Bill Maher desperately trying to remain relevant
If conservatives don’t want to be seen as bitter people who cling to their guns and religion and anti-immigrant sentiments, they should stop being bitter and clinging to their guns, religion and anti-immigrant sentiments.It’s been a week now, and I still don’t know what those “tea bag” protests were about.
Well, doah.
Al Gore still thinks 300 pounds of arrogance substitutes for brains…
Steve Scalise of Louisiana, questioned the scientific basis of some of Mr. Gore’s claims about climate change.Mr. Gore, clearly exasperated, said, “There are people who still believe that the moon landing was staged on a movie lot in Arizona.â€
… because it ain’t substituting for courage.
UK’s Lord Christopher Monckton, a former science advisor to Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, claimed House Democrats have refused to allow him to appear alongside former Vice President Al Gore at a high profile global warming hearing on Friday April 24, 2009 at 10am in Washington. [...]“The House Democrats don’t want Gore humiliated, so they slammed the door of the Capitol in my face,†Monckton told Climate Depot in an exclusive interview. “They are cowards.†[...]
“The Democrats have a lot to learn about the right of free speech under the US Constitution. Congress Henry Waxman’s (D-CA) refusal to expose Al Gore’s sci-fi comedy-horror testimony to proper, independent scrutiny by the House minority reeks of naked fear,†Monckton said from the airport Thursday evening.
Nothing there about Monckton claiming the moonlanding never happened.
Teh Janet hasn’t learned yet to take responsibility
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano met with the American Legion on Friday to apologize for a right-wing extremism report written by her agency, and the veterans group walked away from the meeting mollified.Napolitano blamed one of her agency’s analysts for prematurely sending out the intelligence assessment to law enforcement.
“Don’t blame me! It was my minions!”
Gavin Newsom wants you to know he’s running for CA governor
San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, who wants to be governor, took some flak Thursday from the very group he’s famous for supporting. Gay marriage advocates can’t believe he actually defended Miss California when she condemned (sic) same-sex marriage.
Newsom’s a politician from San Francisco. Need we know more?
UPDATE from the indomitable Michael Ramirez:
Comment by MikeD on 4/24 @ 7:25 pm #
Wow, Darleen, have you considered a career as a comedy writer? Four topics of absolute hilarity in just a couple of paragraphs! You got promise babe!
Comment by Darleen on 4/24 @ 7:32 pm #
Hey, I’m here all weekend… please remember to tip your waiter.
Comment by serr8d on 4/24 @ 7:54 pm #
My g00gle reader says that there was a Collins post immediately before this one. Reader must be drinking some of the same stuff I am..Northwestern Mutual on Ice?
As for Gavin Newsome, he’s just hoping for a boost from Carrie’s coattails. Carrie Prejean is the real hero AFAIC. Hopefully she’ll run for something. Or at least get on Twitter, and blow Meghan out of the water.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 4/24 @ 8:14 pm #
I had a chance to disembowel that asshole one night. I didn’t take it. I question that decision a lot. He tries to portray himself as a libertarian but nothing (truly) about him says libertarian. He’s limp wristed spineless prog and he doesn’t know it.
Comment by pdbuttons on 4/24 @ 8:15 pm #
london bridge is falling down…
falling down
in Arizona…
the price to see
london bridge is
falling down
falling down
Arizona Tour Bus stops;
Sedona National Park restroom [coast 2 coast!]
Al Gore screen test [rejected] for Tremors [check]
head north/ to Alaska/ head north
u get to see Bryce/Zion/Yosemite!
hurry/ the planet has a fever!
flagstaff north?
route 15?
Comment by rrpjr on 4/24 @ 8:18 pm #
A ship of fools that just keeps sailing along with all of us stuck in the hold bracing for the certain shoals.
Comment by Spiny Norman on 4/24 @ 8:37 pm #
All I can say is that the 2010 congressional midterms can’t come soon enough. The Democraps know they’re going to get thrashed on election day, so they’re trying to ram all this garbage through before the voters can say anything about it.
They’ve learned from Clinton’s mistakes, haven’t they?
Comment by Spiny Norman on 4/24 @ 8:38 pm #
Sorry, that comment was meant for the previous post, but oh well…
Comment by Archivald on 4/24 @ 8:45 pm #
“The Democrats have a lot to learn about the right of free speech under the US Constitution.”
This is a U.K. citizen saying this. Not a U.S. “Constitutional Scholar” like our brave Dear Leader. A non-U.S.-citizen lecturing American Congressmen (most of whom are lawyers) on the words and meaning of the United States Constitution.
And he’s 100% right!
How sad is that?
Comment by Archivald on 4/24 @ 8:47 pm #
Also,
If Maher doesn’t want to continue to be perceived as a pedophile, he should probably stop raping children.
Comment by router on 4/24 @ 8:52 pm #
the proggs are pushing the same thing
?
Comment by pdbuttons on 4/24 @ 8:58 pm #
USA USA!
{grip n grin]
i bee leave
marriage should be ‘tween
a man[john wayne]
and a woman [marisa tomei]
nudge nudge/wink wink
u know what i mean
now that we all
agree dems have power
i’d lick to blow-u-ivate
my wedding gown would not be complete..
without a zipper or three
go ahead..get close to me..
my crowns just your frown
turned upside down
Comment by serr8d on 4/24 @ 8:59 pm #
Charles Johnson is an egomaniacal has-been. I think it’s something must be in the Southern California waters.
