Well well, looks like the kerfuffle is now the Lurid Sex Scandal kerfuffle.
::::Sigh::::
Gary Hart, Bill Clinton, John Edwards, Elliott Spitzer, Rudy Giuliani, John Ensign, Antonio Villaraigosa, James McGreevey, Gavin Newsom … yadda, yadda, yadda. How many times do we have to sit through this play?
Act I
Politician runs for office, smiling wife and family in tow – wins and acquires power
Act II
Politician starts thinking he is different, feels like a rock star, begins/continues affair(s)
Tabloids discover affairs
Act III
Politician gives weepy and/or apologetic press conference.
What would be different? If the politician had realized his sin, stopped it and repaired his relationships before the paparazzi discovered anything.
I feel sorry for Jenny Sanford, but at least she had the spine (hello? Hillary? Elizabeth?) to kick Mark out of the house. That should have made his big head take back control. That may have given him a chance to repair his marriage and save his family.
Power corrupts because of the temptations it offers. Sanford’s allowing himself to cheat on his wife is just another example of allowing feelings to excuse bad behavior as was previously debated.
Sanford may indeed love his wife, but in marriage love isn’t the most important thing, it is trust. This is why all the handwringing when he first “disappeared” didn’t concern me at all. I gave the Sanfords the benefit of a doubt that if Jenny wasn’t concerned then no one should be concerned.
Love can ebb and flow in a marriage, but if trust is betrayed it is rarely recovered.
I am sorry for the Sanfords, especially for the boys who will grow up to always read about this incident any time they read a bio of their dad. However, I’m really pissed off at the politician Mark Sanford for giving the Obama-ankle-licking reporters a great excuse not to cover seriously damaging policies Obama is trying to ram through before the public gets to find out about them.
Comment by gp on 6/24 @ 7:02 pm #
As long as we put our political faith in people instead of principles, we will be disappointed.
Comment by thor on 6/24 @ 7:07 pm #
But just this morning, according to you, Darleen, Mark Sanford was merely being a manly man and husband to an awesome media disrespecting wife.
Hahaha.
You’re always so big fat wrong.
Comment by newrouter on 6/24 @ 7:07 pm #
yea the state media needed an excuse
Comment by newrouter on 6/24 @ 7:08 pm #
can you image what bwarney frank would do to argentine beef?
Comment by Geo Walsh on 6/24 @ 7:11 pm #
Darleen, I agree to a certain extent that the Sanford story is distracting from the discussion of Obama’s policies, but then again the Ensign story faded quickly and this one might too. Oh, we’ll hear about it on Bill Maher’s show for a week or two but the interesting part of this was, where’s the gov? Now he’s back, we know why, so so what? And a real massacre in Iran is real competition for the front page — if it bleeds, it leads, right?
I just hope all those Republican office holders who can’t keep it zipped are all outed or caught or whatever in this calendar year, so the elections of 2010 don’t swing on their dicks but on trying to keep the USA from getting screwed.
Comment by Barbula on 6/24 @ 7:12 pm #
These GOP politicians – they’re just not serious people, and Lord knows we need
serious people to fight the Dems.
They’re frat boys.
Comment by Darleen on 6/24 @ 7:13 pm #
Walthor
What I said this morning still stands. If he was just off hiking or taking trips then yes he was being a regular PERSON.
But a Daddy’s boy like you wouldn’t recognize that.
Comment by Buffoon on 6/24 @ 7:19 pm #
Well put
Comment by thor on 6/24 @ 7:20 pm #
Bangin’ the lights out of the Argentinian Socialist bitches, personally I give that sort’a action two thumbs up.
Go Mark!
Comment by newrouter on 6/24 @ 7:23 pm #
evita yes
Comment by Geo Walsh on 6/24 @ 7:24 pm #
Im glad PW prints the name of the commentor at the start of the comment, so that I can always do skip the trolls. I can see the poster, in this case Darleen, commenting back when appropriate, but it is disappointing when the good folks let the troll derail the thread. And PW has the best commentors on the innernets. hint hint
Comment by newrouter on 6/24 @ 7:25 pm #
thor what’s your opinion on argentine beef?
Comment by thor on 6/24 @ 7:29 pm #
Fuck off, el neoretardito.
Hot tangy Revolocionista box! Get some.
Comment by Joe on 6/24 @ 7:29 pm #
Well said Darleen. Well said.
Comment by newrouter on 6/24 @ 7:39 pm #
thor admit it you and bwarney like tastey argentine beefsteak
Comment by Spiny Norman on 6/24 @ 7:46 pm #
Unlike most boys his age who spend their computer time playing video games (or downloading pr0n), thor comes here to moon and spit at the grownups.
Comment by kasper on 6/24 @ 7:50 pm #
Sad. Especially for Sanford’s sons. But they’ll learn from this that Argentine babes must be pretty hot.
Sorry little plain left-behind wife’s will just have to manage to pick up the pieces, won’t they.
Poor Thor sounds like his daddy might run off on him, and left his poor plain momma to manage.
It’s the circle of life.
Comment by bastiches on 6/24 @ 7:56 pm #
Bangin’ the lights out of the Argentinian Socialist bitches, personally I give that sort’a action two thumbs up. Thor loother
Nice to see your commitment to liberal though is only foreskin deep.
Does it hurt to have no principles? Do you have trouble with automated doors and such?
