March 1, 2009
Live from Bloggers Row at CPAC (sponsored by Pajamas Media)

Some final thoughts, before I head back to the hotel and try to rinse all this strained GOP enthusiasm (and a splash or two of barmaid, whose name I’ve forgotten) off of me:

1) Were one to scroll through the photos of the PJM Xpress bloggers — the new mainstream GOP media’s picks for who gets to frame “conservatism” on the web for the next few years — one cannot help but notice how the gallery looks almost like a parody of itself, with the flag carriers of the conservative “movement” coming in a variety of vanillas: besuited and youthfully helmet haired; or else besuited and adorned with the predictable whiskers of contrived wisdom. Plus, a guy with a hat.

2) Are you fucking kidding me?

Question → Are there any wealthy conservatives out there who aren’t bent on using gangs of yes men, keyboard geeks, and corporate team players to build the future of classical liberalism or conservatism?

Anyone want to see a new movement arise in which down-to-earth, unpolished, free-thinking classical liberals become the gonzo “journalists” of new — taking on both the creeping totalitarianism of the progressives and the go along-get along complacency of today’s intellectually bankrupt GOP and their newly manufactured “media arm”?

If so, give me a call. We’ll try to build something useful.

Otherwise, fuck it. Let Ron Silver try to bring you back in from the wilderness. But please, get him a hat first. To show that you’re serious and all.

Peace.

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  1. Comment by Jeff G. on 3/1 @ 10:15 pm #

    You’re just jealous — / Patrick Carroll

    This is not action. Action is writing about how to take action you must do more than write about taking action — / Warren Bonesteel

    Grow up! — / Roger Simon

  2. Comment by maggie katzen on 3/1 @ 10:15 pm #

    you seem to have a thing about hats…

  3. Comment by router on 3/1 @ 10:17 pm #

    hey where can i find those Capt’n Ed shirts?

  4. Comment by Techie on 3/1 @ 10:17 pm #

    i’m not exactly what you would call wealthy, Jeff, nor a particularly gifted writer, but you do have my support.

    I think that we are in the “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.”* phase of the nation, and I wish I knew how to change it, but I honestly don’t.

    (* H.L. Mencken)

  5. Comment by maggie katzen on 3/1 @ 10:17 pm #

    NTTAWWT

  6. Comment by Techie on 3/1 @ 10:18 pm #

    Roger only wishes he had a dancing armadillo.

  7. Comment by Barrett Brown on 3/1 @ 10:46 pm #

    Did they kill Tucker Carlson yet?

  8. Comment by Bob Reed on 3/1 @ 10:57 pm #

    Circulate your “Wanted” poster, and write, “Outlaw! for Hire“…

    But you’re not really lookin’ to be a hired gun; in a way that’s just a different form of yes man…

    What you need is a patron who’d underwrite your activities…

    Maybe if instead of the Outlaw! tack, you instead “reinvented” PW as a non-profit think tank charity…

    Perhaps you could find some Daddy Big-Bucks to show you the money!

    Best Wishes

  9. Comment by Techie on 3/1 @ 11:04 pm #

    You could request government support under “localism”.

    Turn their weapons against them.

  10. Comment by Jeff G. on 3/1 @ 11:08 pm #

    I’m a moribund non-entity. And not because of the left, either.

    G’night, all.

  11. Comment by happyfeet on 3/1 @ 11:08 pm #

    If you need my assistance there’ll be no resistance I think. h to the o to the m to the i to the e and all that.

  12. Comment by happyfeet on 3/1 @ 11:19 pm #

    Wait. Moribund?? Cause of CPAC??? You’re not even a conservative. Cap’n Ed. Jeff. Cap’n Ed. Jeff. Nope. They don’t conflate. Go look at how much discussion Cap’n Ed’s CPAC posts stirred. No don’t go I already looked. It’s like none is how much. Your CPAC reports got way more comments and you didn’t even go.

  13. Comment by geoffb on 3/1 @ 11:25 pm #

    CPAC is one of those “you had to not be there” stories.

  14. Comment by urthshu on 3/1 @ 11:35 pm #

    Don’t be moribund, be festering. More outlawy.

  15. Comment by urthshu on 3/1 @ 11:37 pm #

    And, you know? We all knew it was our turn to be in the wilderness, politically, so don’t lose hope.

  16. Comment by Ag80 on 3/1 @ 11:49 pm #

    I’ve been a reader of this blog for a long time. PJM screwed you, and, I have no idea what catch wrestling is. I’m too old now to care (about the wrestling bit).

    But, you are a voice. A welcome voice. Don’t give up the fight.