The problem with Crazy Islam is that the religion hasn’t reformed. Until it does, we will have recurring problems with the tiny fractional micro-percentage of the Islamicists who are also jihadists. So small, that we shouldn’t worry about the majority of ‘em, AFAIC. Eventually they will have to reform. Or Israel will nuke Mecca, take your choice.
Comment by ccs on 4/24 @ 9:06 pm #
Some quotes from the first Earth Day (1970);
“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.â€
Kenneth Watt, Ecologist
“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.â€
Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist
“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.â€
Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist
(Where have I seen this name before?)
more
Comment by Spiny Norman on 4/24 @ 9:09 pm #
That that fraud Ehrlich is still held in high esteem by the enviro-left says a lot more about them than it does about Ehrlich.
Comment by pdbuttons on 4/24 @ 9:11 pm #
Al [allie]
soylent on the Tavern
Green
Comment by thor on 4/24 @ 9:16 pm #
Thanks for the Bill Maher link, Duuh-Dar.
That there, hicks, is what they call a money shot.
Comment by pdbuttons on 4/24 @ 9:21 pm #
chilly willy redemption tour…
got cary grant tux -i -fied
heel/toe..heel/toe strut
i’m [cracks nut] humble..
just wanna wet my beak…
it’s not a free world
it’s sea world
[penguin house smells like torture]
Comment by Conservative Spankee on 4/24 @ 9:24 pm #
#17 from a guy who would indeed, know all about being on the receiving end of a “Money Shot”.
Comment by geoffb on 4/24 @ 9:27 pm #
Now you have to understand, it’s not about being right or wrong in your predictions. It’s something from the heart.
Imagine the feeling. The wonder of the entire world coming together. Joining hands. Joining the struggle. United as one. One organism, one mind, one body. All acting as one. And on the majestic birthday of the incomparable, inestimable, Vladimir…
Nabokov
Comment by pdbuttons on 4/24 @ 9:29 pm #
six years missy/ i [cough] kept ya [hack]
on the path…
thank God that [fart] new sheriff helped [splat]
couldna/wouldna/wanted to
these last..[has it been that long?]\
two years have been-ha- don’t be looking glass times
but
burp
thank god we’ve met the 4 foot ten rule…
cuz we all on the rollercoaster now!
let’s hold hands…
not
pshyche!
Comment by serr8d on 4/24 @ 9:31 pm #
There he is with the ‘hicks’ meme again. I’m thinking hicks have knocked every teef he has out of his head at one point or another, and he’s mortally afraid to leave his bunker-basement, fearful of having to turn those dental reconstruction bills over to Dad for payment again..
Comment by Darleen on 4/24 @ 9:43 pm #
serr8d
Walthor is scared. He needs the new Obama Nanny state … mommy and daddy’s money won’t last forever.
and heaven forfend any
self-sufficient, independent adultshicks escape Obama’s All Knowing ministrations.Comment by thor on 4/24 @ 9:43 pm #
I reserve special power in my Tennessee tooth-knocker left hook for green tooth’d hornswoggle hicks.
Flying hick tooth shards and their blood spray is what I’d like to get filmed on a frame-by-frame slo-mo.
Wanna be a star, turd-cutter?
Comment by serr8d on 4/24 @ 9:58 pm #
I’d open-hand slap you until your pussy bleeds, thor. Come see me, anytime.
Comment by thor on 4/24 @ 10:00 pm #
Yeah, Darleen is scared shitless. If Obama squeezes the fraud out of health care system then Darleen’s daughter may have to cut off Duuh-Dar’s bread and water rations. God forbid if your daughter needs that extra space in her basement to store some broken furniture, Duuh-Dar. It’d be the suurban curb for a body pillow or the, well, sweltering, pustulating Lighthouse for the Homeless shelter downtown.
Scary.
You lack creativity in your jabber, Duuh-Dar.
We’re enjoying tisanes and Russian chi. We’re eclectic while prejudiced, so toodles and gilded poodles and night to all, hicks.
Comment by LTC John on 4/24 @ 10:05 pm #
Why do we get trolls who have to type so tough…and yet they are afraid to even be known by their own name…(well, beyond “astrobeefcake”)?
If you have to talk about how tough and mean you are…
I guess it is a coping mechanism (?)
Comment by Dash Rendar on 4/24 @ 10:09 pm #
I don’t think the O drones have yet come to terms with the enormity of the budget, cf. thor. They keep deflecting to the periphery, cf. Garofalo, Mahr. Its only been 100 days and we have an expiration date for the prosperity of the nation. Higher taxes are inevitable, mathematiclly speaking, but at that point the productive bits of the economy will just slowly dissolve away with no monies left to fund all of Baracky’s little sleezball socialism. Then we get to say, see, you rotten socialist Chicago street trash-loving idiots. Then they say NO, it was Bush’s fault and especially your fault. Key point is it gets worse.
Comment by Christopher Taylor on 4/24 @ 10:12 pm #
It’s been a week now, and I still don’t know what those “tea bag†protests were about.
I believe you.
Comment by The Monster on 4/24 @ 10:17 pm #
Yeah, because that’s all he is: black. He has no other distinguishing characteristics at all. The only possible reason anyone could oppose his policies is because he’s black. Why, when Carter or Clinton pursued similar policies, (weakening the military and foreign policy, trying to socialize health care) we thought they were not only hunky, but downright dory as well.
