Ace has the flaming skull out on this one.
at .25 Contessa Brewer continues MSNBC’s news fakery
“Yes, there are 2nd amendment rights, for sure … but also there are questions whether this has a racial overtone. I mean, here you have a man of color in the presidency and white people showing up with guns.”
Here’s the video MSNBC will not show you, the video they cropped to make it appear that it was a white person who was toting the rifle.
It’s not like NBC’s “news” division is unfamiliar with faking the news.
Hot Air: Never will you see a starker example of MSNBC getting away with the sort of deception for which Fox News would be pilloried, especially in the context of race.
Moe Lane: I usually don’t say this sort of thing all that often, but this is one of those times: this is inexcusable. THIS. WAS. DELIBERATE. They had the clip. They knew that the guy was a peaceful protester making a point about the Second Amendment. They knew that – by definition – he was not a crazy white right-winger itching to take a shot at the President. But they altered his appearance so that it matched their argument that there is an active risk of crazy right-wingers itching to take a shot at the President.
(h/t dicentra)
Andrea Mitchell declines comment
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 8/19 @ 11:25 pm #
Maybe David Schuster didn’t get to them in time so they could have super imposed Joe Liberman’s face on the blackman instead?
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 8/19 @ 11:32 pm #
Oh I meant to add that MSNBC’s premier slot holders are JournoList/Townhouse members, so their objectiveness is nill and their need to propagandize is high in order to please their Townhouse brethren that pull their strings.
Comment by dicentra on 8/19 @ 11:33 pm #
Can’t say that the mask is slipping, anymore. It’s done gone and now all we see is the clown makeup.
Comment by dicentra on 8/19 @ 11:35 pm #
Oh, and before I forget, everyone needs this.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 8/19 @ 11:48 pm #
I wish someone could SQUIRRELIZE Andrea Mitchell (I tried and for some reason I can’t). She could be drunk, but she’s always got DNC talking points in her hands!
Comment by Darleen on 8/20 @ 12:04 am #
Topsecretk9
there you go…
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 8/20 @ 12:52 am #
Thanks Darleen. It seems so natural though. Weird.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 8/20 @ 12:56 am #
I’m going to make up as a black man at the next tea party protest. I’ll be front page!
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Comment by geoffb on 8/20 @ 1:12 am #
So sad to see a great old brand fall so low… What? MS…NBC? Never mind.
Comment by Big D on 8/20 @ 1:15 am #
The truly sad part of all of this is that I would trust the squirrel over Andrea Mitchell. How low can journalism go?
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 8/20 @ 1:40 am #
How low can journalism go
We had journalism? really? when in my lifetime?
Comment by No one you know on 8/20 @ 3:55 am #
So where’s Charles Johnson on this? Isn’t this sort of thing his forte? I mean, news outlets faking stuff, that seems to be right there in his wheel house.
Comment by alppuccino on 8/20 @ 4:03 am #
This is just like when Fox News made up those Black Panthers on election day to look, well, you know, black. Eric Holder fixed their wagon though.
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 5:39 am #
Fuckers. Honestly, those fuckers are ruining our country. Piece by piece.
After I calm down I may have something better to add to the conversation.
Comment by Matt on 8/20 @ 6:04 am #
I feel ya Carin- I don’t like to use the word “hate” but when an organization which is supposed to be objective completely lies to me and treats me like I’m stupid, hate is the word that comes to mind.
I’m just a hater I guess. I’m off to cling to my guns and bible.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/20 @ 6:05 am #
What were once vices are now habits.
What was once propaganda is now reporting.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/20 @ 6:05 am #
Who owns PMSNBC?
Comment by meya on 8/20 @ 6:26 am #
A black guy bringing a gun is some pretty awesome “black friend”-ing. So long as he doesn’t look like those gun-less black panther election day types. MSNBC p0wn3d.
Comment by J. "Trashman" Peden on 8/20 @ 6:27 am #
Yeah, I’ve been watching PMSBC recently just to see how Chris Matthews has been playing these Town Halls, etc., and saw that particular odd shot of the weapon about 8 times, always wondering why a more full view of the weapon and the person carrying the weapon was not shown, but instead only that quite strange close-up of the weapon, which didn’t even give a good view of the weapon. Why do these morons think they’re so smooth? /asked and answered
Comment by geoffb on 8/20 @ 6:29 am #
This was linked to at Moe Lane. then there is this also. Charles has a different “wheelhouse” nowadays.
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 6:31 am #
Why don’t you just call him an Uncle Tom, Meya?
But, I’m glad to hear you have no problem with black panther’s hanging out in front of polling stations with billy clubs. I’m sure you’d feel the same way about Neo Nazi skinheads?
I’m sorry you can’t see the difference between peaceful protest and intimidation.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 6:37 am #
I see meya/RD is back in all of its babbling glory. Fucking lying fascist. Figures it is a fan of MSNBC.
Comment by alppuccino on 8/20 @ 6:50 am #
Black Panthers need clubs because they are black and therefore face inherent danger from whitey.
Comment by JHo on 8/20 @ 6:51 am #
I misunderestimated the pushback, the Bill of Rights be praised, but PMSNBC’s mendaci-baggery isn’t unexpected, sadly. Add this quackery to the Imus episode.
So. At what point do we start calling this what it looks about ready to become, which is the second American revolution?
Oh, you think that was hyperbole? No, it’s evident that Washington DC finally screwed the founding ideals right into the ground, broke the system – and I mean literally broke the system, right down to its technical insolvency – and we have no recourse but to reform Washington DC. It’s not even a matter of choice, because on the end of the line, securely hooked, you don’t have a choice.
Industry is nationalizing, Democrat-Socialists are issuing threats of fiat legislation, congressliars are jabbing at their own constituents (which means something those constituents do not about the security of congressliar power) the White House is posing for more social rule and routinely lying through its ears, the media is happily complicit, and the country is finally split like a ripe melon.
You know the cool thing? Redstaters make the stuff the ex fifty-two percenters consume, making this gun-carrying thing a bit of the old reverse class warfare. The power base no longer cares that it’s breaking the system grabbing everything it can, openly, and the middle class is fighting back. It’s fighting back because it has no alternative if it is to fend off the collectivist dark ages that will surely kill it.
Going forward from this point it doesn’t get any easier, Washington. Of that you may be restfully assured. We’re living a stark example of the end of a federal domestic empire erected over the last fifty years.
These next seismic political events should eliminate the State school, all State medicine, and nine-tenths of the domestic/entitlement law on the books. As it should be and once was.
As the man said, every single major federal program is broke! And the lights start to come on all over the land…
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 6:53 am #
The Corner comment on the incident.
No doubt, the president is in about zero danger from a man open carrying in such a manner. He prolly would have been dead had he so much as reached for his clips.
The media are … below stupid.
Now … can anyone explain the difference, to Meya, of a man open carrying at a demonstration (with a sniper most likely aiming at his head) and a Black Panther paroling a polling location?
Comment by JHo on 8/20 @ 7:01 am #
Or would this be the third American revolution? One hopes the Republicans won’t make the same mistakes following the next elections they did following 1994…
Comment by JHo on 8/20 @ 7:05 am #
What do you think the next election is going to produce, meya? Given that the super majority is stalled a half year into its rule, I’m guessing hope and change.
Comment by Abe Froman on 8/20 @ 7:07 am #
Meya is a dumb twat.
The funny thing to me is that if the media believes their own narratives then they keep missing all of the wonderful “man bites dog” moments that are ordinarily what journalists live for.
You’d think they’d find the presence of a black guy with a gun fascinating as news people. Where’s their curiosity?
You’d think the creator of the Obama joker poster being a Palestinian leftoid would be fascinating, on account of how you’d expect it to be the work of an angry Christian wingnut.
You’d think they’d find the parallels between Skippy Gates and Bob Dylan’s recent police encounter in a minority neighborhood endlessly fascinating and newsworthy.
Ditto for the lefties who’ve been caught engaging in Hitler hijinks at town halls.
Why, it’s almost as if they’re no longer news people at all.
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 7:13 am #
In my optimistic moments, I view Obama as the culmination of 40 (or more, depending on how far you want to go back) of liberal/progressive ideology.
Sure, Progressivism has roots that go further back, but if you start in the 60’s and the tenor that the liberal movement took at that point … it was then that a whole generation of folks were radicalized. As youths, they could do little but demonstrate and raise havoc. But, as they’ve aged … they’ve risen in wealth, position, and power. Those folks are now at the pinnacle of their power. In a “now or never” moment, before the aged hippies retire from the universities and such, THIS is their moment.
They’ve influence, they’ve mis-educated … they’ve primed the pump.
If they fail now … I just don’t think there are SO MANY radicals coming up behind them. Sure, there are young liberals … but they simply won’t have the 60 hippies urging ‘em on. Reliving their radical youth through the ambition of the younger folks. The dynamic will have changed.
That’s me being optimistic.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 7:18 am #
Abe – When were they last actually newspeople?
I have seen this clip on Mathews, Olbergasm, and MadCow for days, as proof of the violent racist evil white x-ianists. Fuck those fucking fuckers. And fuck william. And Ed. I am so tired of the dishonesty and medacity and bullshit coming from the media, the Dems, and the nutroots.
Comment by alppuccino on 8/20 @ 7:22 am #
Black Panther paroling a polling location?
Ha! You said “paroling”.
racist
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 7:23 am #
I’m with you JD. Time to turn on some Godsmack to eleven and let the rage …. flow.
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 7:24 am #
Alp, as the trolls at my blog will tell you, I am a horrible racist.
Comment by McGehee on 8/20 @ 7:25 am #
MSNBC: still the most dishonest name in news.
Comment by LTC John on 8/20 @ 7:26 am #
Carin,
You would be more optimistic if, like me, you got to serve alongside a lot of young people that think about many more things other than themselves. If there are hundreds of thousands willing to put their lives on the line, and be sent far away from the video games, beer, hook-up opportunities for not a whole lot of money – then the Ayers types have certainly not wholly succeded.
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 7:37 am #
Oh, I think I am optimistic. My hope if for the younger folks overcoming and replacing the aging hippies.
Perhaps I was too long-winded to properly express it.
Comment by JHo on 8/20 @ 7:40 am #
Darleen, had you seen this?
Comment by Miles W. Rich on 8/20 @ 7:44 am #
I did NOT see the original clip on MSNBC during the day, but I have seen it on Olbermann, Maddow, and Matthews and they showed the guy who was very Black with dark horned rim glasses. So the accusations made by these bloggers are just more of the same right wing crap, just like the death panel accusations. The crazy thing is that these Republicrap idiots get away with using Nazi references, when the key to Goebbels’s propoganda success was to tell a lie, tell it often, and organize planned “spontaneous” demonstrations. These guys along with FoxNews are following the Nazi playbook. And we Jews better thank our lucky stars that they have decided to pick on Obama and the liberals rather than the thieves of Wall Street and AIPAC.
Comment by MarkD on 8/20 @ 7:48 am #
LTC John is right. There are plenty of kids who haven’t drunk the progressive kool-aid.
I’m surprised the media didn’t photoshop the picture to add Sarah Palin or Dick Cheney’s head to the rifle toting racist.
It’s time to tell the advertisers that we have no use for liars. I haven’t the stomach to watch to find out who they are.
Comment by Abe Froman on 8/20 @ 7:50 am #
I did NOT see the original clip on MSNBC during the day, but I have seen it on Olbermann, Maddow, and Matthews and they showed the guy who was very Black with dark horned rim glasses. So the accusations made by these bloggers are just more of the same right wing crap, just like the death panel accusations. The crazy thing is that these Republicrap idiots get away with using Nazi references, when the key to Goebbels’s propoganda success was to tell a lie, tell it often, and organize planned “spontaneous” demonstrations. These guys along with FoxNews are following the Nazi playbook. And we Jews better thank our lucky stars that they have decided to pick on Obama and the liberals rather than the thieves of Wall Street and AIPAC.
The clip is what it is. You fucking moron.
Comment by alppuccino on 8/20 @ 7:51 am #
So you’re saying you didn’t see Brewer’s version Miles? You know the version that edited out the black guy’s skin in order to say that it was a racist thing? You didn’t grasp that? Is that what you’re saying? Because if that’s what you’re saying, you’re an idiot.
Comment by alppuccino on 8/20 @ 7:52 am #
…and what Abe said.
Comment by Ric Locke on 8/20 @ 7:55 am #
What I want to know is — are there no lawyers with time for pro bono, or people with money who can hire lawyers, on “our side” of this?
I want somebody to sue the FEC to make them declare that MSNBC and the rest of the alphabet have abandoned the duties and responsibilities of the Press, and should be counted as political advocacy organizations with their budgets allocated as campaign contributions to the Democratic Party.
Yes, yes, I know, freedom of the Press and all that. It’d be a sad thing — but, then, I think the restrictions on free speech represented by the current election laws are an outrage, anyway; this is just the next step. At minimum, the Press is supposed to tell us the truth, not THE TRVTH, however they wish to spin or slant. When they descend to outright lying, they don’t qualify as “Press” any more.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 7:56 am #
Fuck you too, Miles Fucking Rich. Those are fucking lies and you area a fucking liar. This is exactly what I am so fucking tired of. These are the kind of douchebags that would piss on your leg and try to tell you it is raining.
Comment by Darleen on 8/20 @ 7:57 am #
Miles
but I have seen it on Olbermann, Maddow, and Matthews Prove it. Go find the broadcast clips.
So the accusations made by these bloggers are just more of the same right wing crap, just like the death panel accusations
Is it your contention that the MSNBC clip above DIDN’T happen? And we’ve already shown that “death panels”, while hyperbolic ARE a part of government-run health care… see Dr. Zeke Emanuel and his 2009 Lancet article advocating universal healthcare run by “Complete Life System”. Also there is a panel to evaluate COST-effectiveness in the Stimulus package and at least two more similiar panels in a couple of the healthcare “reform” bills in Congress. And if the “death panel” charge was bogus, why did the Senate decide to remove language even the Washington Post found “disturbing”?
Republicrap idiots get away with using Nazi references
Does this look like “republicans”?
organize planned “spontaneous” demonstrations
ACORN, SEIU, OFA, Axelrod spams — uh, just who is doing the astroturfing, dude? Tea Parties ARE grassroot organized, dipshit.
These guys along with FoxNews are following the Nazi playbook. And we Jews better thank our lucky stars that they have decided to pick on Obama and the liberals rather than the thieves of Wall Street and AIPAC.
“we Jews”? then you segue into stereotype anti-Semite Wall Street Jews/AIPAC …
Played your hand a little fast on that one.
Comment by Salt Lick on 8/20 @ 8:00 am #
A black guy bringing a gun is some pretty awesome “black friend”-ing. So long as he doesn’t look like those gun-less black panther election day types.
Tee hee. Meya thinks people vote at Obama town hall meetings.
Comment by Pablo on 8/20 @ 8:01 am #
How much are they paying you, Miles?
Comment by Ric Locke on 8/20 @ 8:29 am #
Pah.
On the one hand, we have SEIU members on time-and-a-half from their supposed “jobs” and “volunteers” being paid $15 an hour, brought together beforehand by their Mercedes Marxist “community organizers” to practice reciting the chants and accusations scripted by the Party leadership and nicely offset-printed in large type for easy reading, and handed professionally-designed and professionally-printed signs to wave, all saying the same thing; they are taken to the site in buses professionally painted with the sigils and slogans of the organizations — the only thing missing is cute little Japanese girls waving flags to make sure they know which bus to board. These, Miles will tell us, are spontaneous demonstrations of the Will of the Peepul.