Comment by Bob Reed on 6/24 @ 7:58 pm #
I won’t try to defend Sanford; what he did is indefensible. Especially since he used his staff, even of unwittingly, as cover for his dalliances…
What’s fascinating is how his wife, Jenny, who asked him to leave two weeks earlier upon finding out about the affair, didn’t air their dirty laundry in public like a lesser person would have. She’s a classy lady, far more than it seems Sanford deserves, as this piece linked to by Mary Katherine Hamm…
http://bit.ly/40ihw
I don’t understand why he did this, but will pray nonetheless that he put it all behind him and do the right thing and try to bring his family back together…
While Sanford is responsible for this mess there is another yet unseen villain in this drama. One of his political rivals made a conscious decision to betray him, and indeed has already begun leaking his e-mail correspondance with this Argentine lady to the press. This same person is probably the genesis of the breathless press inquisition as to Sanfords whereabouts over the fathers day weekend. And, they are also responsible for consciously ensuring the public embarrasment of not only Sanford, but his wife and family…
I’t the ungentlemanly nature of this employment of the politics of personal distruction that has me taken aback; especially so in the Palmetto state. If it had been one of his own, so to speak, it would be reasonable to assume that they might have told him in private how indiscreet this whole business was and counseled him as to the potential for a disastrous outcome…
But, in the way this has all been done in a way to not only permanently damage him, publicly, both in SC and nationally, betrays the hand of his political rivals…
Recall that Sanford was quite vocal in his opposition to Obama, the spendulus, and his policies in general. And Sanford was supposed to be a front running favorite for the RethugliKKKan nomination in 2012. Add into that Clyburns SC rivalry and dislike for Sanford. Also, recall how Clyburn threw his longtime allies, Billy Jeff and Hillz, under the bus at crucial time and played the race card in support of Obama in the 2008 campaign. Finally, remember how O!’s has ruined past opponents by airing their marital dirty laundry in public…
Again, while I’m no conspiratorially minded guy, there could be a “there” there. It’s not beyond imagination that, upon learning of the Governors pecadillos, Clyburn used his contacts in SC government to gain access to private e-mails[not his Government account, by the way] as well as gin up the media furor over “where in the world is Mark Sanford]. It’s not to great a reach to recognize tha politics of personal destruction as practiced by the party that invented it as “Borking” in the 80’s and raised it to a high art in the 90’s; the party that believes in the motto, “by any means necessary”…
And, in doing so eliminated a regional and national rival…
Now, none of this relieves Sanford of guilt; if he hadn’t been foolin’ around, there would have been nothing to catch him doing-he brought this on himself…
But who’s to say that it wasn’t in the interest of the SC Democrats, and indeed Obama himself, to help this scandal along…
I’d love to have the source of the e-mail leaks investigated. It probably won’t happen, but, who knows!, stranger things have happened…
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Comment by happyfeet on 6/24 @ 8:03 pm #
I feel sorry for Jenny Sanford, but at least she had the spine … to kick Mark out of the house.
I think it’s heroic. And also she is being a good mom to those boys with this example and I hope Jenny demonstrates the good sense and follow-through to quietly take this Sanford person for all he’s worth.
also, welcome back, Darleen.
Also, I just met J.D. and you can’t meet a nicer person and even at their most heroic these trashy Sanfords really don’t belong in the same comment as the one about how you can’t meet a nicer person than J.D.
It’s a fallen world, I’m noticing. And not just from being in Chicago… it’s a widespread and serious problem.
Comment by happyfeet on 6/24 @ 8:07 pm #
oh. I hear you Bob but this is one of those agree to disagree things and I will tell you why. Because it’s a cliche, this whole dealio, and I’m much more supportive of adultery and really all kinds of sinfulness than I am of people what take their one God-given life and make of it a tawdry cliche.
Comment by geoffb on 6/24 @ 8:08 pm #
Timing, timing, timing. Wasn’t it just a week ago that there was that poll showing him to be the up and coming guy for 2012? This is the same as the 2008 season, except earlier and faster, as Obama is wont to be. Start taking out Republicans, till there is only a McCain left.
Comment by guinsPen on 6/24 @ 8:17 pm #
being in Chicago
How long for?
Comment by happyfeet on 6/24 @ 8:26 pm #
leaving friday morning and my company will shanghai me all day tomorrow but I’ll be back for many many days in July. 07/09 – 07/14 … that’s … soon to where I really should book my flight tomorrow. email is happyfeet47yahoo.com, guins …
Comment by happyfeet on 6/24 @ 8:27 pm #
oh – there’s one of them little at signs right before the yahoo
Comment by Bob Reed on 6/24 @ 8:27 pm #
I hear you happyfeet…
But it does seem a lot like the Chicago way written all over this thing; and like geoffb noted, I question the timing…
Sanford made himself vulnerable, but it does seem like someone wanted him out of the picture, not only as a serious 2012 player, but as one of Obama’s most outspoken and high-visibility critics…
Obama’s played dirty pool his whole short career in elected politics, it’s not only what Alinsky taught him, but it’s the Chicago way…
Comment by bh on 6/24 @ 8:33 pm #
Hey, mentioned it geoffb earlier, but I’ll be in NY for the possible July meet-up in Chicago. Too bad, it’d be fun to meet some of you maniacs. On the plus side… I can be propositioned by another old hooker in yet another bad hotel bar? Doesn’t seem that plus side.
louchette, save me from old hookers in bad hotel bars. Please.
Comment by happyfeet on 6/24 @ 8:39 pm #
oh. I agree there’s more to this story but I think also that even were it revealed that Mark Sanford had been honeypotted while George Soros waited outside in a car recording the whole thing, Mark Sanford would be no less a trashy trashy joke.
but my 2 cents say the timing is more related to that PMA thinger
Comment by happyfeet on 6/24 @ 8:40 pm #
oh – jd had said you might be in chicago, bh. that’s too bad
Comment by B Moe on 6/24 @ 8:42 pm #
Chicago is taking over the world.