It has become a cliché that the modern definition of “racist” is “winning an argument against a leftist”. That it’s a cliché makes it no less true.
Comment by Dash Rendar on 4/24 @ 10:23 pm #
“It has become a cliché that the modern definition of “racist†is “winning an argument against a leftistâ€.”
Fascism was the same way until that Goldberg guy wrote that book.
Comment by pdbuttons on 4/24 @ 10:23 pm #
my mateys be strong..
aye/ thy eat of tea of earl
[not..uncle earle-who-kept eggs in his pockets]
they grey earl
aye’…
u chechens are-aye-
anyway..
u chex cereal…
no=
Earl Grey of Tea
ur hard day night
is
misery
i don’t want to spoil the party so i’ll go…
Comment by serr8d on 4/24 @ 10:30 pm #
Paul McCartney’s cup of tea…
Comment by Vermont Neighbor on 4/24 @ 10:43 pm #
Maher doesn’t know what April 15th was about? The LAT piece was apparently ghost written by Al Sharpton while Bill was off bugging a new prostitute/Madonna to accept his ever-revolving girlfriend opening.
If he can leave the black girls alone, stay out of The Smoking Gun and still show up on time for a taping, then I know he’s had an exemplary day. I guess it’s okay he doesn’t know a damn thing about anti-collectivists.
Comment by pdbuttons on 4/24 @ 11:01 pm #
who knew paul mc artey fartey rocks?
seer8d did…
oh yeah..
he did!
my brain hurts s8d…
thank u
Comment by geoffb on 4/24 @ 11:02 pm #
May be by July 4th he will have figured it out.
Comment by pdbuttons on 4/24 @ 11:14 pm #
what do u tip..
a nice fry girl…
when ur car ran outta gas..
whren u weren’t techincaly thru..
left club foot gas
son
ur momma left gas
gas/gas/gas
with a greasy wrapper..
Comment by pdbuttons on 4/24 @ 11:20 pm #
i hate yuppie baseball
frauds…
wot a scam..
ur honor…
Comment by SBP on 4/24 @ 11:22 pm #
Yeah, because that’s all he is: black.
Yep, we’d all be horrified at the prospect of President Thomas Sowell, right?
Comment by pdbuttons on 4/24 @ 11:25 pm #
i just want to say bobby
u knw..
then i’ll leave..
Comment by happyfeet on 4/24 @ 11:25 pm #
the work you are doing tonight mr. buttons, it is very good work. Especially about the ginger-kids. I liked that a lot.
Comment by serr8d on 4/24 @ 11:26 pm #
Because the dirty socialisty in-power party has tricked us, my preciousss! It’s tricked us into turning over our successful nation to a schememey swarmarmy of ACORNholers who are following the ruleses of the Alinsky and they have the hatreds of the Dohrn and her hubby, and we’re off the tracks and there’s no one to call !
Comment by happyfeet on 4/24 @ 11:33 pm #
we can’t even call falco cause of he’s dead
Comment by Joe on 4/24 @ 11:39 pm #
I see Inherit the Wind is on PBS tonight. I love that movie (even if Clarence Darrow was hardly the hero they make him out to be in real life), but the thought that Charles Johnson is off somewhere spanking to it rather ruins it for me.
Comment by Joe on 4/24 @ 11:39 pm #
The Pelosi cartoon is awesome though.
Comment by geoffb on 4/24 @ 11:46 pm #
Test
Comment by serr8d on 4/24 @ 11:55 pm #
Some recent history revisited..I remember this (well, the long-lost 45 is all I actually remember) song well. It was banned in Britain, in 1972.
I’d wondered if that would ever show up on YouTube.
Comment by alppuccino on 4/25 @ 12:03 am #
Gore says the government ought to guarantee displaced coal miners new jobs. Oddly enough, Burger King is coming out with the new Double Black Lung Burger.
I’d read a book about Al Gore testifying in front of the entire congress and then a terrorist steals Al’s private jet and flies it into the Capitol and right up Waxman’s nose and then explodes and two huge flames shoot out and cut every one down like kindling.
Comment by Adriane on 4/25 @ 12:15 am #
I could open a debate with RESOLVED: Obama published the Torture Memos and Photos just to get Nancy Pelosi ensnared in a scandal…
Comment by psycho... on 4/25 @ 12:48 am #
I’m not down with the NLP creeps, but the narrative-concluding chunk of that AP story about Napolitano is a great example of how — and that — their “shrink the frame” move works:
Isolated from the mess around it, you can really see the shape of that, eh? It’s like it was written (by an incoherent moron) under hypnotic suggestion. Because it was.
Comment by pdbuttons on 4/25 @ 1:06 am #
i was fudgin’ with my
chia velcro
feelin fat/looking at my spats
and thinkin’….
if only i had bought[cough] micro-soft…
then[hack..stumble stumble]
and split it? or something[ha!]
of course/ split the profits/ i hire law guys/
excuase me..
if anyone goes back in time…
look me up..[partner]
the word is….?
tippy-toe?
Comment by datadave on 4/25 @ 3:09 am #
come on WhackJobs, you know that guy who killed 3 cops in PA was a Right Wing extremist. Timothy McVie was a right wing extremist, The Islamic Right Wing terrorists who flew planes into the Trade Center and Pentagon were certainly wing nuts.
But of course, gun nuts made a pretty penny for me on the gun stocks (SWHC and RGR),
thank you very much.
