August 29, 2009
TKC Special Edition: using kiddie shields and prayers [Darleen Click] UPDATED


“For what my grandpa called the cause of his life, as he said so often, in every part of this land, that every American will have decent, quality healthcare as a fundamental right and not a privilege, we pray to the Lord.”

Words cannot begin to express my disgust at such an outrageous political pimping of a child at a Catholic funeral mass.

The Kennedys (Kara Kennedy Allen, I’m looking at you) should be ashamed. But in the land of Leftcult the personal is the political shame that would interfer with The Cause(tm) just doesn’t occur.

(h/t Gateway Pundit via geoffb)
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UPDATE:

And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. (Mt 6:5-6)

from Kat via email
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UPDATE II: choice words from AP

I’ve been informed by liberal amateur theologians that it’s perfectly kosher to pray for universal health care — on TV, in the middle of a national debate, at a funeral service ostensibly devoted to grieving over someone, by exploiting an innocent child — because, um, Jesus would have supported it. I’m happy to discover that the left’s decades of righteous outrage at Christian conservatives for mixing religion with politics was, as so much else is, simple partisan posturing, but I’m unfamiliar with the sermon where Jesus called for Caesar to create a public fund to heal the sick. Can any Bible aficionados help? Exit question: Anyone have any young’uns at home they’d be willing to volunteer to lead prayers at the next big GOP funeral? We might as well make use of the camera time while we have it. “Dear god, please grant us the strength to privatize social security and construct a robust missile defense shield. We pray to the Lord.”

Lord hear our prayer

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  1. Comment by sdferr on 8/29 @ 12:26 pm #

    I’ll bet those “abortions for all” provisions go over pretty well with the priestly types, huh?

  2. Comment by Abe Froman on 8/29 @ 12:28 pm #

    Awwwww. Wook at the wittle future drug addict, rapist, murderer, plane crasher, ski into a tree boy! I feel sorry for anyone born into that family.

  3. Comment by JD on 8/29 @ 12:29 pm #

    This is fucking disgusting. By the time this is all done, it will make Wellstone’s pep rally look respectful.

  4. Comment by Barry H. Obama on 8/29 @ 12:43 pm #

    Do it! Do it for the children! Do it for the trust fund babies!

  5. Comment by AJB on 8/29 @ 12:50 pm #

    Who cares.

  6. Comment by AJB on 8/29 @ 12:50 pm #

    Call me back when Palin stops pimping Trig.

  7. Comment by Darleen on 8/29 @ 12:52 pm #

    AJB

    Point out where Palin put any of her kids in front of a microphone to advocate partisan legislation.

    And your eugenics-based bigotry towards Trig is duly noted.

  8. Comment by Abe Froman on 8/29 @ 12:53 pm #

    It was only a matter of time before some moron injected Palin’s children into this.

  9. Comment by armadillo on 8/29 @ 12:55 pm #

    Say, some Kennedy-toady should volunteer to be a Senatorial placeholder for that kid. It’s a family tradition.

  10. Comment by Darleen on 8/29 @ 1:00 pm #

    Abe

    Palin having her family with her and come on stage after speeches is standard stuff done by all politicians. But the Left particularly hates a member of their declared pet minority demographics going off the reservation – so here is a woman, happily married (strike one), conservative and religious (two more strikes) a breeder (strike) of more than two children (strike) and she knowingly gave birth to a Down’s Syndrome baby and LOVES “IT”!!!! Oh the humanity!

  11. Comment by Carin on 8/29 @ 1:04 pm #

    Oh, for fuck’s sake …

  12. Comment by SpeakEasy on 8/29 @ 1:16 pm #

    They are just grooming him to be one of the next generation of A-holes panderers and political whores. If any of these jackasses ever had to work for a living they would probably not be liberals. What a waste. Teddy can burn in hell.

  13. Comment by Abe Froman on 8/29 @ 1:19 pm #

    That’s all abundantly obvious Darleen, but Palin “pimping her children” was merely a retro-fitted rationalization for their disgusting treatment of her children. With this little tragic-figure-in-waiting the disgustingly shameless pimping of him is the outrage itself. Only a dim-witted leftist would seek to conflate the two things.

  14. Comment by Sven Svenson on 8/29 @ 1:32 pm #

    It’s a Joe Kennedy family thing. Pimping little Max is no more morally filthy than to have “John-John” salute his daddy’s casket as it passed by. In a family of whores why should the kids not be whores too?

  15. Comment by ip on 8/29 @ 1:38 pm #

    Would Jesus deny healthcare to those who couldn’t afford it?

  16. Comment by Barry H. Obama on 8/29 @ 1:45 pm #

    “Would Jesus deny healthcare to those who couldn’t afford it?”

    8. “You shall not steal.
    10 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

  17. Comment by Barry H. Obama on 8/29 @ 1:46 pm #

    “Who cares.”

