as per Pablo in comments, and here.
This is probably a good strategy, since her constituency is heavily moonbat and won’t be swayed by evidence or reason. Just sayin’.
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San Fran Nan Accuses CIA of Lying [Dan Collins]
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Comment by happyfeet on 5/14 @ 10:04 am #
that link problem again but for sure I’m intrigued and will check back for to be clicking enthusiastically
Comment by Dan Collins on 5/14 @ 10:07 am #
D’oh! Should be fixed.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 5/14 @ 10:07 am #
I will hold my breathe until this gets wide press coverage. This will get swept under the rug as soon as Michelle goes outside wearing another sleeveless shirt.
Comment by Pablo on 5/14 @ 10:08 am #
Boehner’s on now. The short version? “Let’s get it on!”
Comment by geoffb on 5/14 @ 10:08 am #
Ah, she did by the backhoe, and it works.
Comment by geoffb on 5/14 @ 10:09 am #
buy not by
Comment by Pablo on 5/14 @ 10:11 am #
“The Speaker has had way too many stories on this issue.”
Heh.
Comment by Sdferr on 5/14 @ 10:11 am #
Comment by Carin on 5/14 @ 10:16 am #
This could be fun!
“My statement is clear. Let me read it again. Let me read it again.”
heh.
Comment by geoffb on 5/14 @ 10:17 am #
Now what is it that will be pushed to the back pages or never covered while this is ongoing? It’s a nice act in the center ring. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving person. But what is playing out, away from the spotlights?
Comment by Carin on 5/14 @ 10:17 am #
She was not briefed on what was in that briefing. heh.
Comment by Carin on 5/14 @ 10:17 am #
Ok, lemme go visit Huffpo to see if it’s even made the radar.
Comment by maggie katzen on 5/14 @ 10:18 am #
you’re outing yourself, Carin. ;D
Comment by Carin on 5/14 @ 10:18 am #
Banner headline on Huffpo: “Speaker Pelosi: The CIA LIED TO ME”
Comment by Carin on 5/14 @ 10:19 am #
Outing myself as a shameless stealer. I don’t read the Puppy blender.
Comment by Carin on 5/14 @ 10:21 am #
HA. she was informed that there was a briefing. But she was not briefed. She was only briefed about the briefing.
Comment by Sdferr on 5/14 @ 10:21 am #
there was a brief briefing about which she wasn’t briefed but that someone else was breifed but she wasn’t briefed briefly or otherwise
Comment by Carin on 5/14 @ 10:21 am #
Too bad there is absolutely nothing funny about the donks.
Comment by Carin on 5/14 @ 10:22 am #
Honestly, this is just as good as the Bill Clinton “is” moment.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 5/14 @ 10:23 am #
Carin if you want the left wing reaction to this go read the comments to Pelosi’s presser at the Politico. You can pretty much sum them up with “BUT BUSH LIED ABOUT ___________!!!!!!!” and a few psychos saying that they actually believe that the CIA lied to her since Cheney was in charge of it at the time.
Comment by maggie katzen on 5/14 @ 10:26 am #
from Rush. ;D I suppose I didn’t quote the right bit. so you’re on the list with Sdferr, me and B Moe.
Anyhoo, this is just the kind of thing I want to hear from someone on the intelligence committee. or not.
Comment by maggie katzen on 5/14 @ 10:26 am #
OVERSIGHT!
Comment by Carin on 5/14 @ 10:27 am #
Oh, yes. I was listening to Rush.
I’ll admit it. I do listen to Rush with some regularity. I hope Obama fails too.
Comment by Sdferr on 5/14 @ 10:29 am #
Weapons of mass destruction as iconic touchstone of misleading, the purest expression of a lie andevershallbeworldwithoutendamen
Comment by Pablo on 5/14 @ 10:30 am #
“I wasn’t briefed, I was informed.”
Comment by Rob Crawford on 5/14 @ 10:31 am #
“I was not briefed; I was pantsed.”
During the gagging, she escapes…
Comment by Pablo on 5/14 @ 10:32 am #
ROVE!!!
Comment by JD on 5/14 @ 10:35 am #
This is just soooooo rich.
Comment by Sdferr on 5/14 @ 10:37 am #
What was Steny thinking again?
Comment by kelly on 5/14 @ 10:38 am #
Caution: Repeated botox injections may lead to a false sense of imperviousness. Or an impervious sense of falseness.