Janet has nothing to apologize for.
Hey, it’s a beautiful country, will you buy my country club/golf course from me, please?
Comment by Roland THTG on 4/25 @ 6:21 am #
Happy “Were All Broke Now Day!
Teh ONE! has spent it all gone.
ARE YOU NOT STIMULATED?
Comment by JD on 4/25 @ 6:42 am #
Notice how a post titled Fools brings datadave out from hiding? Coincidence? Or dog whistle?
Comment by Dusty on 4/25 @ 7:16 am #
Mr. Gore, clearly exasperated, said, “There are people who still believe that the moon landing was staged on a movie lot in Arizona.â€
There are people who still believe Gore invented the Internet, too.
Comment by The Monster on 4/25 @ 7:18 am #
Ah, but Sowell isn’t really black, or at least not “authentic”. Remember how Powell wasn’t black, back when he was a RethugliKKKan militaristic hardliner? He didn’t really get to be black until he endorsed The Won.
Comment by Silver Whistle on 4/25 @ 7:19 am #
Timothy McVie? Wasn’t he in Fleetwood Mac?
Comment by SBP on 4/25 @ 7:23 am #
you know that guy who killed 3 cops in PA was a Right Wing extremist.
The guys who killed 60 million people in the Soviet Union were left-wing extremists. So were the guys who killed 20 million people in Germany, the guys who killed 76 million people in China, the guys who killed 2 million people in Cambodia, the guys who killed 1.6 million people in Vietnam, and the guys who killed another 1.6 million people in North Korea (that last one is still going up — Lil Kim has almost passed Ho Chi Minh and is angling to knock off Pol Pot before he kicks it himself).
But let’s just pretend those guys never existed, right, Dickless Dork?
You’re a fucking moron.
Comment by J. "Trashman" Peden on 4/25 @ 7:24 am #
It’s been a week now, and I still don’t know what those “tea bag†protests were about.
Related, an in depth conversation with Bill Maher’s brighter side: last Fall, completely out of the blue, this Narcissist/Progressive guy I know suddenly up-and-stated to me that ~”The reason why the pro-life movement is only recently gaining more strength is that the Republicans are finally recovering from their humiliation in Vietnam.” [I suppose that would also "explain" the Tea Parties.]
Huh? Noting the bizarre, emotional nature of this outburst, I tried to get some clarity by merely restating a fact involved, asking, “So you mean they are humiliated because we withdrew from Vietnam?” I didn’t put any actual emphasis on the “we”.
He became more upset and replied emphatically, “No, no, no”, turned sideways, bowed his head, and began walking off submissively, not saying anything more.
Bejus! And he also thinks he’s the smartest person in Oregon.
Comment by SBP on 4/25 @ 7:26 am #
I thought he was the guy who invented “digestive biscuits”, SW.
Comment by SBP on 4/25 @ 7:28 am #
Republicans are finally recovering from their humiliation in Vietnam
Teh iggorance — it burns.
Yeah, JFK and LBJ were two of our better-known Republican presidents.
Comment by Silver Whistle on 4/25 @ 7:33 am #
Spies, kerrching! I do hope datalessdave is in a soft, padded room without sharp objects to hand. He doesn’t sound well.
Comment by SBP on 4/25 @ 7:47 am #
I’m pretty sure that Questions Would Be Asked nowadays if you tried to market a chocolate-covered cookie by claiming that it had health benefits.
Comment by Silver Whistle on 4/25 @ 7:51 am #
In the good old days, there was the “Guinness Is Good For You” ad campaign. I believed them, and now look at me.
Comment by SBP on 4/25 @ 7:55 am #
Then there’s the British Lard Marketing Board, and, on this side of the pond, the claim that doctors prefer Camel cigarettes, or maybe Luckies.
Comment by SBP on 4/25 @ 7:56 am #
Messed up the Camels link.
Comment by SBP on 4/25 @ 7:59 am #
Ah, but Sowell isn’t really black, or at least not “authenticâ€.
Yep. Born in a black community so isolated that as a small child he didn’t believe that people could have blond hair, raised by a single mother, forced to drop out of high school because his family was poor…
What the hell would he know about the Authentic Black Experience?
He didn’t even choose African American Studies for his PhD!
Comment by Silver Whistle on 4/25 @ 8:01 am #
I’m not a doctor, but I play one on TV, and I used to smoke Camel bullets.
Comment by Darleen on 4/25 @ 8:08 am #
SBP
It’s Sowell’s limbic brain.
Comment by SBP on 4/25 @ 8:10 am #
I suspect that Sowell’s limbic brain is about five times the size of Garafalo’s entire brain.
Comment by Sdferr on 4/25 @ 8:17 am #
Yeah, right. In fact,that right there clearly demonstrates Napolitano still doesn’t understand how things work in bureaucratic Washington. Putz.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 4/25 @ 8:29 am #
Comment by Conservative Spankee on 4/24 @ 9:24 pm #
Please ignore the illiterate microcephelic.
Thank you.
Comment by steveaz on 4/25 @ 9:45 am #
Guys,
One beef I have is: Obama is NOT black.
I’ve traveled extensively in Indonesia and Arabia, and I’ve shared donkey carts and airline seats with Africans from many regions (especially E. Africa), so I know what I’m talking about here.