On the other, we have individuals who are taking unpaid time off from work, who show up in their own vehicles or walk with hand-drawn signs expressing a wide variety of opinions around a central theme, and who express a variety of differing versions of the basic idea — and because they have exchanged emails and phone calls with one another beforehand, Miles and his fellows dismiss them as “Astroturf” and “Goebbels-style organizing”.
The problem is, for Miles: BOTH SIDES KNOW MILES AND HIS FELLOWS ARE LYING. The scripted “protestors” and their TEA Party opponents both know what’s going on, and the latter are much more likely to have actually read Dr. Goebbels’s prescriptions and know who’s following them and who is not. More insidiously, the Axelturfers also know that the whole thing’s a staged piece — and it simply adds to their cynicism about the entire mess, which diminishes the amount of principled support for that viewpoint. You’re behind the power curve, Miles.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by Silver Whistle on 8/20 @ 8:34 am #
A well known British political interviewer on the BBC, one Jeremy Paxman, once said he keeps a thought in his head whilst interviewing politicos: “Why is this lying liar lying to me?” Something to bear in mind when reading Miles, or watching MSNBC.
Comment by Damon on 8/20 @ 8:53 am #
Call MSNBC and complain. 202-885-4200 get ready for the ol two step though.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 8:55 am #
This is BS. You can see the black guy with the gun on MSNBC’s web page and it was discussed on Hardball and mention was made of the man’s race repeatedly. Try again.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32457652/ns/politics-white_house/
Try again. BTW… This event where the black guy, a Ron Paul supporter, brought the assault rifle to President Obama’s event and the man who interviewed him was planned with local police as a publicity stunt. A local policeman was assigned to be by this guy’s side the whole time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqPSV0ZQL1Q
No comparison with the Faux News where 75% of it’s viewers believe Obama is going to kill grannie. BTW … did you see Fox News defend the woman who compared Obama’s health care plan to Nazi extermination? Can you imagine any self respecting news organization doing that?
http://www.newshounds.us/
It’s a parallel universe and conservatives are perfectly gullible.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 9:05 am #
Once and for all you gullible people… there are NO death panels being proposed.
THE POLL: 45 percent said it’s likely the government will decide when to stop care for the elderly; 50 percent said it’s not likely.
THE FACTS: Nothing being debated in Washington would give the government such authority. Critics have twisted a provision in a House bill that would direct Medicare to pay for counseling sessions about end-of-life care, living wills, hospices and the like if a patient wants such consultations with a doctor. They have said, incorrectly, that the elderly would be required to have these sessions.
House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio said such counseling “may start us down a treacherous path toward government-encouraged euthanasia.”
The bill would prohibit coverage of counseling that presents suicide or assisted suicide as an option.
Republican Sen. Johnny Isakson of Georgia, who has been a proponent of coverage for end-of-life counseling under Medicare, said such sessions are a voluntary benefit, strictly between doctor and patient, and it was “nuts” to think death panels are looming or euthanasia is part of the equation.
But as fellow conservatives stepped up criticism of the provision, he backed away from his defense of it.
Comment by Willy Wonk's Filing Cabinet on 8/20 @ 9:05 am #
Oh, good, Willy, you found those clips that actually showed the black guy but didn’t mention racism. Nice two step! You are really on top of your game. That same drawer where you found the Fox news kill granny thing also has that old clip of the guy with the gun who so confused Chris Mathews he just about threw up his hands. Use that one too and everyone will be confused as to the actual clip which was clearly cropped to avoid showing the guy’s skin color and, thus, devaluing the whole racist meme.
Now if this thing keeps getting some attention, go back to those folders you pulled earlier about ID, Creationism and Religious diversity in Giles County. Remember, anything to obfuscate the truth about the racist clip or health care reform or anything else they is just freakin’ killin’ us with.
Oh, and crack the basement window a little. It’s kinda humid in here and the straw men ranks are beginning to reek!
Comment by The Monster on 8/20 @ 9:07 am #
Treacher had the best comment on it:
Comment by bigbooner on 8/20 @ 9:09 am #
William and Leonard Pitts Jr. just found out that some people have actually called a sitting president a “Nazi”. Evidently they shared the same bomb shelter for eight years.
Comment by Willy Wonk's Filing Cabinet on 8/20 @ 9:09 am #
Oh, death panels! I didn’t know you pulled that file. Axlerod’s gonna send you an Obama poster, hand signed.
Sweet!
Don’t forget; not a word about the CBO or deficits or costs of any kind or David gets cranky and won’t let you out of the basement!
Good allah the straw men are choking me to death. Open the damn window! Someday we’re gonna have a first floor office for all of this crap, you just wait and see!
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/20 @ 9:10 am #
How the hell did that guy fit AIPAC into a comment about this? Jesus Christ.
Comment by geoffb on 8/20 @ 9:11 am #
Talking points have been distributed overnight to all the toadies.
TPM-TV is Second link
Third link,
Yep.
Comment by Willy Wonk's Filing Cabinet on 8/20 @ 9:15 am #
OK you’ve plowed the ground with gun toting racists, dum assed hicks, crazee Christians, wack job creationists and nut cake death panel rubes. Now it’s time to go for the kill!
Bottom drawer … way in the back … yes, the shocking pink folder … oh, I’m so excited …yup, that’s the one ….
GAY MARRIAGE!!!!!
BWAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Crap! The straw men are starting to rot. MORE HAY FOR PROGRESS!!! And maybe a fan or something…
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 9:18 am #
READERS: One of the main posters on this blog – DARLEEN – is gullible enough to believe the Fox News/ Republican sponsored lie about “death panels” … even though this BS has been debunked time and time again…
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/14/health/policy/14panel.html
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=8298267&page=1
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090811/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_end_of_life_q_a
If a primary poster on this blog is so gullible and misinformed, this should give you a hint about the credibility of these posts
You can go back to Fox News now.
http://www.newshounds.us/
Comment by geoffb on 8/20 @ 9:19 am #
Notice that on a thread about the narcissism of Obama william is on about the anti-science anti-evloution religious young-earthers that infest PW.
Now on a thread about MSNBC doctoring a video to fit a talking point they were pushing he is now going to push his talking point that there are no “death panels” in a certain bill.
Hijack much sweety?
Comment by Salt Lick on 8/20 @ 9:20 am #
Has anyone linked to what notorious wing-nut and Negro-hater Nat Hentoff says about “death panels?”
I was not intimidated during J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI hunt for reporters like me who criticized him. I railed against the Bush-Cheney war on the Bill of Rights without blinking. But now I am finally scared of a White House administration. President Obama’s desired health care reform intends that a federal board (similar to the British model) — as in the Center for Health Outcomes Research and Evaluation in a current Democratic bill — decides whether your quality of life, regardless of your political party, merits government-controlled funds to keep you alive. Watch for that life-decider in the final bill. It’s already in the stimulus bill signed into law.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 9:22 am #
Like I’m gonna listen to some racist guitarist.
Comment by Abe Froman on 8/20 @ 9:24 am #
I couldn’t bring myself to read most of william’s verbal effluvium as he broached my one bunny limit in the first twenty words. But I’ll give him this: he is one indefatigable hicktard music teacher.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 9:25 am #
Those are lies, william, and you remain a fucking liar liar liar.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 9:30 am #
lol… you guys are amazingly stupid. Do you really think I am lying about the lie you believe? Sorry, blame Reuters, the AP, NYT, Yahoo News, ABC, CBS, and every rational thinking responsible fact checking news organization in the world…. don’t blame me.
I’m astonished at the gullibility, abject ignorance, and plain stupidity I see here. It’s hopeless.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 9:31 am #
THE POLL: 45 percent said it’s likely the government will decide when to stop care for the elderly; 50 percent said it’s not likely.
THE FACTS: Nothing being debated in Washington would give the government such authority. Critics have twisted a provision in a House bill that would direct Medicare to pay for counseling sessions about end-of-life care, living wills, hospices and the like if a patient wants such consultations with a doctor. They have said, incorrectly, that the elderly would be required to have these sessions.
House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio said such counseling “may start us down a treacherous path toward government-encouraged euthanasia.”
The bill would prohibit coverage of counseling that presents suicide or assisted suicide as an option.
Republican Sen. Johnny Isakson of Georgia, who has been a proponent of coverage for end-of-life counseling under Medicare, said such sessions are a voluntary benefit, strictly between doctor and patient, and it was “nuts” to think death panels are looming or euthanasia is part of the equation.
But as fellow conservatives stepped up criticism of the provision, he backed away from his defense of it.
___
THE POLL: 55 percent expect the overhaul will give coverage to illegal immigrants; 34 percent don’t.
THE FACTS: The proposals being negotiated do not provide coverage for illegal immigrants.
___
THE POLL: 54 percent said the overhaul will lead to a government takeover of health care; 39 percent disagree.
THE FACTS: Obama is not proposing a single-payer system in which the government covers everyone, like in Canada or some European countries. He says that direction is not right for the U.S. The proposals being negotiated do not go there.
At issue is a proposed “exchange” or “marketplace” in which a new government plan would be one option for people who aren’t covered at work or whose job coverage is too expensive. The exchange would offer some private plans as well as the public one, all of them required to offer certain basic benefits.
That’s a long way from a government takeover. But when Obama tells people they can just continue with the plans they have now if they are happy with them, that can’t be taken at face value, either. Tax provisions could end up making it cheaper for some employers to pay a fee to end their health coverage, nudging some patients into a public plan with different doctors and benefits. Over time, critics fear, the public plan could squeeze private insurers out of business because they would not be able to compete with the federal government.
It’s unclear now whether Obama is committed to the public option. He described it recently as “just one sliver” of health reform, suggesting it was expendable if lawmakers could agree on another way to expand affordable coverage. Now the White House is emphasizing his strong support for it.
___
THE POLL: 50 percent expect taxpayer dollars will be used to pay for abortions; 37 percent don’t.
THE FACTS: The House version of legislation would allow coverage for abortion in the public plan. But the procedure would be paid for with dollars from beneficiary premiums, not from federal funds. Likewise, private plans in the new insurance exchange could opt to cover abortion, but no federal subsidies would be used to pay for the procedure.
Opponents say the prohibition on federal money for the procedure is merely a bookkeeping trick and what matters is that Washington would allow abortion to be covered under government-subsidized insurance.
Obama has stated that the U.S. should continue its tradition of “not financing abortions as part of government-funded health care.” Current laws prohibiting public financing of abortion would stay on the books.
Yet abortion guidelines are not yet clear for the government-supervised insurance exchange. There is strong sentiment in Congress on both sides of the issue.
Comment by Abe Froman on 8/20 @ 9:32 am #
Re: #65 – broached should be reached. WTF? The fumes from william’s meth lab must be drifting into metro NYC.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 9:33 am #
Now it is going to copy and paste from Soros sites. YIPPEE!
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/20 @ 9:34 am #
If the bill does not cover illegals then why did the Democrats vote down a proposal that would have prohibited them from recieving treatment?
Comment by Matt on 8/20 @ 9:34 am #
Ok so a supposed jew troll just compared me to a nazi?
I don’t think you quite understand what a nazi is. And, for the record, the only nazi comparison I’ve seen from the right is the simple fact that National Socialism (as set up by the nazi party) is very similar to the socialist “utopia” theWon wants to set up.
But its ok for liberals to shout “death to Bush” and “republicans are nazis”. I’m confused. It looks like there’s a double standard somewhere but I must be projecting.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/20 @ 9:35 am #
Actually that is an AP “Fact-Check”.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 9:35 am #
um, there’s some problems with that list…
RACIST!
Comment by Willy Wonk's Filing Cabinet on 8/20 @ 9:36 am #
Dude! Slow down on the cut and pastes! You’ll develop Carpel tunnel Syndrome and shut down the operation.
THE
SPICENARRATIVE MUS FLOW!Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 9:36 am #
Wee willie is not even close to being the smartest guitar player that comments here. He is a brainless lying racist who is scared scared scared of brown people.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 9:36 am #
OK… I’m a white person and I hate white people? Is that what you’re saying?
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 9:37 am #
Hentoff’s opinion will be dismissed (where it is even spoken of) as that of an aged and unfortunately now senile gentleman whose family still loves him dearly. See, no death boards here. Now move along.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 9:37 am #
PLASTIC TURKEY!!!
Comment by Squid on 8/20 @ 9:37 am #
William,
I’m interested in your reaction to a slight re-writing of your central question: If the primary spokesmen for this Administration have lied about so many other issues, this should give you a hint about the credibility of these promises.
I hope you’ll forgive the 100,000,000 of your countrymen who don’t believe a word that comes out of Congress or the White House. After having been burned so badly in just six months, one can hardly blame them.
Now, what was it you were saying about credibility?
Comment by Mom on 8/20 @ 9:39 am #
William, what did I say yesterday about spinning furiously in the living room? You’re going to fall down and hit your head on the fireplace, again.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 9:39 am #
No, you are scared scared scared of brown people, especially ones that can spell.
Racist
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/20 @ 9:39 am #
Fact check this
http://charliefoxtrotblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/single-payer-mash-up.html
Comment by Willy Wonk's Filing Cabinet on 8/20 @ 9:40 am #
Oh, crap. Mom’s home! HIDE THE STRAW MEN! OH GODS, THE SMELL. WE’RE SO BUSTED!!!
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 9:40 am #
Mr. Durante could not be reached for comment…
Comment by Willy Wonk's Filing Cabinet on 8/20 @ 9:42 am #
Quick, Willy! Mix mom a big scotch! Maybe she’ll pass out and forget this ever happened.
STAT! LOCK ME UP!!!
Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/20 @ 9:44 am #
“THE FACTS: Nothing being debated in Washington would give the government such authority.”
Another fact: you are a gullible fellow traveler on the road to fascism.
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 9:48 am #
First off, presumably, this being the internet, no one knows.
But william, did you catch the commenter on MSNBC the other day explaining how the word socialist has become or is in process of becoming the new code word for nigger? (The latter being so egregious the fellow couldn’t bring himself to speak it, choosing instead to say “the n word”.) Still and all, shocking stuff, right?
Be that as it may, step back a moment and ask yourself, “Wha, what is going on here?”
What, for instance, was Newsweek implying when they pronounced in a banner headline and article “We’re All Socialists Now” Were they not saying we’re all niggers now? But shouldn’t they have been?
Comment by geoffb on 8/20 @ 9:48 am #
Yet.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 9:50 am #
JD,
No, it’s the GOP that is afraid of brown people. They hate Mexicans, their teaparties are 99% white, they have the least number of black delegates in 40 years and the previous republican administration made it a hallmark of their policy to kill and torture brown people, but thats ok, because they were brown. That’s YOUR party not mine.
At the Democratic convention in Denver this year, 44 percent of the delegates were minorities, including all minorities, not just African Americans. And also a majority of those delegates were women.
At the RNC, the men outnumber the women 2-1 on the delegate floor. There were just 1.5% black delegates. Today, only 2% of all GOP voters are Latino. Only 1% of Republicans are Black. Barely 15% of GOP voters are under 35. The GOP is built on an aging, dying electoral coalition.
That is YOUR party, not mine.