    Apparently you and the ip wee wee’r.

  18. Comment by Abe Froman on 8/29 @ 1:46 pm #

    Would Jesus deny healthcare to those who couldn’t afford it?

    The federal government isn’t Jesus. And in spite of stupid liberals who think otherwise, it isn’t Santa Claus either.

  19. Comment by Bob Reed on 8/29 @ 1:47 pm #

    Wow…Possibly a new high in lows for the cowardly left-wing Democrats…

    Earlier this year, they have an 11 year old girl act as Obama’s “straight man” at one of his Obamacare town hall meetings. Now, they resort to using Kennedy’s grandson to plug Obamacare; basically because none of them had the guts to do so, lest it be called Wellstonian…

    Anyone with half a brain realizes that some other adult wrote those words for the boy, like they were written for the 11 year old girl, unless, of course, they watch too many Disney shows with their kids. You know, the ones where young children are always sooooo much wiser and enlightened than adults. In that same fashion, someone wrote under Teddy’s auspices in the last few weeks urging Governor Patrick and the legislature to reverse the law Teddy had passed in 2004-lest Romney get to appoint a Senator in the event “Lurch” Kerry won the presidential election.

    All of these sordid details remind me of someone who continues to cash their eldery relatives social security checks for months after they’ve passed on. Let’s hope that the public realizes how equally slimy this performance is on many levels, or be too busy to watch…

    That all will see clearly the stilted attempt to play off of folks sympathies for the Kennedy family, for purely political gain, let us pray to the Lord.

  20. Comment by geoffb on 8/29 @ 1:47 pm #

    Out out Da** puppet.

  21. Comment by ip on 8/29 @ 1:49 pm #

    The Jesus I know is about caring for the weak, the poor, the disadvantaged. When it comes to Christian principles, some seem to make exceptions for politics, particularly in not helping their fellow Americans, (not to mention killing and torturing people).

  22. Comment by Stephen M on 8/29 @ 1:50 pm #

    @ ip on 8/29 @ 1:38 pm

    When Jesus chose to heal one but not ALL the lepers…
    he was demonstrating his conservative villainy?
    Douchebagsayswhat.

  23. Comment by geoffb on 8/29 @ 1:51 pm #

    “Call me back when Palin stops pimping Trig.”

    See the absolute beauty of this as an argument. If she goes anywhere with Trig she is “pimping” him. If on the other hand she shows up anywhere without Trig she will be neglecting him. Win, win.

  24. Comment by Abe Froman on 8/29 @ 1:55 pm #

    The Jesus I know is about caring for the weak, the poor, the disadvantaged. When it comes to Christian principles, some seem to make exceptions for politics, particularly in not helping their fellow Americans, (not to mention killing and torturing people).

    Is that the Unitarian Universalist Jesus or the chocolatey Liberation Jesus?

  25. Comment by geoffb on 8/29 @ 1:57 pm #

    When the Left finally comes to the realization that the Government is not God and especially that their leader is not God, and does not speak for God, they will cease to be the Left.

  26. Comment by Bob Reed on 8/29 @ 1:58 pm #

    Hey ip, and all you other libs that would try to throw Christ’s quotes in our faces for political gain; here you go…

    Matthew 22:20-22 (King James Version)

    20And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?

    21They say unto him, Caesar’s. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s.

    22When they had heard these words, they marvelled, and left him, and went their way.

    Clearly Christ was talking about taxes versus love and loyalty to God, in his answer to the hypocrites trying to trip him up(Kinda like you all are doing)…

    This can be expanded upon though regarding health care. If you feel so strongly that the uninsured have a right to health care, I suggest that you purchase it for someone in need; if you’re wealthy, purchase it for a lot of folks. Because Christ often talks also about one’s personal obligation to charity, and never is seen telling Pilate or Herod that they should be providing for the populace…

    So, in answer to your assertion, Jesus would challenge you to individually try and help others, and through the societal momentum of all our individual actions help all who are in need. But he would not “order” the government to provide for the citizens…

    After all, another thing he says many times is that one should trust in God to provide for all of ones needs…

  27. Comment by Darleen on 8/29 @ 1:58 pm #

    The Jesus I know is about caring for the weak, the poor, the disadvantaged

    and not having the Government put a gun to Peter’s head in order to “serve” Paul is something the Jesus I know would support.

    caring for the weak/poor/disadvantaged is a moral duty and without choice there is no morality.

    No one is stopping you, “ip”, from opening your own wallet

    or are you like slo-Joe Biden?

  28. Comment by Joe on 8/29 @ 2:08 pm #

    Words cannot begin to express my disgust at such an outrageous political pimping of a child at a Catholic funeral mass.

    I share your disgust Darleen, but the Kennedys have been doing stunts like this since Joe Sr.

  29. Comment by Amanda Marcotte on 8/29 @ 2:13 pm #

    Damn xstianist god-botherers, keep the government off my bod……….
    Wait, what?