Comment by Carin on 5/14 @ 10:38 am #
Pelosi- fucking political pos:
Uh uh uh … mutter, mutter … “My statement is clear. Let me read it again. Let me read it again.â€
Comment by JD on 5/14 @ 10:41 am #
Let me read it again. Let me read it again.
Standard Leftist tactic of repeating their bullshit until it becomes accepted.
Comment by happyfeet on 5/14 @ 10:44 am #
This is really a lot following Mr. Rockefeller’s script I think. When you play politics with national security this is where it leads sooner or later. I know this because the CIA is reliably gay and will reliably fuck you up.
Comment by Matt on 5/14 @ 10:46 am #
Rush is calling it “Pelosi 5.0″ =0
Picking a fight with Langley on this is moronic and it speaks volumes about both Pelosi and her constituents that she can’t even cop to EIT’s for thugs like KSM.
Comment by Pablo on 5/14 @ 10:49 am #
Who’s have guessed that waterboarding would be this much fun? I was thinking of it as an unpleasant but necessary tactic. I’m beginning to think that it’s the best thing evah!
Comment by Sdferr on 5/14 @ 10:58 am #
By Rockefeller’s script I take it you are referring to this leaked memo happyfeet? It’s a good thing to re-read a few years later.
Comment by kelly on 5/14 @ 11:01 am #
Anyone taking odds as to the extent of Teh One’s administration’s hand in this? Aren’t Toes and Steny thick as thieves? And is it wrong of me to think that “Steny” could be hooker slang for “stiff but teeny?”
Comment by Sdferr on 5/14 @ 11:03 am #
Not sure, but could be Steny is hooker slang for “gee, i didn’t expect to run into you in Dundalk.
Comment by Joe on 5/14 @ 11:03 am #
Schadenfreud! Delicious when poured over waffles.
Comment by JD on 5/14 @ 11:05 am #
The irony of the Leftists destroying themselves over waterboarding is just delicious.
Comment by Joe on 5/14 @ 11:07 am #
Things to do in San Francisco: I enjoy a glass of Schadenfreud while watching the surf at Seal Rocks.
Comment by Pablo on 5/14 @ 11:22 am #
Cheney’s request to release EIT memos: REFUSED.
BECAUSE OF THE TRANSPARENCY!!!
Comment by Mr. Pink on 5/14 @ 11:25 am #
Here is some initial spin from the WaPo I think you guys will enjoy. Pay careful attention to when the word “process” turns up.
“While Pelosi’s press conference this morning was clearly intended to put to rest a process story that all politicians hate, it may well have the opposite effect — raising more questions about her timeline and her past statements.”
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/house/pelosi-fuels-torture-fire.html
Comment by Sdferr on 5/14 @ 11:30 am #
Pablo, mightn’t Amnesty Inter. withdraw their FOIA request (or suit) for those specific memos, thus removing the court case as an excuse for the continued withholding and putting the ball back in Obama’s lap?
Comment by Pablo on 5/14 @ 11:32 am #
Sdferr, I think the argument that Amnesty’s FOIA request/suit somehow precludes the release (especially given what Obama has already decided to release) is ridiculous. But the thought of Amnesty acting in support of Dick Cheney makes me giggle.
Comment by kelly on 5/14 @ 11:33 am #
Why on earth would do that, Sdferr? They’re just as much in the tank for Teh One as the media is.
Comment by Sdferr on 5/14 @ 11:36 am #
Why on earth would do that? I assumed they wanted to see the documents. If this procedure might get them that desire fullfilled the sooner (and possibly with less cost?), why not take it?
Comment by ken on 5/14 @ 11:36 am #
If there was ever a case for waterboarding someone, finding out what Nancy knew and when she started lying about it is moving to the top of the list.
Comment by Pablo on 5/14 @ 11:39 am #
In case you missed it, here’s the Pelosi presser video.
Comment by lee on 5/14 @ 11:44 am #
As someone that thinks EIT does not equal torture, I would feel better about Nancy if she admitted she wanted to do more than waterboarding.
So, from that perspective, what I find outrageous (if I actually believed the lying cunt) is her dereliction of duty in; a)not attending the briefing even though she was chair of the house intelligence committee, and b)failing that, not even being briefed on what was said.
The excuse is worse that the fucking charge!
It’s like telling the cops “I wasn’t soliciting a prostitute, I didn’t know she was a hooker. I was just raping the woman!”
