In a followup to the post below, the July 24, 4 pm hour John and Ken podcast is up. I’ve transcribed the 2 minute clip of Henry Gates on Gayle King’s show that is played just after the 4:30 pm news portion
Gates: … I don’t talk about people’s mothers…King: umm-mmm
Gates: I, heh, have my own form of swearing …
King: Yes
Gates: … but you could get killed talking about somebody’s mother … [chuckling]
King: Yes
Gates: … in the barber shop let, let alone with a white police officer …
King: So, uh, it says that you have demanded an apology from him …
Gates: As a human being.
King: What are you asking for, specifically from him?
Gates: I would love to meet with Sgt Crowley …
King: Really?
Gates: I would love for him to look me in the eye and say ‘Professor Gates, I am sorry. I am sorry for the way I treated you. I am sorry for the fabrications I..I had to put in that report. And if he’s sincere, I would forgive him as a human being.
King: uh-hmm
Gates: This however has nothing to do whether or not I decide to move forward with the lawsuit, because as I said at the beginning …
King: You’re going to move or …?
Gates: I don’t know, I’m meeting with my lawyers, I want time off to think about it, it’s been a very emotional week.
King: I’m sure.
Gates: But, uh, I want to use what happened to me…uh…to bring the public’s attention to racial profiling.
King: I think it could be a teachable moment for all of us, black or white.
Gates: Gayle, I want to make a documentary for PBS or HBO or some place on racial profiling … on this kind of arbitrary and unacceptable behavior on behalf of the police force.
King: He has said that he is not going to apologize to you, that he has nothing to apologize for. What do you think about that?
Gates: Ah, well I think that he is probably trying to protect himself. I think he feels very vulnerable. Uh, I think he knows that (a) what he did was wrong and (b) that, um, he falsified his report.
I’m thinking Sgt. Crowley needs to be talking with some lawyers.
Time to release the tapes.
Comment by cowboy#2 on 7/25 @ 9:33 am #
I hope he sues the hell out of him.
Comment by B Moe on 7/25 @ 9:37 am #
It’s driving me fucking nuts that nobody, not one fucking talking head I know of, has the brains or the balls to call bullshit on this racial profiling nonsense. This case has jackshit to do with racial profiling and it should be obvious to anybody with any semblance of a brain.
Comment by cowboy#2 on 7/25 @ 9:39 am #
They know it doesn’t, they just want to talk about racial profiling. Facts cannot be allowed to subvert the narrative.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 9:40 am #
A documentary on legitmate racial issues vs. faux outrage would be interesting.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 9:41 am #
This case was never ever ever about race, except of course Gates crying about this. This was assholism and at what point can the cops legitimately arrest you for being an asshole.
Comment by Paul Mitchell on 7/25 @ 9:47 am #
Typical BLACK people. HA!
Comment by cowboy#2 on 7/25 @ 9:47 am #
Sgt. Crowley needs to tell them where they can shove that beer, too. He’s an utter fool if he lets Obama use him as a prop to extricate himself from this mess.
Comment by sdferr on 7/25 @ 10:04 am #
Nice pull by Richard Weir, Laurel J. Sweet and Benjamin Bell getting the Louima reference in there, with plunger torture no less.
Comment by billypaintbrush on 7/25 @ 10:06 am #
Is Gates trying to join the Justice Brothers? That Harvard gig not paying the good shakedown money? Seems like he projected all his hate unto this cop.
Just keep talking, you ole african-american studies professor you, and you will be taken as seriously as Ward Churchill.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 10:08 am #
Gates:
Dear racist Sergeant Crowley,
You gotta understand,
It’s just my Harvard status,
That get my out of hand.
Whites cops are all punks,
Affirmative action rules the land,
Golly Moses, natcherly I’m a skunk!
Gates:
Gee. Officer Crowley, I’m very upset;
You did not give me the love that an elistist expects,
I ain’t no delinquent,
I’m misunderstood,
And your mama aint no good!
Chorus:
Aint no good!
ALL:
Your mama’s no good, no good,
Just like your no good,
Because ever racist cop is no good.
Crowley:
Sir, I am just investigating a robbery!
Gates: Lemme educate you about the world!
Crowley:
Just tell it to the judge!
Gates(to “Judge Obama”):
Dear kindly Judge, your Honor,
Society treats me rough,
With all the racism out there,
I cant get grants to do my stuff.
White people pay $50,000 bucks,
So I can
brainwasheducate their spoiled kids.Leapin’ lizards, that’s why society sucks!
Obama (getting word his poll numbers are plumeting and it is time to throw another pal under the bus):
Officer Crowley, you’re really a square;
This elder professor don’t need a judge, he needs an
analyst’s care!
It’s just his neurosis that oughta be curbed.
He’s psychologic’ly disturbed!
Gates:
I’m disturbed!
ALL:
He’s disturbed. He’s disturbed,
He’s the most disturbed,
Like he’s psychologic’ly disturbed.
Obama:
In the opinion of Da One, this professor is
depraved on account
he ain’t had a normal nonracist society.
Gates: Hey, I’m depraved on account I’m deprived!
Obama: So take him to a headshrinker.
Gates (to “Psychiatrist”):
Society treats me like a bastard,
The cop’s an S.O.B.
They think all negros are plastered,
I broke in because I lost my keys,
Axelrod has a mustache,
Michelle wears a dress,
Goodness gracious, that’s why I’m a mess!
Psychiatrist:
Yes!
Officer Crowley, you’re really a slob.
This professor don’t need a doctor, just a good honest job.
Society’s played him a terrible trick,
“Und” sociogic’ly he’s sick!
Gates:
I am sick!
ALL:
He is sick, He is sick,
He is sick sick sick,
Like he’s sociologically sick!
Psychiatrist:
In my opinion this professor don’t need to have
his head shrunk at all.
Elitist delinquency is purely a social disease!
Gates: Hey, I got a social disease!
Psychiatrist:
So take him to a social worker!
Gates (to “Social Worker”):
Dear kindly social worker.
They say go earn a buck,
Like be a race documentary maker,
Which means like be a schmuck.
It’s not I’m anti-social,
I’m only anti-work,
Glory Osky, that’s why I’m a jerk!
Female social worker):
Eek!
Officer Crowley, you’ve done it again.