Comment by No One You Know on 8/20 @ 9:50 am #
I know I shouldn’t, but regards comment #68 and the *ahem* facts, I’ll take a stab at “fact 2″ and “fact 3″
With regard to Point 2 and opponents saying this is some sort of accounting trick, it’s not even much of a trick considering the ummmmm, ahhhh, fungibility of money. So the defense of this measure, that the government is only going to finance abortions from premiums is absurd on its face.
Number 3 is even easier seeing as we have Obama on tape saying he advocates single payer. So he can give us the old “As I’ve said all along” qualifier, but this seems to be a matter of was he lying then or is he lying now?
If that’s the best that this commenter can muster in the way of a defense for current Democrat health care reform proposals, he’s the one living in a different universe.
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 9:54 am #
hey bh, glad to see ya hanging in there.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 9:56 am #
Wee willie is an aggressive lying racist. Brown people what can spell scare him deeply. It is our policy to kill and torture brown people!!!!!! YIPPEE! You forgot that we like to oppress them too, asshat.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 9:56 am #
so, you think all non-white people are superior to white males?
RACIST!
Comment by Abe Froman on 8/20 @ 9:58 am #
No, it’s the GOP that is afraid of brown people. They hate Mexicans, their teaparties are 99% white, they have the least number of black delegates in 40 years and the previous republican administration made it a hallmark of their policy to kill and torture brown people, but thats ok, because they were brown. That’s YOUR party not mine.
At the Democratic convention in Denver this year, 44 percent of the delegates were minorities, including all minorities, not just African Americans. And also a majority of those delegates were women.
At the RNC, the men outnumber the women 2-1 on the delegate floor. There were just 1.5% black delegates. Today, only 2% of all GOP voters are Latino. Only 1% of Republicans are Black. Barely 15% of GOP voters are under 35. The GOP is built on an aging, dying electoral coalition.
That is YOUR party, not mine.
I just wanted to reproduce all that stupid in case some people skip past comments under your name.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 9:59 am #
I mean, you’re the one I always see that’s sooooo concerned about people’s skin color. WTF?
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 9:59 am #
so, you think all non-white people are superior to white males?
WTF did you get that from? I am a white male and I understand that the strength in this country is in our diversity which is clearly represented in Democratic party. The GOP has become a white regional christian party.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/20 @ 10:00 am #
Obviously Robert Byrd could not be reached for comment.
Comment by Abe Froman on 8/20 @ 10:00 am #
william is a racist.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 10:00 am #
Pardon me for a moment, I need to go oppress some brown people. brb
Comment by Willy Wonk's Filing Cabinet on 8/20 @ 10:00 am #
Is Mom asleep yet?
Awesome! Keep hammering that whole RNC thing. After all, they didn’t give anything to minorities. Whatever you do, don’t mention that Asians tend to be largely conservative. You know, that whole family is first and work hard and pull yourself up by your chinstraps. Must keep that out of the discussion. Stick with black folk but stay away from how they vote on gay marriage initiatives. That’s a meme killer right there!
Remember, the charcoal file wrapped in red tape is the CBO estimates for deficits and the grossly underestimated costs of the reform bill. MAKE SURE IT’S SECURED!! If anybody asks about it, yank the file on how rethuglicans want women to have abortions in back alleys with coat hangers. That should stir up the xtian hayseeds and keep their eye off of the ball!
Gods! Could you lend me a can of Lysol? Strawmen and basements just don’t mix!
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 10:01 am #
why else would it matter?
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/20 @ 10:01 am #
What does any of this have to do with MSNBC cropping off the guys skin color so they could rant about how white people at townhalls are racists?
Comment by Willy Wonk's Filing Cabinet on 8/20 @ 10:03 am #
Crap! Mr. Pink is on to us! YANK THE ABORTION FILE!
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 10:04 am #
FYI….
Overall, 32 percent of all Asian Americans identify themselves as Democrats; 14 percent as Republicans; 19 percent as independents; and 35 percent as nonpartisan.
http://www.asianweek.com/2008/10/24/who-is-the-asian-american-voter/
Comment by Michael Steele on 8/20 @ 10:04 am #
Uh, I’ve got a little clue that you might want to have a look at, william.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 10:04 am #
oh no, Mr. Pink, that is totally not what you saw.
Comment by BJTexs on 8/20 @ 10:05 am #
william: Were you selected for this job or did you volunteer?
Oh, and what color is the AstroTurf in your basement?
Thanking you in advance…
Comment by Mom on 8/20 @ 10:05 am #
“What does any of this have to do with MSNBC cropping off the guys skin color so they could rant about how white people at townhalls are racists?”
Nothing, but my little William is “special”. Look at him go! The little scamp is so cute when he’s drooling like that.
Comment by psycho... on 8/20 @ 10:06 am #
A winning strategy, for a certain kind of win.
Shared images — of the self, “us,” the other(s), “them,” the world and the players on it, their roles and motivations — make stronger bonds than shared principles, and the more false and fragile those shared images are, the stronger the bond that protects them.
This is how shit goes way wrong.
…
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 10:07 am #
why else would it matter?
Because government is ‘by the people and for the people’ and when one party represents only one race of ‘the people’… it is no longer… “the people” … get it?
Comment by Mel Martinez on 8/20 @ 10:08 am #
Hiya, Michael! Hey, did I leave a bottle of Scotch in the RNC Chair desk drawer?
Huh. I’ve got a clue for william too! How about that.
Comment by geoffb on 8/20 @ 10:09 am #
william hijacks, makes it about him, narcissism, the left, synonymous.
Question, when do we get called faggots? Why hasn’t that one hit the fan yet?
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 10:09 am #
Willie only sees people as part of a voting block, not as individuals. Racist.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 10:09 am #
Take it from one of your own
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/18191.html
Comment by Pablo on 8/20 @ 10:09 am #
“Republicans aren’t people.” I get it, william. You’re an idiot.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 10:10 am #
why would race even matter in that case?
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 10:10 am #
It’s the *represents* part you seem to be having trouble with there. Most of the folks here have a different sort of trouble with what it represents, but then that trouble is a matter of principle I wouldn’t expect you to understand.
Still, your projecting stupidity onto it won’t help either it or you.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 10:11 am #
“the Republican Party seems to be slipping into a position of being more of a regional party than a national one.”
– Sen Mitch McConnell [R-KY]
lol!!!!
Comment by Abe Froman on 8/20 @ 10:13 am #
FYI….
Overall, 32 percent of all Asian Americans identify themselves as Democrats; 14 percent as Republicans; 19 percent as independents; and 35 percent as nonpartisan.
http://www.asianweek.com/2008/10/24/who-is-the-asian-american-voter/
Yet another example of the perils of stupid people using statistics. Asians are unarguably conservative in how they lead their lives, which is what the previous commenter said.
Comment by BJTexs on 8/20 @ 10:13 am #
And yet, william…
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 10:14 am #
Willie is one of those that tries to use race as a cudgel, and blame us for the voting and political choices of others, even if they agree with us on the actual issues – vouchers, teh ghey marriage, etc … Plus, willie is afriad of brown people.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 10:15 am #
It’s game over for Republicans.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1896588,00.html
All they have to go on are peddling lies to a less educated and misinformed and poorly educated voting bloc. They throw so much shit on the wall, their only hope is that some of it will stick.
Game over.
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/98jun/gop.htm
Comment by JHo on 8/20 @ 10:16 am #
No comparison with NBC’s Conan O’Brien show, where, as with the entire get-your-thought-here-instead jester class on State teevee, 95% of it’s viewers chuckle along with MSNBC chucklehead Rachel Maddow because, you know, how could anyone possibly believe rationing could occur under collective medicine?
Rationing?! Rationing?! But it is to laugh!
Aren’t you the smart, keen one, Willie, vetting everything by poll because it so speaks Truf to Powah, you edgy progg you.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 10:18 am #
well, duh, why else live in TN?
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 10:19 am #
1998? William? REALLY? and how did that next Presidential election go?
Comment by Willy Wonk's Filing Cabinet on 8/20 @ 10:19 am #
Peo-ple … people who need peo-ple … are the browniest peo-ple … in the world …
Oh, sorry, I was daydreaming do to the lightheadiness brought on by the rotting straw men.
Carry on!
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 10:21 am #
If the ground of your political philosophy demands that rights inhere in individuals as individuals, every moment you spend addressing your political opposition’s stance that individuals have no rights but groups designated by the self-chosen powers have rights is an engagement lost.
Race is largely a made up fantasy, a false category dangled to distract and confuse. william was obsessed by scientific thinking just yesterday. What does science have to say about race? Any consensus there? No? Huh, that’s odd.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 10:21 am #
OK, all you over 35 white christian conservatives … play nice now. I have to go practice.
http://www.truthout.org/080409W
Comment by ghost707 on 8/20 @ 10:21 am #
If I were the squirrel, I would sue for defamation of character, being in the same photo as Andrea Mitchell is an insult to the global squirrel community.
The Squirrel is now dumber for being in that photo.
I like the squirrel – at least he has a measurable IQ. Andrea Mitchell…not so much.
BTW, does anyone watch MSNBC any more? I am pretty sure they are the main reason 75% of the population no longer trust the media.
Comment by plainslow on 8/20 @ 10:23 am #
Charles Manson tryed to start a race war too, MSNBC.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/20 @ 10:23 am #
So now this lunatic is on to “it’s game over for Republicants!!!1!!!!” and quoting the Atlantic and Time magazine? WTF is this guy smoking?
Comment by BJTexs on 8/20 @ 10:24 am #
BRRRIIIIIIIING
Department of redundancy department. May I help you, help you?
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/20 @ 10:25 am #
This is like playing the six degrees speration/Kevin Bacon game except with politics.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 10:26 am #
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 10:27 am #
yep, ANY DAY NOW, that thing will be unsealed!
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 10:32 am #
TWOOFOUT!!!!! Game. Set. Match. Beeyotches. You have been p3wnd by william/jones the racist hilljack.
Comment by Pablo on 8/20 @ 10:34 am #
Oh, no he diin’t. Truthout, Billy?
Yeah, I’d leave too, if I were you.
Comment by Abe Froman on 8/20 @ 10:37 am #
It’s so weird to encounter the perspective of a progressive hick in Tennessee. He’s so far removed from where the narratives he’s selling get baked that he sounds like a hyper and slow-witted teenage virgin describing sex.
Comment by Mom on 8/20 @ 10:39 am #
“…I have to go practice.”
I’ve told you before, sweetie, if you keep “practicing” like that you’ll go blind.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 10:40 am #
One last thing. A news organization is judged on journalistic excellence. You’ll find Pulitzer Prize winner Eugene Robinson a regular guest on all of MSNBC’s shows. You’ll never see Robinson on Hannity. Christina Brown is an Emmy award winning journalist, is an anchor for MSNBC (an African-American). You won’t see many Fox News people nominated for journalistic excellence. Also, no news organization can compete with CNN in world view. They have more international and foreign speaking correspondents than any news organization. But you can tune into Fox and Friends daily and hear the dumb white people like Steve “Doucebag” Doocy call Obama a Nazi. The choice is yours.
http://www.newshounds.us/
Comment by Abe Froman on 8/20 @ 10:44 am #
One last thing. A news organization is judged on journalistic excellence. You’ll find Pulitzer Prize winner Eugene Robinson a regular guest on all of MSNBC’s shows. You’ll never see Robinson on Hannity. Christina Brown is an Emmy award winning journalist, is an anchor for MSNBC (an African-American). You won’t see many Fox News people nominated for journalistic excellence. Also, no news organization can compete with CNN in world view. They have more international and foreign speaking correspondents than any news organization. But you can tune into Fox and Friends daily and hear the dumb white people like Steve “Doucebag” Doocy call Obama a Nazi. The choice is yours.
http://www.newshounds.us/
Is this your final LOOK! BUNNIES!!!! regarding the indisputably propagandistic clip from PMSNBC that this post was about?
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 10:45 am #
The pushback on the emotional front is threefold:
(1) All protesters are racist Klanny-Nazi loons (they have been running this for sometime).
(2) Bring on the ‘big insurance’ McCarthyite hearings.
(3) Pres. Obama speaks about how it is moral to pass this health plan and calls upon God.
Seems to me they really aren’t sure what to do. #1 hasn’t really been working; #2 is tried and true, but that is all C-SPAN material and is as boring as hell (and the inquistors make gargoyles look like beauty queens); #3 plays to Obama’s strengths at delivering the glittering generalities speech, but his credibility has been taking some hits recently and doing this may exasperate more people than it convinces.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 10:46 am #
and again, Mr. Durante… still not commenting.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/20 @ 10:47 am #
“dumb white people”
William why don’t you try to do a little mental excersice and take your last comment and switch the skin colors around that you are talking about. Where you type “black” or “african-american”, put “white”. Come on try it out man.
Comment by Salt Lick on 8/20 @ 10:47 am #
Also, no news organization can compete with CNN in world view.
I think Al Jazeera is every bit their equal.
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 10:48 am #
You too have a choice william. You can continue to make moronic and false projections onto the commenting community here, or you can engage us as individuals and learn what we actually believe.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/20 @ 10:48 am #
William hates his own skin color.
Comment by cranky-d on 8/20 @ 10:49 am #
I think Jonah Goldberg was too kind to the left when he wrote “Liberal Fascism.” He actually stuck qualifiers in there and stuff.
Comment by cranky-d on 8/20 @ 10:51 am #
willaim has already shot his load. I don’t read anything he writes. I guess he could make up a new handle and try again, but his type just continues to go down the same road time and time again.
Why do these trolls act as if we haven’t seen their ilk before? They all think they’re original thinkers I guess.
Comment by Abe Froman on 8/20 @ 10:53 am #
By the way, I’ve never watched FOX & FRIENDS in my life but according to Steve “douchebag” Doocy’s bio he has won 11 whole EMMYS! Now that’s journalistic excellence!!!!
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/20 @ 10:55 am #
I tried taking williams last comment and switching the races around of those he likes and those he hates. I almost hit say it but thought better of making myself look like a racist jackass like him.
Comment by BBC on 8/20 @ 10:55 am #
“Also, no news organization can compete with CNN in world view.”
Ahem.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 10:56 am #
Emmy awards are gay. And cheap. Cheap as dirt.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 8/20 @ 10:59 am #
Will.i.am – the problem with your precious healthcare is not Republicans. Its your own enlightened selves. I mean, you have the majority, vote it in. You don’t need conservatives, plus we are novbodies represented by a regional party.
Vote it in Will.i.am. Go ahead. What you waiting for? Why couldn’t the great nostril of the west and Grandma McRicktus get it over the line on Aug 1?
Will.i.am gonna treat us to a lecture on blue dog democrats really being DINOs?
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 11:01 am #
oh please, did you censor yourself to keep access to Saddam Hussein? hmmmmm? Did you claim that American soldiers were targeting you in Iraq?
pansy.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 11:03 am #
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 10:21 am #
OK, all you over 35 white christian conservatives … play nice now. I have to go practice.
http://www.truthout.org/080409W
How amny business hours are you going to practice?
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 11:03 am #
I bet wee willie wonka has a mangina.
Truthout!
Racists
Comment by Pablo on 8/20 @ 11:03 am #
Nonsense. News Corp buries CNN. It ain’t even close.
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 11:03 am #
Looks like those hurricane victims Obama will be looking for won’t be too hard for him to find hf. They could easily be his fellow vacationers on Martha’s Vineyard. Global service with a smile.
Comment by Pablo on 8/20 @ 11:04 am #
No news organization can compete with CNN in shilling/covering for Saddam Hussein, though.
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 11:04 am #
Does CNN have an official statement of weltanschauung?
