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March 14, 2009
Context, Interpretation and Intention [Dan Collins]
I’m hoping this is something Jeff will address. This Dyson guy is disgustingly suggesting that black conservatives are colonized by the discourse of the Other, and essentially ventriloquists’ dummies. Code words. Civility NOW!!! Is “racist” a code word? Does it mean “whitey”? 122 Comments ::: Post a comment »RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URI: http://proteinwisdom.com/wp-trackback.php?p=14535 Leave a commentIf you want to leave a feedback to this post or to some other user´s comment, simply fill out the form below. |
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Comment by John Hitchcock on 3/14 @ 3:17 pm #
Trust me, I found out first-hand that many liberals agree non-whites are race traitors. And, of course, there was no opportunity to dialogue intellectually.
Comment by John Hitchcock on 3/14 @ 3:17 pm #
non-white conservatives, that is
Comment by Sdferr on 3/14 @ 3:24 pm #
I was having such a pleasant Saturday. Why’dja have to go ruin it, Dan?
Comment by Dan Collins on 3/14 @ 3:25 pm #
Sorry, Sdferr. It’s St. Pat’s, right? Have a six-pack.
Comment by Sdferr on 3/14 @ 3:27 pm #
I’m thinking we’re going to need a transcript of this piece of shit theater. Hardly and honest word passed either Maher’s or Dyson’s lips. Fuck fuck fuckity fuck.
Comment by Sdferr on 3/14 @ 3:28 pm #
an, of course.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 3/14 @ 3:51 pm #
Code words: Jonah Goldberg pointed out that, since conservatives aren’t prejudiced, and don’t use racist language like reactionary leftists do, reactionary leftists are reduced to charging conservatives with using “code words” in order to smear them as racists.
Neat trick, that.
Comment by prairiemain on 3/14 @ 4:21 pm #
Is “racist†a code word? Does it mean “whitey�
Yes. Unless said with a spit, in which case it means “damn whitey”.
Comment by Stinky Esposito on 3/14 @ 4:22 pm #
Which sides policies have done more damage to blacks since 1965?
Comment by JD on 3/14 @ 4:29 pm #
I am going to pre-emptively denounce everyone. Denounce, and condemn. Now commence being your racist selves.
Comment by B Moe on 3/14 @ 4:32 pm #
When the presenter of Amoo Pourang (Uncle Pourang), a programme watched by millions of Iranian children three times a week on state TV, asked the name of the toy the boy had been given as a reward for behaving himself, the child replied: “Well, my father calls him Ahmadinejad.”
Orphans say the darndest things.
Comment by Jeff G. on 3/14 @ 4:38 pm #
Jeff has retired. You should ask SarahW and Patterico to comment on this. They are the experts now.
Comment by P.J. on 3/14 @ 4:41 pm #
Come on Jeff…you know you wanna!
Comment by alppuccino on 3/14 @ 4:47 pm #
I give Maher about another 6 months. Nobody can be that much of a pussy-asshole and not eventually get beat to death.
Comment by urthshu on 3/14 @ 4:47 pm #
>>Now commence being your racist selves.
Hrm. I dunno if this’ll count or anything, but I was at the St. Pat’s parade and Schumer was there with a bullhorn yelling “hey-ey Rochester” and there was a little scattered applause, you know? Mostly b/c he was saying Hey-ey so much.
But, then he was followed by a woman with a bunch of multi-ethnic kids in yellow Ts holding Obama/Biden signs and they were all waving but everybody was quiet.
So is that an example of Irish racism or what?
Comment by The Monster on 3/14 @ 4:49 pm #
If a conservative of color is a race traitor, doesn’t that logically make a white liberal a race traitor too?
I’m sick of “code words” and “dog whistles” etc. If they keep it up, and succeed in lumping their opponents together with actual racists, they won’t like the result. After all, if you’re equally labelled “raaacist” if you oppose leftism or you burn crosses and perform lynchings, some folks are going to decide that they might as well buy the whole package.
Just look at the Europeans who resist creeping Shari’af*ckation, who are reflexively denounced as raaacists. While some react by shutting up and being good little dhimmis, others are being pushed into the arms of militant white power groups, who only see one, uh, Solution that will, er.. Final-ly resolve the problem.