Here’s Obama’s real racial inheritances in order of their phenotypic prevalence:
1. the lay of O’s jaw, brow and mouth are hybrid Arab/Java-an, mainland Indonesian (picture a skinny Suharto without the fez).
2. The location of his eyes and the fall of his nose along with his endomorphic gangliness tell me there is a good chunk of Peninsula Arab in there – possibly derived from Kenyan or Indonesian crosses occurring many generations prior (both populations suffered repeated Arab incursions over history).
3. The pallor of Obama’s skin (a kind of white-chocolate/mocha) suggests a European fish wiggled into the gene-pool at some time. I’m guessing it leapt out of a canal in Slough sometime during the post-colonial period.
3. Coming in last is Obama’s Kenyan Luo inheritance. It barely shows (masked perhaps by historic Arab/Luo cross-breeding). Hints of it are to be found in his nostril flare and his broad forehead.
If anything, Obama’s African creds figure last in the mix. And the genetic gifts of East Africa’s historic enslavers, the Arabs, rank higher in his physical “race profile” than do both his African and Anglo genes. IOW, if Obama is “Black,” then this German/Scott hybrid is “Yellow!”
Americans don’t travel enough, which leaves us prone to the sort of loose media (mis)classification that the Progs use to gin-up racial tensions in America. Me thinks we need to get out more. And that the media ought to stop lying to us for dollars.
Comment by steveaz on 4/25 @ 9:48 am #
Oops! #3 should be #4…
Thanks for reading!
-Steve
Comment by thor on 4/25 @ 9:52 am #
FTFY!
Comment by thor on 4/25 @ 10:05 am #
So what’s your coping mechanism, a desk? Our Lady of Legal Papers is a very powerful man, has him a desk! Uses a letter-opener to sword fight the multiplying stacks of papers that dare invade his desk. The S.S. John Desk is no Bismark, it will not take one to the rudder and sink like a paper weight! Overtime pay will avenge his paper invasion!
Astro! Beefcake! Astro! Beefcake! You likey that Southpark humor, eh. I’ve got lots more where that came from.
Comment by SBP on 4/25 @ 10:16 am #
You know, thor, as an independently wealthy International Man of Mystery/Ultimate Fighter Champion, I figured you’d have showed up in Chicago to slap the taste out of the mouth of some of those inbred hickbillies.
I mean, it’s not like you’re a brokedick who has a (shudder) job, or has to worry about paying bills and spending money on hotels, right?
Somehow, though, you chose to remain behind the safety of your keyboard, just as you always do.
Please do let me know ahead of time if you ever plan on showing up for a face-to-face gathering, ‘cuz I’d really like to meet you in person.
A fuckin’ pussboi is what you are, and a fuckin’ pussboi you shall remain.
Comment by serr8d on 4/25 @ 10:23 am #
The only factor Obama’s blackness plays in this entire meta-destructive-narrative is that he delved into and absorbed the anger and hate of the subset of blacks who can’t get past our unfortunate shared history. From Karl’s most excellent post..
Yes, Obama did sit, listen, and learn from many disaffected sources and he does still desire to pay back, to CHANGE the Constitution, and that desire, however well-concealed (or ignored by the frothers he’s collected) is evident in his policies.
His thoughts and deeds, the color of his observable behavior, matters; his skin color, who could care?
Comment by SporkLift Driver on 4/25 @ 10:33 am #
Lol Gore. Seriously is he unaware of how many of his followers are “moon landing hoax” believers? Speaking of Gore and moon landings. Jerry Pournelle has had some great things to say about what people at NASA (the putting things in space part not the manufacturing propaganda part) thought about Al.
George Bush is our guy? Nope.
Senate: Republican 2003-2006 but John McCain and Arlen Specter? Nope. House: Democrat 2007-present. Nope.
2000-2006 5 activists vs 3 originalists and one guy that votes activist more often than not. 2007-present 4 activists vs 4 originalists and the guy that tends to vote activist. Nope. Bitch was never mine and I never claimed she was.
Comment by Rusty on 4/25 @ 10:41 am #
#22
he’s desperately trying to live down his “Hick” past. So he moves from Texas-Well. At least you have Dallas- to Florida, which consists of old jews and rednecks. The least he could do is expound his mind nubing scatology from Manhatten, Chicago, or, my favorite,LA.
Comment by Clouseau on 4/25 @ 11:04 am #
Some quotes [supporting global cooling] from the first Earth Day (1970)….
And an interesting fact from the conservative-libertarian skeptic and professionally competent scientist Steven Dutch:
“Some of the leading climate change skeptics were high profile advocates of the notion of global cooling in the 1970s….”
Plus:
“In a long paragraph quoting press sources from the 1970s, [George F.] Will suggested that widespread scientific agreement existed at the time that the world faced potentially catastrophic cooling. Today, most climate scientists and climate journalists consider this a timeworn myth. Just last year, the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society published a peer-reviewed study examining media coverage at the time and the contemporary scientific literature. While some media accounts did hype a cooling scare, others suggested more reasons to be concerned about warming. As for the published science? Reviewing studies between 1965 and 1979, the authors found that ‘emphasis on greenhouse warming dominated the scientific literature even then.’”
Nothing there about Monckton claiming the moonlanding never happened.
He doesn’t need to: He’s gotten just about everything else wrong. Observe:
“Arthur Smith, long-time member at the APS Forum, has identified 125 errors, irrelevancies, and contradictions in [Monckton's July 2008 APS] article.”
Yeah, but at least he never claimed that the moon landing (#126) never happened….