Gates don’t need a job, he needs a year in the pen.
It ain’t just a question of misunderstood;
Deep down inside him, he’s no good!
Gates:
I’m no good!
ALL:
He’s no good, he’s no good,
He’s no earthly good,
Like the best of us is no damn good!
Obama:
The trouble is he’s crazy!
Psychiatrist:
The trouble is he drinks!
Social Worker:
The trouble is he’s lazy!
Obama:
The trouble is he stinks!
Psychiatrist:
The trouble is he’s growing!
Social Worker:
The trouble is he’s grown!
ALL:
Crowley. we got troubles of our own!
Gee, Officer Crowley,
We’re down on our knees,
‘Cause no one wants a fella with a social disease.
Gee, Officer Crowley,
What are we to do!
Gee, Officer Crowley,
Crow you!
Comment by alppuccino on 7/25 @ 10:21 am #
at what point can the cops legitimately arrest you for being an asshole.
Do you know the protocol Joe? I don’t, but from what I gathered from listening and reading actual police officers, there is discretion. Example: One black police officer interviewed said that he would have arrested Gates after the first warning. Crowley gave him at least two warnings.
From what I can also gather, police need to secure an area when running a burglary call. There were to B/E suspects reported by the witness. What if Gates’ wife was chained up in the basement. Or a child. What if William Jefferson was hiding in Gates freezer. What if, what if, what if.
Joe, you continually speculate as to whether Gates should have been arrested after you’ve seen the police report. How much would you know to speculate, if you were the cop on the run? Would you know enough in the heat of the moment that you would need to account for everyone in the house? Would you follow Gates into the next room when he turns and leaves without permission to get his ID? A lot of decisions need to be made when you’re protecting a homeowner, you have little info and a belligerent black guy calling racism.
Gates and Obama need to be hung out for this and I concur that Crowley should not weaken his defamation suit against Gates by going to the last supper with Black Jesus.
Comment by alppuccino on 7/25 @ 10:22 am #
t(w)o
Comment by KingShamus on 7/25 @ 10:24 am #
Wow, it seems that Skip Gates isn’t going to unclench his fist at Sgt. Crowley.
Knowing this, Crowley should not meet with Obambi or Gates as it is clear that neither one of those clowns actually feel remorse about putting this police officer in the cross-hairs of a media firestorm.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/25 @ 10:25 am #
Joe … if it wasn’t about race Barack Obama made this about race. So now it’s about race and the biggest asshole in the story is the feckless dickhead in the White House that wanted to make use of this “teachable moment” to piss on a white cop just cause of he could.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/25 @ 10:27 am #
He is very Ward Churchill. Skippy lies and lies.
Comment by alppuccino on 7/25 @ 10:29 am #
happy,
I would never presume to correct you but Barack did not call it a “teachable moment”. He called it “what’s called a teachable moment”. You know, for all the non-Harvard rubes who wouldn’t know what words to string together to describe when someone needs to learn something.
Once again, I am not trying to calibrate what you say more differently.
Comment by alppuccino on 7/25 @ 10:32 am #
By the way Barack, this is what’s called “stepping on your dick”.
Make him pay Crowley.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 10:39 am #
alpuccino, pull the stick out of your ass. I agree it is becoming clearer and clearer that Gates probably should have been arrested for crossing that invisible asshole line in dealing with the police. But that was not clear right away. Nevertheless, neither of us were there. It was quickly apparent that this matter was not about race but about how far you can go in insulting a cop before he can arrest you. Liberty means having the right to be an asshole (to a point). That was the point I was making and it was a legitmate one. And of course the cops had to investigate the incident–Gates was arrested after they determined he was the rightful owner. He was arrested for disorderly conduct (aka being an asshole). And while the Cambridge cops appear to have been justified, if you think cops never ever get like this, well then you are an idiot. Gates is an asshole and an idiot (and I am not defending that content at all), but the question is how far can you push that in your own home and on your own property.
And Obama jumped into this mess with both feet. What a foolish foolish move on his part. And you are correct, Obama made this about race, when it really never was about race. And I hope Obama gets politically hurt by it and that it (indirectly) helps derail real disasters coming at us like socialized medicine.
And Gates may have bigger problems to face. Wouldn’t that be karmic justice.
Comment by Danger on 7/25 @ 10:39 am #
It seems that our dear Professor Gates despite all his book learnin has not learned the first rule of holes.
What will be interesting is if the President continues to join him with the digging.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 7/25 @ 10:39 am #
“Comment by Paul Mitchell on 7/25 @ 9:47 am #
Typical BLACK people. HA!”
Who’s the leftist sockpuppet?
Comment by psycho... on 7/25 @ 10:39 am #
Re:
and such –
Crowley, too, is a racial huckster, or at least willing to be used by them.
Remember that gotcha? “Gates picked the wrong cop to make an example; he’s an anti-racial-profiling trainer, hired by a black chief,” etc.
You got got.
Probably.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 10:40 am #
There are a lot of similarities between Ward Churchill and Skip “Mr. Chips on his Shoulder” Gates.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 10:42 am #
Gates’ book learning consists of dismissing true classics of Western Civilization as “white culture” and defending marginal crap as art. He is a hack. No different than Ward Churchill, although I do not recall Gates ever getting accused of plagerism.
Comment by easyliving1 on 7/25 @ 10:45 am #
Because they have power and guns, cops should be viciously scrutinized in order to help keep as many as honest as possible. I hate Jack “Beat the Little Girls” Dunphy and the sick fucks like him who support and defend the indefensible.
In the Gates fiasco, he could win fame and fortune because lots of people have lots of reasons to hate lots of cops. Like Rush says though, if you put a pile of dogshit in front of a liberal, he will step in it. Guarantee you that. So Gates will show he’s an even bigger jerk than your average cop, which is a high benchmark in most localities, and hopeully be shunned somewhat.
Comment by alppuccino on 7/25 @ 10:45 am #
Stick in my ass Joe? Stick in my ass?
You need to calibrate bro.
Comment by sdferr on 7/25 @ 10:45 am #
In the way of other similarities, was this Joe over at JOM you Joe or is that just a coincidence of nicknames? Whichever ’tis, I note the absence of the “aka being an asshole” references over there, which made me think it must be someone else.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 10:49 am #
Crowley should go to the White House, be respectful, listen carefully and then with all the press there, with Obama and Gates standing next to him, explain that he did the right thing and he would do it again under similar circumstances.