Comment by alppuccino on 3/14 @ 4:49 pm #
I gotta believe there are wealthy elderly negroes too. That’s a problem for Dyson and Maher. Unless Danny Glover is some sort of ventriloquist dummy.
Comment by urthshu on 3/14 @ 4:50 pm #
>>Comment by Jeff G. on 3/14 @ 4:38 pm #
Jeff has retired.
Oooh! That was like the Shining!!!
Redrum! Danny’s not here!
Comment by JD on 3/14 @ 4:53 pm #
As I predicted …
Comment by alppuccino on 3/14 @ 4:54 pm #
Fucking Donavon McNabb? The “I didn’t realize an NFL game could end in a tie” moron? And he’s the poster child for Rush Limbaugh’s proven racism? What a tool. Does he realize it was the current VP that was surprised that there was such a thing as an articulate bro?
Libs are stupid.
Comment by JD on 3/14 @ 4:56 pm #
Had Olbergasm said the exact same words, it would be used as proof as how insightful and brave the douchenozzle is in his commentary.
Comment by P.J. on 3/14 @ 5:03 pm #
It is so annoying because no matter what your actions are, you can be branded a racist. I did like how Breitbart called Maher out on how Rush had come to his defense a few years ago.
Maybe it will give Maher pause in the future.
Comment by JD on 3/14 @ 5:05 pm #
Maybe it will give Maher pause?!
Surely, you jest.
Comment by geoffb on 3/14 @ 5:06 pm #
FTFY
Comment by Carin on 3/14 @ 5:09 pm #
Jeff has retired. You should ask SarahW and Patterico to comment on this. They are the experts now.
Did I miss something? It’s SATURDAY, forchristsakes.
Comment by P.J. on 3/14 @ 5:13 pm #
@ 23
Well, yeah you are right. I mean, all these clowns would be out of jobs if it weren’t for the Rushs and the Coulter for them to demonize.
If he and Stewart and the like would say, “You know I really disagree with X, but I can see where he is coming from,” it would be end of show time.
Comment by Dan Collins on 3/14 @ 5:17 pm #
You know who’d be dead?
Jeff has retired. You should ask SarahW and Patterico to comment on this. They are the experts now.
Deanna Troi: I sense frustration.
Dead.
Comment by alppuccino on 3/14 @ 5:22 pm #
Well, at least we still have our supremacy. That’s something.
Comment by router on 3/14 @ 5:26 pm #
on the next episode of sanford & son:
?
Comment by adagioforstrings on 3/14 @ 5:42 pm #
re: Dyson on Video 3: Not to be persnickety, but the uncertainty principle didn’t challenge relativity.
1)Newton’s mechanics works on the macroscopic world.
2) Einstein’s relativity is needed when travelling close to the speed of light.
3) Heisenberg’s uncertainty & quantum mechanics is needed when dealing in the subatomic very small world.
Comment by pdbuttons on 3/14 @ 6:00 pm #
dyson
can i denounce my self 4 saying
tyson chicken…
Comment by Matt on 3/14 @ 6:04 pm #
I asked a judge who I know is very republican is I could use a teleprompter during my opening statement and he couldn’t stop laughing. We had a conversation Weds about how wonderful the One True god is, with the judge referring to Hussein as the Messiah.
Then he granted a bunch of my motions. I gave him the right wing conspiracy hand sign and it was Miller Time.
Comment by geoffb on 3/14 @ 6:07 pm #
So Dyson is no Dyson, and certainly no Dyson.
Comment by router on 3/14 @ 6:18 pm #
Context, Interpretation and Intention:
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Comment by Matt on 3/14 @ 7:15 pm #
I bought one of those expensive dysons. My maid says its really good =x
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 7:39 pm #
OOOH noes, the black studies cabal strikes again! Next thing you know, they’ll be trying to figure out why “monkey” gets such a rise from libs and conservatives alike. Or, maybe they’ve already determined that the entire kerfuffle is a politically manufactured hedge. Blacks may be black, but they ain’t all dumb.
Comment by Dan Collins on 3/14 @ 7:44 pm #
Remember noose lady, cynn? What do you think that’s about?