Comment by Matt on 5/14 @ 11:46 am #
Anyone listenin to Rush playing those Obama soundbites- apparently, we need to give up our dreams of success so we can do what Our Dear Leader wants us to do. If you’re in business, go help a non-profit, if you’re a nurse, go work at a low income clinic, if you’re engineer, work towards a greener tomorrow. Sure, you won’t make shit for money and you’ll live off the public dole and probably will never pay off your student loans but at least you’ll be doing what Teleprompter Jesus tells you to.
He makes me want to puke. Really. Even Bill #!#ing Clinton didn’t say idiotic things like this. Note to Obama- SELF INTEREST BUILT THIS COUNTRY. Course, not ever making an honest dime in his life, how the hell could the community organizer understand capitalism.
Seriously, sick to my stomach.
Comment by geoffb on 5/14 @ 11:49 am #
Another thought.
These hearing could be useful as a way to draw out and identify those in the intelligence community whose primary loyalty is to either the agency or the USA. They then could be quietly marginalized or purged in the coming years. Leaving those whose loyalty is to the Party.
Comment by geoffb on 5/14 @ 11:50 am #
Think positive. Obama to America, “Go Galt”.
Comment by Sdferr on 5/14 @ 11:52 am #
Nanny Nan went to Iraq for Mother’s Day to remind everyone to call home.
Comment by happyfeet on 5/14 @ 12:02 pm #
thank you sdferr – google for some reason is super slow here today – it’s just our network I think
Comment by Mr. Pink on 5/14 @ 12:04 pm #
Hearing stuff like this makes me depressed simply because it is obvious that people’s main focus will be on a single target, Pelosi, and whether she lied or not, instead of on the fact that our national security was being thrown out the window by a political party so they could use selectively leaked classified information to advance their own interest.
Comment by kelly on 5/14 @ 12:08 pm #
The cynic in says Amnesty et al are figuring out what the rest of the country is figuring out: Nan and her fellow travellers knew about the EIT long ago and are trying (and failing) to CTA, big time. Since it’s become clear that the witch hunt for Republicans is going to snare the Speaker and others, all the groups like Amnesty are cooling their ardor and remain perfectly willing to be the Dem’s foil.
Comment by kelly on 5/14 @ 12:13 pm #
Wish I could share your concern about “national security was being thrown out the window,” Mr. Pink. I guess I’m jaded from eight years of our national security being used as a political weapon against Bush by…the CIA.
Comment by Sdferr on 5/14 @ 12:13 pm #
a single target, Pelosi
But, as our Democrat leaders are fond of saying, Mr Pink, let’s be clear. This single person is nominally the third or fourth most powerful person in our scheme of government. Individuals and their individual character (or lack of same) we say, matter. It does matter that the third or fourth most powerful person in our scheme of government is a lying skunk.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 5/14 @ 12:18 pm #
It does matter I know, I just have seen this play before. Sorry to play the what if a Republican did it game but I am positive this would be played out in the MSM and thru that most people’s minds as it being the party who was lieing and throwing national security away in order to gain a political advantage. Here it will be confined just to Pelosi if there is any damage at all which I doubt since the MSM has proven time and time again they will simply bury any information harming Dem’s in the Age of Obama.
Comment by Pablo on 5/14 @ 12:23 pm #
kelly, I suspect their general anti-Americanism may trump any preference they have for Democrats over Republicans.
Comment by Sdferr on 5/14 @ 12:26 pm #
I don’t think this issue can possibly be “confined” Mr Pink. There are too many significant individuals taking stands much too important to the security of the nation to sweep anything under the rug. Obama isn’t going anywhere soon and he’s got a stance. Cheney isn’t going anywhere. You aren’t going away. Steny isn’t going away. Happyfeet won’t go away. Dave Petraeus isn’t going away. (Odierno? I’m not to sure about him right now? heh) David Obey isn’t going away. This thinger has the hugest legs, legs bigger than even R. Crumb could imagine.
Comment by Matt on 5/14 @ 12:40 pm #
I sleep better at night knowing succession is Obama-Biden-Pelosi. Its probably the only time I’d prefer Obama at anything.
Comment by Silver Whistle on 5/14 @ 1:05 pm #
I’m wondering how the Dear Leader can let the CIA and Pelosi go to the mattresses – he can’t afford to let the CIA be called a pack of liars, can he? Does he throw the old elephant skin rug under the bus?