That will extend this story another two weeks. This story would have been over last week but for Obama jumping in on it. The more this story circulates the worse it gets for Obama. It has totally overwhelmed the health care debate.
Comment by JD on 7/25 @ 10:53 am #
Spot on, alppuccino. On Joe and Gates.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 10:53 am #
Not me. You can also tell the writing style is different too. There are other “Joes” out there.
And I typically cut and paste my comments to be consistent to other blogs. Just ask JD, he complains about it over at Patterico all the time.
Comment by alppuccino on 7/25 @ 10:54 am #
Well, us straight-laced puritans think Crowley should tell Obama that his time would be better spent creating jobs rather than photo ops. Stay out of local business amateur and we’ll all try to survive this experiment.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 7/25 @ 10:56 am #
So a hooker walks into a bar with a duck under her arm…
Says to the bartender, “Pay attention jackass, this is a teachable moment”…
…
Not sure what happened after that.
What?
Look, I wasn’t actually in the bar.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 10:57 am #
Seriously this story has gotten so beyond Gates and Crowley now, this is now about Obama. A completely unforced error on his part. You should embrace and love this story for the damage it is doing to Obama and his agenda. Professor Gates is the gift that may keep giving into August.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 11:01 am #
Obama: Drink up boys.
Hey! Who you calling boy?
Comment by alppuccino on 7/25 @ 11:02 am #
alpuccino, pull the stick out of your ass.
As far as I’m concerned Joe, this was your Gates moment.
Comment by Darleen on 7/25 @ 11:03 am #
easy
you “hate” J. Dunphy? I may disagree with him from time to time but he has been a long time voice of real cop out there.
There’s a big difference from excusing behavior and understanding it.
Sorry, that doesn’t sound like excusing bad behavior.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 11:04 am #
alppucino, don’t taze me for being right bro!
Comment by Darleen on 7/25 @ 11:05 am #
btw easy
The average cop is NOT a jerk. You kinda reveal yourself there.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 7/25 @ 11:05 am #
I like when Baracky teaches me stuff…in moments.
World history one moment… economics the next…how to hate people different than me over here…Doctors are profit raping tonsil goblins over there…
He’s sooooo dreamy.
I’m gonna make fucking straight A’s in this class!!
Comment by sdferr on 7/25 @ 11:07 am #
LYBD, it was damned nice of him to fix that mistake of history wrt Hirohito wasn’t it? I weep for all the kids who’ve gone through life carrying an error the likes of leaving the Emperor out of the picture.
Comment by cranky-d on 7/25 @ 11:11 am #
When one or two people tell me I’m being a jerk, I take it with a grain of salt. If a lot of people tell me I’m being a jerk, I listen. Take that one to heart.
Comment by cranky-d on 7/25 @ 11:12 am #
I’m not talking about cops.
Comment by B Moe on 7/25 @ 11:12 am #
I think Gates really is black also.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 11:14 am #
Very funny B Moe.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 11:21 am #
Here is one of Gates’ students in action.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 11:28 am #
Schadenfreud
Comment by SBP on 7/25 @ 11:29 am #
I love this spin.
The arrest of an African-American professor at his home near Harvard University gives a rare view into racial tensions in a seemingly unlikely place: America’s ivory tower and its liberal environs.
“Unlikely”?
A friend of mine who was career Army and has lived all over the world, from Germany to Kentucky, claims that Boston is, hands down, the most racist city in America.
Comment by SBP on 7/25 @ 11:31 am #
I’m sure Boston is just an exception, though. Think of the fine race relations in other bastions of the Democratic Party — Chicago. Detroit. Los Angeles.
Comment by sdferr on 7/25 @ 11:32 am #
Can anyone confirm which of these the ECC in the Crowley report stands for? (ftr, I’m betting on Emergency Coordination Center but I’m not confident of it.)
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 7/25 @ 11:34 am #
“I weep for all the kids who’ve gone through life carrying an error the likes of leaving the Emperor out of the picture.”
Ah so…possibly this is true round eye grasshopper…but Obama fortune cookie say, “Better to leave Emperor out of picture than admit he is out there butt ass naked.”
Comment by TheGeezer on 7/25 @ 11:35 am #
Can anyone say “Certified Malicious Liar Al Sharpton” and “Tawanna Brawley”? Sharpton accused white cops of raping a black girl and accused the local D.A. of a coverup. The case was a hoax, used by the racist Sharpton to stir up hatred and anger to benefit his career. I think this may be more of the same, and I hope we gain the truth. Exposing an expert in racial profiling as a fraud would be another nail in the coffin of that unproven theory.
In New Jersey, the State Police were accused of profiling, stopping more blacks than whites. The department undertook some education of their officers, if I remember correctly. Then, analysis of cameras on the turnpike where the alleged discrimination took place revealed that for whatever reason, black drivers engaged in speeding significantly more often than whites. That’s why they were stopped more often: it was not profiling!
In Cincinnati, the University of Cincinnati did a study, which involved counting black and white drivers moving through a number of neighborhoods at different times of day and compared racial composition of drivers and police officers for traffic stops both during the day and at twilight, when race is difficult to recognize because of dwindling light. There was no evidence of broad racial profiling, with a few (perhaps 5 or 6 in a force of 1100) “outliers” stopping more than their police district and shift peers.
Racial profiling may exist on an individual basis, but it is not prevalent, not ubiquitous, and the theory depends upon the prejudices of racial professionals for its continuing existence.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 11:35 am #
Obama: Don’t cry for me CNN.
Comment by TheGeezer on 7/25 @ 11:36 am #
I WISH FOR PREVIEW>
Sorry about lack of stop-italic tag.
Comment by SBP on 7/25 @ 11:40 am #
Oh, and this utter BS:
says that while working at a highly respected East Coast university a few years ago, he had to pull out his ID to prove he was, in fact, a faculty member.
I’ve had to pull out my ID to prove that I am, in fact, a faculty member on numerous occasions. When I was in the building late at night. When I was setting up for a review session in a lecture hall on Saturday or Sunday.