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 7:56 pm #
Some stupid dramatic shit from academia, big deal. I am more interested in how you guys are framing this: as some gargantuan threat by the black community to your exclusionist sensibilities. It is interesting to see how you overreact, since I see no threat to respond to.
Comment by Sdferr on 3/14 @ 7:57 pm #
What’s that?
Comment by Dan Collins on 3/14 @ 7:58 pm #
I thought we were talking about academia. I’ve misinterpreted you. I’m sorry.
Comment by JD on 3/14 @ 8:01 pm #
Who in the hell is an exclusionist? Apparently cynn is hitting the brown bag or the screw-top wine again.
Comment by pdbuttons on 3/14 @ 8:04 pm #
busing
Comment by Sdferr on 3/14 @ 8:05 pm #
For that matter JD, I did a quick scan and can’t find any obvious chatter by anyone about the “some gargantuan threat by the black community” or the black community in whatever shape you choose.
Comment by router on 3/14 @ 8:05 pm #
most of the dumb urbanites go to government schools
Comment by pdbuttons on 3/14 @ 8:05 pm #
roxbury to southie
dang…
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 8:07 pm #
Well, if we’re discussing academia, grievance issues are its bread and butter. So I agree there.
Comment by geoffb on 3/14 @ 8:09 pm #
The exclusion is Liberals excluding black conservatives from being actual thinking human beings, come to “think” of it they do that to all conservatives. We’re all just a bunch of “monkey boys” to the Progressive Lord Whorfins.
Comment by JD on 3/14 @ 8:09 pm #
Sdferr – Apparently, complaining about an abject bastardization of language, and a disgusting dismissal of the individual in favor of the collective is “some gargantuan threat”.
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 8:10 pm #
router: You are an asshole, and a racist to boot. Pick up your badge on the way out.
Comment by JD on 3/14 @ 8:11 pm #
Y’all are sooooooooooooooooooooooo racist. You must have been hanging out with Dems, or maybe even Grand Kleagle Byrd (KKK-Dem).
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 8:15 pm #
Right, JD. You better wake up to a more responsible politic, or you can keep your thumb in your nose.
Comment by router on 3/14 @ 8:19 pm #
urbanites are what race iman cynn?
Comment by JD on 3/14 @ 8:19 pm #
Please speak English, cynn. What is this responsible politic of which you speak? Or, were you referring to how fucking irresponsible it is of Dyson to completely bastardize our language, and to suggest that people, by virtue of their skin color, should subscribe to a particular school of thought, because of their skin color?
Comment by router on 3/14 @ 8:22 pm #
why are liberal/leftists/proggs such idiots cynn? are you BORN stupid? would abortion help this problem?
Comment by Rusty on 3/14 @ 8:27 pm #
#49
All urbanites are black? Or Chinese? or Hispanic? Who’s a racist?
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 8:28 pm #
JD: I perceived Dyson as saying that the whitey right as asserting that any gains on the blacks’ part as suspect. Dyson did not bastardize our language, simply on your say-so, because you deem it so.
Comment by meya on 3/14 @ 8:31 pm #
Ballin! With Marc Sanford.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWTh9_A6t8w
Comment by geoffb on 3/14 @ 8:32 pm #
It’s a learned, learning disability. We have an at least two entire industries devoted to disabling the reasoning, rational parts of the mind and letting the emotional part rule all.
Big business that. Lots of money turning people into the grinning, educated, idiots we see everyday. I’d laugh, but we all pay for it, twice over.
Comment by P.J. on 3/14 @ 8:34 pm #
cynn, you’re going to have to try and be more clear. What do you think about the part where Breitbart was noting Limbaugh’s support of Justice Thomas, and the other two were trying to argue that he doesn’t really “represent” black people? Because he is conservative. And no proper black person could be conservative? So he is not an authentic black?
Did you really not hear any of that?
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 8:35 pm #
Oh, for Christ sake, I am done with you sputtering fools. Here is my only answer: Yes, router, abortion would help the problem. Too bad you weren’t included.
Comment by router on 3/14 @ 8:37 pm #
i like ballin with jim clayburn
Comment by router on 3/14 @ 8:39 pm #
you libs/left/proggs like to kill people no?