  30. Comment by Kat on 8/29 @ 2:15 pm #

    And again, in support of Darleen (and thank you for the hat tip, my friend!), Christ’s words were for individuals. I do agree that the Church (the catholic – in the proper sense of “orthodox and worldwide” church) has fallen down on its job. It is NOT the job of the government (according to the Constitution) to offer succor to the poor and downtrodden. The government is to uphold and enforce the rule of law.

    I also want to make a caveat to the Scripture I gave Darleen: Christ is NOT forbidding public prayer. Rather, He is highlighting the motive behind the prayer. When you pray in public for your own personal aggrandizement and to promote your own motives and agenda, instead of to truly come before the Father in humility so you may pray with an unselfish heart submitted to His will.

    Does this always happen in the Christian community? Of course not. But that is the ideal. And to become a Christian REQUIRES you to admit and believe that you are a sinner who cannot please God apart from faith in His Son – so don’t give me any lip about hypocrisy in the Church (just because you visit a garage doesn’t mean you’re a car).

    Again, Darleen, thank you for the kind acknowledgment! {{{hugz}}}

  31. Comment by McGehee on 8/29 @ 2:23 pm #

    “Render unto Caesar” did not extend to one’s obligation to care for the less fortunate. That, Jesus held under the “render unto God” clause, as a personal responsibility rather than a collective one.

  32. Comment by ip on 8/29 @ 2:23 pm #

    When Jesus describes the final judgement and the seperation of the sheep and the goats, the left and the right, one of the main considerations is how you have treated the ill and those less capable than yourself. All of this can be found in Matthew 25:31-46
    “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

    45″He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

    46″Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

    YOU WILL be judged

  33. Comment by Ric Locke on 8/29 @ 2:26 pm #

    Y’know what, AJB and ip? If we could fool ourselves for one minute, as you obviously have, that the measures before the Congress would actually accomplish what you and others say they will, we’d either be behind them or accepting.

    They won’t. They can’t. Just to take one example, you claim that you can give “health care” to 47 million people — almost one-sixth of the total population — who don’t get it now, totally avoid any sort of rationing, and save money overall. It’s a lie. All three things are near-polar opposites of one another. If you accomplish any two, the third has to give, and give big. If you accomplish any one, the other two have to yield.

    And we have to believe you know that, especially since your “spokesmen” so frequently contradict Teh Narrative in public. It’s clear to anybody who looks that the forty-seven million is a lie — most of that is either structural or due to people’s own decisions that they don’t need “insurance”, and if you took the ten million or so that really are deprived and just put them on Medicare/Medicaid it would cost maybe one one-hundredth of what you propose to spend. All of the public spokespeople for it are either unapologetic eugenicists or supporters of “death with dignity”, i.e., sorry, Grandma, your hip replacement isn’t cost-effective for the society; the few that don’t say so in public can be looked up on the Internet, where you’ll find that they’ve proposed such things in the past. And nobody, but nobody, believes either that you can save any money or even that you want to.

    So go ahead. Dazzle us with your Pharisaic faux “sincerity”. It merely establishes that you are either lying or too ignorant to pound sand — dupe or duplicitous; take your pick.

    Regards,
    Ric

  34. Comment by Darleen on 8/29 @ 2:27 pm #

    ip

    I’m ready to be judged… I did not steal from my neighbor to fulfill my moral obligations.

    you advocation of stealing for “a good cause” when you don’t individually do anything doesn’t bode well for your judgment.

  35. Comment by Carin on 8/29 @ 2:44 pm #

    he Jesus I know is about caring for the weak, the poor, the disadvantaged. When it comes to Christian principles, some seem to make exceptions for politics, particularly in not helping their fellow Americans, (not to mention killing and torturing people).

    Sadly, ip, as we’ve been reminded AGAIN and AGAIN we are not a Christian country. Ironic that you want to wipe out every iota of God and Jesus from every sphere of public life, and then you have the NERVE to come and say this shit.

    Amazing.

  36. Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/29 @ 2:49 pm #

    “Comment by AJB on 8/29 @ 12:50 pm #

    Call me back when Palin stops pimping Trig.”

    Link, please.

  37. Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/29 @ 2:49 pm #

    Oh, I forgot: you fucking liar.

  38. Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/29 @ 2:58 pm #

    “Comment by ip on 8/29 @ 1:49 pm #

    The Jesus I know…”

    You don’t know much then, do you, packet boy?

  39. Comment by Carin on 8/29 @ 2:59 pm #

    I mean, if dems are gonna start demanding that we adhere to the bible … how ’bout this one:

    Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, robbers—none of these will inherit the kingdom of God.”

    Oops, I think a few people are gonna be in trouble …

    Or this one :

    You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination”.