Once even when I accidentally set off the alarm in the A/V cabinet while setting up (they changed the alarm code and I either missed the notice or my copy got lost in campus mail) — that time multiple university cops responded to the scene.
I’m sure it was just because I’m black, though. Oh, wait: I’m not.
Comment by Darleen on 7/25 @ 11:43 am #
SBP
I have to wear my work picture ID on a lanyard around my neck at all times [at work].
Oh.The.Horror.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 11:43 am #
Perhaps he should have a lawn jockey in front of his place. Since he is a professor of African American studies and history.
Comment by B Moe on 7/25 @ 11:45 am #
DON’T YOU KNOW WHO I AM!
Comment by B Moe on 7/25 @ 11:47 am #
Gates and Cynthia McKinney should start a club.
Comment by SBP on 7/25 @ 11:47 am #
You know, Darleen, the time I set off the alarm it would never have OCCURRED to me that the cops wouldn’t want to see my ID (frankly, by that time I was glad to see someone who could make the damned noise stop :-)). Who knew that the proper academic response in that kind of situation was to refuse to show ID and start insulting the cop’s mom?
Comment by B Moe on 7/25 @ 11:47 am #
Publicity Whores Nonanonymous.
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Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 11:50 am #
Steyn on Gates.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 12:11 pm #
Heather McDonald on Gates:
Let’s acknowledge up front that Gates endured a bizarre and humiliating experience. Being escorted out of your home in handcuffs for what you perceive as no offense at all would feel like a grotesque invasion of privacy, due process, and property rights. Gates’s anger is therefore understandable. But just because an incident is — from one’s subjective perspective — unjustified does not make it racial. Gates was almost certainly not arrested because he was black, but quite possibly because he committed “contempt of cop,” an extralegal offense that can greatly affect the outcome of officer-civilian interactions.
(You will like it, read the whole thing)
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 7/25 @ 12:13 pm #
A teachable moment with Skip Gates…over Saturday morning coffee:
“Fuck you…goddamn playa’ hatin’ Fox News honkeys…
…That cop was racist! 11!!Eleventy!!!11
[mustering 11!!eleventy11!! outrage]
I’LL TALK TO ALL Y’ALLS MAMMAS OUTSIDE!!!
…fuckin’ cracka ass cracka’s.
Race cred bitches!
Where you at Obama?
Prolly on the phone with that racist bitch ass honkey cop…
Goddamn Nation of cowards…
…Where is Eric Holder’s fucking phone number?”
Oh. And also, I miss Bernie Mac. He’d make fun of this whole fucking thing and he’d be the funniest guy on earth doin’ it.
I think that’s why we’re plagued with Obama and Pelosi. God hasn’t been paying attention because Bernie has had Him rolling on the floor in stitches laughing since he showed up in Heaven.
Plus Phil Hartman is up there too.
It all makes sense now.
Comment by Carin on 7/25 @ 12:22 pm #
From the Styen article … it was a classic “He said/ VIP said.” lol. That guy’s a hoot.
Comment by geoffb on 7/25 @ 12:29 pm #
King is right but the lesson plan isn’t going to be the one she, Gates, and Obama expect. Class will be a bit bigger too.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 7/25 @ 12:30 pm #
Something tells me Obama’s haute couture suit ensemble worn at today’s press corps briefing won’t include his fucking Harvard tie.
It will, however, include the phrases “Let me be clear,” and “As I have consistently stated.”
Greatest drinking game EVAH!!!
Comment by B Moe on 7/25 @ 12:34 pm #
No I won’t like it, her premise is wrong from the start.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 7/25 @ 12:38 pm #
King: I think it could be a teachable moment for all of us…
Ah, yes…teachable moments…
Good times, good times.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 12:40 pm #
Read it B Moe, I promise you will like it. Heather is great on statistics and manages to use them in a readable systematic way to deconstruct Gates’ subjective beliefs.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 7/25 @ 12:45 pm #
Heather is great on statistics and manages to use them in a readable systematic way…
I am so turned on right now.
Does Heather have a boyfriend?
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 12:52 pm #
She is actually a hot fifty year old.
Dan on Gatesgate
Comment by JD on 7/25 @ 1:10 pm #
Joe – You agree with Heather because she starts from the same flawed assumptions that you do. It is like you guys ignore the fact that the cop was there as a result of a 911 call for a break-in in progress with 2, not 1, 2 suspects at the scene. Heather’s story reads like Crowley was just driving by, saw Gates, and arrested him. Makes the conclusions easier to arrive at, I guess.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 7/25 @ 1:12 pm #
A hot cougar that’s readable and great with math?
Shit.
Where do I sign up?
Good ‘ol Dan C. Thanks for the link.
Since I’m all in the weepy “missing” people thing, where in the blue fuck did our fearless leader go? He’d have this Gates fucker catch wrestled and choked out with intention on the score card by now.
Here’s hoping he’s deep into a good bottle of scotch and deep into the 5th chapter of his upcoming book.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 1:14 pm #
You obviously did not read the article JD. What she says is she gets why Gates is subjectively outraged, but then systematically shows why he is objectively wrong. She is on the cops’ side.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 1:17 pm #
Do you disagree with Heather MacDonald’s conclusion JD?
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 1:24 pm #
It is like you guys ignore the fact that the cop was there as a result of a 911 call for a break-in in progress with 2, not 1, 2 suspects at the scene.
JD, as you typically do, you misrepresent me. I never ever said that. Of course the police had to investigate Gates’ house given the call in.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 1:34 pm #
And JD, the cops knew that it was Gates and his driver who had been there by the time he was arrested. He was not arrested as a burgarly suspect but for disorderly conduct (aka being an asshole). Something you are guilty of on a regular basis.
You are not quite this stupid, but sometimes you are close.
Still, this may all turn out to be a good thing for what we both want to see happen, which is Obama not succeeding in getting his harmful agenda through.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 7/25 @ 1:35 pm #
How many articles need to be written and read on this?!
Cop gets a 3rd party 911 burglary call, shows up at a house that by all rights appears to have been broken into and has been broken into before. He asks for your ID.
Do you have the legal right on your own property to remain unidentified, tell him to “Fuck off,” and to further explain loudly that his mother is a “cantankerous whore?”
Yes. Yes you do.
Will you, choosing to remain “unknown,” likely be taken into custody as a result?
Yes. Yes you will.