Comment by Sdferr on 5/14 @ 1:14 pm #
Is she his to throw now SW?
Comment by Silver Whistle on 5/14 @ 1:17 pm #
All he has to do is call her out – she can’t buck the Messiah. Oh, did I say that? Please denounce me.
Comment by Silver Whistle on 5/14 @ 1:26 pm #
Apart from the schadenfreude, what I’m loving is the power dynamics here. Who will be allowed to win? Whose credibility is more important to the One? If he backs the Speaker in return for God knows what, the CIA will continue the drip drip drip of briefings, memos, etc. I can’t see the old hag getting out alive.
Comment by Sdferr on 5/14 @ 1:28 pm #
I can’t see the old hag getting out alive.
I think I must agree there, which is why I’d expect Obama to keep as much distance as he credibly can and let her caucus deal with the “problem”.
Comment by Sdferr on 5/14 @ 1:32 pm #
Stepping for a moment gingerly along that thought-trail SW, we can expect that as Nanny Nan goes down, her collegial loyalists (such as John Murtha) will likely be going down right along with her. This could indeed become quite the circus.
Comment by Silver Whistle on 5/14 @ 1:32 pm #
What kind of witch’s bargain can she make to keep her overstuffed arse on the Speaker’s seat? What does she give up to keep some power?
Comment by Sdferr on 5/14 @ 1:36 pm #
I’m at a loss to conceive what can save her after her performance today. It was akin to watching an imbecile commit a fumbling seppuku and botching the job. We’ll just have to wait until one of her retainers can finish it with the coup de grace.
Comment by Silver Whistle on 5/14 @ 1:39 pm #
You don’t think hearings will be held, names taken, fingers pointed, deals struck, etc.?
Comment by Sdferr on 5/14 @ 1:44 pm #
hearings…held [unsheathing the sword]
names taken…..[drawing back to swing]
fingers pointed [forward stroke]
deals struck….[well yes, amongst the survivors divvying up the loot]
Comment by Silver Whistle on 5/14 @ 1:46 pm #
Sdferr, you’ve cheered me up no end. Thanks. I’m going to pour a drink!
Comment by kelly on 5/14 @ 1:48 pm #
Pelosi’s too stupid to know she’s unwittingly already made a Faustian bargain, SW. What she has going for her is that her soul is worthless to Beezlebub. Perhaps I’m being too gracious. One can’t do anything “unwittingly” if one does have any wits to begin with.
Comment by Ric Locke on 5/14 @ 1:52 pm #
Yes, the dynamics are interesting, in the faux-Chinese curse sort of way.
Obama won and holds the Presidency, but day by day we get more and better evidence that this man has no intimation of a hint of a clue to what he’s supposed to be doing. George W. Bush generously gave him the $2 tour of the White House and the duties of the President at no charge, and I keep waiting for the Leftoids to start shrieking that he got brainwashed. Note that everything he’s done that makes even the remotest sense is pretty much what GWB and his merry men would have wanted. The result is that his poll numbers are dropping, which gives him less and less horsepower to bully the Congress with. He’s always had defections from the right, the Blue Dogs, but now he’s seeing defections from the left — muttered and inconclusive ones, but real.
Pelosi, on the other hand, is bullet-proof. She could strip naked and machine-gun the congregation of the First Church of Christ, Scientist, and still be re-elected — and she knows where enough bodies are buried to remain Speaker for as long as Democrats have a majority. Steny Hoyer can go pound sand.
The CIA should be the CIB, the Central Intelligence Bureaucracy. (To be fair, that’s how it was set up in the beginning.) Intelligence, being In the Know for important stuff, is addictive — I got out almost forty years ago, and I still have withdrawal pains — and the CIA, in covering their bureaucratic butts, have become skilled in keeping their nominal supervisors in the Congress fed with just enough to keep the jones on. Subcomptetents though they are, they also have enough gravestone-rubbings to keep people a lot more careful than San Fran Nan in line, and everybody concerned knows it.
Obama’s Leftoids, which are also Pelosi’s constitutents, want him to Bring the CIA in Line, to generate mea culpas enough to reduce their power and influence. Like any bureaucracy, the CIA sees diminishment of their power and influence as the top of the list of Bad Things, and works hard to avoid it. Bush tried it — we now have the NIA, the CIA’s nominal superior — and got nowhere. The CIA will do nothing until and unless their rice bowl is threatened, but Pelosi and co. are threatening it big time.