  40. Comment by Abe Froman on 8/29 @ 3:00 pm #

    He has the nerve, Carin, because the religious angle is part of the next iteration of shit the left is throwing against the wall and ip is a dutiful messenger sheep. As someone who last went to church for Confirmation and even at that attended for years mainly because my CYO basketball coach required it, I can’t help but note the absurdity of employing the religion angle while they’re canonizing a man whose fat-laden carcass will sizzle in hell for his personal conduct.

  41. Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/29 @ 3:00 pm #

    “A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.”

    -G.B. Shaw

  42. Comment by cranky-d on 8/29 @ 3:01 pm #

    I can practically guarantee that any of the trolls trying to use Christianity to drive us deeper into slavery to the government know nothing about Christianity or Christian principles. They just think, for some insane reason, that it will persuade us. Therefore, they think we are as ignorant as they are.

  43. Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/29 @ 3:02 pm #

    “YOU WILL be judged”

    Ok.

    You’re a moron.

  44. Comment by cranky-d on 8/29 @ 3:03 pm #

    #39

    drunkards

    Crap. Well, I guess I’ll be seeing old Teddy some day, then.

  45. Comment by Carin on 8/29 @ 3:05 pm #

    It’s funny, ’cause most church-going folk are pretty much aware of how much they do do help each other. I volunteered at a Catholic church in downtown Detroit that not only offered hot meals, clothes, and BOOKS (in a little store-like set-up), but also had convinced doctors to volunteer their time. They had a whole clinic set-up for the homeless. They even had a dentist.

    all w/o the government help.

    Just those hypocritical religious folks.

  46. Comment by Carin on 8/29 @ 3:07 pm #

    REally, I’m thinking that Teddy is in big trouble.

    Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, robbers

    I’m thinking he’s guilty of at least 6 of these things.

  47. Comment by cranky-d on 8/29 @ 3:09 pm #

    You cannot call anything a “right” if it requires someone else to sacrifice any of his life or liberty to provide for that “right.” Therefore, receiving health care is not a right. I’m not saying anyone claimed it was, but one of the trolls will if he hasn’t already.

    Gagdad Bob had an article recently which argued that the natural state of man is basically communist (in small groups, be it families or hunter-gatherer groups, you would tend to feed everyone whether they earned it or not, and the humans that didn’t do that didn’t survive). We didn’t start doing better for ourselves until we put those natural inclinations aside. The deeper we go into socialism, the closer we get to our primitive roots. They ultimately want us mostly dead, with the remaining survivors to be hunter-gatherers again.

  48. Comment by cranky-d on 8/29 @ 3:17 pm #

    The point is, all the socialists/communists think they are trying a “new” idea when the fact is, the idea is as old as humanity. Putting such ideas aside raised us higher. The ideals of this country raised us higher still, and now they want us to sink back down again.

  49. Comment by Ric Locke on 8/29 @ 3:18 pm #

    cranky-d, you (and GB) are of course correct, but it goes deeper than that.

    In a hunter-gatherer-scavenger society, food is where you find it; nothing the people can do either increases or decreases the supply — whatever chance or the gods provide is it.

    If you’ll notice, behind every Leftoid proposal is the unstated assumption of abundance. Everything that’s needed is out there somewhere; the only thing that has to be done is find it and share it out. And if you notice — every Leftoid I’ve ever encountered, certainly the majority nowadays, is a middle-class or better person for whom that assumption is facially true. They can have pretty much what they want — the grocery store is well-stocked and the credit card has plenty of slack left. And especially in the case of the academic Leftoids, they know damn well that nothing they do increases the wealth of society — and they still get rewarded for it with a middle-class or better lifestyle.

    It’s a modern version of the hunter-gatherer-scavenger lifestyle. Everything’s out there, and nothing they do increases (or, in their unconscious assumptions, decreases) the supply.

    Of course, in an agricultural or industrial economy that assumption — especially the unconscious part — is not only wrong but destructive. That’s where they’re coming from, though. Makes it really, really ironic that they call themselves “Progressive”, since they’re making assumptions and basic policy on them that haven’t been true since before the Stone Age.

    Regards,
    Ric

  50. Comment by SBP on 8/29 @ 3:34 pm #

    Call me back when Palin….

    Buh-bye.

  51. Comment by SBP on 8/29 @ 3:37 pm #

    No one is stopping you, “ip”, from opening your own wallet

    Sure. Maybe it’ll be as generous as all of the other bigshot Dems.

  52. Comment by Joe on 8/29 @ 3:42 pm #

    The next 100 years. Nothing to do with the Kennedys, since that family’s subsequent issue has not maintained the combination of talent, balls, and ambition of Joe Sr, John and Bobby, rather following Teddy in general corpulent decadence and malaise, but what the heck, the article has a certain Belmont Club ring to it.

  53. Comment by David R. Block on 8/29 @ 3:43 pm #

    Would Jesus deny healthcare to those who couldn’t afford it?