Comment by bh on 6/24 @ 8:47 pm #
Yeah, it sucks, hf. I was looking forward to meeting you all.
On the plus side, there’s a chance I can swing you guys a condo and rooftop in Wrigleyville for a night or two if my friend has to go with me to NY. Don’t know if the Cubs or playing in town then or not.
Comment by Bob Reed on 6/24 @ 8:59 pm #
happyfeet,
What is that PMA thinger; I don’t get the reference…
Comment by Pazzesco on 6/24 @ 9:00 pm #
“Hiking or Hitting The Appalachian Trail” has now officially become sexual slang…
Act I-III so true. Great post.
Kudos to his soon to be ex-wife and I feel for the kids.
Comment by Darleen on 6/24 @ 9:05 pm #
HAPPYFEET!
Good to see you. I’m envious you got a chance to break bread with JD.
Comment by Darleen on 6/24 @ 9:08 pm #
Bob Reed
There is no reason for the media to reprint the emails, Sanford has done the public confession thing. Whoever prints them is as indecent as Sanford because they are only humiliating Jenny and the boys in public.
Comment by serr8d on 6/24 @ 9:15 pm #
Sanford’s quick resignation is the only way.
Oh, and Michelle (the good one) Malkin calls him a bastard.
I don’t see any hint of support for the bastard, anywhere atall.
Meanwhile, on Friday, the House vote on Cap and Trade (H.R. 2454) quietly moves forward. Tonight’s ABC-Obama love fest re: ‘Health Care’, served up as a distraction from C & T, was wasted, wasted. Obama is likely furious. You always take advantage of a crisis; and you never waste a perfectly good distraction.
Don’t forget to call your reps tomorrow.
Comment by Bob Reed on 6/24 @ 9:17 pm #
That’s part of what’s got me scratching my head Darleen…
While we may never know for sure, my intuition says that the source of the e-mails[inside SC government] and whomever drove the breathless media storm over his wherabouts, over a holiday weekend, are most certainly his rivals or operatives in their stead.
No excuse for Sanford, but had this been one of his “allies”, it might have been done more discreetly…
I’m starting to think that this was a convenient opportunity for another one of O!’s competitors and critics to be removed from the equation…
Comment by jazz hands on 6/24 @ 9:21 pm #
Hey, so what if the GOP once again creates an unintended self-mockery of their own pretensions toward moral ascendancy.
Its at least comforting to know that Republicans still have lots of credibility in regards to responsible spending and effective foreign policy.
Oh, wait….
Comment by Pablo on 6/24 @ 9:27 pm #
Oh, let’s chat about that. You can go first.
Comment by serr8d on 6/24 @ 9:28 pm #
jizz hands, the least fit of the Republicans have huge advantages over Democrats when morals are considered.
Abortion, for example.
Comment by thor on 6/24 @ 9:29 pm #
Who removed? Who is it that you speak of?
Face it, young, hot Socialist snapper is a mighty magnet. Fear the magnet, wingereds!
Comment by Abe Froman on 6/24 @ 9:30 pm #
Hey, so what if the GOP once again creates an unintended self-mockery of their own pretensions toward moral ascendancy.
Its at least comforting to know that Republicans still have lots of credibility in regards to responsible spending and effective foreign policy.
Oh, wait….
Outside of your little echo chamber that just sounds like the mother lode of stupid.
Comment by LTC John on 6/24 @ 9:31 pm #
Indeed, jazz. Al hamdu lillah that we have someone who is restrained in spending and a respected force in the foreign policy world to lead us…well, unless you count quadrupling the deficit in 4 months, being dissed by la France and Germany and laughed at by the Norks and Iranian mullahs…
Comment by bh on 6/24 @ 9:33 pm #
Ahhh, college.
Comment by geoffb on 6/24 @ 9:37 pm #
Is this the PMA thing?
Comment by Red Snapper on 6/24 @ 9:39 pm #
Eat me.
Comment by jazz hands on 6/24 @ 9:39 pm #
Nah, you go first. I just wrestled my iPhone back from the Hezbollah on the Appalachian Trail and I’m still trying to get the Muslim cooties off of it.
Comment by louchette on 6/24 @ 9:40 pm #
BH i would be most pleased to do so. not the classy ones tho, the ones who look like ‘ladies who lunch’ and not female drag queens. those broads i’ll buy a drink and ask where we should go dancing or for a nightcap. ;-)
seriously if you’d like to get together while you’re here let me know. i’d probably drag my better half along, but you’d like him i think; he’s another old punk rock guy, and a smarty pants, far snarkier than i even. email me if you like ozma_of_uranus at yahoo dot com (fix the at and the dot, like you know how to do.)
Comment by Darleen on 6/24 @ 9:43 pm #
Hey, so what if the GOP once again creates an unintended self-mockery of their own pretensions toward moral ascendancy.
See, this is fucking shit that gets trotted out because the amoral Left frames the argument and “We can’t give offense” non-leftists let them.
Jazz, if aspiring to an ideal is left to only flawless people, then there will be no more ideals…But that’s a feature of your ilk, not a bug.
Comment by bh on 6/24 @ 9:47 pm #
Yeah, louchette! Bane (and friend) of hotel whores in NY.
Comment by Cowboy on 6/24 @ 9:52 pm #
‘feets:
I may be available for a meet in Chicago while you’re there next month. I would love to meet you and guinspen for a drink!
Comment by Cowboy on 6/24 @ 9:55 pm #
Oh, and I rescued a medium-sized painted turtle from my golden retriever and rat terrier (Stupid and Evil, in that order). I cleaned him up and even got the oldest girl child to touch him.
He now resides in our pond with other turtles and huge mutant bullfrogs.