Do you have recourse to sue the “offending” officer and/or police department at your discretion?
Damn straight.
Given the cop was doing his job and trying to help you out. Period. Does the above make you an asshole?
It sure as hell does.
And given his fat, stupid mouth, it makes Obama an asshole too.
Comment by B Moe on 7/25 @ 1:38 pm #
I think Joe has achieved TTP status, JD. Engage at you own risk.
Comment by Hugh on 7/25 @ 1:45 pm #
Sgt. Crowley had a difficult situation to address when he arrived and there was someone inside the house. If the person is the “owner” i.e. legal resident, then Crowley legally(constitutionally) may NOT ENTER the house without permission. However the sargent must find out if that person is the resident, and if he’s not being held hostage.
My understanding is that Gates denied him entrance, but left the broken door to get the requested ID. Gates got the ID in the kitchen and turned around to find Crowley (suspiciously/illegally?) right behind him. Here’s where the 2 viewpoints come apart Gates feels intruded upon in his own home. Crowley must still ID the person, but as soon as he does, then he must leave. Gates doesn’t even know who this guy is. The communication really broke down at this point. Clearly Prof. Gates PhD did not feel treated as he felt he should, and he didn’t even get the officer’s name and badge#. From the police report, Sgt.Crowley did not get treated with respect either, and in front of 4-5 other officers too. So when Gates made the mistake of going out onto his porch (legally he was now outside of his home) he was arrested and handcuffed, behind his back.
I feel that Crowley is right, race was not an issue. I feel that Gates and the President are right, that the arrest was a stupid action. I don’t see how it improved the situation. All I see is that in front of the crowd on the street, the cops demonstrated that they must be treated with respect or you get arrested, physically restrained, and taken away, and put into a jail cell. Some where here this begins to look like Iran, not USA.
At least when the police in Wellesley, mistakenly cuffed a young pro athlete, and put him on the ground for being outside a bank that had been recently robbed by a black young man, the Wellesley police fixed the problem AT THE SCENE, and apologized both then and publicly. Gates didn’t get out of jail for 4 hours. How would you like to arrive home from China after traveling for ~20+ hours as Gates did, your body thinks that it is now 2-3 AM, and a well trained police sargent can’t handle a little guff?
That’s how I see it.
Let me know if Sgt. Crowley was in uniform or plain clothes and how that might change the interaction?
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 1:50 pm #
B Moe, don’t hate me cause I’m right!
I also recognize I am an asshole too, like the rest of you morons.
Well except Darleen and Carin. They are always great and never assholes.
Comment by Darleen on 7/25 @ 1:51 pm #
Hugh?
he was arrested and handcuffed, behind his back.
Did you not see the photo on the other post that shows Gates handcuffed in the FRONT?
Funny that on your part. Read this and get back to me.
Comment by hf on 7/25 @ 1:58 pm #
Thank you al at this tinderboxy time when racial conflagrations threaten we must all choose our words with care and not call the white pigs the stupid and such
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 1:59 pm #
Lamont sums up things well at #78. This is now about Obama–try to use this to our advantage…like Outlaws.
Comment by B Moe on 7/25 @ 2:03 pm #
Anybody who brings up racial profiling in this case is either an idiot, or is being distracted by idiots.
It has nothing to do with racial profiling.
Comment by B Moe on 7/25 @ 2:04 pm #
And I don’t hate you because you are right, I am annoyed with you because you are annoying.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 7/25 @ 2:12 pm #
I feel that Gates and the President are right, that the arrest was a stupid action.
Fine. Let’s pretend “stupid action” not taken.
Let’s navel gaze.
I feel that the onlooker…ya know the one on the bike watching the Gates show… shouldn’t have been flattened by that passing car.
I feel that the jerkoff black and white onlookers on Gates’ lawn shouldn’t have been given all that time during the Gates show to start talking “race relations” …ya know the talking what led to that brawl leaving two in the hospital.
I feel that the Cambridge Police shouldn’t be hit with the resulting $quadrillion dollar law suit as a result.
Gee…Guess they should’ve just arrested the B&E, loud, unruly, UNIDENTIFIED, combative fucker.
Too bad.
But mostly Hugh, I feel that you should have a fucking clue what you’re talking about.
Also, I feel I should be showered daily with rainbows and unicorns.
Plus Obama needs to pony up gas and rent money like he promised.
Ok. Sorry. No more pretending.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 7/25 @ 2:14 pm #
Don’t hate me because I’m beautiful.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 7/25 @ 2:31 pm #
This whole Gates thing has gone Michael Jackson.
The needle on the stupid meter broke clean off sometime yesterday.
I swear, if one of y’all what has a blog thingy wrote a post “Not Racism. Jupiter Wasn’t Aligned with Mercury, UPDATE: A Butterfly Flapped it’s Wings Two Weeks Ago in China Causing a Chaos String Leading to Gates’ Arrest.”
Hell.
You’d get a gazillion hits.
Now I’m off to bury a stuffed animal.
Comment by Old Dad on 7/25 @ 2:37 pm #
Hugh,
Nice try, but take a walk in Sgt. Crowley’s shoes. He’s investigating a reported breaking and entering (perhaps in process)–two black suspects. Sgt. Crowley testifies that he met a black man at the door of the residence, asked for ID, and then was verbally accosted. The suspect leaves, perhaps to get ID, perhaps to get a friend or a gun. You’re Sgt. Crowley. Do you take the chance or do you enter and protect your life, and perhaps, the life of the suspect? Do you feel lucky? I go in.
Comment by ken on 7/25 @ 2:44 pm #
Henry Gates…Rev. Wright… I’m sure they aren’t the only two friends of the One who are virulently racist and anti-American while raking in the sweet money that race-baiting (unidirectionally) offers here in the U.S.
This pattern was available for all to see prior to the election, yet investigation into racist behavior only goes toward one race. Or so it seems. That the One would surround himself speaks volumes about him. The two most charitable explanations are that he doesn’t believe what his friends say but hangs on to them as friend as they are politically expedient, or to some extent he agrees with them (and benefits as they do). Or a combination of both. None of which says anything good about the black soul of the one.
Oh wait, was that racist too?