“Monckton played a key role in a legal challenge heard in the High Court of Justice in October 2007 in a bid to prevent An Inconvenient Truth from being shown in English schools. In an interview with the conservative American talk radio host Glenn Beck, Monckton stated that he had prompted an unnamed friend to fund the case ‘to fight back against this tide of unscientific freedom-destroying nonsense’ and had played a direct role in the litigation against the British government.”
Hey, here’s an idea for global-warming skeptics: How about supporting the showing of AIT in science classes, as an example of what good science isn’t? You know, just like any open-minded teacher would welcome having Intelligent Design taught in the same classes, to clarify what a scientific theory isn’t. What’s all this anti-intellectual kerfuffle about court cases to prevent our children from being exposed to controversial ideas, when showing that film could only enhance the students’ education? Couldn’t it?
On the off-chance that anyone here is actually interested in approaching the AGW issue with rationality and scientific literacy, Steven Dutch has written a fine introductory article: The Science and Pseudoscience of Global Warming. Also consider this, from among his other half-dozen pieces (scroll down, to near the bottom of the page) on the subject:
“There are lots of legitimate and serious questions about climate change that all researchers in the field readily admit. What convinces me of the reality of climate change, despite the uncertainties, is that the comments put out by climate change denialists are absolute, unmitigated garbage. We find distortion and misuse of credentials, publication of counterfeit papers, and scientific illiteracy of all sorts. This junk is on a par with the creationism of Michael Behe and Darwin’s Black Box….
Likewise, the libertarian skeptics Penn and Teller have researched the AGW issue competently, and come to the conclusion that they just don’t know whether AGW is real. (Teller is actually a fellow of the Cato Institute.) That’s the most that any scientifically literate and competent person can reasonably say against AGW. (For a fine example of the breathtaking scientific illiteracy which fuels so much of confident global-warming denial, see here … from a site by a woman who’s a big fan of Protein Wisdom, no less, and has actually been quoted in the blurbs, here.)
You may also wish to check out the links in the Skepdic’s Dictionary entry on Climate Skeptics.
Comment by SBP on 4/25 @ 11:07 am #
That’s the most that any scientifically literate and competent person can reasonably say against AGW.
You are a liar. A clumsy one.
Sorry.
Comment by SBP on 4/25 @ 11:12 am #
I don’t think any of the regulars here need this, but if anyone happens to stop by, plenty of evidence for Clouseau’s mendacity can be found by going here and working your way back through the archives. Judge for yourself whether all the cited research was performed by people who are are “scientifically illiterate”.
Comment by Lovernios on 4/25 @ 11:15 am #
Leftists in 1970: The world has always been getting colder.
Leftists in 2009: The world has always been getting warmer.
Comment by SBP on 4/25 @ 11:27 am #
Steven Dutch is a structural geologist, which has absolutely nothing to do with climate change. Clouseau’s claim that he is “professionally competent” in this field is, quite simply, another lie.
Clouseau claims to have “studied” “electrical engineering and physics”, but does not have a degree in either field.
Yo, Clouseau: advanced degrees are a dime a dozen on this site. They don’t impress us a bit. Even if you had one. Which you don’t.
Comment by Sdferr on 4/25 @ 11:35 am #
But hey, isn’t Skepdic an amusing pun SBP? I mean, soooo very clever.
Comment by Silver Whistle on 4/25 @ 11:45 am #
Clouseau seems to conflate climate change with AGW. This “professionally competent scientist” thinks that is not a very good start.
I know of no earth scientist that doesn’t acknowledge that climate changes. Chris Monckton also does not dispute this. There are several issues that scientists do dispute:
Are we in a period of climate change now?
Does CO2 have anything to do with it?
Does anthropogenic CO2 have anything to do with it?
I am personally very skeptical that CO2 causes a rise in temperature. From the high resolution data I have seen, CO2 elevations occur some centuries after temperature rise. An intellectually honest discussion can be had around these points.
Comment by Darleen on 4/25 @ 12:01 pm #
Clouseau
So the “best” that skeptics can say is it is unclear that AGW is unreal?
Sorry, it is up to the Goreacle and ilk to prove AGW is real.
But it isn’t really about the science now, is it? It really never has been, even back in the 1970’s. It’s about using science as an excuse for a Command and Control economy and political statism. It’s about a self-selected group of people who Just Know Better for the rest of us and, by gum, they will force us to live as they dictate — from the color of the roofs on our homes, to the number and kind of lightbulbs and lamps. From Erlich to Gore to Waxman to Moonbeam Brown to Obama/Ayers/Alinsky, it is about destruction of property rights and therefore, control of the populace.
Don’t try to say they just “care about the Planet!”, because no where in Obama’s “energy” policies is any mention or commitment to nuclear energy. None. Prima facia evidence of the fraud being perpetuated by authoritarian/totalitarian enviromentalism.
I am a conservationist, not an enviromentalist. The difference between being a rational individual who believes in liberty and a misanthropic worshipper of “nature” who lusts after the destruction of civilization.