Comment by router on 3/14 @ 8:44 pm #
so cynn aborting lib/left/proggs babies is good why do lib/left/proggs want such a thing?
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 8:45 pm #
Yo P.J.: OK, I am a white chick. But I firmly believe that NOBODY is speaking to black people. It’s all pretense. Maybe you can profit, I don’t know.
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 8:47 pm #
this router shit chaps my hide.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 3/14 @ 8:57 pm #
cynn, you’re going to have to try and be more clear. What do you think about the part where Breitbart was noting Limbaugh’s support of Justice Thomas, and the other two were trying to argue that he doesn’t really “represent†black people? Because he is conservative. And no proper black person could be conservative? So he is not an authentic black?
Not just inauthentic, but an actual traitor to his race.
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 9:02 pm #
P.j.: Clarence Thonas doesn’t “represent” black people. Barak Obama doesn’t “represent’ lefties.
Comment by router on 3/14 @ 9:03 pm #
why are lib/left/demorats such idiots cynn?
Comment by router on 3/14 @ 9:04 pm #
el BO is a fucking Communist.
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 9:06 pm #
Jeffersonian, you keep bringing it around to race. Why is that, I wonder?
Comment by router on 3/14 @ 9:09 pm #
@70
@49
Comment by P.J. on 3/14 @ 9:10 pm #
Hey cynn. Thanks for the reply. I agree with you that Thomas doesn’t “represent” black people, but only to the extent that no person’s political persuasion represents anything other than that. But was it not Maher and Dyson suggesting that he didn’t represent most black people BECAUSE of his political persuasion? Maybe I am wrong, but that is what is sounded like to me.
Now strictly speaking, I guess Pres. Obama doesn’t represent all leftist. But in the arena of political philosophy, I think it is a little bit more reasonable to group people who’s opinions and assumptions overlap to a great deal.
Or do you think that any grouping based on any category should be frowned upon?
I think it can be very useful, just not for skin color…or “race,” whatever that means.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 3/14 @ 9:15 pm #
Jeffersonian, you keep bringing it around to race. Why is that, I wonder?
Did you listen to a single word of what Dyson said?
And, what PJ said.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 3/14 @ 9:18 pm #
Oh, and would it be bad form to point out that was my first post on the thread, and thus not a good candidate for keeping “bringing it around to race?”
Comment by Sdferr on 3/14 @ 9:22 pm #
Are there any semioticians in here?
Or (fuck all) poets, painters musicians or meaning makers who’ve been misinterpreted or overinterpreted and want to stick up for their point of view? I could use a little help over here if anybody wants to join in.
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 9:24 pm #
P.J.: I want to get away from this race shit, and if I know other PWers, they would like to do likewise. The bottom line is that race matters in the instant case, but language matters over the long term. Jeff and I may disagree on the ultimate handling of language, but he is a hard-liner on the absolutes (don’t ask me what those are right now).
Comment by geoffb on 3/14 @ 9:26 pm #
Sdferr,
I wish I could but this is bedtime for me on Saturday. My only early night.
Comment by Sdferr on 3/14 @ 9:29 pm #
Heh, maybe if I’m lucky the West Coast will choose tonight to go to bed early too, geoffb.
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 9:29 pm #
You guys insist on racialising everything. Why not benevolent neglect?
Comment by router on 3/14 @ 9:30 pm #
so you call someone a racist. eat shit and die by mexican drive bye assclown.
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 9:33 pm #
Well, we know where you stand, pig.
Comment by pdbuttons on 3/14 @ 9:34 pm #
bring it
turtle…
undefeated!
Comment by Darleen on 3/14 @ 9:34 pm #
cynn wants to “get away from race”
and doing quite of the job of it by sticking her fingers in her ears, la-la-laing and closing her eyes to the Democrat, liberal (ha), leftist history of race-baiting, identity politicking.
Comment by router on 3/14 @ 9:35 pm #
yo cynn
where’s the apology from the demorat party for the klu kux klan, woodrow wilson, slavery, segregation, jim crow, eugenics? assclown i tell you.