Comment by Reggie Greene / The Logistician on 7/25 @ 2:44 pm #
We have three observations about the Harvard professor incident:
1. We find it interesting that the fact that this was the professor’s home was evidently not clearly established long before the dispute escalated and transitioned into other issues;
2. We find it fascinating that the versions of two members of society, who most would ordinarily view as responsible and honest citizens (this obviously does not include politicians), would vary so dramatically from a factual point of view.
3. Finally, considering that the reading and viewing public were not present at the scene (and thus have no first hand knowledge), and that there is no video tape to our knowledge of the sequence of events and what was said, how so many have formed conclusions, and made assumptions, about who did what and who was wrong.
There are some things which Professor Gates might have considered upon the arrival of the police, no matter how incensed he may have been.
Comment by Darleen on 7/25 @ 2:56 pm #
the fact that this was the professor’s home was evidently not clearly established
It’s a rental, owned by Harvard.
so many have formed conclusions, and made assumptions, about who did what and who was wrong.
I, for one, read the police reports, read the witness statements and looked at the pic. I later found out the facts of Crowley’s background and listened to Gates statements to King and others and only then found Gates the one less credible.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 7/25 @ 3:05 pm #
#93
Game. Set. Match.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 3:21 pm #
B Moe this is NOT racial profiling, it is when being an asshole gets you arrested by the cops. The only ones now yelling racial profiling are Gates, his attorney, and Obama. I hope they dig themselves deeper and deeper. Don’t hate me cause I am right and annoying, because I am mostly right. I have a gift for it.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 3:44 pm #
Darleen would make a heck of a judge.
Comment by Matt Damon on 7/25 @ 4:12 pm #
Cop shoulda used pepper spray or tazed the old bastard.
Comment by RCT on 7/25 @ 4:13 pm #
Joe — you continue to flirt with crossing the line from
merely annoying to asshole. Give it a rest.
Comment by Joe on 7/25 @ 4:19 pm #
I am currently on an island, with a great view of the water, watching a whole pig roasting. I am working on a beer and we should be eating in an hour. I wish you all a great weekend.
Comment by JD on 7/25 @ 4:24 pm #
Continuing to state that Gates was arrested for being an asshole in his own home, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again pretty much makes you an asshole, Joe. That, and the fact that you are a chcolate starfish make it pretty conclusive.
Comment by JD on 7/25 @ 4:26 pm #
Have fun on your vacation, Joe.
Comment by JD on 7/25 @ 4:28 pm #
Crowley and the PD should have Teh One and Gates served with their defamation lawsuit when he is at the White House.
Comment by JD on 7/25 @ 5:01 pm #
Tommy Herr !
Comment by JD on 7/25 @ 5:05 pm #
Off to O’Reilly Raceway for some short-track racing.
Comment by JD on 7/25 @ 5:17 pm #
I am going to go all PDbuttons on y’all now ;-)
Comment by Danger on 7/25 @ 5:34 pm #
Joe,
Nice find on the Africa song posted on the wedding video link.
Enjoy your vacation and while you are enjoying that beer, say a toast to the guys on the front lines defending your freedom to be whatever form of “asshole” you desire.
Comment by JohnAnnArbor on 7/25 @ 5:44 pm #
I wonder if Prof. Gates has an ounce of humility in him at all. He’s the one that should apologize, for publicly accusing a good officer of lying and racism.
Comment by Danger on 7/25 @ 5:58 pm #
John,
Excellent point, The good Professor continues to “double down” on his original mistake. The racist charge may well come back to haunt him especially if as has been suggested their is an audio recording of the incedent.
I might also be the lefts McCarthy moment if they are not careful.
Comment by Danger on 7/25 @ 6:02 pm #
Gnight all,
Remember; volleys downrange, it what’s for breakfast;)
Comment by Molon Labe on 7/25 @ 6:27 pm #
Police report states Gates got on his cell phone during the incident. Was apparently asking for “the chief”. Probably means the call was to 911. That’s the tape I want to hear.
Comment by msgijoe on 7/25 @ 6:48 pm #
Two aspects you have just touched on: 1. Gates and Police both indicate house previously broken into ( I assume while he was in China). Would not it be logical to ask the police “why did it take you so long to get here”? In other words, why did he not want to determine what he had lost? 2. Gates’ temper tantrum actually exposed the racial bias of the Mayor of Cambridge, the Governor of Massachusetts and …. President Obama. That is not bad for a ‘distinguished professor”.
Comment by B Moe on 7/25 @ 7:08 pm #
I hate you.
Comment by cynn on 7/25 @ 8:10 pm #
Why does this matter to you? A moron got arrested for mouthing off to a cop. You all seem invested. Why?
Comment by SBP on 7/25 @ 8:13 pm #
You all seem invested. Why?
Your Plastic Presentdent is awfully “invested”, cynn, or didn’t you notice?
You don’t have a single functioning braincell, do you?
Comment by cynn on 7/25 @ 8:16 pm #
Oh, God it’s Spores, Bores, and Pores. That wasn’t my question.
Comment by SBP on 7/25 @ 8:19 pm #
That wasn’t my question.
Teleprompter Jesus thought it was important enough to mention at a national press conference, you fucking dumbass, and issue multiple additional statements about it over the course of several days.
I’d say that makes it newsworthy on its face.
Why don’t you tell us why it’s NOT important, you drunken lunatic?
The real reason, of course, is that your Fake President is stepping all over his own dick on this, and you really, really wish we’d talk about something else.
Not happening, O Queen of Box Wine.
Sorry!
Comment by Great Mencken's Ghost! on 7/25 @ 8:20 pm #
I hope Cambridge cancels that “how to avoid racial profiling” course Crowley lectured in. Obviously, no amount of accomodation is ever going to be enough…
Comment by Great Mencken's Ghost! on 7/25 @ 8:22 pm #
Joe… Nicely done!
Comment by pdbutttons on 7/25 @ 8:22 pm #
#105
please do
Comment by cynn on 7/25 @ 8:26 pm #
SPB: So you go right ahead and fling it around like a puppy with a sock.
Comment by geoffb on 7/25 @ 8:27 pm #
Gates changes tune.
A teaching moment, yep.
Comment by SBP on 7/25 @ 8:28 pm #
So you go right ahead and fling it around like a puppy with a sock.
Never occurred to you to wonder why all of His Oneness’s buddies are race-baiting bigots, did it, cynn?