Comment by ghost707 on 8/20 @ 11:07 am #
Obama is losing his presidency, not a damn thing that MSNBC or anyone else can do about it now.
MSNBC is actually accelerating the process.
Comment by Pablo on 8/20 @ 11:07 am #
Yeah. Almost as gay, dirty and cheap as Nobel Peace Prizes.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 11:10 am #
Oh, one more thing. All you christians WILL be going to hell for bearing false witness about health care reform.
Comment by Matt on 8/20 @ 11:11 am #
william, you’ve got it wrong. Republicans do not hate brown people. Many many brown people hate republicans. Why ? Its very simple. Whether we like it or not, many “people of color” rely on government handouts for pretty much everything. If you’re a “brown person” and one party wants to give you a whole bunch of stuff, make it so you don’t have to work if you don’t want to, pass laws so its easier for you to get a job over a more qualified white person and basically cater to your needs, which you believe should be fullfilled by government. Why in the heck would you support a party that stands for self determination, hard work, fair play, the constitution and morality when you could support a party that just gives you stuff.
Its simple. Many brown toned persons chose the democratic party. The republicans do not keep brown people out – they simple don’t pander to them. And I don’t know if you noticed but the current head of the RNC is black, the last two secretaries of state were black, there’s a black man on the Supreme Court appointed by a republican, etc.
My best friend in law school was black. He worked his ass off to get where he was – he was smart enough and charismatic enough that his color was irrelevant- he succeeded because of the color of his character, not the color of his skin. Its a shame more “brown people” don’t buy into that concept.
Comment by matt on 8/20 @ 11:12 am #
*All you christians WILL be going to hell for bearing false witness about health care reform.*
lol hell huh ? My guess is you’ll end up there long before I do and it won’t have anything to do with health care.
Comment by matt on 8/20 @ 11:14 am #
oh and somewhat off topic. New Host of the View, replacing Hassleback while she’s out- that bastion of conservative thought, Megan McCain.
Comment by ghost707 on 8/20 @ 11:14 am #
I wouldn’t worry too much about the trolls, Obama is done and they know it, no matter how fast and furious they re-arrange the deck chairs.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 11:14 am #
FYI…
NBC & CNN Win 25 Journalism Awards
3-8-08 — The 2008 National Headliner Awards have been announced, CNN leads the pack with 13, NBC follows with 12.
Best Newscast
First Place: NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams
Second Place: CNN – Anderson Cooper 360
Third Place: NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams
Coverage of a Major News Event
First Place: CNN
Second Place: CNN
Third Place: CNN
Continuing Coverage of a Major News Event
First Place: CNN
Second Place: NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams
Third Place: CNN
http://www.nationalheadlinerawards.com/Winners2008
NOTE: Number of awards for FOX News: ZERO
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 11:18 am #
what? nobody likes Fox News? I’m shocked! SHOCKED I say!
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 11:19 am #
oh, your link didn’t work.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 11:20 am #
Willie – I thought you had to go play with yourself.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 11:21 am #
someone with extra time might could have fun seeing if any of these folks have made any political donations.
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 11:22 am #
Performers do seem to have that slave-to-the-audience characteristic dilemma though don’t they maggie? Applaud me you unskilled morons! Award me my just deserts, fools!
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 11:23 am #
http://www.nationalheadlinerawards.com/CurrentRecipients.html
Comment by Pablo on 8/20 @ 11:24 am #
Gee, you’d almost think that the rest of the media establishment doesn’t like them. At least the Foxes can console themselves with this.
Comment by Abe Froman on 8/20 @ 11:24 am #
This william cat is from the moon.
Comment by No One You Know on 8/20 @ 11:24 am #
CNN?
The new organization that admitted, in March, 2003, to allowing the Saddam Hussein regime to censor their news stories regarding Iraq? That “news” organization? Yeah, their awards mean so much when they pimp for Saddam Hussein. This is indeed a disturbing universe……
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 11:26 am #
or shortcut
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 11:27 am #
guilty as charged. ;P
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 11:29 am #
lol…
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2009/08/18/2009-08-18_companies_boycotting_beck_for_bam_bash.html
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 11:29 am #
Obama may or may not be done but Jeffy Immelt’s MSNBC is having to flat out lie to keep our hood rat thug president’s hate campaign alive. The thing about stirring up hate is…
Comment by Spiny Norman on 8/20 @ 11:30 am #
Nice attempt at deflection and stereotyping there, willyboy.
Speaking of stereotyping, how’s this: my guess is that Willy is around age 19, really does live in his mom’s basement and is pounding away on a laptop that someone else paid for.
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 11:32 am #
Heh, I leave you to surmise where I learned about it mk. Still, william’s insistence on the value of awards as a measure of excellence aside from causing snickers, poked at a dormant memory.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 11:32 am #
In any field you have excellence and charlatans. How’s it feel to have the charlatans of media on your side?
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 11:33 am #
Um. Whether Glenn Beck has a show is immaterial to the success of the dirty socialist muppet whose ratings are crashing and burning. Whether any lowest common denominator retard working at any cable news network lives or dies screaming is immaterial to the success of the dirty socialist muppet whose ratings are crashing and burning. Whether some Whole Foods piece of shit executive has a job next week is immaterial to the success of the dirty socialist muppet whose ratings are crashing and burning.
Cable news is for people who struggled through eighth grade.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 11:33 am #
oh, also sdferr, I’ve found there’s nothing quite like self humiliation to gain an adoring audience. ask me how many times I’ve “fallen over” in rehearsal. ;D
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 11:34 am #
Always with the sides william, sides of which you choose to know nothing. You are a goofy jerk.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 11:35 am #
um, ours aren’t the ones giving each other awards…
Comment by Spiny Norman on 8/20 @ 11:35 am #
He’s just a child, sdferr. He’ll grow up someday.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 11:36 am #
ah, spelling. oops.
Comment by BJTexs on 8/20 @ 11:44 am #
Well, william, if higher ratings determines greatest fail then Obama is well on the way to great success.
And, please, continue to throw Google activated links against the wall here. Between Truthout and the 1998 Atlantic story the entertainment value is TEH Awesome!
Comment by Abe Froman on 8/20 @ 11:45 am #
In any field you have excellence and charlatans. How’s it feel to have the charlatans of media on your side?
Again you’re making an argument that’s out of your depth. Before you were engaged in
prattle about MSNBC having an Emmy award winning anchor and a pulitzer prize winning regular. Guess what, moron? Bill O’Reilly has won Emmys. It’s like getting a lollipop from your Tennessee hick doctor after he takes your temp with an anal thermometer. Charles Krauthammer and Paul Gigot are Pulitzer Prize winners and on FOX every day. I didn’t even bother looking for others because the only point is that you’re an imbecile.
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 11:49 am #
Oh, one more thing. All you christians WILL be going to hell for bearing false witness about health care reform.
baahaa haa haaa …
Oh my. Can.Not.Breath.
This is the funniest line of attack to come out of the White House.
Where’s nishi when we
needwanna make fun of her?Comment by Pablo on 8/20 @ 11:50 am #
Geraldo Rivera has won 10 Emmys and a Peabody. And he’s still a fucking idiot…what works at Fox.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 11:52 am #
oh gee, Pablo, that’s all I need to hear. can’t stand that guy.
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 11:53 am #
Maggie, you must reconsider. If he’s won MAJOR AWARDS he must be good, right?
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 11:54 am #
a list of dirty socialist coward ass piece of shit companies what roll over for william type losers
*CVS-Caremark
*Sargento Cheese *GEICO *Ally Bank *Broadview Security *Progressive Insurance *State Farm *Men’s Wearhouse *S.C. Johnson *Lawyers.com *Radio Shack *Healthy Choice (ConAgra) *Plavix (Sanofi-Aventis) *Travelocity
There’s none of that what I buy except maybe some S.C. Johnson shit and probably something ConAgra cause it’s hard not to.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 11:54 am #
Ally Bank sounds kind of sketch I think.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 11:57 am #
hmmm, thinking… thinking… nope, Carin. not happening.
Comment by JHo on 8/20 @ 11:57 am #
Jesus was a collectivist, Carin.
He taught charity and non-violence and the establishment power base, acting on the will of his party, tortured him to death at 33 for it, is how I know.
Jesus as collectivist at the right hand of God, teaching the salvation of establishment envy, theft, and corruption. It’s the oldest myth in the book, so to speak.
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 11:58 am #
S.C JOhnson is, like, soap and shit? I can probably avoid that. CVS, easily avoided. Healthy Choice? No problemo.
Nope, I’m clean. I’m boycotting NBC, personally. Not like I watched anything but there’s a principal involved.
Comment by Spiny Norman on 8/20 @ 12:01 pm #
I’ve been boycotting the Alphabet Networks for years.
Not that I ever watch Fox (National Enquirer TV) either, but still…
Comment by BJTexs on 8/20 @ 12:01 pm #
william plays guitar while America burns.
Et tu, william?
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 12:01 pm #
The group sponsored Wednesday’s call and describes itself on its Web site as “an effort from the faith community to make clear to Congress that quality, affordable health care for every American family is a moral priority for millions of people of faith.”
I read that and I laugh and laugh and laugh.
God COMPELS you to pay for each other’s healthcare. But he doesn’t care so much if you suck your baby into a sink.
Bahaha ahaa haaa.
You Godbotherer’s on the left. KEEP YOUR RELIGIOSITY TO YOURSELF.
heh.
Comment by Squid on 8/20 @ 12:04 pm #
FWIW, Ally Bank is the new brand for GMAC. I wonder why they’d pick now as a time to get rid of their GM link?
Back on topic: before the spread of ubiquitous video recording and cheap video distribution, how long would these media assholes have gotten away with pretending that the fellow with the rifle was an Angry White Male? I’ve heard a lot of Obamabots saying that the news nets did finally get around to admitting the truth, but before YouTube, how long would they have gotten away with misinforming their viewers? Long enough that the correction could be buried, is my guess.
Comment by cranky-d on 8/20 @ 12:09 pm #
I guess they figure that if they tell enough lies, some will slip through the cracks. Plus, they know that their fellow travelers will not hold them to account for it.
Comment by A fine scotch on 8/20 @ 12:18 pm #
I wonder if william knows that all of those companies that are “boycotting” Beck have not in any way changed the amount of money they’re spending with Fox. Or that a bunch of them never had advertising on his specific show. Or that a couple are moving their ad dollars from certain time slots but not others and Fox is still getting of that cash…
Say, what was william’s point?
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 12:23 pm #
He has a point?
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 12:24 pm #
usually when you buy ads on a cable net you don’t specify shows at all – maybe dayparts but usually not shows… so mr. scotch is right to that extent
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 12:26 pm #
Guess what, moron? Bill O’Reilly has won Emmys.
O’Reilly’s Emmys were “local Emmys”that he won in the 70’s and 1980 – almost 20 years before his success on Fox.
Moron.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 12:26 pm #
Contessa Brewer should be fired cause of she’s a racist cunt though.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 12:27 pm #
Let’s go see what this racist cunt looks like. brb.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 12:31 pm #
oh. she looks sort of low rent and not very well put together I think. Can we use the word newsfloozie or is that sexist?
Comment by Ric Locke on 8/20 @ 12:33 pm #
I’ve been bitching for years about this. It’s the downside of MacLuhan’s “fifteen minutes of fame” for the “news” people”.
Anybody, anybody at all, who’s ever been involved with something that “makes the news” knows that the result ranges from errors made out of pig-ignorance to bald-faced lies building on stereotypes. What happens then is that the person thus profiled becomes suspicious — if they’re wrong or lying about that, which I know they are because I was there, what else are they wrong or lying about?
And, as more and more people get their fifteen minutes, the level of trust for the news media goes down. Right now it’s reached the point where they can’t make a living, because they aren’t useful to anybody: the ones they insult know they’re lying and don’t trust them on any other subject, and the ones they cater to can get their strokes from other places that are cheaper and easier to access.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by ghost707 on 8/20 @ 12:34 pm #
There was a reason Martin Luther King was a Republican.
The left is showing us exactly why.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 12:34 pm #
And the award winning networks took their awards with satisfaction, knowing that they could support one of the bloodthirstiest dictators in recent memory, shill out his propaganda for the ability to be in his country to shill out his propaganda, admit that they were part of the propaganda arm of a maniacal bloody-handed dictator, and still they would receive awards for journalistic excellence.
For some reason, I don’t view those ‘journalism awards’ given to a bunch of press flacks for a bloody dictator as having any value.
But I can understand MSNBC doctoring their clip to imply that the balck man with the rifle is actually a white man – they want some of those ‘journalism awards’ also!
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 12:35 pm #
I’m not sure you can use that term until she’s done Ab News, hf.
Comment by Pablo on 8/20 @ 12:36 pm #
Oh, like last May, Billy? You are a dumb fuck, aren’t you?
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 12:36 pm #
Ab News. brb.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 12:37 pm #
take your time…
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 12:38 pm #
Got it.
Comment by Ric Locke on 8/20 @ 12:54 pm #
…as for awards, like the Pulitzer, they can be fun, but anybody outside the business who takes them seriously is an idiot. Everybody who’s allowed to participate in the nomination and selection process is in the business, and the result is (as it must be) self-referential to the point of solipsism.
There’s a reason things like that are called “circle jerks”. They’re awarding one another points for speed, stroke length, and volume produced. If anything, such an award is a strong clue that the individual thus honored is unlikely to reproduce beyond the clan.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 1:12 pm #
ewww, kind of. Let me read that again.
Yup. There’s a definite ick factor.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 1:27 pm #
Pablo,
O’Reilly’s Emmy last year was not for journalistic excellence. It was awarded by a local chapter as a career award because he is from Boston.
Look at this years nominees for the National News Awards: Over-the-Air, Cable, Satellite and Internet Broadcast Nominees.
http://www.emmyonline.org/mediacenter/news_30th_nominations.html
PBS 41
CBS 23
ABC 13
National Geographic 12
NBC 10
CNN 8
Discovery Channel 4
BBC America 3
MSNBC 2
Nytimes.com 2
Washingtonpost.com 2
not even ONE SINGLE NOMINATION for Fox News. lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 1:30 pm #
wow, so they’ll let anyone have an Emmy. you’d think they would protect their brand a bit better.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 1:30 pm #
BTW – No ‘death panels’? The VA is providing veterans with pamphlets that do counsel suicide if the veteran feels he is a burden, is depressed, etc.
http://online.wsj.com/article/
SB10001424052970204683204574358590107981718.html
So Billy – why don’t you go suck start a .38? Pres. Obama would be proud of you!
You do want to make him proud of you, don’t you?
Comment by BJTexs on 8/20 @ 1:31 pm #
william continues to operate under the delusion that anyone on this blog gives an albino rat’s ass what awards news organizations give to each other.
Poor, poor, william. The obtuse, it is strong in this one, Obi-won!
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 1:34 pm #
It’s like when Michael Moore wins an Oscar.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 1:34 pm #
So Maggie, how’s it feel down there in Bush land where you get your news, like most Americans from the trough of the most unprofessional news organization in the USA? http://www.newshounds.us/
They sure do well on tits. http://foxnewsporn.com/
Probably why Palin was the perfect GOP candidate.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 1:36 pm #
you don’t know where I get my news from, william.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 1:37 pm #
you ass.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 1:37 pm #
ObamaCare turns out to be a ’shovel ready’ project – and that’s what’s gotten everyone nervous.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 1:38 pm #
Mikey, I’ve heard it billed as “Making grandma shovel-ready!”