  17. Comment by urthshu on 3/2 @ 12:07 am #

    Pshaw. Jeff give up? No, he only taps out, then back in the game he goes.

    Dare he dream of a day when Ann Coulter is a sober, thoughtful analyst? When the unwashed Tea Party hordes have crafted a new Contract for America and had it ratified by popular acclaim [and relief]? When race hustlers are heckled openly on college campuses they were never invited to? Where catch wrestling and riflery are required gym activities in schools throughout the land?

    Well, no frankly. But only b/c I’m really no good at reading people’s minds and I thought it kinda/sorta funny to type anyway.

    I had some bad fish for dinner.

  18. Comment by malaclypse the tertiary on 3/2 @ 12:26 am #

    Have y’all encountered Fabius Maximus? Regarding the futility of bolstering the GOP, methinks he has some things to say; perhaps indirectly.

  19. Comment by peter jackson on 3/2 @ 12:34 am #

    So I take it you weren’t impressed. Dag.

    So what was CPAC about? Was it just a bunch of morality legislators trying to reinvigorate their social-con causes or was there any talk of freedom? Freedom or not freedom? Be honest, I can take it.

    yours/
    peter.

  20. Comment by malaclypse the tertiary on 3/2 @ 12:51 am #

    Meanwhile, the ever charismatic and compelling Patterico snarks at Jeff’s expense on Twitter. Which, given that Jeff isn’t using Twitter, strikes me as emblematic of Patterico’s impotence and basically makes Jeff’s point for him. Oh these luminous GOP stars, they so bold and virile!

  21. Comment by geoffb on 3/2 @ 1:06 am #

    I think that is some commenter named andy levy at the Twitter site.

  22. Comment by Republican on Acid on 3/2 @ 1:17 am #

    Since Gonzo is mentioned here, I am not terribly sure but I don’t think that HST had much peer support when he began. I suppose that you need to find ONE publisher willing to publish, and ONE story that will grab people by the balls and fling them around like chipmunks caught by an alley cat.

    Just a thought, although not that great of one.

    Where to democrat people hang out and do horrible shit? That is where to go and report. While fucked up?

    Maybe this will make me feel better:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoGOY-doTmM

  23. Comment by malaclypse the tertiary on 3/2 @ 1:20 am #

    geoffb – No, It’s Patterico, he’s using Twitter’s @reply functionality to respond to Andy Levy.

  24. Comment by malaclypse the tertiary on 3/2 @ 1:21 am #

    He was responding to this tweet by Andy Levy.

  25. Comment by geoffb on 3/2 @ 1:23 am #

    Ok, I thought the unsigned ones were him. I was wrong. I’m not into Twit.

  26. Comment by SarahW on 3/2 @ 1:25 am #

    What’s with all the snark?

  27. Comment by geoffb on 3/2 @ 1:31 am #

    Liberals aren’t deranged? None of them? Golly gee, who’d a thunk it.

  28. Comment by malaclypse the tertiary on 3/2 @ 1:49 am #

    geoffb – no offense intended. Twitter is definitely an acquired taste.

  29. Comment by Jeff G on 3/2 @ 1:55 am #

    Shhh. Patterico is being a grown up. I suggest you all start, too, or else the Dems will take over both houses of Congress and maybe even the White House!

    Oh, wait. They did, but only because of McCain’s FILTHY LYING CAMPAIGN OF LIES AND FILTH!

    Karl loves when Patterico takes pot shots at me. Gives him a little boner.

  30. Comment by Jeff G on 3/2 @ 1:55 am #

    Hey, Rush! NOT IN MY NAME!

  31. Comment by Silver Whistle on 3/2 @ 1:58 am #

    Peace

    Hell no, it’s highly overrated. Conflict is what is needed.

  32. Comment by Jeff G on 3/2 @ 2:06 am #

    Mustn’t have conflict. Collegiality is what we need. Consensus! Pragmatism!

    Everyone is a good man. Except me. I suck and don’t play well with others.

    Ask around. It’s true.

  33. Comment by Jeff G on 3/2 @ 2:10 am #

    I’m sick. Got my son’s cold. Watching The Champ (1931) and drinking bloody marys. For the vitamin C.

    This racket is no good for my nerves.

    We either have to evolve or die. Well, more likely we’ll be smothered — but the conclusion is the same either way.

    I have some thinking to do. Mostly it involves writing about how evil John Bolton is.

    – Oh, wait. That’s not me. I have no desire for the left to call me “fair” anymore. I don’t need their lousy acceptance — and even if I had it, I wouldn’t mistake it for my being “principled.”

    Quite the opposite in fact.

    TWITTER THAT, PAT!