Comment by jazz hands on 6/24 @ 10:06 pm #
Then it would logically follow that you supported Bill Clinton’s cause at the time as opposed to Sanford’s desire to impeach him.
Is this true?
Comment by Spiny Norman on 6/24 @ 10:15 pm #
WTF? Bill Clinton NEVER claimed any ideal of that sort, he just claimed that oral sex wasn’t sex. Besides, it was nobody’s business if he abused his position of power over subordinates…
Nice “false dilemma” there, jazz.
Comment by Abe Froman on 6/24 @ 10:23 pm #
Why would jizz hands even go there? Good grief.
Comment by serr8d on 6/24 @ 10:28 pm #
Clinton lied under oath. Sex was secondary to the lie.
Sanford will be gone within 5 days, I think. We still can’t get rid of Clinton.
Comment by Darleen on 6/24 @ 10:39 pm #
jazz
does the word “perjury” exist in your universe?
Comment by Bob Reed on 6/24 @ 11:07 pm #
Wow…
The lefty’s are eating their own…
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/6/24/746547/-OlbermannPiece-of-CrapRush-Jr.
Put on saftey glasses while reading, but it is interesting
Comment by Darleen on 6/24 @ 11:12 pm #
Bob
That was interesting for about 3 seconds… but even as he was slamming Olbermann the koskiddie was bordering on rounding up Republicans and marching them to the ovens.
And the commenters were just as cult-like in the “Clinton got impeached for a blow job so scorch the earth of Rethuglicans – man woman child.”
I need to go bleach my eyes.
Comment by thor on 6/24 @ 11:19 pm #
Bleach does wonders for an upset stomach. Down half a glass and tell me how it goes.
Comment by Bob Reed on 6/24 @ 11:20 pm #
Yeah, I was aware of the Dogma; but I thought it might show a crack in the foundation-so to speak…
Blame Jim Treacher! He provided the link…
Comment by Bob Reed on 6/24 @ 11:21 pm #
The 4 horseman can’t be far thor,
I just linked to a Kos post…
Comment by bh on 6/24 @ 11:23 pm #
What would Celine say?
Comment by Bob Reed on 6/24 @ 11:23 pm #
Celine!
Comment by jazz hands on 6/24 @ 11:31 pm #
Actually, it does. The most recent examples were Alberto Gonzales and Scooter Libby.
One of them was convicted, the other disgraced forever.
But, of course, this all gets back to which party has the most to lose by having one their “fiscon” heroes getting caught fucking his chippy while selfishly hanging his staff, family and the state of SC out to dry.
Oh, and all of that after getting his ass handed to him in the state legislature.
Comment by thor on 6/24 @ 11:31 pm #
Oh Bobby, Bobb-o, Bob, I’m sure there’s lots of nice people over there at Kos. Personally I don’t visit the place very often and certainly never post there but they seem like fine overly political dorks.
Here’s how it is, Bob, just because people view the world differently doesn’t mean they’re bad peeps. I don’t have time to play on message boards outside of this here PW nut farm, but I do believe in equality of the nutty.
Man-o-man that Sanford dude was up there blubbering like a fool, had to wipe the tears from his eyes.
Good show.
Comment by bh on 6/24 @ 11:32 pm #
That’s no Celine, jazz hands.
Comment by bh on 6/24 @ 11:33 pm #
Celine, thor. I’ve chilled my scrotum with an icepack so that it could come as a full shock.
Okay, I’m ready.
Celine.
Comment by Bob Reed on 6/24 @ 11:33 pm #
OT:
“Faux” news is doin’ pretty darn good these days; 3rd best raring for overall advertising cable network…
http://www.reuters.com/article/industryNews/idUSTRE55O0LX20090625
Foucalt!
Comment by thor on 6/24 @ 11:39 pm #
Bob, Celine is funnier than a box a one-legged turtles. He’s also just deep enough and well written enough to be included in that list of authors that people who describe themselves as thoughtfully literate should read. But, Bob, it’s usually the liberal-to-the-extreme and sensitive types who burn with rage at the mention of his name.
Everyone loves Celine, they just don’t admit it until Mom is in the other room.
Comment by bh on 6/24 @ 11:40 pm #
White roux, fondue, Who are you, who who who who? Mr. Magoo? Who are you?
Mon Dieu.
Celine!
Comment by Bob Reed on 6/24 @ 11:42 pm #
Yeah thor,
He was crying pretty badly…
I probably would too in his situation. To realize that you traded everything for a tryst…
No matter who the lady is, how beautiful, or captivating, it’s just not worth trading your integrity for…
Because those moments of passion may be nice, but, alas moments are fleeting, and, well, cherche la femme may mean you’re high and dry anway eventually…
Better to stick with the one whose stuck with you, the mother of your children, the one you took the vows with before God and your family…
It’s an old story, like Icarus flying too close to the sun…
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve enjoyed the company of many beautiful, and otherwise fine ladies. But once I took my vows? Fuhgeddabowdit…
Loyalty means a lot to me I guess…
Best Wishes
Comment by bh on 6/24 @ 11:43 pm #
Okay, I was late.
Shit, I’m down with Celine. I want some piss in the eyes truth, I want to see some burning. Goats, with entrails trailing, telling me about their accounting job.
Comment by Bob Reed on 6/24 @ 11:46 pm #
Of course my wording is clumsy as it’s late here…
My wife is both beautiful and a fine lady. Once I took my vows though, I couldn’t entertain sharing the intimate company of another woman…
Comment by bh on 6/24 @ 11:47 pm #
Wicked style, thor. The kids are asleep.
Bring it home. Celine!