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/20 @ 1:40 pm #
What any of williams comments have to do with MSNBC cropping a photo of a black man so you couldn’t tell what race he was so they could more effectively use it as a segway to smear people going to townhall meetings as white racists is beyond me.
So far we got slams against one cable news channel, check. Hatred for Palin, check. Talk of right wing extremists, check. Regional christianist party, check. Birthers, check.
Charles Johnson is that you?
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 1:41 pm #
Contessa Brewer is a dirty socialist whore and we’re getting away from that I think Mr. Pink.
Comment by seany on 8/20 @ 1:42 pm #
The REAL story here is that the guy doing the interview(also wielding a handgun) is a self-described friend and defender of a militia called the “Viper Group”, 12 members of whom were sent to prison for a plot to blow up federal buildings. Look it up.
The african american man being interviewed talks of armed resistance to taxes and other crazy stuff. So, we have proven that the far right gun nut extremists have become more diverse, yet are just as crazy as ever.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 1:43 pm #
No for reals the REAL STORY is that Contessa Brewer is a dirty socialist whore.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/20 @ 1:43 pm #
Oh sorry hf I haven’t been on the internet lately. Your thoughts are duly noted.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 8/20 @ 1:45 pm #
I think willy would be better served phoning his democrat legislators and haranguing them to pass the medical reform bill. What with their super majorities and all. PASS THE FUCKER, fuckers! Whatcha waiting for?
Right William.
I mean emmys? Jeezus. Talk about missing the alignment of the stars and the convergence of fortune. Can’t let the shit slip by can you? U may never get it back again, the perfect storm. Why waste time berating backward xtian racists what belong to a misogynistic, 99% white regional party.
LETS PUT OURSELVES IN THE HISTORY BOOKS. Lets pass the bill with our stupendous majorities.
LETS.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 1:46 pm #
I saw you over at Mr. Patterico’s the other day. They can get really sort of self-righteousy over there. It just flares up like a brush fire and I think you got the brunt of some of that. And then it goes away and everyone is mostly normal for awhile until the next time. It’s very odd.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 1:46 pm #
hey, that shit wins AWARDS!!! you will recognize!
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 1:47 pm #
72% of self-identified FOX News viewers believe the health-care plan will give coverage to illegal immigrants, 79% of them say it will lead to a government takeover, 69% think that it will use taxpayer dollars to pay for abortions, and 75% believe that it will allow the government to make decisions about when to stop providing care for the elderly.
These points are simply false – have been debunked over and over yet the idiots still believe.
http://mediamatters.org/research/200908190053
This is nothing new.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/714.html
Brought to you by the same science denying creationists. I think of all the idiots of the world, many are in TX
http://www.salon.com/env/feature/2009/03/28/texas_evolution_case/
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 1:48 pm #
Mr. Pink said: What any of williams comments have to do with MSNBC cropping a photo of a black man so you couldn’t tell what race he was so they could more effectively use it as a segway to smear people going to townhall meetings as white racists is beyond me.
Something vile and inexcusable was done by MSNBC, so the response is ‘Rush! Birthers! Fox News! Palin! Oh, sweet God, why won’t this work! Uh, uh, Bush! No, Palin, no Fox News, Fox News!’
Pretty standard behavior for someone trying to defend the indefensible, when the easier response would be to agree that it is indefensible and drop the subject. Instead, the little turnip-twaddler continues to make a giant thread so he can spin, spin – and continue to hear comments saying ‘But what about MSNBC’s actions cropping the video to imply that white people are coming to townhall meetings armed when the video is of a black man?’
Instead of letting it die, he continues to feed the storm – and by feeding it he proves just how important the story actually is.
Billy-boy isn’t being too successful, and he isn’t too bright. He should go get one of those VA pamphlets and think seriously about how he is such an emotional burden to his family, and think of doing right by them for a change.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 8/20 @ 1:49 pm #
Seany, he is not african american. He’s an Uncle Tom, that what forgot his place on the porch. Uppity negro could get sent back to the fields if ain’t careful.
Get it straight.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 1:50 pm #
*snerk* ROVE YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!!!
Comment by dicentra on 8/20 @ 1:51 pm #
William, I’m not going to bother reading your linked screeds. On the Internet, you can find something to support anything, and the fact that it’s an MSM source makes it less plausible in this neck of the ’sphere. And you don’t read my links, so why bother?
I’m still trying to understand what brings you here to PW. Your initial posts have always been jeering and sneering and condescension and accusations of ignorance and stuff.
Why? Why PW? Most of us here are college-educated and can argue you under the table. If you want to sneer at idiots, go to Democratic Underground or Free Republic or 4chan or a furry blog. PW is not the place to find empty heads, but then, you’ve never been on one of Jeff’s threads.
Also, what motivates you to sail over to an opposing blog just to call the denizens stupid? I’ve never done that! If I ever comment on an opposing blog, it’s to clarify a point, provide additional information, or refute a point. I’m always courteous, fact-oriented, and never assume that my readers are morons. I also don’t expect to be agreed with, but that’s OK.
Seriously, what up? Are you so insecure that you need to put us down to feel like you’re — what, superior? correct? That’s kind of sad. If you are insecure in your convictions, the best way to strengthen them is do research.
Also, maybe you’ve noticed that it’s very difficult to persuade people that they’re dead wrong, even when you post link after link. There’s so much information out there that everyone has their trusted sources and the rest are ignored and discounted. I have mine; you have yours, and we choose our sources depending on our experiences, not on how smart we are.
I’ve also noticed that you’re not very good at refuting specific arguments. You always pick up on some little detail or comment, not on the thrust of the argument, and you argue something off to the side, something you feel secure about. Most of the time, you don’t even comprehend our initial assumptions (except to know that they’re WRONG and IGNORANT).
Intelligent people can disagree 180° on subjects without it being a question of who’s the smart one and who is ignernt. I just worry that you’ve adopted your stances primarily because you want to be one of the smart ones, one of the educated class, the “cool kids,” not because you understand the assumptions and consequences of your positions but because you like what it says about you to the people whose opinions you value.
As it turns out, one of the main reasons we differ from you is because we have different priorities. We prefer liberty over security, principles over personalities, substance over style, long-term over short-term, individualism over the collective.
And priorities are a matter of taste, not intelligence. It’s a lot easier to share your space with those who think differently than you when you accept this.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/20 @ 1:52 pm #
“Comment by william on 8/20 @ 11:14 am #
FYI…
NBC & CNN Win 25 Journalism Awards”
And Benedict Arnold was a war hero.
What’s your point?
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 1:55 pm #
william, what happened to your reflections on your self-destructive behaviors when you write about political things? Did you just forget? Or did you miss the vitriol you spew so much you couldn’t let it go? Or is it just a second wind, you’ve gotten your strength back, so return to the salt mine to give it another ol’ college try?
But hey, your best beloved “smart guy” is still President, so by definition, isn’t all right with the world?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/20 @ 1:55 pm #
Hmmmm…
“Latest ratings out for the second quarter of 2009 show the top-rated FNC having one of the best quarters in its entire history with prime-time ratings jumping an astounding 34%, not all of them Obama fans. That 8-11 p.m. slot is crucial for viewers — and ad dollars — which includes Fox’s showcase “The O’Reilly Factor.”
Throughout the viewing day, Fox News did even better with its 1.2 million viewers, on average, more than doubling CNN’s 598,000 and more than tripling third-place trailer MSNBC’s average audience of 392,000.”
Hmmmmm…..
Comment by LTC John on 8/20 @ 1:55 pm #
C”able news is for people who struggled through eighth grade.”
I can believe that for MSNBC, for the above mentioned “editing” (ha!). I rather like CNBC at mid-day, myself.
Has MSNBC commented on this yet?
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 1:56 pm #
Duh, N. O’Brain! The awards mean that MSNBC did something vile by implying a white man was carrying a rifle when it was actually a black man! And the awards prove that other journalists agree that filthy lying is what wins them awards, so what MSNBC done is vile, it is approved by the other journalists, so those journalists are also vile.
Billy-boy just helped you realize that.
Comment by Makewi on 8/20 @ 1:57 pm #
A black guy bringing a gun is some pretty awesome “black friend”-ing.
Awesome. Do you get bonus points for keeping the slur alive while moving the conversation to safer ground?
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/20 @ 1:58 pm #
242
Yeah I remember. No biggie though, I care more about my navel lint than what some random person on the internet I’ve never met typing insults to me thinks.
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 1:59 pm #
oh, he’s been on one of Jeff’s threads before dicentra. He even got a trackback on that thread from serr8d.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 8/20 @ 2:00 pm #
I think we all at PW should wish him well in his quest to get the democratic party to vote for their holy grail, single payer medical coverage, while they have the majorities in both houses and the Presidency.
I mean its what I would do. Instead of wasting time arguing people who are, allegedly, so in the minority on the issue and, more importantly, don;t have the power to stop it.
C’MON WILLIAM TELL YOUR FOLKS TO PASS THE BILL. PASS IT.
What are you so chickenshit scared for?
Comment by Salt Lick on 8/20 @ 2:02 pm #
William’s farewell to political blogging
We won. Game over. As I posted last week, I am resigning from political blogging.
I vote William the “Bret Favre Blog Quitter” Award!
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 2:04 pm #
CNBC is different but that is a very very narrow demographic. Smart people. Money.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 2:05 pm #
oh no, Salt Lick, if you give him an award it’s game over, man.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 2:05 pm #
I like Texas there’s a hotel in Mineral Wells, Texas where Bonnie and Clyde stayed once.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 8/20 @ 2:05 pm #
258
Hehe. In Brett’s defense though it is the losers at ESPN that follow him around daily bugging the shit outa him trying to get him to say if he will retire or unretire depending on the day of the week. I hope he is doing all this just to mess with them.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 2:10 pm #
You’re right. Let’s all be positive and enjoy the good things. Life is very good.
BTW … wow…
Usain Bolt 200m WR: 19.19
Comment by dicentra on 8/20 @ 2:12 pm #
In other news, John Cox (of Cox & Forkum) is auctioning off a set of baseball paintings (laser prints). They’re the only ones in existence. So if you like baseball and need something for the den…
Comment by Makewi on 8/20 @ 2:17 pm #
Would someone please give william a hug? He seems very agitated that people aren’t being forced to believe what he does.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 8/20 @ 2:17 pm #
happy,
cnbc ain’t all that. except for looking at Michelle Caruso Cabrera’s fun bags at the lunch hour (which is what I think the goof Ltc was alluding to), they are pretty piss worthless. Most smart money people don;t watch them for any money insight.
Fuck – look at Jim Kramer.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 8/20 @ 2:18 pm #
goof = good. typink suks
Comment by dicentra on 8/20 @ 2:24 pm #
oh, he’s been on one of Jeff’s threads before dicentra.
Ah! It doesn’t look like I was on that thread. But W. hasn’t changed, has he? It’s all about polls, popularity, and elitism (which he mistakes for “skill” when it’s actually an aristocratic attitude toward one’s fellow citizens).
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 2:24 pm #
oh. All I know is CNBC has like no audience it’s just that they have a very rich no audience. Fox Business I never have seen except a little online and I don’t hear about very much. Michelle Caruso Cabrera I will have to goggle.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 2:25 pm #
wow. she looks like she has a lot of … personality.
Comment by Salt Lick on 8/20 @ 2:25 pm #
oh no, Salt Lick, if you give him an award it’s game over, man.
Don’t worry, maggie, the recipient must relinquish title the first time they write the words “but Bush.”
Comment by Michelle Caruso Cabrera on 8/20 @ 2:26 pm #
hey, my personality is up here!
Comment by royf on 8/20 @ 2:28 pm #
wet willy is a stupid one but I have to say he is fanatical. He talks about how ignorant the American people are yet never mentions how they got so educated. The great liberal clap trap which is the Department of Education. wet willy gets his news from moveon. org most likely, but I have to say there is something really special about a bunch of loser journalists voting each other awards. They are meaningless they are for staying on the plantation and accepting the group think. They learned that in college from the radical anti-establishment pony tailed professor who is afraid of the real world but will gladly take dollars as long as he’s allowed to pose like he’s really accomplished something. He hasn’t…….
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 2:33 pm #
I see wee willie wanker got done waxing the weasel and did not find the sweet sweet release he so desperately craves, so in order to feel better about himself, feels compelled to come here and claim superiority. He is really just trying to cover for his inadequacy in being unable to pleasure even himself.
Comment by BJTexs on 8/20 @ 2:34 pm #
Methinks william, if he’s the same william from TN loose canon is feeling anxious and lashing out.
Methinks william had a vision of fundamental cathartic change, one that would shake the very foundations of the legislative process and the role of government in our lives from defender to benevolent Uncle Charley.
Methinks william can’t believe that after the joyous release of the oppressive Bushhitler that this transformation hasn’t produced immediate results.
Methinks william is confused and anxious as to the continued incarceration of poor brown people in Gitmo and positively panic stricken that domestic wiretapping is still a go.
Methinks william is bewildered by the continued presence of US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan with with no near end in sight.
Methinks william is in despair that the Waxman/Markley Cap & Trade bill is pretty much dead this year even though it passed the house with a generous helping of porcine incentives for certain house members.
Methinks william has staked his entire peace of mind and transcendent feelings of political victory on the mother lode of Single Payer Government Health care and the very fact that, with majorities in both houses, his own party can’t pull it off and the country is abandoning the bill, unwilling to give up their rights and live with trillions of future deficits is inconceivable and maddening.
Methinks william sees the falling polls for Obama and the cratering support for the government option and simply can’t believe it.
In short, methinks william is very, very angry and, since he can’t possibly express that anger to the one transformational ONE who was to make all of his proto-progressive dreams come true, he has reverted to a place he said he wouldn’t go. Because, after all, it must be us “stingy, biased, miserly” conservatives, the long form cartoon reich winger rabble that plays in his head and he Must. Do. Something.
Methinks william only said that because he thought he would never have to say it again in a world run by Obama and the progressive wing of the DNC. The very stark fact that none of it is coming to pass and, in fact, it’s rapidly falling apart is simply too much.
Methinks william has experienced a mellow harsh so profound, so utterly at odds with his expectations that he must find a reason why, despite being cruely repudiated, that people like us won’t just, in Obama’s words, “…stop talking and get out of the way.”
Methinks that william is a fine little cocksure budding fascist whose progressive uber-command vision is fading like a sun soaked dark colored T-shirt and IT JUST ISN’T RIGHT! WE WON! WHY IS THIS SO HARD?
Methinks william is headed for a breakdown, quite possibly. Stay tuned.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 2:35 pm #
The dumberest ones are called the Peabody awards I think. Click to find out which award winner gives “Hollywood … an affectionately merciless tweaking.” It’s just so naughty.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 2:42 pm #
Happyfeet – You aren’t going to leave us hanging on that link to Michelle Caruso Cabrera, are you?
Comment by geoffb on 8/20 @ 2:51 pm #
I used to watch MSNBC way back when the “MS” stood for Microsoft instead of the “More Shit” that is does now.
Comment by BJTexs on 8/20 @ 2:53 pm #
Heh! In looking at william’s archive’s, i found this little gem written the day after the election of Obama:
Ha! How’s that working out for you, william?
Comment by cranky-d on 8/20 @ 2:53 pm #
Whenever I see “Peabody” I think of Mr. Peabody, the time-traveling dog.
