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April 23, 2009
“Liberal Student Infiltrates Liberty University to Write Exposé and Discovers Intolerance…From the Left”
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Comment by rickinstl on 4/23 @ 11:01 am #
This guy has just let himself and his family in for a world of slime.
Every a-hole on both coasts will spend the next 2 weeks concocting wild rumors and making up “facts” about him in order not to have to confront his points.
How many have they done this to in the last year?
Comment by Spiny Norman on 4/23 @ 11:03 am #
Intolerant ravings from the Paint Huffers. No surprise there.
Comment by lee on 4/23 @ 11:16 am #
Hummm, just came across this this morning, Gnostic Fascism.
Comment by Carin on 4/23 @ 11:16 am #
Well, the boy’s a traitor. How would you expect them to react?
It’s like the opposite treatment of when a conservative turns liberal. Or, when a non-conservative pretends she’s conservative and cozies up to the left. See Meghan McCain.
Comment by Russ. Just Russ. on 4/23 @ 11:17 am #
How dare he not stick to THE NARRATIVE!
Comment by LTC John on 4/23 @ 11:23 am #
Carin,
I think Jeff knows exactly how this fellow feels. He turned to the DARK SIDE, after being part of the annointed and everything! How could you let principles and love of Liberty get in the way, Jeff?
Comment by Jeffersonian on 4/23 @ 11:26 am #
There goes that fellowship at MoveOn.org.
Comment by Carin on 4/23 @ 11:28 am #
I find what the fellow did infinitely interesting. Most liberals, sadly won’t even venture to read serious “conservative” journals to discover what actual conservatives are arguing.
It’s like all those “reviewers” for Jonah’s book last year. Too afraid to read it, most of ‘em were, I’m sure.
Comment by BJT-FREE! on 4/23 @ 11:31 am #
All your faiths are belong to us!
BWAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHA!
WE’LL GET YOU … WE’LL GET YOU ALL, MY PRETTIES!
After all of the Xtian bashing I’ve had to read lo these many years that felt really, really good.
CHRISTIANS ARE PEOPLES TWO!
Comment by Darleen on 4/23 @ 11:32 am #
It would be amusing if it were not so appalling to consider what the thought process was of the author before he went underground.
It is as if going to LU was akin to going into the Amazon rain forest to study some exotic prehistoric tribe (though, being “exotic” and “brown” would garner Leftist kudos ) but it is chilling that he really thought he had to go to some exotic place to be “exposed” to Christians (and wow finding out they are regular folk!). The vast majority of Americans identify as Christian and they aren’t all ghettoized in LU in VA.
I guess leftist persistence in demonizing Christians has had the cultural effect of individual Christians self-censoring their speech and passing as secularists in order “not to offend”.
Comment by Joe on 4/23 @ 11:35 am #
What is the old phrase…bringing coal to Newcastle or something along those lines. That is like discovering Perez Hilton is a dirty…well you know what.
Comment by Abe Froman on 4/23 @ 11:35 am #
Carin I don’t really think it’s the same thing. The right generally castigates apostates for feeding the opposition’s narrative while claiming to still be on the right – or being used to that effect by the left. Who among us cares what Charles Johnson, for instance, has to say about conservatives if he simply mans up and admits he’s a lefty?
All this kid did was puncture the left’s narrative. He hasn’t attacked “his own” that I know of.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 4/23 @ 11:36 am #
I have a feeling this guy will soon be writing reguarly at http://www.fmylife.com
Comment by BJT-FREE! on 4/23 @ 11:49 am #
Darleen, believe me, I appreciate the pungency of that attitude. There are times when I talk about my beliefs and catch someone looking at me like I just became a full fledged adult member of a Zulu tribe. I can’t even imagine what dicentra goes through.
Nothing made that clearer than the raving cartoons that a certain “mandy” raised on a regular basis. Let’s not forget our own Xtian pixelating fantasist who saw end timers and ID fanatics in everyone who disagreed with her fevered and narrowly defined exegesis of human potential, cultural evolution, ESC and mental deficiencies.
Our young feller would be even more shocked if he attended my conservative Presbyterian Church because the normalcy would be stunning, I think.
Comment by Joe on 4/23 @ 11:49 am #
Abe Froman, you are absolutely correct. I believe in science. I believe the world and the universe are billions of year old. I believe in evolution. I even ride my bike when the weather is nice, and dare I say it, listen to jazz occasinally.
Hell that would make me a Lizoid too if that was the extent of the analysis.