Comment by router on 3/14 @ 9:38 pm #
you’re too stupid to understand that pigs are part Mother Earth. Fucking pigalist
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/14 @ 9:42 pm #
Why so angry still, cynn? Plastic Presentdent is at the helm, and Happy Days Are Here Again, right?
Is it starting to sink in that Teleprompter Jesus isn’t really going to steal the money from all your neighbors and give it to you? That he is, in fact, a smooth-talking incompetent who doesn’t have a fucking clue what he’s doing? That he is, on a very fundamental level, simply not very smart? That you screwed the hell out of yourself, and your children, and your grandchildren to come?
Schadenfreude: it’s what’s for breakfast, lunch, and dinner for the next four years.
SFAG: when you come back for your next driveby, I’d appreciate an explanation of why Israel was the first country that came to mind, way back in the other thread. Thanks.
Comment by pdbuttons on 3/14 @ 9:43 pm #
a turtle did cross
a street
he blew a house made of sticks…
it stood
he frowned a turtle frown…
did he get down…
no..
he turtled on..
licked his lips…
stared at the 2nd house…
and wished…
he could….
but then…
something snapped.,,
across turtle creek
thanks chuck berry…
# 1
the turtle
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 9:43 pm #
I don’t aplogize or rationalize for anything my party has done. It’s all about me, right now. Cause that’s our credo, donch’a know?
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/14 @ 9:43 pm #
You guys insist on racialising everything.
Who is calling other people here racists, cynn?
Oh, right: that would be you.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/14 @ 9:45 pm #
I don’t aplogize or rationalize for anything my party has done.
That’s it. Disclaim any responsibility for the looming disaster you’ve perpetrated.
It’s the Democrat way!
Comment by Jeffersonian on 3/14 @ 9:46 pm #
You guys insist on racialising everything. Why not benevolent neglect?
I don’t think it was Andy Breitbart that dragged race into the discussion, cynn.
Comment by router on 3/14 @ 9:47 pm #
fuck you and your teleprompter messiah. where’s john galt?
Comment by pdbuttons on 3/14 @ 9:48 pm #
scratcth my turtle belly
4 give
the third house was full of pricks….
the turtle dug in
and licked his licks
o house u stand
[curly beat 4 head]
david mamet said…
“tert/ ale
…turtle”
Comment by router on 3/14 @ 9:50 pm #
yo cynn where is the “negro army”?
Comment by router on 3/14 @ 9:51 pm #
yo cynn where is the “Magic Negro”?
Comment by router on 3/14 @ 10:00 pm #
?
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 10:01 pm #
Boo! The Magic Negro is hiding behind your front door!!!
Comment by Dan Collins on 3/14 @ 10:02 pm #
You really have to reread To Kill a Mockingbird.
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 10:08 pm #
Me? I’ve read it. Also read Maus. What’s your point?
Comment by prairiemain on 3/14 @ 10:21 pm #
Cynn has appointed ?herself? guardian of our door and she’s here to warn us that there is a magic negro standing there.
Hmmmmm … sorry, I didn’t buy the hope and change and unicorns business before the election, I have even less incentive to do so now considering the abysmal record of The One Zero so far.
You keep using interesting terms that are generally accepted as denoting “race” yet you so cleverly decried all this “race” bull.
Cynn, I have to conclude — you’re a well-educated moron but little else. You’ve added nothing to the conversation except “boo” and “magic negro”.
But so it is with so many who wish to be called “progressive”.
As for Einstein and Relativity, the “relativity” he speaks of is not the same as the political kind. Galileo formulated the first relativity framework in mathematical terms; Einstein simply extended that but using a new set of assumptions. Further, the “relative” thing is also misleading because some take it to suggest there is no “absolutetness” because of it. Nothing could be further from the truth. Special Relativity depends on a key number of absolutes, the most famous being the constancy of the speed of light. Special Relativity also demands that the basic assumptions of Euclidean geometry are true 9even though SE itself suggests other geometries). The primary motiviation of Einstein in reformulating Galiean relativity was to preserve Maxwell’s unification of electrity and magentism which he considered sacrosanct (and said equations forming a large part of classical physics). One of the fundamentals in Maxwell’s equations is a velocity — and that velocity is the speed of light (even though Maxwell himself was not entirely sure that was what it was). It takes SE or “something like it” to preserve that velocity so that Maxwell’s equations work in all inertial frames (and it must work in all inertial frames or none at all).