  34. Comment by cranky-d on 3/2 @ 2:15 am #

    I haven’t decided how drinking affects colds, beyond the fact that it makes them easier to live with, and that is probably enough.

  35. Comment by Silver Whistle on 3/2 @ 2:18 am #

    I hope the evolution is messy. Things need to be said and done, and it doesn’t look like they are getting done. It’s only 4 years til the next election, and damn, that’s not a long time to get it together. Bugger consensus, that’s just pandering to the lowest common denominator. Harnessing outrage will be what kicks this proggy nonsense into the long grass.

  36. Comment by Jeff G on 3/2 @ 2:19 am #

    Mal –

    Let’s evolve. I’m ready.

  37. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 2:31 am #

    I’ll tell you where you have it all wrong, Jeff. You need a four letter name that invigorates, like Rush, Sean or thor, or Swan! Kind’a name is Jeff? Jeff doesn’t stir anger that a Rush or Swan would. It fails even compared to thor.

    Speak in short authoritative, absolutist, simplified bursts of themes populist implicating untold peril, evil winds of apocalypse, even go so far as to predict a coming hurricane a claw hammers!

    Do that all day with a bucket of ice that contains chilled Heinekens and jumbo shrimp sitting next to you so that you balloon up to three-hundred pounds or so, then start in on Oxycontins to ease that never ending back pain from your Jim Furyk-inspired golf swing. Feet up on your desk, pulling on a fat Cuban cigar, you make demands for millions in bling-bling to be brought to you on a silver serving tray. Millions chant your name with a fury in their pitch is all you have to keep telling those who are stupid enough to advertise on your show.

    I know it’s been done but who is to say it can’t be done twice.

  38. Comment by Off Colfax on 3/2 @ 3:20 am #

    All I know is this…

    If the GOP has lost the G, then the GOP has flat out lost.

    Looks to me as if there is a distinct choice forming between the Big Society liberals on the left and the Big Business liberals on the right, with nary an actual conservative in sight.

    Goldstein for Republican National Congressional Committee Chair!

  39. Comment by bour3 on 3/2 @ 3:20 am #

    the flag carriers of the conservative “movement” coming in a variety of vanillas

    I get what you’re saying here, and I realize it’s axiomatic, but vanilla has received an undeserved bad rap for far too long now and I’ll have none of it. Vanilla is actually a very complex flavor consisting of hundreds of compounds, chief among them vanillin which is a 4-hydroxy-3-methroxybenzaldehyde, a single-ring phenolic compound derived from lignin, a complex phenolic polymer that gives seasoned wood its color and hardness and piperonal which is a heliotropin. It is among the most expensive spices, second only to saffron due to the extensive labor required in the plant’s cultivation and the incredible amount of work required to bring the pods to market, which includes fermentation, aging, and drying. Like chocolate, most vanilla grown is limited to within 20Ëš north or south of the equator, so you can spin a globe and see for yourself how this limits production considerably.

    To use the word vanilla to connote plain or conventional, as in vanilla sex, vanilla option, vanilla software, is to completely misunderstand the basic nature of vanilla, and to wrongly malign it.

  40. Pingback by Goldstein Poses a Question. | Little Miss Attila on 3/2 @ 3:56 am #

    [...] Here: Anyone want to see a new movement arise in which down-to-earth, unpolished, free-thinking classical liberals become the gonzo “journalists” of new — taking on both the creeping totalitarianism of the progressives and the go along-get along complacency of today’s intellectually bankrupt GOP and their newly manufactured “media arm”? [...]

  41. Comment by alppuccino on 3/2 @ 5:27 am #

    The Frontier Party wants Obama to fail as fast as possible. Frontiersman love the frontier, and the wilderness is the new frontier.

  42. Comment by Rusty on 3/2 @ 5:31 am #

    Peace

    I got yer fuckin ,PEACE, right fuckin here.

    OT
    We now own @80% of AIG. I want the resident trolls to remind me how the lack of executive experience was an advantage in our new dear leader, because the administartion is beginning to resemble a bunch of drunkin crack whores driving a money truck and throwing armloads of cash down every manhole they come across. Democrats=losers.

  43. Comment by JHoward on 3/2 @ 6:30 am #

    Oh look. It’s thor cartooning. And laboring it right on over into the full-on Usual Progressive Version of Reality, never seeing the transition.

    And here we thought conservatives lacked a history the left would respect (when it’s not out picking pockets, altering texts, and practicing a sophistry of social ruin). Or that we were missing a contemporary statement of ideology. Or a defined platform. Maybe statesmen.

    When really we lacked competing orating showmen and circus breadmasters. It’s all so funny now that you point it out.