Charles Johnson’s problem is he is a nut job and a liar (and a coward). Hell, be of the left and do the Andrew Sullivan shift. The left will love you for it for a week or so, but they will never ever trust you and you will forever wander in the wilderness. You are correct, if he admitted that people on the right really would not be offended by anything he said.
He would just be ignored and that he cannot take.
Comment by The Monster on 4/23 @ 11:49 am #
It is as if going to LU was akin to going into the Amazon rain forest to study some exotic prehistoric tribe
Or some other species…
<Crocodile Hunter Voice>
This is a magnificent specimen of Homo Phobius Redneckus. Crikey, just look at the Sunday Go To Meeting Suit on this one! You don’t usually see one of these anywhere near a university!
</Crocodile Hunter Voice>
Comment by Joe on 4/23 @ 11:50 am #
I even vaccinate my kids. Hell, I have taken vaccines. Crazy.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 4/23 @ 11:53 am #
Not on topic, but must be stated:
I apparently have nearly driven one of our testers to tears by rejecting her interpretation of our requirements. I did not do so rudely. I did not do so loudly.
Good Lord, why the hell can’t I work with grown-ups?!
Comment by happyfeet on 4/23 @ 11:54 am #
Oh hey don’t I know you from masturbation group back at Liberty? Yeah I thought that was you. I was class of 02 I think you were a year ahead of me. So… how’s it going?
Comment by BJT-FREE! on 4/23 @ 11:55 am #
Ha, Monster, I am so stealing that for my next bible study!
Comment by BJT-FREE! on 4/23 @ 11:56 am #
HF: Oh, it’s going … fine …
Comment by Mr. Pink on 4/23 @ 12:04 pm #
Rob I get that at my work too. I do not know what it is with people that can’t take criticism without thinking you are personally insulting them. In a proffessional setting that makes no sense. I mean fuck join the Army or something then complain to me.
Comment by mojo on 4/23 @ 12:07 pm #
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Comment by happyfeet on 4/23 @ 11:54 am #
Oh hey don’t I know you from masturbation group back at Liberty? Yeah I thought that was you. I was class of 02 I think you were a year ahead of me. So… how’s it going?
Don’t shake hands, feets.
Comment by kelly on 4/23 @ 12:10 pm #
Stone him!
Comment by The Sanity Inspector on 4/23 @ 12:22 pm #
There is an interview with this chap in the current issue of Newsweek. One of the things that amazed him about his stint at LU was the dating scene. Nothing at Brown had prepared him for the possibility, let alone desirability, of dating without sex, drugs, or alcohol. Whatever else is there to do, in the company of the opposite sex?
Comment by Timstigator on 4/23 @ 12:31 pm #
Isn’t diversity a wonderful thing? When libs mix with conservatives, and get to know them, things happen. Like, heads implode because perception isn’t reality.
Comment by Kresh on 4/23 @ 12:32 pm #
“Oh hey don’t I know you from masturbation group back at Liberty? Yeah I thought that was you. I was class of 02 I think you were a year ahead of me. So… how’s it going?”
Oh, you know. It has it’s ups and downs.
Comment by mojo on 4/23 @ 12:34 pm #
Gee, intolerance from the ideological soul-mates of Ernesto Guevara and Pol Pot?
Weird, huh?
Comment by happyfeet on 4/23 @ 12:35 pm #
When libs mix with conservatives, and get to know them, things happen.
Mostly when that happens I think they tell you that you’re not nearly as conservative as you think but exception granted the stereotype remains intact.
Comment by BJT-FREE! on 4/23 @ 12:39 pm #
Usually a long rant about how they won and everything’s gonna be different, followed by a plea that I don’t shoot them.
Comment by Abe Froman on 4/23 @ 1:02 pm #
I agree with hf. My lefty friends can’t tar me with any of their precious cliches so they simply say I’m atypical.
Comment by kelly on 4/23 @ 1:38 pm #
Ditto here. My leftie friends tease me about wearing Berkenstocks and driving a Volvo…with no bumperstickers!
Comment by Rob Crawford on 4/23 @ 1:45 pm #
A method which is the hallmark of bigotry: “Oh, so-and-so is alright, but his type in general…”
Comment by Carin on 4/23 @ 2:12 pm #
Carin I don’t really think it’s the same thing. The right generally castigates apostates for feeding the opposition’s narrative while claiming to still be on the right – or being used to that effect by the left. Who among us cares what Charles Johnson, for instance, has to say about conservatives if he simply mans up and admits he’s a lefty?