Comment by Ric Locke on 4/25 @ 12:17 pm #
Unh huh. What you, and the rest of the lying bastards and/or clueless dupes promoting it, refuse to acknowledge is that there are three different questions here:
1. Is climate change real?
2. Is the source of the climate change human activity?
3. Shall we overturn the entire economic and philisophical basis of Western civilization in order to combat it?
Power attracts the power-hungry, who then trim their sails according to the prevailing winds in order to gain power, irrespective of any belief in the underlying issue, and those who (like “Clouseau”) who attack those of us whose answer to #3 is a resounding “No!” as malicious infidels and “denialists” serve only to encourage them. Clearly Al Gore doesn’t believe his own shtick — if he did he would live a more modest lifestyle, instead of having a “carbon footprint” that does in a week what I could barely manage in a lifetime, even driving my 390 CID ‘74 Ford pickup around.
Revealingly, I don’t see you picketing Chinese coal-fired plants. Your “activism” is at best drunk-by-the-lamppost thinking (“th’ lightsh bettah heah”) and at worst naked anti-Americanism. News flash: scraping the entire population of the United States and all its works into the Marianas trench wouldn’t make twenty percent difference, even if AGW was the absolute you claim.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by Ric Locke on 4/25 @ 12:25 pm #
And leaving enough infrastructure in place to support Gore and the rest in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed would result in changes approximating zero.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by Ted Nugent's Soul Patch on 4/25 @ 12:57 pm #
“How about supporting the showing of AIT in science classes, as an example of what good science isn’t? ”
For the same reason you don’t make your students read through “Arming America” as an example of what good historical scholarship isn’t.
Comment by SBP on 4/25 @ 1:06 pm #
Revealingly, I don’t see you picketing Chinese coal-fired plants.
It’s all of a piece with them ignoring the violence, sexism, and brutal oppression of gay people in Islamist countries.
The Chinese use “protestors” as a convenient source of spare organs for the gerontocracy.
The Islamists hack off the heads of “protestors” and upload the videos to YouTube.
Comment by Sdferr on 4/25 @ 1:20 pm #
Wait, SBP, don’t you recall all those youthful leftists marching with John Kerry back in the day demanding that the North Vietnamese torturers of John McCain and many other American POW’s be brought to stand before the bar of justice? Oh, hang on, now that I think of it, I don’t recall it either.
Comment by Dash Rendar on 4/25 @ 1:41 pm #
“Sowell’s limbic brain.”
Heh. The dilettante what skims the first chapter of their intro pysch text even knows how supremely asinine this all is. Recall that the NYT attempted this a while back in an op-ed based on the results of a single fMRI study (n=9, SCIENCE!), claiming that some neuro-structural differences existed between liberal and conservatives. The next day the premise of the study was excoriated by a couple neuroscientists in the same forum, essentially calling it a resuscitation of the long dead phrenology (fMRI’s simply measure the blood flow to areas of the brain in real time, correlation v causation and all that blah blah) .
Comment by Rusty on 4/25 @ 2:00 pm #
#80
This in no way meant to dinigrate those who choose to live in those places who , like, you know , have more brains than a lefty.
Comment by Swen Swenson on 4/25 @ 2:35 pm #
Dammit, Janet!!
So.. It wasn’t the content of the report that was objectionable, it was just the timing? The time wasn’t yet ripe to suggest that our returning veterans are a danger to the country? What, they needed more time to build themselves up to that level of libel? Either that’s the lamest lie I’ve heard lately or, more likely, it’s a little bit of the ugly truth, let slip by an idiot.
Did we really need any more evidence that we’ve got a pack of amateurs running the country?
Comment by ushie on 4/25 @ 3:28 pm #
Bill Maher is a tiny-limp-dicked, nasty undersized freckle-spackled balding creep who slithers up to barely-legal girls and is forced to shake his thick wallet at them to get a blowjob. Which the girls barely notice because his dick is so limp and tiny. It baffles me that this orange/gray-haired twunt who sneers like Billy Idol without the excuse of having any talent at all has a tv show, and apparently people listen to his dipshittery, rather than shutting him in a nail-lined barrel with three rabid badgers and 47 tarantulas and rolling him down a mountain into the sea to die.
I would feel sorry for the rabid badgers and the 47 tarantulas, though.
Comment by ushie on 4/25 @ 3:29 pm #
And Al Gore is a snake oil salesman who has convinced people with money and influence that really, his product will cure herpes AND consumption and will also attract the opposite sex!
Comment by Swen Swenson on 4/25 @ 3:42 pm #
Not sure there’s any dispute there: Ever since the earth congealed into existence the climate has been changing, driven by many independent and dependent mechanisms that proceed on many time scales. The sun heats up, it cools down. The earth’s core heats up and cools down. We get volcanos, meteor strikes, torrential rains, millenial-long droughts — the geological history of the earth is replete with climatic extremes a lot more extreme than anything the global warmistas have imagined in their wildest dreams.
The climate is a dynamic system and it’s hard to imagine it ever becoming static, at least until our sun is a cinder (and that shouldn’t happen for weeks yet!). So yes, we are in a period of climate change now, it’s just not apparent from the perspective of our ephemeral lives. Given sufficiently sensitive instruments and a long enough period of time to take readings, the big surprise would be if no change could be detected.
The important thing to remember, I think, is that there’s a big difference between positing that the climate changes and using scientific instruments and statistical methods to detect the change, and making the leap to determining an over-arching cause of that change and predicting what the climate will be like in 100 years.
You might also bear in mind that everything we know about the factors that drive our climate suggests that those factors are predominantly cyclic. Yet we see our great scientists — like the Goracle — doing linear extrapolations from some short segment of the graph of cyclic events. That’s just science made stupid.
Or politics..