Nope. You voted for him out of pure greed. He promised to steal money from other people and give it to you.
Guess what? He lied. He’s a cheap hustler, and you’re the chump.
Get used to it, honey. We’ve got about 3.5 years to go.
Comment by JD on 7/25 @ 8:28 pm #
3-wide racing on a short track is awesome, BMoe. Plus, that cum-guzzling gutterslut Kyle Busch didn’t win, making it even better.
Comment by cynn on 7/25 @ 8:35 pm #
That cum-guzzler Kyle had better be a male, or you are fucked. Either way, it’s crass.
Comment by pdbutttons on 7/25 @ 8:44 pm #
harvard is just a stop on the redline
green street is on the orange line
the blue lines last stop is wonderland
green line trolley brakes at sympthony
Comment by pdbutttons on 7/25 @ 8:47 pm #
white don’t mean ur a virgin
Comment by pdbutttons on 7/25 @ 8:47 pm #
but black has a slimming effect
Comment by pdbutttons on 7/25 @ 8:54 pm #
do i have to color ur minds with visions of
blurby snore
cuz i will!
he wore white and black jerseys
and helped little children who were confused
about red lights
greenlights
and
pause
yellowlights
Comment by TmjUtah on 7/25 @ 10:22 pm #
You can’t have humility, conscience, or ethic if you are going to stalk the mean halls of ethnic studies scholarship.
Sorry. Laughing too hard to type here.
Comment by B Moe on 7/25 @ 10:25 pm #
I love that track, it is on my bucket list of race tracks. I want to try to catch a sprint/midget show there some time.
Comment by Dread Cthulhu on 7/25 @ 11:07 pm #
cynn: “Why does this matter to you? A moron got arrested for mouthing off to a cop. You all seem invested. Why?”
Because this moron is a high profile, socially acceptable, politically connected moron who thinks he can play the “do you know who I am” card, along with the race card. It doesn’t hurt that the President threw himself on this grenade of his own free will, pretty much admitting his ignorance before opening his gob and making it a media event.
Speaking solely for myself, I’m invested solely for the schadenfreude.
Comment by JD on 7/25 @ 11:13 pm #
BMoe – Come on out, anytime.
Comment by Skippy Gates on 7/26 @ 12:44 am #
Let’s have a beer, you felony-commiting, report-falsifying, fucking liar. Suck the bitter sudsy dregs of the end of your career. I want you dead, white boy.
Comment by Barack Obama on 7/26 @ 12:46 am #
Sounds reasonable. Crowley, my good friend Harvard Big Fucking Deal Professor Gates is reaching out to you. Don’t make a bad decision, prole.
Comment by lee on 7/26 @ 3:02 am #
Well. Here’s an interesting tidbit I haven’t seen anywhere.
Comment by SBP on 7/26 @ 5:00 am #
and parking in a bus stop.
If he’d done that in my neighborhood he’d have come back to find the Barkymobile gone.
I call the the cops and have them towed when I see that — there are some handicapped people who ride the bus around here.
It’s all of a piece with his general narcissism.
Comment by lee on 7/26 @ 5:14 am #
You mean his pathological narcissism?
Comment by SBP on 7/26 @ 5:20 am #
Back on the Gates thing, here’s why cynn would really, really prefer that we stop talking about it.
Voters rate Obama’s response to Gates incident as “poor”, 46-26.
Comment by royf on 7/26 @ 5:38 am #
3-wide racing on a short track is awesome, BMoe. Plus, that cum-guzzling gutterslut Kyle Busch didn’t win, making it even better.
Watched it last night, what a great race and track. They always put on a good show there.
Jack Roush and Carl Edwards are among my favorites as well, although I like 90% of the NASCAR guys. Kyle Busch is a annoying little turd, but I have to admit he is a heck of a good driver.
Comment by Rusty on 7/26 @ 5:48 am #
#113
113.Comment by cynn on 7/25 @ 8:10 pm #
Why does this matter to you? A moron got arrested for mouthing off to a cop. You all seem invested. Why?
A moron mouthed off to the country.
Comment by SBP on 7/26 @ 5:58 am #
What cynn doesn’t mention is that that “moron” is described by Obama as a friend and mentor.
Comment by Bob Reed on 7/26 @ 7:10 am #
Nice to see that race-hustler Gates have a change of heart. I mean, as all good mentors should, he’s doin’ a solid for O! and trying to make this all go away by acting like he wants to play nice and all…
Funny that, though, when for the last couple of days he’s been all about himself expressing his Outrage!! to any media outlet that would pay attention…
Post racially, of course…
No, my guess is that it has more to do with the public’s overwhelmingly negative reaction to O!’s response to the Gates/Crowley affair that SBP cited in # 138…
Yeah, post racial, that’s it…
More like, post-useful; ‘cuz above all else effective race-baiting is all about utility and profit, and rarely for the fairness…
Comment by B Moe on 7/26 @ 7:16 am #
He has as much raw talent as any driver I have seen, unfortunately at the level he is competing intelligence and attitude are required.
Comment by geoffb on 7/26 @ 7:28 am #
It might also be that “the cause” thinks he has “embraced it” as per
Comment by JD on 7/26 @ 7:31 am #
Royf & BMoe – Agreed that Kyle is a great driver. Sensational. But I dislike him so much that I am usually torn between wanting to see him smashed into a wall and seeing Junior win. Neither happens nearly often enough for me. IRP is one of my favorite races every year. Ranks up there with Talladega and the Bristol night race for me. I like it way more than the Brickyard, though it is pretty cool to see NASCAR on the Speedway. Back to the track … Look for me. I will be in Turn 1. I will be the one cheering for Junior. Should be a good day for Hendrick, with the 5 on the pole and 88 in 3rd. Awesome Bill from Dawsonville is up there too, which is way cool.
Comment by Pablo on 7/26 @ 7:43 am #
Ahhhh….Skipp’s liar…er..lawyer.
not gonna happen, Skippy, unlessd you include racially profiling cops, and I’m pretty sure you don’t.
The professor needs to shut his yap, and take a seat. Class is about to begin. I hope takes notes.