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 10:41 pm #
God, do I I get some kind of stipend for this gravitas? Or can can I just sleep in??
Comment by Wm T Sherman on 3/14 @ 11:02 pm #
Dyson provided dissertations when short responses would suffice completely. Fill up all the time with lectures, complain of being impugned or degraded in some way when an opponent tries to get a word in edgewise: shout “I’m quite articulate” or whatever. It is an explicit accusation of disrespect, and an implicit accusation of racism. Very effective. Try to get a word in edgewise, and you’re calling him a dumb minority person.
It might be worthwhile to consider the Duke University lacrosse players case and the Group of 88, etc., when considering Breitbart’s remarks. The intellectual and moral dry rot highlighted there extends far beyond Duke. http://durhamwonderland.blogspot.com/
His phrasing was intemperate and set him up for attack. “The academic grievance industry” is a more suitable term, in my opinion.
Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 11:18 pm #
Oh, chill out. Dyson was just rattling on about the latest outrage.
Comment by Phil on 3/14 @ 11:35 pm #
Dyson is being oppressed in his ivory tower so maybe you conservatives should just BACK OFF and let him write his “Gender studies in a multi-culti progressive era of Hope and Change” mid-term.
Just BACK OFF.
Comment by Wm T Sherman on 3/15 @ 12:22 am #
Cynn, he’s a dishonest debater. I explained why I think so.
He’s an academic. He writes papers and teaches students, and does additional things such as making public appearances. And he’s dishonest. The subject thrown out by Maher, “look at Rush Limbaugh and his demonic evilness,” happens to be an admitted strategy by the White House to put the focus away from themselves, to divert attention from the cluster-fuck being perpetrated upon us all. They are using the power of the Federal Government to go after individuals. It is a pattern continued from the election. Remember Joe the Plumber? The only thing about him that mattered in the election was the question he asked Obama, and the answer he received. Obama admitted too much with that answer. Democrat bureaucrats in government agencies went after Joe, illegally investigating his background. Entertainers on TV, people like Maher, joined in to ridicule him. Attention was diverted away from the only thing that mattered: that question, and the answer it received. The pattern continues. It continues because it’s working.
If you want a sense of why I think academic dishonesty matters, take a look at the Durham-in-Wonderland web site that I linked. This would require some effort on your part. If you are interested in the truth, it is time well spent.
The attempted railroading of innocent men into prison for a crime that never happened had many villians. The rogue prosecutor Mike Nifong was disbarred and served one day in jail; fairly light punishment for what he tried to pull off, but better than nothing. His subordinates are doing fine. The corrupt police department has escaped punishment. All the academic villians have continued to do quite well for themselves. Many have moved on to bigger and better things. Their grievance pimping, dishonesty, and incompetence are working quite well for them. The only thing left unfinished is the massive lawsuit against Duke. They will lose.
The alleged threat to civil liberites of the Bush administration has been utterly eclipsed by a very real threat from the new admistration, in my opinion. Do you get some sense of where I am coming from?
Comment by meya on 3/15 @ 12:27 am #
“yo cynn where is the “Magic Negroâ€?”
Already youtubed above.
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[...] perspective the amoral anti-seriousness of the left. What amazes me is that they will search for hidden meanings in code words for their ideological opponents at home, while rationalizing and apologizing for the forthright and unequivocal statements of hatred and [...]
Comment by marc t on 3/15 @ 8:37 am #
as i watched that “debate” i started to think, why is this dyson character allowed to teach our kids. do we have no standards at all. he’s a racist pure and simple. and as for that shit for brains maher, the jokes on him. wait till he dies and then stands before Jesus. about this time he is going to say “oops”.
Comment by Jeff G. on 3/15 @ 10:35 am #
“boy” is a code word. Just ask Patterico.
Remember, kids. When calling your dog around black men, use “Rover,” instead.