Comment by Jeffersonian on 4/25 @ 3:45 pm #
That’s the most that any scientifically literate and competent person can reasonably say against AGW.
News flash: That’s all any scientifically literate person can say about any hypothesis. You either reject the null hypothesis or you don’t.
Comment by thor on 4/25 @ 8:11 pm #
Comment by SBP on 4/25 @ 8:18 pm #
Whatever you say, pussboi.
Snicker.
Comment by thor on 4/25 @ 8:58 pm #
Snicker!
Professor Empty Pockets, you’re nothing but a loser. You never got off campus. Does your Mommy still pack your lunch? Does your Daddy call to make sure you’re going to class? Do you push a shopping cart of your belingings?
And you have the gall to woof at people who actually pay taxes; you’re deranged.
C’mon, dumbass, keep smacking that Duuuuuuh, you live in your Mommy’s basement and off your Daddy’s money meme. It’s entertaining in a twisted way. You know where I live, fag. Anytime you want to try your luck, bring it – SNICKER! – just beware of the local cops, they sort’a profile, it is an exclusive neighborhood, as you know.
Comment by SBP on 4/25 @ 10:40 pm #
Keep barking like the yappy little castrated chihuahua you are, pussboi.
Comment by blowhard on 4/25 @ 11:01 pm #
I spent a few years reading posts and not the comments. So, what’s the backstory? I’m asking SBP here.
thor, you living off family money?
Comment by thor on 4/25 @ 11:22 pm #
Dumbfuck sPies likes to make up fairy tales. It eases his bitter pangs of remorse. The loser was too stupid to leave college and get a job on Wall Street, like I did. Now the pussy has to ride a bike to babysit pubescent malcontents for the rest of his life. Simple.
Bitter and lurching, that’s our man sPies, shaking his banana at passersby.
Fiiiinachul gEnIUs, a cARRReaRisT chalkboard man, a sun dried grease spot on the road to nowhere. And just a little bitter about it all, as you can see.
Comment by guinsPen on 4/25 @ 11:47 pm #
little thor ech0!
Comment by Silver Whistle on 4/26 @ 9:33 am #
Swen,
That the earth cyclically warms and cools is beyond dispute; there are also periods of relative stasis. What I was attempting to say was, one of the current debates is on our current position in that cycle.
Comment by SBP on 4/26 @ 9:40 am #
See what I mean?
Yappy little castrated chihuahua.
He has no meaningful accomplishments of his own, so his sense of self-worth depends on tearing down the accomplishments of others.
I do what I do by choice. I love it, and wouldn’t change it for the world. I can die tomorrow knowing that I’ve changed the lives of hundreds in a positive way.
When thor dies, the only person who’s even going to give a shit is whichever relative is next in line for his share of the trust fund.
Hint: that person is not exactly going to mourn.
Comment by Squid on 4/26 @ 1:04 pm #
Don’t sell him short, SBP. I’m certain that the online pornography, industrial lubricants, and cough syrup industries will all miss him dearly.
Comment by steveaz on 4/26 @ 2:17 pm #
Hi Ric,
I sure enjoy your essays, but, if you don’t mind…
Your first question, “Is climate change real?” begs my comment. I’ll nit-pick one point respectfully, and only for the self-serving reason of making one of my favorite points: by employing the movement’s terminology “Climate Change” you yield much to the socialists on the “other” side in our nation’s meme-wars.
To clarify, I’d reframe this question as, “Is global warming real?” This is for purely tactical reasons, too. Here’s why:
The intended thought-engineering technique, as I divine it from the propaganda’s steady evolution is…
1. project authority consensus assertions that the globe is warming catastrophically due to human activity.
2. then (and founded on #1’s tenderizing effects) project assertions that the globe’s climate is changing catastrophically due to human activity.
Now, contemplate that this shift away from “warming” was forced on the movement by new data and you’ll realize what the propagandists know, that the the “warming debate” is the movement’s achilles heel. As glacier surface areas fluctuated and ocean temperatures data came in over the last five years, the alarmists became aware that their “warming” rhetoric would eventually be refuted by Earth’s natural climatic oscillations. So, out of necessity, they engineered and up-loaded a “patch” that allows for future warming/cooling fluctuations, and Global Climate Change (GCC) is that patch.
The new framework that seeks to reorganize the AGW movement around the vague, less-measurable, climate “change” hits a wall if folks are reminded to ponder the meme’s first assumed-yet-uncertain peg “warming.” Hence the utility of resurrecting the “warming-debate” to counter the “Change” movement. If the “Climate-Change’s” believers were horses, a return to the warming question pulls them up short by their old “warming” halter (which, conveniently for us, most stubbornly continue to proudly wear). The refocus on “warming,”, deliberately employed, could prevent the movement from stealthily “movin’-on” to a framework in accord with the inevitable cooling data to come by retreating to the more defensible memetic ground that is climate “Change.” The tactic denies the movement this escape.
The subject demographic of Cap-and-Trade’s proxy campaign (ie. us) is expected to succumb facilely to being redirected to abhorring “change.” So, it serves us, I think, to avoid employing this campaign’s presumptive lexicons.
Thanks for the opportunity to toss my 2 cents in… You’re a sharp guy, Ric, so I’m sorry if I had to step on your toe to do it. :-)
Comment by MarkD on 4/27 @ 12:45 pm #
Global warming better be real, because it’s going to get expensive to heat this place if it is not.