Comment by geoffb on 6/24 @ 11:54 pm #
Celine,
For thor
Celine,
for the Obama Ship of State
Celine,
just because I like this one.
Comment by thor on 6/24 @ 11:54 pm #
I’m of the European character when it comes to the in and out. As long as you get the wink-wink nod-nod from your lady and as long as it’s 1000-miles away from home, fresh snapper keeps a man feeling young. Certain of the European women stock not only expect a man’s foibles, they see you as a fool if you don’t knock it out when you have the rare chance.
It’s just sex.
The love contract, the passions of the heart, that’s where you fuck up. Have to get that pass.
Comment by pdbuttons on 6/25 @ 12:01 am #
except my “european” sister..
who i’ll stone to death…
for watching madonna in that crappy movie evita
she only has her eyes to blame..
shame
Comment by bh on 6/25 @ 12:05 am #
In the olden days I’d agree with thor and then sacrifice a bunny rabbit or young deer when I got home.
Ahhh, the olden days, good times.
Comment by Bob Reed on 6/25 @ 12:06 am #
You are correct about that European cultural affectation. I know it used to drive some American women nuts to hear some of the French and Italian ladies characterize their husbands pecadillos with such a blase tone.
I won’t go as far as to say they all wanted, and expected it to happen, but they certainly didn’t seem to upset if it did. Indeed, in moments of pique I’ve heard Italian women tell their husbands to have their girlfriends fix their supper, and so on; I have to admit to being amused…
But, it’s not for me; I gave up the free love, multiple concurrent partners thing years ago…
I guess when I found one real good one, that was enough for me…
But, you know, I still look; just no touchee!
Comment by geoffb on 6/25 @ 12:17 am #
OT:
How sweet are those loving Democrats?
Iran and plans.
Comment by jazz hands on 6/25 @ 12:20 am #
That’s right Celine, ooh la la…
Wow. That’s hot.
Comment by bh on 6/25 @ 12:24 am #
Yeah, not the Celine we were talking about. Thanks for following geoff’s joke though.
Comment by jazz hands on 6/25 @ 12:36 am #
bh – Yeah.
Comment by geoffb on 6/25 @ 1:11 am #
Celine, author, french,but not the right one.
But this, Celine, now we hit paydirt.
Comment by Salt Lick on 6/25 @ 5:00 am #
I don’t understand why he did this,
Well crap, I do. I’m a middle-aged man who at times in his 32 year marriage has felt I needed a soul mate like the one I had when my wife and I were in our twenties. I wanted to feel young and in love, and thank God the right set of circumstances didn’t arise to make that disaster happen. I’ve seen the consequences too often to think it would have been a good thing.
This kind of thing is as old as Baghdad. It’s only when it turns into serial sexual abuse — see Bill Clinton — that I perk up and go into full-bore condemnation.
I hope Sanford does not resign. That would be the easy way out.
Comment by B Moe on 6/25 @ 5:28 am #
How about being morally retarded fascists? Does that make them bad peeps?
And please notice the unity of message on the Kos thread, and the way the trolls see Sanford’s indiscretion as a failing of the Republican Party, not an individual. That is why they eschew principles or standards of decency, it is easier to protect and promote the hive mind that way.
Comment by B Moe on 6/25 @ 5:35 am #
That is what everything always gets back to for a Progressive: how can I use this politically?
No morals.
No ethics.
No principles.
No nothing, but raw craving for money and power. Yet you call others greedy and hypocrites and are so fucking vapid and shallow you actually believe it.
Comment by ccoffer on 6/25 @ 5:46 am #
Darleen,
I disagree with the notion that there is a special sort of temptation that goes along with being a politician.
Most men want to screw every woman on earth…twice. Its simply a byproduct of having balls. There is nothing immoral about that. The immorality comes in to play when you betray your family for the sake of getting laid.
Pussy isn’t Kryptonite, but it’s close.
Comment by Salt Lick on 6/25 @ 5:52 am #
I disagree with the notion that there is a special sort of temptation that goes along with being a politician.
I think you may be missing Darleen’s point, just slightly. Tons of women throwing themselves in your way, because you have enormous power and celebrity, is a “special sort of temptation” that most of us horny bastards aren’t subjected to.
Me, I have to rely on my extreme good looks. George Clooney is just a dog.
Comment by htor on 6/25 @ 6:01 am #
I believe it! Fuckin’ vapid!
Check the vapors coming off your coffee. Good vapid morning to ya!
Comment by Carin on 6/25 @ 6:04 am #
Shit, I’m down with Celine. I want some piss in the eyes truth, I want to see some burning. Goats, with entrails trailing, telling me about their accounting job.
Threadwinner. Bh, claim your prize.
Comment by thor on 6/25 @ 6:10 am #
Mark the time, mark your calenders: I agree with Salt Lick and ccoffer.
The man tagged some stray tang, so what. And the fact that he’s a lying hypocrite just goes with the territory of being a Republican; it’s not like anyone expects anything better from the fake Christian morality pimps.
I bet the exotic little Argentinian Socialist is a dandy piece of ass. Sanford has four boys, it’s not like in good time they won’t understand what drove Dad into the arms of sin. Ass.
Comment by B Moe on 6/25 @ 6:13 am #
the fact that he’s a lying hypocrite just goes with the territory of being a Republican
And the knee jerks right on cue…
Comment by B Moe on 6/25 @ 6:14 am #
Or should I say the dog slobbers? That seems more fitting.
Comment by thor on 6/25 @ 6:17 am #
At least it was only my knee jerking.
Hot chicks! I dig ‘em! Wanna fuck ‘em! Three weeks every month!