All this kid did was puncture the left’s narrative. He hasn’t attacked “his own†that I know of.
No, it’s not the same thing. But it’s caused by the same thing. People on the left don’t like folks that wander off their reservation, but LOVE IT when ours stray.
Comment by dicentra on 4/23 @ 2:22 pm #
All this kid did was puncture the left’s narrative. He hasn’t attacked “his own†that I know of.
But on the left, to puncture the narrative is to assault all lefties. Their whole identity is tied into the narrative that they are good and Christians are scary, dangerous fanatics.
Puncture that and the whole enterprise collapses on itself.
Dude will react to the excoriation from the left in one of two ways: abandon the Left in disgust or abandon his new-found thesis in embarassment. Let’s hope it’s the former.
I can’t even imagine what dicentra goes through.
Given that I live in Utah, I don’t go through much. But being at Cornell was interesting. No one was rude enough to slag on me to my face, and they thought it was cool to have someone there who was practically Amish, because it helped their multi-culti bona fides.
They were eager to make sure that all their wine-and-cheese soirees also included fruit juice, but they had absolutely no curiosity whatsoever about my beliefs, most of the time. On those few opportunities where I could explain, it was like trying to explain a painting to someone born blind. Didn’t get anywhere at all.
Good Lord, why the hell can’t I work with grown-ups?!
Because our society doesn’t produce them anymore. Next question?
Comment by Jeffersonian on 4/23 @ 2:51 pm #
Good Lord, why the hell can’t I work with grown-ups?!
Because our society doesn’t produce them anymore. Next question?
Good lord no, it doesn’t. God bless my sainted wife, but she comes home from her teaching job talking about the petty, juvenile shit that goes on among the teachers and administratio and I can’t believe these people are supposedly functioning adults. Seriously, it’s like the culture of the children has assimilated the adults.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 4/23 @ 3:57 pm #
Good for him. He didn’t actually know and decided to see for himself. And then he honestly reported what he saw and heard.
Such honorable behavior ought to be praised wherever it is found.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 4/23 @ 4:12 pm #
Jefforsonian – the adolescent culture has taken over the adult culture. Just look around and you will see what I mean. James Lileks quoted someone recently about the difference between an ‘ought culture’ (you do things because you ought to do them) and a ‘want culture’ (you do things because you want to do them).
Anytime you see someone dress for an event (i.e., a man putting on a tie and a jacket) because it is what’s done, you see the ought culture poking through; anytime you hear of someone giving up a pleasure to get something completed, you see the ought culture raising a periscope.
Comment by kelly k on 4/23 @ 4:33 pm #
If only the Liberal Army could do what they really want to do–drive Kevin Roose from his home chanting from the Little Red Book of Stereotypes, humiliate him in public, make him write a self-criticism, and then send him into the countryside for ten years of hard labor until he’s ready to admit that 2 plus 2 equals 5.
Comment by dicentra on 4/23 @ 4:45 pm #
A method which is the hallmark of bigotry: “Oh, so-and-so is alright, but his type in general…”â€
But I don’t say that about Lefties. I don’t say that the ones I know are OK but the rest are scum. I know that most of them are OK, but that they hold ideas that I believe will destroy the country.
Conservatives believe they have better ideas; progressives believe they are better people.
Comment by CraigC on 4/23 @ 11:55 pm #
This one doesn’t particularly grab me. Sure, the kid’s premise was a bit condescending, but it seemed sincere, and the reaction from the Tards was pretty tame. To be honest, I had more or less the same reaction from a different angle. The first thing I thought when I got to the part about him becoming religious was, “Oh, no. I wish he hadn’t done that.”
Comment by B Moe on 4/24 @ 4:26 am #
I heard on the radio yesterday that a first grader was arrested for hitting a teacher here.
A first grader. The teacher called the cops and had the kid arrested.
I really think folks missed the boat by focusing on Ayres terrorist past instead of his propagandist present. He and his ilk are doing far more damage to this country now than when they were trying to blow up shit.
Comment by B Moe on 4/24 @ 4:36 am #
It seems he had a stick.
His mother claims abuse in 3… 2… 1…
Comment by Slartibartfast on 4/24 @ 10:56 am #
The kid might have flunked first grade a dozen times or so.
Comment by mojo on 4/24 @ 1:26 pm #
No, they have to advance every child, every year. To do otherwise might damage the tyke’s self-esteem.
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