Comment by geoffb on 8/20 @ 2:54 pm #
Re: #248
I suspect money is involved and 3 ring binders.
Comment by cranky-d on 8/20 @ 2:55 pm #
Poor william. He looked forward to the end of “the perpetual campaign mentality” and discovered that campaigning is all the Obamessiah knows.
Comment by TendStl on 8/20 @ 2:56 pm #
Heres my shot at it:
http://twitpic.com/emmn1
Comment by geoffb on 8/20 @ 2:57 pm #
The “J. Bynum”, “HR 3200″ guy also posts as peabody.
Comment by maggie katzen on 8/20 @ 3:00 pm #
RTO did too. mostly because at the time, they were doing more straight news than commentary than CNN.
Comment by geoffb on 8/20 @ 3:04 pm #
James Taranto writes on the AP article that william is so fond of.
Comment by royf on 8/20 @ 3:05 pm #
william this is why everything is getting so screwed up.
Obama: everything gets ‘wee-weed’ up in D.C. in August
@ 3:04 pm by Michael O’Brien
President Obama is betting on a more successful September than August, when it comes to his bid for healthcare reform.
At an online forum on healthcare held Thursday at the Democratic National Committee (DNC), Obama drew on his own political experience to predict better fortunes next month.
“There’s something about August going into September where everyone in Washington gets all ‘wee-weed’ up,”
That is some class, The man is a Chicago thug. Admittedly a very expensive one but people are starting to see what a arrogant narcissist he really is. I don’t see the lapdog media being able to keep him afloat, He knows nothing about middle America or every had to deliver real results in his life. But william “that is your party, not mine”
Comment by Salt Lick on 8/20 @ 3:06 pm #
JD — I think this may be something you want to see.
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 3:08 pm #
Looks like glued on M&M’s to me Salt Lick, but then I’m hopelessly addicted to chocolate.
Comment by nikkolai on 8/20 @ 3:10 pm #
Ol’ William here has totally changed my mind. I have reversed my political position from Classical Liberal to drooling cross-eyed Moonbat because of his compelling ramblings here. Eleventy!!!111!!!!!
Comment by Salt Lick on 8/20 @ 3:13 pm #
Looks like glued on M&M’s to me Salt Lick, but then I’m hopelessly addicted to chocolate.
OK, you just read what you wrote right there, sdferr, and tell me how you’re not fantasizing right here in public.
Comment by BJTexs on 8/20 @ 3:13 pm #
OMG! Set your TiVo’s, bitches. Meghan McCain will guest host “The View!” lulz
If you strapped me into a chair, scotch taped my eyes open and charbroiled my feet, I would still find a way to avoid watching that political foam head.
Comment by Spiny Norman on 8/20 @ 3:14 pm #
Poor william is still masturbating over strawman stereotypes. So sad.
He thinks he’s scoring points for, as Ric so perfectly described them, “speed, stroke length, and volume produced”, but the adults in the room just roll their eyes and chuckle.
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 3:17 pm #
well, yes, errrr, no, but, no wait, choc-, erm, aw t’hell wid it, candy coated goodness ain’t no fantasy bubba.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 3:23 pm #
#273 royf: Not moveon.og; truthout.
How many business hours now?
Comment by royf on 8/20 @ 3:33 pm #
#295 Mikey NTH LOL! yeah your right. Let’s see I think it was what 21 indictments, Sooo! it must be like 24 business hours right?
Comment by Rusty on 8/20 @ 3:34 pm #
I’m beginin’ ta think ole billy is a tweeker.
He also believes everything he reads. two words, bill, critical thinking. Work on it.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 3:47 pm #
All in good fun … just recreation. But, I do fear for America. Stupidity and ignorance are rampant as America falls behind the rest of the industrialized world. Americans belief in pseudoscience has given America the distinction of having the most scientifically illiterate populace in all of the industrialized world. You have media propaganda that has spawned the ‘birthers’ and the ‘deathers’. As a 20 year college professor, I find it amazing the lack of ability for American college students to even write the English language. Most often, the kids that are bilingual that are foreign born or have foreign born parents are the best writers and highest achieving students. I see this year after year in a general music humanities course I teach for non-majors – my only exposure to the University students outside of my field.
You gotta laugh though. Bill Maher nailed it. What America needs are not townhalls, they need study halls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtXFTKz4Ii8
Good luck. Glad I brought the most comments to your blog that you’ve had in some time.
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 8/20 @ 3:47 pm #
He’s tired of it, but he doesn’t stop. I didn’t realize that being insulting is like smoking.
Comment by lina on 8/20 @ 3:52 pm #
wait….i thought willie was a guitar teacher….now he’s a college professor? is he a college guitar professor? if that’s the case then hahaha! i love nothing better than academic moralizing from a professor of the fine art of finger plucking
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 3:58 pm #
It is just recreation to note that wee willie buggers underage goats and plays hide the salami with his right fist. Careful to not grab the pumice lotion when you lube that thing up, willie. You are a prime fucking example with what is wrong with our education system, and are too blind to know it. Your mommy told you it would make you go blind.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/20 @ 4:03 pm #
“Americans belief in pseudoscience has given America the distinction of having the most scientifically illiterate populace in all of the industrialized world.”
The NEA believes in pseudoscience?
Well, they do keep pushing the global warming myth on unsuspecting kids, so I guess you’re right.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/20 @ 4:04 pm #
“As a 20 year college professor…”
Have you ever been sued for malpractice?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/20 @ 4:05 pm #
What school?
I don’t want granddaughter to go there.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 4:08 pm #
I suspect if people are taking guitar classes in college from an aging dope-smoking hipster, instead of taking math or science, that could explain the dearth of real scientists. Wee willie is doing his part to ensure that future generations of college grads know how to play Puff the Magic Dragon on the banjo. Woot!
Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/20 @ 4:09 pm #
” I see things very clear. Obama’s health care plan will be, one, written by a committee whose head says he doesn’t understand it — that would be John Conyers — his health care plan will be, two, passed by Congress that has not read it; number three, signed by a president who smokes; four, funded by a Treasury chief who didn’t pay his taxes; five, overseen by a Surgeon General who is obese; and, six, financed by a country that’s nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong with this?”
-Rush Limbaugh
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 4:11 pm #
Belief in pseudoscience: Al Gore and man-made global warming.
Media propaganda that spawns birthers and deathers: The award-winning media Billy-boy was championing.
Ignorant American students: Your profession that you, as a ‘20 year professor’ are condemning.
Thanks for walking back everything you have said; including condemning MSNBC for its vile behavior.
Comment by Ric Locke on 8/20 @ 4:12 pm #
william’s credentials aren’t in question. On the Internet you can be anything and claim anything.
William, it would no doubt surprise you to learn that the majority view here would agree, if with some qualifications, with your #298. It does seem a little odd that you and the other folk who opine as you do are so concerned about, e.g., scientific illiteracy — which is, as you say, rampant — but are eager to take advantage of it when it advances your causes (AGW, “environmentalism”, “renewable power”). But there’s no doubt that there’s a severe lack of critical thinking about, and a lot of people substituting ideological purity for it. The only thing is, you really, really need to take a close look in your mirror before upbraiding us for it.
The reason this blog is slipping in the blogoverse is that Our Host has gotten burned out trying to push that rock up the hill. Darleen and the others are trying, and doing good work, but they ain’t Jeff. We miss him, too.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by lina on 8/20 @ 4:15 pm #
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 4:08 pm #
for reals! way to contribute to higher learning willie!!
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 4:24 pm #
No, the reason this blog is slipping is because of ignorance and intellectual dishonesty. Darleen is a confirmed ‘deather’ … probably a ‘birther’ too. This whole campaign of misinformation will have it’s consequences. Obama has been trying to reach across the aisle and what does he get? Political terrorism in the form of lies coming from the right and now people carrying guns to his appearances. It’s over. The Obama doesn’t need to reach out anymore. He has the votes and a mandate to implement policy. The right had a chance to be involved in a civil debate but no, all they could do is carry on about ’socialism,’ ‘Nazis’ and ‘death panels’ and the lie du jour … they’ve essentially proved that they are unable to carry on a debate. As Barney Frank said, it would be “like talking to a dining room table.” As one other congressman said, “I’ve got the facts on my side, you’ve got Glenn Beck on your.”
lol~~~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 4:27 pm #
Yeah, here’s Obama trying to reach across the aisle by telling a radio audience an outright lie.
Comment by Barrack Milhouse Obama on 8/20 @ 4:29 pm #
Damn straight, william, it is all about ME! When are you dumbfuckes and hicktards gonna get that through your heads? It isn’t about policy, it is all about OBAMA!
Comment by lina on 8/20 @ 4:32 pm #
political terrorism?? good lord
fyi – Obama and Congress never needed to reach out..the only reason they’ve even ‘tried’ is because they don’t want to own it…if they own it then they can’t hide their agenda behind ‘bi-partisan’ agreement
Comment by A fine scotch on 8/20 @ 4:35 pm #
Barack “I won” Obama reaches across the aisle? Really?
Comment by Lesley on 8/20 @ 4:38 pm #
dicentra #248
Great comment.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 4:38 pm #
Willie the magic retard lives in a holler.
Comment by guinsPen on 8/20 @ 4:38 pm #
As a 20 year college professor, I find it amazing the lack of ability for American college students to even write the English language.
Sweet.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 4:42 pm #
Do you frolic in the autumn mist, willie?
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 4:44 pm #
I don’t understand how dirty socialist health cares would make my life better and if they were so great why do SEIU greasy thug labor union employees and veterans and congressional douchebags like Barbara Boxer all make sure they’re exempt? I don’t get that.
Comment by Ric Locke on 8/20 @ 4:44 pm #
Obama, Pelosi, and Reid have indeed been “trying to reach across the aisle” by their own definition — which is to say, “agree with me totally and we won’t demonize you any more than normally.” This from people who’ve been shrieking for the last eight and a half years that “dissent is the highest form of patriotism!” If you could disagree with Bush (and me) about the desirability of war in Iraq without being unAmerican, I can damn well disagree with you (and Obama) about how to finance health care without being a right-wing extremist.
You have, supposedly, the votes to run roughshod over the rest of us with impunity. In reality, of course, you don’t, for the same reason Pelosi & Co. didn’t stop the war in 2006: the new Democrats you’ve enlisted are from conservative Districts, and are being told by their constituents that if they vote for that crap they’d better be wary of penalty clauses on any long-term leases on DC housing. The only reason they’re making any attempt whatever at “bipartisonship” is so they can share the blame when the whole thing falls over, explodes, and bleeds radiation all around.
And that, in turn, is because you’ve elected an ignoramus. Not, mind you, a stupid person — Barack Obama is clearly well above average in native intelligence. But he has never had a single formative influence from the right of, say, Trotsky in his entire life, and all his political experience comes from participating in the Chicago machine. He has no idea, not the first one, of what the American middle-class and lower experience is like, has no idea how Americans who don’t come from the soi-disant elite think, and makes stupid misjudgements because of that. You don’t have enough boots on the ground to deal with dissent by kneecapping the dissenters’ nephews, william, and you aren’t likely to get it.
You most especially aren’t gonna get it by demonizing half or better of the population, and the sign and sigil of that is “people carrying guns to [Obama's] appearances”. Guns are tools, william, dead hunks of iron and plastic that do nothing without a hand attached to a mind. If there’s anybody around who wants to kill President Obama, that person is a nut case a la Squeaky Fromme (who just got let out of jail, BTW). And if people are starting to treat guns as fetishes — which some are, no doubt about it — you have only yourself to thank for trying to impute sentience to rocks. The word is “backlash”.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 4:49 pm #
The only bipartisanship the Dems understand is the far Left working with the Left and the moderate Left. Barcky has never had a bipartisan impulse beyond that drivel he reads off of TOTUS.
Comment by Christopher Taylor on 8/20 @ 4:50 pm #
I agree, its time for the Democrats to step up and stop blaming Republicans for their failures. They have all the power they need; they will take all the blame they deserve in 2010.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 4:50 pm #
william:
Obama has been trying to reach across the aisle…
“I won.”
Some reach across the aisle there, pal.
Comment by newrouter on 8/20 @ 4:55 pm #
some pigs are more equal. especially chitown pigs.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 5:00 pm #
You know, there was a presidential candidate last year who was a pillar of bipartisanship (so much that his base hated him). His name is Seantor John McCain, and he penned a stinker of a letter to Sen. Obama (anyone got a link to it?) when newbie Sen. Obama reneged on a pledge to Sen. McCain to work for bipartisan solutions.
Puh-lease, Billy-boy – where has the Unicorn Rider ever shown the willingness to compromise that constitutes bipartisanship?
And thank you again for condemning the media whose awards you were so fond of earlier; by condemning them you raise the status of the media organization that has not received prizes that are proof-positive of membership in propaganda media.
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 5:01 pm #
There is so much wrong with 310, I guess it’s pointless.
No, the reason this blog is slipping is because of ignorance and intellectual dishonesty. Darleen is a confirmed ‘deather’ … probably a ‘birther’ too. This whole campaign of misinformation will have it’s consequences.
This is not intellectual dishonesty. This is a DISAGREEMENT regarding what the bill means. You say that portion of the bill means people will be able to have nice little conversations with … who the hell knows … about their end of life issues. WE say that this is an open door to who knows what. We are CONCERNED. We don’t TRUST you or Obama or the Democrats. Remember way back when they first started banning smoking here and there. And “we” said, soon it will be illegal to smoke in your own house, and you guys laughed and said “Oh no, this is for the children …. yada yada yada …” and now it’s just about illegal to smoke anywhere, and illegal if you live in an apartment building in certain regions.
Obama has been trying to reach across the aisle and what does he get?
WHERE? ONE EXAMPLE PLEASE . PLEASE.
Political terrorism in the form of lies coming from the right and now people carrying guns to his appearances. It’s over.
Fucking nuts. The right has not even gotten close to the level of insanity we saw from the left for the last 7 years. Assassination plays, remember those?
The Obama doesn’t need to reach out anymore.
He never did. LIe
He has the votes and a mandate to implement policy.
Than what’s the problem? Go ahead and vote.
The right had a chance to be involved in a civil debate but no, all they could do is carry on about ’socialism,’ ‘Nazis’ and ‘death panels’ and the lie du jour …
Again with that lie.
they’ve essentially proved that they are unable to carry on a debate. As Barney Frank said, it would be “like talking to a dining room table.”
See, now this is the trick. You assholes have been asked plenty of questions. Here, all over the fucking internet about this and other policies coming out of the white house. The jedi mind trick you’ve all been trying – is to IGNORE every reasonable question (shit, ask anyone here how OFTEN we’ve tried to get a reasonable discussion going) and then respond to either 1) the WAcko fringe or 2) LIE about what the right is concerned about.
You fuckers are ruining our country.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 5:02 pm #
What is both the most amusing and most annoying is that willie/jones/racist goat-buggerer did not argue with actual people and their actual positions. He spammed a bunch of links from Soros’ sites, and argued with the voices of the caricatures in his head. Lithium might help.