Comment by Akatsukami on 7/26 @ 7:50 am #
Instapundit links to a Chicago Sun-Times article in which Richard Daley criticizes Obama for mouthing off in the Gates kerfuffle. This could indicate a major fracture in the Obamist cabal, as the Chicago machine is a major player in that cabal, as are the Wright/Jackson/Sharpton racists and race pimps.
Comment by SDN on 7/26 @ 7:53 am #
Sorry, but any cop that enforces any law against someone who might be an Official Victim Group member is a fool in this climate.
Comment by Joe on 7/26 @ 8:03 am #
Akatsukami that would be awesome. And the “teachable moment” here is to say “no comment” to some reporter’s question not on the topic at hand.
Comment by B Moe on 7/26 @ 8:23 am #
Then you need to come on down South and hold some rallies for us white boys down here, Skippy. Because if I would have pulled that shit with one of the local cops I would have been face down on the kitchen floor with a knee in my back and a billy club on my neck.
Equal justice my ass.
Comment by geoffb on 7/26 @ 8:24 am #
Small world on those “mean streets”.
Comment by sdferr on 7/26 @ 8:38 am #
Mayor Daley’s comment serves to remind us that Obama had not held even so much as a dogcatcher post in an executive capacity before becoming President of the United States. Had he been a mayor or governor he would have know instantly not to get involved in a police matter without first ascertaining all the facts and would likely have been extremely reluctant to sound off even then. Obama’s ignorance and inexperience are going to get a lot of people killed unnecessarily before he’s done.
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Comment by donald on 7/26 @ 8:45 am #
I met a guy in Maguires in Senoia last night who’s favorite band is The Dashboard Saviours. I swear to God. He thinks there would be no Drive By Truckers without Todd, Bmoe, and Rob. He may be right.
Comment by donald on 7/26 @ 8:47 am #
I’ve lived it Bmoe. I’m a statistic.
Comment by B Moe on 7/26 @ 8:55 am #
Hey dude, I’ve never even met Patterson’s mom. Swear to God.
Comment by donald on 7/26 @ 1:21 pm #
Bmoe, he knew everything about everybody. Unfortunately I had 3 martinis so my wife had to remind me this morning.
Comment by Alex on 7/26 @ 3:37 pm #
Deport all niggers back to Africa and fuxxck obama;these people think that they can insult us and get a way with it.
Comment by happyfeet on 7/26 @ 3:39 pm #
that’s retarded and gay and moby and you know what I hate?
fucking Ikea
hate it hate it hate it
Comment by pdbuttons on 7/26 @ 3:51 pm #
some professors can make radios out of coconuts
but not patch holes in bottom of boats
other professors can’t open front doors
professors are stupid
Comment by happyfeet on 7/26 @ 3:52 pm #
this fucking coat rack damn well better be in my family for generations untold
Comment by Pablo on 7/26 @ 3:56 pm #
Hi Alex! So, what’s it like being a peabrained douchebag?
Comment by pdbuttons on 7/26 @ 3:59 pm #
deport all uighers to bermuda
Comment by cynn on 7/26 @ 10:36 pm #
No way! Take the Uighers bowling!!
Comment by Rusty on 7/27 @ 5:09 am #
#158
You’ve failed on several different levels here. Why don’t you head on back to DU, where you came from, or is it The Daily Kos. Now scat!
Comment by Danger on 7/27 @ 11:08 am #
“some professors can make radios out of coconuts
but not patch holes in bottom of boats
other professors can’t open front doors
professors are stupid”
Heh!
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 7/27 @ 11:25 am #
I think its funny that ethnic studies Skip (If Skip isn’t a lame white fraternity nick name, what is?) Gates was married to a white woman and has two bi-racial kids. I wonder if he divorced her when he realized he was a sellout.
Brings to mind the Dave Chapelle skit on the blind black man who becomes the leader of the Klan.
Comment by peter jackson on 7/27 @ 11:42 pm #
Racial profiling is almost exclusively a drug war tactic, where it’s used to identify drug dealers and couriers. And it works, too.
No more drug war, no more racial profiling.
Comment by easyliving1 on 7/28 @ 6:00 pm #
Comment by Jeffon 8/28 @ 5:02 pm #
The thing is, this isn’t uncommon behavior for cops. They just have so much power, it tends to corrupt. I keep reading 90% of cops don’t do this kind of thing. I must say, that’s not my experience. I think far fewer cops act decently towards citizens most of the time. Although, my experiences with bad policing were in Houston in the 1980’s when cops were handcuffing people and drowning them in Buffalo Bayou.
I don’t know what to do about it. It seems they need that power. Maybe we need more effective “Internal Affairs” departments. Although, I really hate that name, it suggests that the affairs of the Executive Branch of government are somehow “internal” instead of public acts of government. So, maybe we need truly independent police to monitor the police. I dunno.
I do know that while many are outraged at the police actions here, few are likely surprised by it. That’s sad. –
Comment by B Moe on 7/28 @ 6:19 pm #
Unbelievable. Skippy is a friggin’ hillbilly. One of these days I am going to quit admitting I am from that state.
Comment by B Moe on 7/28 @ 6:25 pm #
No words for that now, Peter.
Comment by ana on 7/29 @ 2:24 pm #
Actually, the 911 tapes came out today and in them it is proved that at no point does the woman identify the suspects as black, when specifically asked she stated I think one is hispanic, but didn’t see the other guy. Also, she specifically said several times on the tape that she was unsure if the people lived there and just had problems with the door, or if they were breaking in. Basic facts: Recordings don’t lie, but cops do.
Comment by maggie katzen on 7/29 @ 2:27 pm #
???
Comment by geoffb on 7/29 @ 2:37 pm #
“Recordings don’t lie, but
copsPresidents and professors do. “FTFYComment by Rob Rahlf on 7/30 @ 6:26 pm #
This issue isn’t a racial problem although I’m sure Professor Gates felt it was. I’m a middle aged white male and I can “guarantee you” the same thing would happen to me.
Unfortunately Officer Crowley isn’t “smart enough” to walk away from Professor Gates home once his residency was established. END OF STORY, PERIOD (unless of course he was threatened).
Cops “always harass”, & throw their weight around everytime they can! This happens to be everyday moron cop behavior. This isn’t a racial issue this is “typical rogue” cop “out of control” like ALWAYS!!!!
They only way this is going to STOP is IF Professor Gates SUES this cop and my sincere hope is that he does!