding to Republican health care ideas instead of pretending they don’t exist.[1] But in doing so President Obama should follow his own sound advice and avoid making “wild misrepresentations”.[2] Medicare vouchers would give everyone on Medicare the chance to decide for themselves which health plan to use, rather than leave that decision to government bureaucrats. Such proposals are the kind of health care reform that Republicans stand for: market-oriented, patient-centered, and result-driven.

    The White House talking points leave the rest of my arguments unanswered. They don’t respond to the idea that all individuals should get the same tax benefits received by those who get coverage through their employers; that we must reform our tort laws; and that we should allow Americans to buy insurance across state lines. The White House also fails to respond to the Nyce/Schieber study indicating that wages will fall if the government expands coverage without reducing health care inflation rates.

    One last thing: after President Obama’s speech tonight, listen for which pundits use the words “false”, “scary”, and “risky” in describing the proposals I put forward. That’s how you’ll be able to tell who the White House counted as “allies” worthy of receiving its talking points.

    -Sarah Palin

  98. Comment by JD on 9/9 @ 4:55 pm #

    Jeffersonian – Ice water is fine and cheese should be a food group just like bacon. Couple that with your 74 HD’s and that is football heaven. Plus, you aren’t a dirty little socialist.

  99. Comment by Snowcone on 9/9 @ 5:31 pm #

    Hahaha,

    Probability that Sarah Palin has read the “Nyce/Schieber study?”

    I bet she’s just renting her name out to the hacks at Cato and AEI.

  100. Comment by Bob Reed on 9/9 @ 5:40 pm #

    JD,
    Your wish will be answered, in my humble opinion; Giuliani vs. Hillz will be sooooo on next year…

    So, stock up on popcorn now!

  101. Comment by Abe Froman on 9/9 @ 5:41 pm #

    Hahaha,

    Probability that Sarah Palin has read the “Nyce/Schieber study?”

    I bet she’s just renting her name out to the hacks at Cato and AEI.

    I don’t care if she wrote it or not. The beauty of having her name attached is that the left is stupid enough to disseminate it far and wide because you’re all obsessed with her.

  102. Comment by Bob Reed on 9/9 @ 5:43 pm #

    Why does just the mention of her name get lefties all wee wee’d up..?

    You can smell the fear…

  103. Comment by newrouter on 9/9 @ 5:43 pm #

    Probability that Sarah Palin has read the “Nyce/Schieber study?”

    probably greater than O!’s reading of hr 3200

  104. Comment by sdferr on 9/9 @ 5:53 pm #

    So, any bets on a Sec. of State Richard Lugar should Hillary go? He’s Obama’s huckleberry.

  105. Comment by Snowcone on 9/9 @ 5:57 pm #

    The beauty of having her name attached is that the left is stupid enough to disseminate it far and wide because you’re all obsessed with her.

    It also means the next time her handlers let her talk to a real journalist she’ll get asked about it.

    Which means she’s trapped in the wingnut “news” ghetto for the foreseeable future.

    Which was probably her publicity team’s plan all along.

    Which is sad because I miss her malapropisms.

  106. Comment by No one you know on 9/9 @ 6:10 pm #

    Which is sad because I miss her malapropisms.

    Yeah, I don’t know what the word is in Austrian, but she sure do talk funny. Happy Cinco de Quatro everyone. Hope I don’t get all wee weed up, here. I swear sometimes it feels like the Special Olympics in the West wing.

  107. Comment by Darleen on 9/9 @ 6:10 pm #

    open thread now for The One and his teleprompter’s speech

  108. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/9 @ 6:13 pm #

    Comment by dicentra on 9/9 @ 3:21 pm #

    The cat’s name is “Snowcone”

  109. Comment by Abe Froman on 9/9 @ 6:14 pm #

    Which is sad because I miss her malapropisms.

    Yeah. It really sucks the way the White House hides VICE PRESIDENT Joe Biden, doesn’t it?

  110. Comment by Rusty on 9/9 @ 6:16 pm #

    67.Comment by Snowcone on 9/9 @ 1:05 pm #

    JD,

    I have faith that America’s economy will grow enough to balance the federal budget without any new taxes.

    Now that’s just precious.

  111. Comment by Eben on 9/9 @ 6:18 pm #

    Yet more cognitive dissonance from snotcone. For every gaffe Palin, a private citizen, makes, Biden, an elected official, makes 10. Some so retarded it causes an international kerfuffle. Yet you focus on Palin like a laser beam.

    Tell me snotcone, what color is the sky in the world that you live in?

  112. Comment by Eben on 9/9 @ 6:24 pm #

    Man this speech is classic Bush so far. In order to invade Iraq he had to whip up the people with his fear mongering and scare tactics. Now we have Obama making calls from the Bush playbook, again lol.

    Barry O “Man, I can’t persuade anyone to get on board with this so I’m going to scare ‘em into it! Hell, it worked for Bushitler and my TelePrompTer skillz are way more l33t than his!”

  113. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/9 @ 6:45 pm #

    “I bet she’s just renting her name out to the hacks at Cato and AEI.”

    Which is better what you do, rent your ass out on Saturday nights.

  114. Comment by N. O'Brain on 9/9 @ 6:48 pm #

    BTW, snotcone, what’s next, Trig-erism?

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  116. Comment by maggie katzen on 9/9 @ 7:42 pm #

    oh,I see someone got the latest journolist email.

  117. Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 9/9 @ 8:12 pm #

    Hacks at Cato? Fuck, snowcone, you’re really, really out of your depth, here. And JD. That 98% stupid is industrial grade. This one could be the nadir, or apex, depends on your perspective I guess, of PW trolls. Just unbelievably dumb.

  118. Comment by m funes on 9/9 @ 8:36 pm #

    I guess the H word is also a screw up with how the US government (to name a few, Obama, clinton, oh and Chavez, but hey, he’s not in the US Government YET! he soon will be!) is dealing with Honduras…what the f..k has it got to do with anyone apart from Honduras and Mel the cocaine addict, Chavez puppet, traitor to Honduras…the people don’t want him and these idiots are asking him to be re-instead??? all I can say is that I see the same happening in the USA,with Chavez. He called Obama a Negro on TV (to be politically correct) and Obama takes his side against the Honduran Democracy and Obama does and says nothing!!! at least George BusH had balls because Obama certainly does not have any… what a load of crap….watch for the signs and react as soon as possible…which president has removed “In God We Trust” from the National coins, changes the National Flag emblem on Airforce 1…ect, ect…decent people of the USA…I hope you don’t go through what he Hondurans are going through..just to live a free democratic life…..because I am sure you will agree the signs are starting to show….

  119. Comment by McGehee on 9/10 @ 7:51 am #

    That 98% stupid is industrial grade.

    I’m told it doesn’t get any purer than that unless you manufacture it in zero-G.

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