Comment by JHo on 6/25 @ 6:17 am #
This was a convenient opportunity to promote something other than Democrat fail to the front page. Consider: There isn’t a single major Democrat initiative succeeding right now (even with with the usual hordes of media lackeys and all powah in Dem hands). The polls are punishing the Dems in Congress and they’re punishing Obie. The entire Democrat ethic, such as it is, is in shambles. Let that sink in.
Folks, we’re living in interesting times. We’ve found our voices and we’re stopping socialism, at least to a degree and at least for the moment. That’s something quite unexpected.
They needs them some diversion and this stupid bastard just gave it them. Don’t help them. When you see serious, breathless Analysis™ on the failures of Republican core integrity because of Sanford and Ensign (the latter who is handily leading Dingy Harry in local polls) you know they’re playing desperation ball. That’s not news, that’s fluffy, unmitigated, diversionary bullshit churned out again and again by the alphabets even as their readership and viewership tanks. What’s left for them is sensationalizing what they’ve got left. This “issue” is enabled by our tabloid mentality.
So don’t do that. Sanford should resign. Clinton should have resigned. Half of Capitol Hill should resign. This isn’t about party, it’s about integrity. Sanford shouldn’t even be newsworthy outside his state but yet here we are, aren’t we? Why? Because we’re idiots lapping up partisan politics, consuming and feeding the American media’s lowest ebb yet, the one they found during the cheapest version of America we’ve ever seen.
Comment by thor on 6/25 @ 6:21 am #
Good morning, Raging Rethuglitard!
Comment by LTC John on 6/25 @ 6:22 am #
“the cheapest version of America we’ve ever seen.”
?
Comment by JHo on 6/25 @ 6:28 am #
Do you not have a television set for to get your “news” LTC?
Comment by B Moe on 6/25 @ 6:30 am #
Hot chicks! I dig ‘em! Wanna fuck ‘em! Three weeks every month!
Fucking, fighting, acute misogyny and a chronic fixation on Larry Craig.
Just can’t get over yourself, can you?
Comment by Pablo on 6/25 @ 6:32 am #
Eh. At least he’s laying off the scat this morning.
Comment by JHo on 6/25 @ 6:33 am #
How’s that Democratisation coming, thor? Rushing wonderfully restorative policy past the rubes and hicks and white people, are they? Progressivism finally making the world safe for freaks and perverts, is it? Under O! we’ve evolved to the highest state of mankind, that being the collective, have we?
I mean, we gave these visionary champions of progg-rhetoric all three branches and they can’t pass free medicine, a restored dollar, solar-system CO2 cleansing or a Senate Leader with an approval rating above mud. Probably the blitz strategy just needs it some time to get to the quarterback, eh, jeenus?
I crap bigger than you, thor.
Comment by thor on 6/25 @ 6:33 am #
Jobless claims 627K, Q1 final GDP neg 5.5%.
Working the Bushonomics out of the economy is going to take a while.
Comment by thor on 6/25 @ 6:36 am #
You do seem constantly close to the brim, from what I’ve noticed.
Comment by Pablo on 6/25 @ 6:42 am #
Obamanomics is going to need a tether to keep it from burning up in the atmosphere. Maybe Warren can bankroll that project.
Comment by JHo on 6/25 @ 6:43 am #
I propose a new standard: The JHo Ratio, wherein we rate, on a ten scale, party success by contrasting political power with, as The Last Adolescent President was fond of saying, The Work of the American People™.
You dig, thor? The JHo ratio proclaims the current crop of loser-liars — you can call them parasite-Democrats if you like, what for all the envy and theft they Bring Back Home™, thereby relieving Their Constituent’s™ misery from under the bootheel of productivity, self-responsibility, and liberty — to have convincingly earned a near-perfect ten: The most political power in, like, freaking forever, and the least to show for it.
It is to gloat. Yep. Not enuf votes, somefreakinghow, for darn near anything aimed at Finally Returning the Constitution Back to the Hands of the American Proggopportunist™. Shucks. Pitch me another Schlitz, Maude, dem Dem’crats a’ours done peed the baed.
Sorry for all the left-lingo but if they didn’t brand it all it’d just be called a lie and a fraud. Tell me, thor, when did envy and theft get promoted from that seven deadly list thingie to party platform?
Comment by Abe Froman on 6/25 @ 6:45 am #
Fucking, fighting, acute misogyny and a chronic fixation on Larry Craig.
Just can’t get over yourself, can you?
It’s just a badly drawn out character he uses. A bad writer with no life yields masturbatory flailing. He’s a few boring stories about big game fishing from being the gayest, most sheltered make-believe Hemingway in the southern half of Florida.
Comment by B Moe on 6/25 @ 6:48 am #
How about being morally retarded fascists? Does that make them bad peeps?
You never did answer that question, thor.
http://newmajority.com/ShowScroll.aspx?ID=08a33160-6d9d-4400-adae-5a610c76f4da
Viva la Revolución!
Comment by thor on 6/25 @ 6:48 am #
???? Jho ratio? Is that the quantity of your bonker steam divided by the number of newly disgraced Repubs?
The fact is I’m almost always right, JHo. I’m sorry. There’s nothing I can do to stop myself from being this way.
Comment by B Moe on 6/25 @ 6:49 am #
He’s a few boring stories about big game fishing from being the gayest, most sheltered make-believe Hemingway in the southern half of Florida.
An Ignatius O’Reilly who thinks he is Charles Bukowsky.
Comment by Carin on 6/25 @ 6:51 am #
Sandford is an honor-less turd. Next.
How did The Obamacare Project go last night? Anyone watch?
Comment by Salt Lick on 6/25 @ 6:52 am #
Consider: There isn’t a single major Democrat initiative succeeding right now… The entire Democrat ethic, such as it is, is in shambles.