RACISTS
Comment by geoffb on 8/20 @ 5:12 pm #
Kindly, sensitive, government care. Coming to a hospital near you ASAP, Barry gar-ron-tees.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 5:13 pm #
If willie wants a real discussion, maybe he could tell us how they will pay for this. Then, he can show us what they will do differently than they do with Medicare, which by Barcky’s own words, is the greatest strain on the national debt. Then, you can tell us what they will do to contain costs. Then, you can show us how it will be more efficient. Then, you can show us how a pubic option will not drive out private carriers. Then, you can show is that if we are capable of all of the above, why is it not being done in the VA, Medicare, and the Indian reservation system. I will not patiently wait for your response. Frankly, I can predict your response. Wait a minute while I go pound my temple with a rubber mallet and shoot a nail gun in my forehead, while getting a lobotomy. Whatever comes out after the completion of same is going to be quite comparable to Willie the Racist Hilljack’s response.
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 5:16 pm #
Also, added to the questions that liberals never answer – why, oh why, are unions and government employees going to be exempt for this and how does that make you feel?
Comment by royf on 8/20 @ 5:19 pm #
Yeah I can hardly wait to see Obamacare The People’s Health Department do for the healthcare, what the Department of Education has done with our school system.
Hey we’ll all die in a waiting rm and we’ll be to stupid to read the magazines, Hope and Change………
Comment by Ric Locke on 8/20 @ 5:21 pm #
One other Point to Ponder™:
All of the Presidential assassinations, attempted and successful, over the last half-century (and, arguably, over the last century) have been at the hands of people espousing Leftist ideals and spouting Leftist ideology.
No? Name the exception.
It ain’t right-wing extremists you need to be wary of, Barry. It’s the Dohrns and Frommes who don’t think you’re Leftist enough.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 5:29 pm #
“We think that the key is cost control, competition, making sure that people have good, quality options. If we’re able to achieve that, that’s the end that we’re seeking. And the means, you know, we can have some good arguments about what the best way to achieve it is, but we’ve got to change, because the status quo is unsustainable. ” — President Barack Obama, today on conservative talk radio
You should read the interview. Stay informed.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/20/AR2009082002660.html
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 5:29 pm #
Yeah I can hardly wait to see Obamacare The People’s Health Department do for the healthcare, what the Department of Education has done with our school system.
I’ve got a good one for you. Recently enrolled my oldest in school for the first time (we homeschooled) and I didn’t know which High school was “ours.” East or West. I went to East, and was told he could go there, but we were actually “West” kids. Went to the administration (for testing) where they asked which one we wanted to go to, since we were in “West’s” area … yada ydad yada.
Decided to make life easy (since you can only take the bus to the one in your district, otherwise you’ve got to get there youself.) West it was. Signed up for courses. Son joined the football team and has been practicing.
Got a call yesterday. Apparently we’re in East’s area. WTF?! yea, they had to ask the BUS DRIVER. What part of “administration” abdicates responsibility to know such BASIC information?
Comment by newrouter on 8/20 @ 5:29 pm #
trivial pursuit: who tried to kill henry frick?
Comment by newrouter on 8/20 @ 5:32 pm #
because you know social security, medicare,medicaid and the post office are bankrupt let’s bankrupt the health care industry.
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 5:32 pm #
William, the government is INCOMPETENT. They’re not going to be able to 1)control cost. They will destroy competition (hint – competition is a good thing). As for us having good, quality options? No, we’re going to have a small assortment of options that are government approved.
but we’ve got to change, because the status quo is unsustainable. ”
Strawman ALERT!
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 5:34 pm #
Has william pulled out the “Party of no” line yet? that’s one of my favorites.
Comment by geoffb on 8/20 @ 5:34 pm #
But Carin just think of the fine job of schooling they will do
forto him.Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 5:38 pm #
What might could turn this fiasco around would be if hood rat gave a speech in prime time and talked about stuff what was on his teleprompter. That way we could all fall in love with him again and the change and also the hope! After that death panels would be a lot more popular for sure and all the people could have their health cares for free!
I wish they hadn’t taken down that email cause I don’t know where to send ideas anymore.
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 5:40 pm #
Isn’t that what he’s gonna do next month? I thought there was a story about that.
More reasoned debate is a-coming.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 5:41 pm #
oh. I thought it was my own idea all by myself.
Comment by newrouter on 8/20 @ 5:43 pm #
hey barack’s teleprompter had a meeting with dr. emmanual and poof right when baracky was speaking
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 5:45 pm #
Willie was more coherent than I predicted, but he did not even come close to answering even one of the direct questions I posed to him.
Let’s assume everything is true in Barcky’s quote, suspension of disbelief and all, HOW will he do all of that?
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 5:45 pm #
So you’re saying census figures on the uninsured have been wrong for the entire decade? Oh, suddenly the stats are wrong when Obama becomes president and wants to do something? I get it.
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=628
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 5:48 pm #
Back to arguing with the voices in its head again.
Willie the racist hilljack is getting tiresome.
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 5:49 pm #
William, you appear to not understand what the nuance of those census figures mean. See, they actually have MEANING. The 47 million uninsured figure is extremely misleading, and basically meaningless for the purpose for which it’s used.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 5:51 pm #
Dirty socialists hood rats and statistics are like Thai tranny hookers and scabies I think. You don’t want them sitting on your couch.
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 5:52 pm #
Is he going to hunt up some new talking point? I can wait. My husband isn’t home from work yet.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 5:55 pm #
I am certain ObamaCare will be as successful as public housing.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 5:56 pm #
I still think it was very skank-like for Contessa Brewer to tell her racist lies on Jeffy Immelt’s MSNBC.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 5:58 pm #
If this was about getting everyone insured, it would be a shitload cheaper to buy every last uninsured person a policy in a grouphealth plan. That was, they could have coverage, it would cost a fraction of the trillions the dirty little socialist wañt to waste, and as an added bonus, he would not have to fuck up the rest of the system in the process. I know, silly idea, when you can just take over 1/6 of the economy.
Fuck you racist willie.
Comment by Carin PHD on 8/20 @ 5:59 pm #
I bet it’s as successful as Cash for Clunkers.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 6:03 pm #
Contessa has large chest missiles, with hig beam headlights.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 6:04 pm #
Even supposing there were 47 million uninsured American citizens – why does the entire health insurance system have to be scrapped when about 80% of American citizens are okay with it?
It sounds like someone got hold of that joke flowchart that goes, ‘is it working?’ ‘yes/no’ and yes means ‘don’t fuck with it’ and thought ‘hey, I can make it work better’; which results in ‘did you break it?’ ‘yes/no’ and yes comes up with ‘will they find out?’ ‘yes/no’ and yes means ‘you poor dumb bastard’.
Congress is trying to fuck with it with the UR’s help, and have been found out. Now it is ‘you poor dumb bastard’, and they are spinning, spinning as fast as they can.
Or…
Merry: Put it in the ground!
Pippin: It is in the ground!
Merry: Outside!
Pippin: This was your idea!
WHOOOSHHH!!
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 6:06 pm #
A little late — sorry Mikey NTH — but here’s a link to Sen. McCain’s letter to Sen. Obama. It was a doozy in the context of otherwise collegial relations and pegged the pusillanimous Obama pretty well.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 6:13 pm #
sdferr – it is a classic example of using the rapier. Too bad McCain didn’t decide to go for broke, laugh at Obama, and use this side of his personality. Nasty, yes; but Lord, it is good stuff!
Comment by newrouter on 8/20 @ 6:19 pm #
yes let’s destroy the health care system in the us for 16% of the population. there’s a game plan i tell you.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 6:20 pm #
The problem Obama is faced with is that in America today, people are not capable of understanding complex issues and don’t have the attention span. Due to the lying liars, he has had to start town hall appearances with explanations of what is NOT in health care reform rather than what is IN it. In 2 weeks, football season starts and he’ll lose half of his conservative audience who have already made up their minds based on what they’ve heard about ‘death panels.’ Hopeless ignorance and fear.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 6:23 pm #
Willie the racist – Are you going to answer any of the direct and simple questions I addressed to you?
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 6:28 pm #
“The problem Obama is faced with is that in America today, people are not capable of understanding complex issues and don’t have the attention span.”
So that whole of the people by the people and for the people you were spouting the other day was in fact only so much mouthwash. We’ve been on to you for a long damn time william and we well understand you aren’t a friend of Lincoln or the Constitution he served. There’s no need for you to have to continually point to your hatred, we’ve got it already.
Comment by newrouter on 8/20 @ 6:29 pm #
The problem in america today is that fuckin idiots like you are in the universties, media, and corporations.
Comment by Darleen on 8/20 @ 6:29 pm #
william/jones … why are you plagarizing what I wrote?
You have no problem with Axelrod’s corruption and you have no problem with MSNBC falsifying their newscast.
But you are a perfect Lefty…no morals.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 6:30 pm #
Willie the racist hilljack guitar teacher is full of hate hate hate.
Comment by newrouter on 8/20 @ 6:31 pm #
yea so you liberal-fascist-socialist-communists can tell us what to think.
Comment by alppuccino on 8/20 @ 6:34 pm #
“The problem Obama is faced with is that in America today, people are not capable of understanding complex issues and don’t have the attention span.”
That’s what got Obama elected. But it’s a problem for him now? You’re not making any sense william. Oh wait, I forgot, you’re an idiot.
Comment by No one you know on 8/20 @ 6:37 pm #
Hopeless ignorance and fear.
That’s what I always think when people start asking the government to take care of them.
Comment by Darleen on 8/20 @ 6:37 pm #
BTW if our driveby troll Miles W Rich shows up again to engage in a little Godwin and Chomsky stylings… geoffb found out the following (which I matched with the IP address)
He’s a “BOOOSH had deficits, too so SHUTUP Obamacrat.
Oh, and I did a little further googling … he’s a lawyer.
Comment by geoffb on 8/20 @ 6:38 pm #
The problem Obama is faced with is that in America today, people are
notcapable of understanding complex issues anddon’thave the attention span. Due to the incompetent lying liars in his administration, he has had to start town hall appearanceswith explanations oflying about what is NOT in health care reform rather than lying what is IN it. In 2 weeks, football season starts and he’ll lose half of hisconservativecollege age audience who have already made up their minds based on what they’ve heard about‘death panels.’“free care”HopelessHis only hope is that ignorance and fear stoked by his media buddies will carry the day.FTFY
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 6:40 pm #
has Contessa even apologized yet? She should be shitcanned but if Jeffy Immelt can’t do that then she should at least apologize I think.
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 6:40 pm #
On the subject of complex problems that “people” can’t understand (certainly no one person), read this essay william, it’s chock-a-block with insightful wisdom to the point.
Comment by Darleen on 8/20 @ 6:42 pm #
william/jones
I didn’t realize your overdosing on Hopium could make someone so full of hate for the majority of Americans
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 6:44 pm #
Darleen:
ere
Michael Barone recently said ‘There are more conservatives than Republicans, and there are more Democrats than there are liberals’.
Comment by alppuccino on 8/20 @ 6:44 pm #
but if Jeffy Immelt can’t do that then she should at least apologize I think.
Or release a sex tape. Maybe with Rob Reiner? Where’s he been?
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 6:49 pm #
There are a lot of Rob Reiner sex tape completists that would want that tape even if Contessa wasn’t very enthusiastic about it. She seems to prefer black guys with big guns and such.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 6:52 pm #
“The problem Obama is faced with is that in America today, people are not capable of understanding complex issues and don’t have the attention span.”
Which is why the bill was to be rushed through unread and undebated. And now that it is open to debate and you don’t like the way the debate is going, everyone with complaints are ignorant fools. So much for the voice of the people; so much for listening to the commonman.
Billy-boy: “Bloody Peasants!”
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 6:54 pm #
Contessa’s lovebags are not nearly as nice as that Michelle Caruso’s.
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 6:55 pm #
I wonder what fun Don Imus may have been having with Contessa today? Seems to me like he used to bust on her at every opportunity she gave him, and she gave him plenty.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 6:56 pm #
Sorry to burst your bubble there, Billy-boy. As an American I don’t have any ‘betters’; as the old cowboy put it, ‘that sumbitch ain’t been born yet’. You can take your aristocratic Democrat squires and shove them where the sun don’t shine.
Comment by alppuccino on 8/20 @ 6:57 pm #
Michelle Caruso’s jugs aren’t just going to magically appear JD. Link it up bro!
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 6:58 pm #
Contessa is a slattern I think. Like Lindsey Graham. oh. And Meghan’s coward daddy’s empty-headed illiterate scrunt daughter is gonna be on a daytime tv talk show what fat unemployed American hoochies watch.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 6:59 pm #
that was just a helpful review
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 7:05 pm #
Andrea Mitchell looks like she might could have teh lupus. She doesn’t look healthy. That can be very painful.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 7:09 pm #
Despite the Democratic Party’s political strength — seen in its majority representation in Congress and in state houses across the country — more Americans consider themselves conservative than liberal.
More people eat at McDonalds. Must be the best. Over one bizillion (obese) served.
Doesn’t matter, Democrats will hold majorities. In the next 2 elections. I guarantee it.
Speaking of Polls:
“Do you generally approve or disapprove of the job Barack Obama is doing in handling the issue of health care reform?
Approve: 41%
Disapprove: 47%
Unsure: 12%
aahhh BUT….
“Do you generally approve or disapprove of the way that Republicans in Congress are handling the issue of health care reform?
Approve 21%
Disapprove 62%
Keep up the talk on ‘death panels’ … see where it gets ya. lol!!!
Comment by alppuccino on 8/20 @ 7:09 pm #
Peter Lupus was the muscular guy in Mission Impossible. He was muscular before people knew what muscular was. It was in its infancy.
Comment by alppuccino on 8/20 @ 7:12 pm #
not really doing much to turn your idiot-image around there william.
Comment by lina on 8/20 @ 7:12 pm #
Over one bizillion (obese) served.
dude…you have the funkiest statistics
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 7:12 pm #
Sorry, that poll cited:
NBC News Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart (D) and Bill McInturff (R). Aug. 15-17, 2009. N=805 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.5 (for all adults).
Comment by Jim Ryan on 8/20 @ 7:13 pm #
I get it, willy:
Barack said there’s going to be cheap plentiful healthcare with no rationing. Therefore, it’s true. Anyone who says says otherwise is a liar or a moron.
Thanks. Now I’m, what, “informed” do you call it? Yes, “informed.” Now I’m at peace. I feel I no longer have my, what do you call it? Ah, yes, my right wing anger and ignorance disorder. I no longer will spread my opin- my, what do you call it? Ah, yes, my disinformation. I no longer will spread disinformation. I’m no longer a denier. I believe in Barack. Has Barack every lied before? Of course not. He’s never even done anything before.
Now I understand the 47 million uninsured. People with money who don’t buy insurance. People who could get Medicaid but don’t. Aliens, both legal and illegal. Guy’s who are unemployed for a couple of months and don’t bother to get Cobra. These are the uninsured just like the 5 million who can’t get insurance. So it’s 47 million, not 5. I see that now.
But I knew you were right. There’s rationing in Canada. There’s rationing in the UK. The chance that there will be rationing in the U.S. is therefore negligible. A coincidence like that just isn’t going to happen. You ever see someone roll snake eyes three times in a row? Isn’t going to happen. Plus, Medicare and Medicaid went broke. So, how in the hell are you going to hit craps three times in a row when you go whole hog and offer every American Medicare? Ain’t going to happen.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 7:14 pm #
The French love McDonald’s.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 7:15 pm #
Royale with cheese.
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 7:16 pm #
Happy to say I haven’t eaten beef in 19 yrs, I think everyone here has the Mad Cow brain disease.
heh
Comment by alppuccino on 8/20 @ 7:20 pm #
You sound like actus.
And you don’t eat meat. You’re the first one to get eaten in a lifeboat.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 8/20 @ 7:21 pm #
LAme, Billy-boy; very lame. As a pinata to this party, you are all played-out.