Comment by thor on 3/15 @ 11:00 am #
Your balls must be full of money, cynn, why else so many money shots.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 3/15 @ 11:19 am #
“Comment by cynn on 3/14 @ 8:35 pm #
Oh, for Christ sake, I am done with you sputtering fools. Here is my only answer: Yes, router, abortion would help the problem. Too bad you weren’t included.”
You do know that abortion kills more blacks than any combination of popular diseases, do you not?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 3/15 @ 11:34 am #
The Democrat Party has always been the party of the four S’s: slavery, secession, segregation and socialism.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 3/15 @ 11:55 am #
Comment by thor on 3/15 @ 11:00 am #
FOAD, whore, you lying thief.
Comment by meya on 3/15 @ 11:55 am #
“The only thing about him that mattered in the election was the question he asked Obama, and the answer he received. ”
McCain also asked Obama about Joe’s hypothetical costs under Obama’s proposed health plan. And apparently didn’t know what the answer was going to be before he asked the question. That was pretty significant.
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[...] long as we’re talking about code words and “who decides” what interpretation is best, let me add a few points [...]
Comment by Wm T Sherman on 3/15 @ 5:02 pm #
Meya, the issue I brought up was that of going after Joe with government resources to divert attention from Joe’s hypothetical question, and Obama’s answer. “Spread the wealth,” remember? Team Obama obviously felt they had let the cat out of the bag way too early, and had to do damage control – at the expense of an unknown, private citizen minding his own business, approached in his own neighborhood by Obama.
It does not matter whether Joe has a plumber’s license, or a tax lein, or what McCain said later, or what Joe did later. The illegal use of government resources, the public targeting and ridicule of Joe the unknown private citizen by powerful media tools, began immediately.
HE WAS NOBODY WHEN THEY WENT AFTER HIM WITH THE GOVERNMENT AND THE MEDIA BECAUSE OF A STUPID MISTAKE MADE BY OBAMA THE FAMOUS PUBLIC FIGURE. THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
Tell me please, that you understand the point and why it matters. Getting caught up in anything other than that single question, and that single answer, and the resulting raw use of institutional power against “little people,” means that the methods used by these bastards to play everyone are working. I repeat, tell me that you understand the point. Tell me you are not being played.
Comment by meya on 3/15 @ 9:35 pm #
“It does not matter whether Joe has a plumber’s license, or a tax lein, or what McCain said later, or what Joe did later. ”
Those mattered for the campaign. I didn’t know you had picked one thing and only wanted that to matter. In all caps.
Comment by Rusty on 3/16 @ 5:07 am #
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meya. The spirit that ever denies.
Comment by Wm T Sherman on 3/16 @ 6:15 am #
The campaign was not my point. I made that quite clear. The point was that the crowd that just came into power has a habit of abusing institutional power against individuals. You in fact, are choosing the campaign as the one thing that matters, when it is not my point at all.
It appears that you have trouble getting beyond a fixation on “we won.” Hence my use of caps, to try and get through to you. Perhaps you skip through text when you read, looking for certain key words, rather than actually reading everything what was written.
Comment by B Moe on 3/16 @ 6:53 am #
Meya is trying to explain to you that winning is the only thing that matters, Sherman. Accumulating power is the sole meaning of the left’s existence, they have no ideology, philosophy or morality beyond that.
Comment by Wm T Sherman on 3/16 @ 11:32 am #
MIA misrepresentation of B Moe’s point, Meya. He’s talking about you.
Now, a lot of things matter, Meya. For example, one day the Earth will be consumed by the Sun as it expands into a red giant. That matters. One should not load a muzzle-loading firearm with smokeless powder. That also matters.
However, like the thing you keep harping upon, namely how advantage was gained in the election, these things are irrelevant to the point that I was making. One necessary condition for a debate or conversation is to address subjects within the scope of the debate or conversation, and not randomly turn the discussion to other subjects merely because you find them interesting.
Perhaps I have misunderstood you. Perhaps your point is, that using the power of the state to attack individuals purely for political advantage, is a good thing when it works to your advantage; that power for the right people is all that matters, and that the ends justify the means; that nothing I believe matters, because the government can do whatever it pleases now. Is that what you meant?
Another question: do we work for Obama, or does he work for us? Take your time.
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