Absolutely, JHo. e.g., It’s stunning how fast Wonder Boy’s naive Iranian policy has crumbled to dust. Dinner Jacket has thrown him out of the Circle Jerk of Friendship. Wonder Boy retaliates by cutting of Dinner Jacket’s Big Wiener Invitation.
Iraq begins to heat up as Wonder Boy further works his magical soft, hard tan face.
Flames and charred wreckage. A Middle East in flames within years.
But “Look! Over there! A wandering weenie!”
Comment by N. O'Brain on 6/25 @ 6:52 am #
“Hey, so what if the GOP once again creates an unintended self-mockery of their own pretensions toward moral ascendancy.”
Aaannnd….again:
“The reason any conservative’s failing is always major news is that it allows liberals to engage in their very favorite taunt: Hypocrisy! Hypocrisy is the only sin that really inflames them. Inasmuch as liberals have no morals, they can sit back and criticize other people for failing to meet the standards that liberals simply renounce. It’s an intriguing strategy. By openly admitting to being philanderers, draft dodgers, liars, weasels and cowards, liberals avoid ever being hypocrites.”
-Ann Coulter
Comment by Matt on 6/25 @ 6:53 am #
only difference is republicans have the good sense to be embarassed when our politicians do something like this.
Comment by thor on 6/25 @ 6:53 am #
If you don’t blame the actions of every creepy pobrescito on me then I, in return, won’t blame you for every jack-off addicted hick rethuglidum.
Comment by JHo on 6/25 @ 6:54 am #
How long, jeenus? It being my money and my families, how long? I don’t mean to be anxious and all, but with Obie having had six months to all but toss us into another Depression — the thing the Fed was supposed to prevent for all time, amen, or so said a buncha Democrats a long time ago as they stole our futures so as to line their political nests — it seems you might give the rest of us an inkling just what the great men of finance have in mind. You know, men like BarneyNancyHarryObie.
How long? How the heck long, thor. Because what I see is a trillion in new interest-bearing debt and pork stretching from, literally, Cambodia to Bermuda, and a dollar-fail column a mile wide and ten deep. Oh, and an American public favoring ending Obieconomics 47% to 33% wasn’t it? Six months in. That’s a half-year to you. Jeenus.
How long? Twelve months? How about ninety-six? Maybe after a hundred and twenty, when we’re by then a hundred into a new monetary system, maybe then we can look back and say that Obie-Keynesian economics was the miserable failure mid 2009 it was in 2012 when he was thrown out.
Comment by B Moe on 6/25 @ 6:54 am #
“By openly admitting to being philanderers, draft dodgers, liars, weasels and cowards, liberals avoid ever being hypocrites.â€
Actually, Coulter’s got it wrong. By castigating others for behavior they find acceptable amongst themselves, they are the very definition of a hypocrite.
Comment by JHo on 6/25 @ 6:56 am #
Indeed. Especially on GM, Obieconomics, and the insatiable lure progressivism has on redstate hicks. If only given the chance.
Comment by B Moe on 6/25 @ 6:57 am #
If you don’t blame the actions of every creepy pobrescito on me then I, in return, won’t blame you for every jack-off addicted hick rethuglidum.
You are the one preaching the wonders of Latin American Socialist Revolution, dude. You’ve puked it all over the last three days worth of threads. You have offered to give us lessons on how to build our own Tropical Workers Paradise.
Well there is your dream, dumb ass. Fucking own it.
Comment by B Moe on 6/25 @ 6:59 am #
thor’s world:
swaztikas and pogroms = marital infidelity
Vapid doesn’t begin to describe you.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 6/25 @ 7:01 am #
The fact is I’m almost always right, JHo. I’m sorry. There’s nothing I can do to stop myself from being this way.
Stuff and nonsense. That bleach you recommended to Darleen should do the job just fine. You may need a few white lines to steel yourself for it, but that’s for you to decide.
Carpe Moris, my good man.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 6/25 @ 7:01 am #
“Comment by thor on 6/24 @ 11:31 pm #
Oh Bobby, Bobb-o, Bob, I’m sure there’s lots of nice people over there at Kos. Personally I don’t visit the place very often and certainly never post there”
The dung beetle is too offensive a creature for kos.
Very telling.
Comment by serr8d on 6/25 @ 7:02 am #
An exclusive picture of Gov. Sanford and an Argentine model~!
Yeah. He wishes.
Comment by JHo on 6/25 @ 7:04 am #
Obiefail: The Nuke Norks. Iran. Cap & Trade. Obieconomics from sea to shining sea. Single payer. Gay freaking marriage (laff). The polls. The Dem SuperMajority. Anything I missed and I know I have.
Actually, unprecedented fail, thor. I mean if you take a peek at political initiative and powah versus actual life-renewing, proggopportunist, collectivist socialism on the ground, what’s with the inability to get shit done? We give em all the branches and they still can’t get ‘er done. Broke pens, probably, because surely it’s not the moral bankruptcy of the ideology. Nah, not that.
Maybe it takes time to build even more of a majority so as to fully educate The American People™ on the joys of losing everything including their liberty. Kinda like recovering from BoooshCo takes time.
Jeenus. You got nothing except a ginned up online personna.
Comment by thor on 6/25 @ 7:04 am #
Whoa, hold on there, mule stripper, mi Revolocion muchos grande no esta semehente de otro revolocions.
My goddamn Commie revolution is gonna fuckin’ rock and roll and bring peace and prosperity to the oppressed! And I’ll get laid a lot, too. So there.