We’ll see how it goes. If it weren’t so damned dangerous, it’d be popcorn material. Since we can’t do much about it anyway, maybe popcorn is the best response.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by Silver Whistle on 5/14 @ 1:54 pm #
This whole “Blame the Bush admin for the torture” gig is going to come completely unravelled, if every single Dem who has been pushing it gets outed by the CIA. Surely Dear Leader has got to step in and say that Congress approved it? Heads are going to explode.
Comment by Silver Whistle on 5/14 @ 1:55 pm #
Should have reloaded – sorry, Ric.
Comment by Ric Locke on 5/14 @ 2:02 pm #
Not a problem, Silver Whistle. Your formulation is one of the local optima, of course, but the phase space is complex enough that the little ball can go ’round and ’round for a long time, and where it stops, nobody really knows until it does so.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by geoffb on 5/14 @ 2:04 pm #
First Zappa and now this. You know these references express a certain age, right? Well, we must “Keep on Truckin’”
From one who remembers that “hippie” was a term of derision coined by the media back, well quite a while back, because “freak” wouldn’t sell as well.
Comment by Sdferr on 5/14 @ 2:07 pm #
Odierno has the chops for persuasion of the CinC.
Who else [and so who does Odierno threaten]? Axelrod?
Comment by JD on 5/14 @ 2:10 pm #
One wonders if SanFranNan looked surprised when this was first leaked.
Comment by Silver Whistle on 5/14 @ 2:11 pm #
I’m going to light a stogie and enjoy my Añejo while this plays out on the tube. Got to get my pleasures when I can these days. Cheerio, chaps.
Comment by kelly on 5/14 @ 2:16 pm #
Good one, JD. One wonders how she pulls off “unsurprised.”
Comment by Mr. Pink on 5/14 @ 2:23 pm #
Yeah my mother used to tell me if I made faces it would stick that way I just never believed her. Now I know.
Comment by BJT-FREE! on 5/14 @ 2:30 pm #
I’ve been dying to say this for so long …
WHAT DID THE SPEAKER KNOW AND WHEN DID SHE KNOW IT?
Ooooo, baby, that felt good…
Comment by Mr. Pink on 5/14 @ 2:33 pm #
Well BJT regardless of when and what she knew I can gaurentee you she looked SHOCKED!!!!
Comment by BJT-FREE! on 5/14 @ 2:37 pm #
Yea, Mr. Pink, but so did Nixon.
See what I did there? That’s my little self centered mean spirited approach to she of the sere faced wrinkles. Work in as many Watergate era phrases as they apply to her lyin’ ass.
Yup, that’s be, bathing in schadenfreude.
WHAT DID THE SPEAKER KNOW AND WHEN DID SHE KNOW IT?
I’m calling Woodward right now!
Comment by BJT-FREE! on 5/14 @ 2:38 pm #
Extra points for using Pelosi and “Deep Throat” in the same accusation.
Comment by JD on 5/14 @ 3:35 pm #
Thanks, kelly.
BJ – That was just soooooooooo wrong, on so many levels.
Comment by Sdferr on 5/14 @ 3:46 pm #
McCarthy’s analysis of today’s Pelosi gobblydeegook:
Comment by donald on 5/14 @ 5:31 pm #
Two things, I run a for profit enterprise, and I help more people in a day than the Obama administraton will in 4 years. I helped more of them today as a matter of fact.
As for that aging hippy from San Francisco. All I know if a whole lot of people got one story and you got another. Well, ya gotta who with the whole lotta people deal. She’s a lying cunt. Hope that makes to the blogosphere.
Comment by B Moe on 5/14 @ 5:37 pm #
Hey don, our old drummer is flying down from MN and the Saviors are going to be doing a couple shows the weekend of June 12 and 13. Drop me an email if you are interested.
Comment by donald on 5/14 @ 7:27 pm #
Bmoe, I’m in, I’ got 2 floors of suites at the Holiday Inn. Or sumpin. I’m actually doing a baseball tournament up there that weekend, so I’m in. Where they gonna play?
Comment by B Moe on 5/15 @ 5:32 am #
Friday night an early show at the Caledonia, right behind the 40 Watt where X will be playing later, then Saturday afternoon in the Blind Pig parking lot for their big birthday bash.
Comment by pdbuttons on 5/15 @ 1:20 pm #
eyes wide shut
at least i got to look at nicole kidmans ass