    Well, let’s see. He didn’t heal everybody in the whole world, because He didn’t heal everybody in Galilee and Judea, much less Samaria. But He didn’t charge anything either, so apples and oranges. Jesus got “paid” like an itinerant minister, by donations, not by forced taxation.

    “There is no virtue in compulsory government charity, and there is no virtue in advocating it. A politician who portrays himself as “caring” and “sensitive” because he wants to expand the government’s charitable programs is merely saying that he’s willing to try to do good with other people’s money. Well, who isn’t? And a voter who takes pride in supporting such programs is telling us that he’ll do good with his own money — if a gun is held to his head.”–P.J. O’Rourke

    Most doctors don’t think that they are God. Some do, and all malpractice lawyers think that doctors are God, too, because they try to sue the doctors into bankruptcy for errors large and small. If they’re supposed to be perfect, then they must be God according to the malpractice leeches.

    As far as IP in #32 is concerned:

    You will be rewarded for your voluntary deeds. However, there is a warning:

    Mat 6:1 NASB “Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.”

    So you’re not going to see me (or anyone else around here) doing anything to impress little ol’ ip.

    Mat 26:11 NASB “For you always have the poor with you; but you do not always have Me.”

    So He didn’t wipe out poverty either.

  54. Comment by SBP on 8/29 @ 3:51 pm #

    So you’re not going to see me (or anyone else around here) doing anything to impress little ol’ ip.

    I’ve got Idiot Pedant ‘hammered, but it might be interested in this.

    Money quotes:

    The data show that at every income level, self-identified conservatives donate more than self-identified liberals, despite the fact that liberals average 6% more income. The difference remains even if we look at registered party affiliation rather than self-identification. And this difference holds for nonmonetary donation, such as donations of blood. Young liberals turn out to be one of the least generous groups of people. Liberals younger than 30 belong to roughly a third fewer community organizations, give about a third less blood, and donate over a tenth less to charity than young conservatives.

    To put it bluntly: red-state America is more charitable than blue-state America. States that voted for Bush by 60% or better gave an average of 3.5% of household income to charity; states that voted for Kerry by 60% or more gave 1.9%. People in the top five Bush states were more than 50% more likely to volunteer to help others, and twice as likely to volunteer to help the poor, than people in the top five Kerry states.

    This difference continues when we take out of the comparison donations made to religious causes. The religious are more likely to give to nonreligious charities (such as the United Way) than are the secular (71% to 61%) and are more likely to volunteer (60% to 39%). They give 14% more money. They are also more likely to give to family and friends, and give in much higher amounts (46% higher).

    …he raises the question of whether people who favor the forced redistribution of income by government (“redistributionists,” estimated by one large 1996 survey at 33%) give more to charity than people who oppose government redistribution (“nonredistributionists,” about 43% in the same survey). The answer is — drum roll, please! — Hell, no!

    Nonredistributionists give four times more money to charity than redistributionists. The gap remains even when you look at donations to nonreligious charities. Nonredistributionists give three and a half times more to such charities than do redistributionists.

  55. Comment by Joe on 8/29 @ 4:00 pm #

    Can’t Obama go out and heal the sick with the power of his will alone?

    Alternatively, Michelle O. could just beat the sick to death with her massive guns.

  56. Comment by guinsPen on 8/29 @ 4:01 pm #

    generous as all of the other bigshot Dems.

    Consider the case of Andrew Cuomo, current New York Attorney General and advocate for the homeless. He has, according to his website, “compassion toward the most vulnerable of us.” And this is how the New York Times described the courtship of Kerry Kennedy (of guess which family): “Ms. Kennedy-Cuomo, 43, said she fell in love with Mr. Cuomo, 45, when he took her on a tour of a homeless shelter on their first date and agreed to fast for the labor leader Cesar Chavez.”

    But that advocacy should not be confused with actually giving to the less fortunate. Cuomo was a homeless advocate throughout the 1990s, but according to his own tax returns he made no charitable contributions between 1996 and 1999. In 2000 he donated a whopping $2,750. In 2004 and 2005, Cuomo had more than $1.5 million in adjusted gross income but gave a paltry $2,000 to charity.

    Cuomo made no charitable contributions in 2003, when his income was a bit less than $300,000.

  57. Comment by Joe on 8/29 @ 4:29 pm #

    guinsPen, funny how these Liberals never give on their own. I guess that is why they like taxes so much, they just assume that is the only way to get money to these causes.

  58. Comment by CBDenver on 8/29 @ 4:30 pm #

    Ric (#49) said “If you’ll notice, behind every Leftoid proposal is the unstated assumption of abundance.” Very astute observation. Leftists cannibalize what others have built and produced. When they “run out of other people’s money” they will be lost.

  59. Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/29 @ 4:33 pm #

    “If you’ll notice, behind every Leftoid proposal is the unstated assumption of abundance.”

    Who is John Galt?