Good-night all.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 7:22 pm #
The southern chicken sammich at McDonald’s is very tasty it’s as good as Chik fil A’s one I think even if it’s not really.
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 7:23 pm #
I gotta say, that’s the first time I’ve seen Creutzfeldt-Jakob taken for a laughing matter, but then again, insistent haters like this don’t come along everyday either, so I oughtn’t be surprised.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 7:25 pm #
I thought that was very hateful too, what william said about the poor kids what get mad cow disease. You just watch them deteriorate and die and there’s nothing you can do and the horror is they know what’s happening. Beyond heartbreaking.
Comment by meya on 8/20 @ 7:27 pm #
“Democrat-Socialists are issuing threats of fiat legislation,”
What do you mean by ‘fiat legislation’? You mean something that passes both houses of congress and is signed by the president and upheld by courts?
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 7:27 pm #
I guess it’s funny now it’s not useful anymores. Hood rat won’t never be accountable for nothing like that.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 7:28 pm #
meya is a fascist slattern what is more tiresome than william even
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 7:29 pm #
But his policy prescriptions are all made in our interest and for our benefit, he’s generous that way, so it’s ok he would make sport of the dying that way I guess. Or maybe it’s an insider’s joke and you just had to be there to get it.
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 7:29 pm #
at least when you read william you don’t have to picture a fat girl
Comment by happyfeet on 8/20 @ 7:36 pm #
the Mad Cow brain disease
Comment by newrouter on 8/20 @ 7:37 pm #
who bought chrysler and how?
Comment by newrouter on 8/20 @ 7:40 pm #
Chrysler to Make Fiat in Mexico
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125046466790535335.html
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 8/20 @ 7:40 pm #
William,
You remind me of the person who drew this and this.
Although I do not believe that she is lashing out at people because her Messiah is failing her.
Perhaps you should visit http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/ to start feeling better about yourself.
Comment by Spiny Norman on 8/20 @ 7:45 pm #
It is utterly amazing that someone who claims to be a “20-year college professor” has nothing but cut-n-paste Democrat talking points to offer.
Don’t blame me for being skeptical.
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 7:46 pm #
Skeptical of what Spiny?
Comment by william on 8/20 @ 7:47 pm #
Giles Co… so far from anything. I’ll bet land is cheap out there.
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 8/20 @ 7:49 pm #
Ah, that’s a real knee-slapper!
OTOH, anyone who had been stationed in Europe in the US military during the early 1980s cannot donate blood in the USA. The beef supply used there at that time (non-American sources) isn’t considered to be safe.
(You also cannot donate blood if you’ve been in jail for more than 72 hours, but that isn’t due to the possibility of Mad Cow disease. The Red Cross questionnaire provides some interesting insights.)
Comment by pdbuttons on 8/20 @ 7:50 pm #
the ability to make change at fast food restaurants
gives my wallett hop
Comment by pdbuttons on 8/20 @ 7:51 pm #
spell/ duh
Comment by meya on 8/20 @ 7:52 pm #
“who bought chrysler and how?”
Ah. Capital F. But that wasn’t due to legislation. And it was in the past. Jho is talking about issuing threats: ie, in the future. I think he’s referring to something else. Nice try though.
Comment by Makewi on 8/20 @ 7:53 pm #
Political terrorism in the form of lies coming from the right and now people carrying guns to his appearances.
I just didn’t want to let this line pass by unremarked upon. I think its a bad idea to bring guns to political meetings for a number of different reasons, but it is hardly terrorism. More importantly, the idea that speech, whether it be lies or otherwise, can be classified as terrorism takes us to a level of rhetoric that starts to worry me a little.
OTOH, to write something like that and then decry the state of American intellectualism with no apparent sense of irony is amusing in a “OMG we are all going to die” sort of way.
Comment by Spiny Norman on 8/20 @ 7:54 pm #
Willy-boy’s “credentials”.
I’m still going with a “mom’s basement” type. I haven’t seen any evidence to the contrary.
Comment by newrouter on 8/20 @ 7:57 pm #
god you are stupid:
1 : a command or act of will that creates something without or as if without further effort
2 : an authoritative determination : dictate
3 : an authoritative or arbitrary order : decree
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fiat
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 8/20 @ 8:00 pm #
William,
Why, yes, Giles County is far from everything. Well, except Huntsville, Alabama, which has had quite a bit of Nasa and aerospace work for 40+ years.
Comment by Makewi on 8/20 @ 8:00 pm #
The problem Obama is faced with is that in America today, people are not capable of understanding complex issues and don’t have the attention span. Due to the lying liars, he has had to start town hall appearances with explanations of what is NOT in health care reform rather than what is IN it. In 2 weeks, football season starts and he’ll lose half of his conservative audience who have already made up their minds based on what they’ve heard about ‘death panels.’ Hopeless ignorance and fear.
No, the problem is that the American people are smart and/or dumb based on whether they are acting in a way that is in line with your wishes. Obama elected = Americans as geniuses; Problems getting legislation passed = Americans dumb as a bag of hammers.
The truth, william, is that you have no clue what is happening, but because whatever it is isn’t in line with what you wish it would be, you do what your kind always does in this sort of situation – identify enemies.
Comment by sdferr on 8/20 @ 8:01 pm #
They’re real enough, Spiny.* Listen for yourself.
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 8/20 @ 8:03 pm #
In all fairness, I should mention that *I* live in the Dallas, Texas, area now. My mother and sister still live in Giles County. My father’s still there, but he’s not alive.
Comment by newrouter on 8/20 @ 8:07 pm #
so say it loud and say it proud: obama rule is rule 13 b/c he fucked rule 12
12. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.
13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it.
Comment by geoffb on 8/20 @ 8:08 pm #
Seems to be a mostly British and Canadian thing, like bad, very bad, but “free” healthcare. Soylent Green for cows causes it.
Comment by JD on 8/20 @ 8:20 pm #
Thanks to happy, I now picture a fat hairy-backed skeezy ho-bag that looks like a cross between Khalid Sheik Mohammed and Rosie O’Lard.
Comment by Pablo on 8/20 @ 8:49 pm #
Um, O’Reilly’s from Long Island. Levittown, to be precise. What is a “career award”? Does everyone get one from the town you think they’re from, william?
Comment by Pablo on 8/20 @ 9:20 pm #
ObamaCare would save them, if only you right wingers didn’t hate them and want them to die.
Comment by Pablo on 8/20 @ 9:37 pm #
Shut up, whor. Shouldn’t you be at a blog where people tolerate you?
Comment by newrouter on 8/20 @ 9:40 pm #
no moron fiat means ain’t no legislation fiat”I won” you god damn stupid idiot
Comment by newrouter on 8/20 @ 9:42 pm #
thor likes cock well done
Comment by newrouter on 8/20 @ 9:44 pm #
fuckin’ meya
a socialist- fascist- communist loser
Comment by pdbuttons on 8/20 @ 9:48 pm #
that squirrel should be plural
too funny!
Comment by Pablo on 8/20 @ 9:51 pm #
And you can tell that because I know where he’s from. How’s Obama’s ass taste, boi? And how did that smackdown in Obama Country work out?
Comment by pdbuttons on 8/20 @ 10:15 pm #
jesus fag anti abortionists..
what a mumble..
how’s ’bout jesus gay life..
quick slick..
mm
savior happy love
mmm..
king of kings don’t mind ur ding-a-ling strange..
just come back in range..
and pray..
well/ i luv ya..
other peeps too..
Comment by Patrick Chester on 8/20 @ 11:12 pm #
william proclaimeth:
No, the reason this blog is slipping is because of ignorance and intellectual dishonesty.
Then why are you here? It’s slipping. Doomed. Dooooooomed you say.
Yet here you are, posting the same claims over and over and over and over and over and generally being a complete ass. Yep, very convincing that… you are desperately trying to convince people that this blog is “slipping” and yet so lacking in people skills you just can’t figure out why others aren’t believing you. Must be THEM and not YOU, right?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/21 @ 4:48 am #
“Extend an olive branch to Democrats and they bite your hand off.”
-Ann Coulter
Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/21 @ 4:49 am #
I like this one two, William.
“Much of the left’s hate speech bears greater similarity to a psychological disorder than to standard political discourse. The hatred is blinding, producing logical contradictions that would be impossible to sustain were it not for the central element faith plays in the left’s new religion. The basic tenet of their faith is this: Maybe they were wrong on facts and policies, but they are good and conservatives are evil. You almost want to give it to them. It’s all they have left.”
-Ann Coulter
NOW go look in that mirroe.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/21 @ 4:57 am #
“…they’ve essentially proved that they are unable to carry on a debate. As Barney Frank said, it would be “like talking to a dining room table.””
No, that’d be like trying to take to reactionary leftist LaRouchie. Which is what that nutbag WAS.
So, you get caught in another lie.
Comment by Rusty on 8/21 @ 4:58 am #
Obama approval rating down to 47%. Fastest dive of any modern president. That means some of the 52% of dumb as a bag of hammers voters are starting to wise up. You can only only play a crooked Chicago pol. as long as you can convince your constituents they have nowhere to go but to you. I hate being right about this.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/21 @ 5:16 am #
“We think that the key is cost control, competition, making sure that people have good, quality options.”
In leftspeak “competition” is where the government destroys private, well, competitors.
Right, willie?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/21 @ 5:22 am #
“The problem Obama is faced with is that in America today, people are not capable of understanding complex issues…”
But you are?
Fuck you, willie, you fascist twat.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 8/21 @ 6:40 am #
Did I actually type “two”?
[hangs head, blushes in shame]
Comment by BJTexs on 8/21 @ 6:58 am #
Methinks william doesn’t understand the difference between “ignorance,” “intellectual dishonesty,” misinformation” and examination of the facts and honest disagreements of opinion.
Methinks william should understand that his bloviating reflects someone convinced of his own political and intellectual aristocratic superiority, an elite class not dependent upon birth or resources but self elevated by their own sneering support of a constructed “moral” imperative that lands them on a rhetorical throne, in their own minds.
In short, william is an educational fascist, dedicated to the proposition that all progressives are innately superior in their ethics and in their intellectual bona fides. It’s a position completely powered by ideological purity. Thus any and all who question Teh Narrative™ are inferior and must be crushed, marginalized and, ultimately, dominated.
For their own good, as well as for the good of all.
This goes beyond the willful ignoring of his own acceptance of pseudo science that pushes forward a “moral” political goal that inevitably ties to wealth redistribution and reflects his disgust of capitalism and profit. It promotes a fervent desire to be dictatorial, master of the “unwashed masses” due to william’s self actualized vision of his own superiority. Nothing anyone says here makes any difference. We all must be mocked and marginalized and shown to be inferior.
Magaret Sanger, writ large. Intellectual eugenics.
Nothing reflects this any more clearly that william’s continued refusal to explain the CBO estimates for the deficit busting cost of the health reform crap pile. william cares not as the moral imperative of health care for all is a transcendant truth, regardless of circumstances. He’ll continue to pick and choose Google splatter in an attempt to demean rather than inform. Lies and misinformation in the service of the moral imperative are righteous, don’cha know.
Methinks william is, at his core, a faux intellectual tyrant more than eager to practice class tyranny to achieve his goals. This is why william shouldn’t run anything that is American and his willful embrace of superiority of vision makes his views, dare I say it, un-American.
Jefferson and Adams weep.
Comment by Darleen on 8/21 @ 7:55 am #
Darleen is a confirmed ‘deather’ … probably a ‘birther’ too. This whole campaign of misinformation will have it’s consequences
Good lord, the contradictions that Leftcultists like william have to hold produces some of the weirdest stuff.
I’ve never said anything about Obama’s birth because it is a non-starter. EVEN IF Obama were to come out tomorrow and say “Nyah nyah nyah, I WAS born in Kenya” his next sentence would be “what are you going to do about it?” Does any rational person believe Congress would remove Obama over that? No.
Personally, I believe he was born in Hawaii — I don’t believe in 40+ year conspiracies involving teen-age moms being spirited between continents in order to bring forth The O’messiah.
And the “birther” meme was started by Democrats in the Clinton camp.
As far as “deather”, william has not given any substantion argument against the facts and evidence I’ve posted on how ObamaCare would end up with rationed care ala Canada and Britain – especially in context with Obama’s on record statements he wants this to end up and single-payer and he has as his health czar Dr. Zeke Emanuel who also advocates for single-payer run under the “Complete Life System”
That doesn’t make me a “deather”, it makes me a realist.
Comment by BJTexs on 8/21 @ 8:07 am #
It doesn’t matter, Darleen. Guilt by association. We are all “birthers” now, according to the tryant William of Prog.
Comment by Pablo on 8/21 @ 9:39 am #
We’re also all white Christian fundamentalist Republicans, so there’s the source to consider…
Comment by agile_dog on 8/21 @ 12:30 pm #
Many of you men and women (some of you may even be ladies or gentlemen) bring humor, wit, and thoughtfulness to this site. But it is still happyfeet who generates the most outbursts of laughs from me:
“Cable news is for people who struggled through eighth grade.” – happyfeet
william, on the other hand, just hastens the demise of the scroll wheel on my mouse…
Comment by SDN on 8/21 @ 1:41 pm #
Actually, Darleen, it would make a large difference. At that point, because he would have been President illegally, he wouldn’t be the CinC, and not only would the military not have to follow his illegal orders, but a case could be made it would be their duty to remove him. There are other consequences (like EVERY law he’s signed being null and void — bye-bye Porkulous!!!), but that’s the most important one.
Of course, the same thing would happen if he confessed what we all know is true, that he got elected because of 35 million in illegal unverified contributions through his website.
Comment by Rusty on 8/21 @ 3:16 pm #
#423
Think,maya, think real hard and you just might get it.
Comment by Danger on 8/21 @ 3:25 pm #
The reason this blog is slipping in the blogoverse is that Our Host has gotten burned out trying to push that rock up the hill. Darleen and the others are trying, and doing good work, but they ain’t Jeff. We miss him, too.
Regards,
Ric
Actually Ric, Jeff shared his ratings a couple of months ago (while Dan was filling in) and they were up. Even though Jeff has not posted recently he had an immeasurable impact here. He has attracted a commentariat unmatched in the blogosphere of which you are a prime example.
This blog is not slipping IMHO and if I had the time to collect the data comparing the past with the present I am sure it would confirm it.
Comment by Danger on 8/21 @ 3:31 pm #
“The southern chicken sammich at McDonald’s is very tasty it’s as good as Chik fil A’s one I think even if it’s not really.”
Yeah Happyfeet but Chick Fil A’s sweet and sour souce is much better (you should try it on the sandwich:) And they don’t charge you 25 cents for it.
Comment by Danger on 8/21 @ 3:39 pm #
It looks like Michael Steele has been lurking here as well:
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/21/steele-to-obama-quit-blaming-us-and-pass-the-bill-champ-if-you-dare/
Comment by Danger on 8/21 @ 3:42 pm #
Well since it is already tomorrow here I will have to catch up with you guys today.
G’night all
Comment by happyfeet on 8/21 @ 3:57 pm #
good night Mr. Danger
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Comment by Makewi on 8/21 @ 8:08 pm #
#448 Rusty
No meya will not get it with or without thought. Not getting it is kind of her thing.
Comment by Rusty on 8/22 @ 2:20 pm #
Hey! There’s a rodent in that picture! The squirrel doesn’t look too happy about it.