Comment by Bob Reed on 6/25 @ 7:05 am #
Carin,
I wouldn’t waste eyeball time on it, but from what I’ve read so far; no…
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/25/a-swing-and-a-miss-on-the-public-plan/
Thank God…
Comment by thor on 6/25 @ 7:09 am #
O! rocked, as usual.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 6/25 @ 7:10 am #
My goddamn Commie revolution is gonna fuckin’ rock and roll and bring peace and prosperity to the oppressed! And I’ll get laid a lot, too. So there.
And then the ice
pickman cometh, if I recall correctly.Comment by JHo on 6/25 @ 7:11 am #
You’re not answering, thor. You simpering simp.
Comment by Abe Froman on 6/25 @ 7:13 am #
Whoa, hold on there, mule stripper, mi Revolocion muchos grande no esta semehente de otro revolocions.
My goddamn Commie revolution is gonna fuckin’ rock and roll and bring peace and prosperity to the oppressed! And I’ll get laid a lot, too. So there.
You ought to avail yourself of Spanish spell check Presidente Gonzalo.
Comment by thor on 6/25 @ 7:16 am #
I can’t, JHo. I must go now and direct my attention to capitalist endeavors.
I’ll be posting my Communist Manifesto soon enough, then we’ll play, OK.
Peace, love and trekking backpacks and indigenous peoples-crafted leather sandals to you.
Comment by JHo on 6/25 @ 7:17 am #
You taunt me, thor. Imagine my anticipation.
Comment by JHo on 6/25 @ 7:17 am #
I mean, all these months…
Altho you said it’d take time.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 6/25 @ 7:18 am #
That’s not his game. His game is to throw a bunch of shit around and ACT like he’s in command of all facts. the first thing you sell is sincerity, the second, universality. Homeboy knows his shit, and knows its shit.
Comment by JHo on 6/25 @ 7:20 am #
But he’ll be back, Noisy, and with a vengeance borne of a thousand truths.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 6/25 @ 7:22 am #
Well, yeah, that’s the interesting part. It’s always easier to be riding the crimson wave than having to talk about anything seriously.
Comment by Abe Froman on 6/25 @ 7:29 am #
But he’ll be back,
Well of course he will. People give him everything he comes for.
Comment by JHo on 6/25 @ 7:34 am #
Not entirely, Abe. thor can’t stand the light of day and if one remembers to stay on the topic of left = fail, then he naturally runs off. Plus he’s such a perfect example of left = fail that he can be useful for pointing out just how and why.
Liberty is about principle. thor makes politics all about his own base condition. The contrast is striking.
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Comment by thor on 6/25 @ 6:33 am #
Jobless claims 627K, Q1 final GDP neg 5.5%.
Working the Bushonomics out of the economy is going to take a while.”
They’re O!bama’s numbers, dung beetle.
Learn ‘em, love ‘em, eat it.
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Comment by Carin on 6/25 @ 7:41 am #
I wouldn’t waste eyeball time on it, but from what I’ve read so far; no…
I looked around, Bob, and apparently it was a big old nothing. Cato live-blogged it.
I don’t think much of anything was asked or answered.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 6/25 @ 7:47 am #
The dung beetle wanders off, defeated once again.
Pitiful, just pitiful
Comment by alppuccino on 6/25 @ 7:49 am #
Obama watches himself watching the young Iranians being stabbed in the street. Yawn.
Sanford stabs an Argentine with his wiener. OUTRAGE.
I’m sure Barry wants to see how this all plays out.
Comment by B Moe on 6/25 @ 7:51 am #
Orrin Devinsky, a neurologist at the New York University Langone Medical Center, challenged Obama: What if the president’s wife and daughters got sick? Would Obama promise that they would get only the services allowed under a new government insurance plan he is proposing?
Obama wouldn’t bite. If “it’s my family member, if it’s my wife, if it’s my children, if it’s my grandmother, I always want them to get the very best care,” Obama said.
“If we are smart we should be able to design a system in which people still have choices,” he said.
How smart do you have to be to know that is what we have now?
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/20090625_Obama_and_Congress_press_ahead_on_health_care.html
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 6/25 @ 8:06 am #
Now, that shit is funny. You never say anything reasoned, provocative or factual, so how can you be right?
Comment by Blacque Jacques Shellacque on 6/25 @ 8:14 am #
“I’m really pissed off at the politician Mark Sanford for giving the Obama-ankle-licking reporters a great excuse not to cover seriously damaging policies Obama is trying to ram through before the public gets to find out about them.”
My sentiment as well.
What is this Sanford guy, a maverick or something?
Comment by Joe on 6/25 @ 8:19 am #
Obama is to blame for Sanford’s fall…
Those ears are really interstellar communication devices.
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Ahmadinejad has his own
SanfordMcGreevey moment.Comment by Matt on 6/25 @ 10:53 am #
Sorta off topic- I don’t know about the rest of you but I’m dying to know what the mistress looks like. Argentian woman are some of the most beautiful woman I’ve ever met or seen. She would have to be something to throw away a career and a possible presidential future.
Comment by BuddyPC on 6/25 @ 12:39 pm #
I wasn’t really keeping score, so is Sanford the second big time politico to go AWOL this week, or was there another in between?
115. Comment by N. O’Brain on 6/25 @ 6:52 am #
“…….. By openly admitting to being philanderers, draft dodgers, liars, weasels and cowards, liberals avoid ever being hypocrites.â€
But not tax cheats, because the left side doesn’t disclaim any moral ascendancy regarding tax patriotism. Hence that silence. Plus personal CO2 footprints.
Comment by B Moe on 6/25 @ 12:48 pm #
She would have to be something to throw away a career and a possible presidential future.
One would hope. That was one of the things that most disappointed me about Clinton, Monica Lewinsky is a femme fatale? Are you kidding me?
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