  60. Comment by Rusty on 8/29 @ 4:53 pm #

    #32
    Study the meaning of the word ‘charity’ and then come back here and we’ll discuss theology.

  61. Comment by Rusty on 8/29 @ 4:53 pm #

    Oh. an id, the government isn’t jesus.

  62. Comment by B Moe on 8/29 @ 5:04 pm #

    When it comes to Christian principles, some seem to make exceptions for politics…

    Starting with Christ himself.

    This is one of my favorite Bible passages, by the way:

    And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. (Mt 6:5-6)

    It is immediately preceding the Lord’s Prayer, and more folks need to remember that.

  63. Comment by serr8d on 8/29 @ 5:48 pm #

    It is up to God to judge Senator Kennedy’s soul. We, as rational persons, must judge his actions, and his actions were not at all in line with one who values and carefully applies Church teaching on weighty matters. Ted Kennedy’s positions on a variety of issues have been a grave scandal for decades, and to honor this “catholic” champion of the culture of death with a Catholic funeral is unjust to those who have actually paid the price of fidelity. We now find out that President Obama will eulogize the Senator at his funeral—an indignity which, following on the heels of the Notre Dame fiasco, leaves faithful Catholics feeling sullied, desecrated and dehumanized by men who seem to look for opportunities to slap the Church in the face and do so with impunity simply because they have positions of power.

    Well, that had to sting.

    But not as much as it should have. I’m carrying around a sneaking suspicion that most liberals (and all leftists) who actually give a nod to religion, do so for social benefits only. Have they thrown out God, and elevated their puny selves to that position? Seems so to me.

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  67. Comment by deddy kennedy on 8/29 @ 6:16 pm #

    Anyone remember what Jesus said about hypocrites?

    ~ ‘riCo ~

    *hic*

  68. Comment by SDN on 8/29 @ 6:16 pm #

    And, of course, there’s always my little cautionary tale from the book of Acts:

    We have at least one clear description of the failure of Communism under optimal conditions. I refer, of course, to the Book of Acts, 4:32 – 5:11, Ananias and Sephira. NewLiving translation.

    1. There is no doubt that they are practicing the economic system of communism:”All the believers were of one heart and mind, and they felt that what they owned was not their own; they shared everything they had…There was no poverty among them, because people who owned land or houses sold them, and brought the money to the apostles to give to others in need.” From each according to his means, to each according to his need — Marx would have been proud to call them brother.

    2. They had as close to an incorruptible body of rulers as possible, who were proving their uprightness with miracles every day.

    3. And they had pretty close to the ultimate Auditor; when Ananais and Sephira try to cheat the system, Peter knows about it instantly, and the punishment is swift and sure: the cheaters are struck dead on the spot.

    And yet there were still cheaters, the apostles couldn’t hold it together for very long, and none of the other churches outside Jerusalem seem to have even tried it. If the 12 Apostles backed up by God couldn’t make communism work, how in the h*ll would any lesser mortals have a shot??

  69. Comment by serr8d on 8/29 @ 6:17 pm #

    American Commie? Now there’s a meaningless term. America would never have existed if she were commie. And won’t in the future, either.

  70. Comment by Rick on 8/29 @ 6:39 pm #

    “Call me back when Palin stops pimping Trig.”

    Stops? She never started. Does this technicality mean we don’t have to call AJB back? Cool!

    Cordially…

  71. Comment by Bob Reed on 8/29 @ 6:51 pm #

    As usual, Jonah Goldberg hit’s the nail right on the head…

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/08292009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/why_tedd_want_his_death_exploited_186965.htm

    Teddy would be proud!

  72. Comment by John Bradley on 8/29 @ 7:34 pm #

    “Ms. Kennedy-Cuomo, 43, said she fell in love with Mr. Cuomo, 45, when he took her on a tour of a homeless shelter on their first date and agreed to fast for the labor leader Cesar Chavez.”

    Not to swipe Mr. ‘feets schtick — but that’s the gayest damned thing I’ve ever heard.

  73. Comment by SBP on 8/29 @ 7:59 pm #

    American Commie is a pig-ignert dishonesy lying crapweasel.

    It’s probably still in a snit because its side lost the Cold War, and now it’ll NEVER get to be a mass murderer (not that it would have in any case — the faux intelligentsia were always the first ones sent to the camps, come the revolution, but we’re talking about someone who, like all cafe commies, has at best a tenuous grip on reality, and absolutely no knowledge of history).

    It must suck to realize that your side is down to North Korea and Cuba, neither of which will remain communist for more than about 30 seconds after their respective leaders begin their long-term dirt naps. I mean, these days even China is only pretending to be Communist out of fear of losing face.

    I guess AC will just have to keep on dreaming while making those frappucinos and trying to figure out how to pay the student loans he racked up to pay for his Transgender Studies degree, eh?

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  75. Comment by B Moe on 8/29 @ 8:08 pm #

    “Ms. Kennedy-Cuomo, 43, said she fell in love with Mr. Cuomo, 45, when he took her on a tour of a homeless shelter on their first date and agreed to fast for the labor leader Cesar Chavez.”

    Which is worse, than someone would say something like that, or that someone else would believe it?

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  77. Comment by Abe Froman on 8/29 @ 8:29 pm #

    Which is worse, than someone would say something like that, or that someone else would believe it?

    You mean to tell me that being a musician in Athens you’ve never blown lefty smoke up a girl’s ass to get laid? You’re a better man than I am.

  78. Comment by Darleen on 8/29 @ 8:33 pm #

    oh lord… SEK is dissembling (at #76)

    He doesn’t seem to know the difference between “discussing a man’s life’s work” and advocating for a partisan piece of legislation from the pulpit.

    Maybe he ought to know if a priest or pastor told his congregants to go out and VOTE for that legislation they would be in serious jeopardy of losing their tax status.

  79. Comment by SBP on 8/29 @ 8:45 pm #

    When does he not, Darleen?

    I haven’t been over there since they were accusing JD of being a racist (you know, the guy who’s actually married to, and has children with, someone of another race?).

  80. Comment by Darleen on 8/29 @ 8:48 pm #

    SBP

    from a Lefty’s lips the word “racist” has nothing to do with “racism”… it just means you dissent from Leftist dogma

    (Lefties are some of the most racist, bigoted and anti-semitic people around)

  81. Comment by SBP on 8/29 @ 8:52 pm #

    Right. I’d wager there isn’t a single black family in SEK’s neighborhood.

  82. Comment by JD on 8/29 @ 8:53 pm #

    SBP – That was pretty comical, wasn’t it.

    Darleen – I will save you abou 23,835 words. You are a racist wingnut that is politicizing the death of a great American. Rich Puchalasky, Karl “I swear I am not a fluffer” Steel, and the rest told me so.

  83. Comment by B Moe on 8/29 @ 9:09 pm #

    He doesn’t seem to know the difference between “discussing a man’s life’s work” and advocating for a partisan piece of legislation from the pulpit.

    He also uses the word “translation” instead of “shorter”. He is just not a very good Proggtard, I think he needs to read more Marcotte.

  84. Comment by Great Mencken's Ghost! on 8/29 @ 11:37 pm #

    “Earlier this year, they have an 11 year old girl act as Obama’s “straight man” at one of his Obamacare town hall meetings. Now, they resort to using Kennedy’s grandson to plug Obamacare; basically because none of them had the guts to do so, lest it be called Wellstonian…”

    No, it’s because the average lefty voter is dumber than a six year old.

  85. Comment by tony smith on 8/30 @ 9:46 am #

    If only this were Nancy Reagan, Trent Lott, Arlen Specter, Orrin Hatch or other conservatives begging Bush to expand the use of stem cells immediately following the death of Ronald Reagan. If that were the case, it would be perfectly fine. Right? http://dissentingjustice.blogspot.com/2009/08/selective-outrage-conservatives-invoked.html

  86. Comment by Rusty on 8/30 @ 10:03 am #

    Uh #85 see #84

  87. Comment by Darleen on 8/30 @ 10:12 am #

    tony

    yes, because adults giving statements to the press is exactly the same as having a child advocate legislation from the pulpit as a prayer during a funeral mass.

  88. Comment by Pablo on 8/30 @ 10:29 am #

    Methinks tony should Read The Fucking Post.

  89. Comment by Silver Whistle on 8/30 @ 10:43 am #

    I think Tony’s lips move when he reads, Pablo.

  90. Comment by David Axelrod on 8/30 @ 11:03 am #

    I think Tony’s lips move when he reads, Pablo.

    As long as mine don’t we are still cool.

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  92. Comment by SGT Ted on 8/30 @ 11:30 am #

    Hey ip quit trying to establish a theocracy to achieve your leftard goals. You too, Tony. You clowns just bugger off now.

  93. Comment by Rusty on 8/30 @ 11:54 am #

    You have to ask yourself; What would Teddy’s liver do.

  94. Comment by Rusty on 8/30 @ 11:56 am #

    ?

    BTW Teddies liver is going to be buried in a separate ceremony and given a medal.

  95. Comment by JD on 8/30 @ 11:59 am #

    “tony smith” is spamming that exact same comment at, at least, 3 sites I have read today. Classic astrotwoofing by the Left. What a dishonest little fucker.

  96. Comment by Darleen on 8/30 @ 12:25 pm #

    JD

    “tony smith” is posting from Lorton, VA … which is only 18 miles from Washington, DC where Darren Hutchinson, the author of the post “smith” is spamming, teaches law.

    IMO, either “smith” is Hutchinson as sockpuppet, or it’s a student of his.

  97. Comment by McGehee on 8/30 @ 4:01 pm #

    I thought Teddy’s liver was going to be appointed to the Senate vacancy.

    Or, it may be about to start a new run of PW interviews, since Byrd’s kleagle hood seems to have retired.

  98. Comment by Dana on 8/30 @ 5:18 pm #

    It needs to be remembered that, in the Order of the Mass, General Intercessions/Prayers of the Faithful require a response, normally “Lord, hear our prayer.” The people were instructed in the proper response at Senator Kennedy’s funeral Mass. And it’s considered highly rude — at best — do decline to repeat the response. They were pushing the opponents of ObamaCare present at the funeral to commit to it in that little stunt.

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  100. Comment by The Monster on 8/30 @ 5:31 pm #

    The assumption isn’t quite “abundance” per se:. This gets closer to it

    It’s a modern version of the hunter-gatherer-scavenger lifestyle. Everything’s out there, and nothing they do increases (or, in their unconscious assumptions, decreases) the supply.

    Nothing any common member of the tribe can do is able to change the supply of fruit to be gathered, or game to be hunted. God(s) provide the abundance or forsake the tribe in scarcity as their whims may play out. Perhaps the Witch Doctor can make an offering (such as a human sacrifice) on behalf of the tribe, and earn the favor of the Powerful One(s). The Chief may lead the warriors to drive off a neighboring tribe and get the spoils from a victory, and it doesn’t hurt if the Witch Doctor puts in a good word for the boys with the aforementioned Power(s) before they go off to battle; but the individual is as weak as a lone, unbundled stalk of wheat.

    Only by uniting into a solid f(asc)ist can victory be achieved. “Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer! The People, united, will never be defeated! What do we want? <Insert Cause du jour here>! When do we want it? NOW!”.

    Agriculture is revolutionary in that the work the farmer/herdsman does can produce so much more food than Divine Providence plants that a given amount of land typically supports something like 30x as many people, some of whom don’t actually have to work at getting food anymore. Now, instead of winning the favor of a deity or powerful tribal leader, a man’s individual effort, applied as his intelligence directs it, determines whether there is food for the “collective” to “redistribute”. And you can’t get a man to put in that effort without letting him keep a pretty big piece of the action. Bad news for chiefs and witch doctors, and they’ve been fighting for ten millenia against the producers that threaten their rightful place at the top of the social order.

  101. Comment by Celtic Dragon on 8/30 @ 6:14 pm #

    Hey IP? Some of conservatives are NOT Christian. Hell, some of us Conservatives are Agnostics or Atheists, Pagans or Heathens, Hindus or Jews. So tell us, why should we follow your attempted Christian guilt trip? Which, BTW is moot, since Jesus was talking about individual charity, NOT Government enforced charity, which isn’t really charity at all.

    Frackin’ Noob….

  102. Comment by geoffb on 8/30 @ 6:33 pm #

    “And it’s considered highly rude — at best — do decline to repeat the response. They were pushing the opponents of ObamaCare present at the funeral to commit to it in that little stunt.”

    Thank you Dana. That, not the using of the kids, (which was bad enough and made what was done worse) was what I could not take about it.

  103. Comment by JD on 8/30 @ 6:44 pm #

    At Mass this morning, I tried to get my 7 year old to read a prayer out loud during the Prayer for the Faithful. It started off … Dear Allah/Yaweh/God, please do not allow the dirty little socialists to do their dirty little socialisms to me. Better Half was not pleased.

  104. Comment by BuddyPC on 8/31 @ 12:02 am #

    Speaking of Jesus, couldn’t the Obamessiah just, you know, call Teddy forth out of said grave and voila! filibuster proof majority restored.

    I’m beginning to the think He isn’t the One I’ve been waiting for.

  105. Comment by Danger on 8/31 @ 6:04 am #

    “As usual, Jonah Goldberg hit’s the nail right on the head…”

    Good stuff Bob but I’ll see your Goldberg and raise you with a Zero:

    The closing paragraph:

    When you go into the voting booths next year, remember what the past week has taught you about the Democrats. It would have been one thing to offer a salute to the parts of his political agenda they agreed with, while acknowledging the dark side. The full-on hagiography, coupled with the disgusting attempts to dismiss Mary Jo Kopechne’s life as a small price to pay for political power, reveal that this party knows nothing about the meaning of redemption, responsibility, and the value of individual human lives. The rest of us can neither afford nor tolerate anyone like Ted Kennedy, ever again.

  106. Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/31 @ 3:55 pm #

    Comment by geoffb on 8/30 @ 6:33 pm

    In agreement with you. Turning a funeral service into a pitch for a particular political policy is offensive and very gauche. Imagine if there had been a reminder to patronize ‘X establishment, as the late Y had done; he would like that.’? It is the same thing.

    The urge to ‘Wellstone’ was there, but enough sense prevailed to keep the adults quiet and to try and slip it through in the words of a little child.

    This funeral service brought to you courtesy of the DNC and American Beverage Importers, Ltd.

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