    Actually, thor, in his speech Limbaugh hit the left right about where it lives; right in the terrific decay and stink of the oppression it exists to cultivate. Right in the principle of dragging everyone down to its murky collectivist level instead of respecting someone’s individual person enough to also respect their prior liberty.

    Yeah, that ideology of yours; whatever it is in capable hands like yours it certainly comes with a hell of a sales pitch.

  44. Comment by Joan of Argghh! on 3/2 @ 6:38 am #

    20+ States are making the bid to go Maverick. Why is there no blogging on this development?

  45. Comment by Carin on 3/2 @ 6:46 am #

    Honestly, how many conservatives outside of the media even KNOW what CPAC is?

  46. Comment by Slartibartfast on 3/2 @ 6:49 am #

    To use the word vanilla to connote plain or conventional, as in vanilla sex, vanilla option, vanilla software, is to completely misunderstand the basic nature of vanilla, and to wrongly malign it.

    Oh, cool. This is what vanilla looks like. Vanilla is an orchid. Unfortunately, one that needs a greenhouse to survive at my latitude, and also unfortunately an orchid that must be hand-pollinated, unless you just happen to have a particular species of bee on hand. I’ve got a few dozen orchids in maybe four or five species, but no Vanilla.

  47. Comment by McGehee on 3/2 @ 7:05 am #

    I think “gonzo” is by definition unassimilated. Outlaw, even.

    Outlaw gangs don’t come together by holding meetings. The gravitational attraction of like ideas brings them together. Natural, like.

    Things like CPAC and PJM? Not natural, like.

  48. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 7:11 am #

    vanilla has received an undeserved bad rap for far too long now and I’ll have none of it.

    Thank you. Genuine, prime quality vanilla is a sensory delight.

  49. Comment by Brock on 3/2 @ 7:20 am #

    Jeff G., I’m with you, but no more complaining that PJM doesn’t pay you lots of moolah. You know what you’d have to do to get that, and you’re not doing it. So man up, and good luck with the blog.

  50. Comment by meya on 3/2 @ 7:20 am #

    “Let’s evolve. I’m ready.”

    Just don’t get suckered in by thinking you need ‘intelligent design.’

  51. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 7:26 am #

    Hey, Stupid Fascist Girl: remember the other day when you and Your Personal Lord and Savior Blowbama were claiming that there were “no earmarks” in the Porkulus?

    That’s changed.

    Just wanted to make sure you saw the new pravda before you embarrassed yourself, tovarisch.

  52. Comment by Pablo on 3/2 @ 7:30 am #

    Honestly, how many conservatives outside of the media even KNOW what CPAC is?

    And how many know what PJM is? Damned few, I’m guessing. Yeah, Hat Guy is great joke fodder, but it’s not like PJM matters. At the end of the day, they’re all about the benjamins and hanging with the cool kids.

    Does classical liberalism require a fairy godfather? Or a guy with male pattern fedora? That seems counterintuitive.

  53. Comment by LTC John on 3/2 @ 7:30 am #

    Oh goodie, one of my employer’s biggest North American competitors gets more of my money to stay in business.

    We have something that will take care of AIG – it is called runoff.

    Bah.

  54. Comment by Pablo on 3/2 @ 7:34 am #

    I blame ice cream. Vanilla should kick its ass.

  55. Comment by geoffb on 3/2 @ 7:38 am #

    #28 malaclypse,

    No offense taken.

    Late getting back to you as I went to bed.

  56. Comment by Carin on 3/2 @ 7:39 am #

    Exactly, Pablo. They’re important because they say they are. Their ability to help the conservative movement is hampered by their attitude. They’ve self-selected who they want to engage in the conversation, not realizing that no one (really) is paying them much attention.

  57. Comment by Tim McNabb on 3/2 @ 7:41 am #

    John Derbyshire wrote about needing a middlebrow conservatism. I am one of those god-bothering evangelical types, but I agree with him and I appreciate Jeff. I don’t know if the masses will ever be mobilized by a rousing dissertation on the impact of Derrida on our ability to communicate. We need leaders in the trenches, and we need leaders in the Academy. A battalion commander in the field is a different beast than one back at West Point, but both fulfill a vital function, and neither ought to dismiss the other.

  58. Comment by Joe on 3/2 @ 7:46 am #

    Noam Chomsky believes Libertarian Socialism is the next evolutionary step of Classical Liberalism. I see the socialism in this step, but not necessarily the liberalism.

    Rather than whinning on old man McCain, let’s find those Outlaw leaders who can run against this crap.

  59. Comment by Joe on 3/2 @ 7:54 am #

    She loves Joe the Plumber and wants him in her next video…Is this one of those videos they shoot in the Valley?

  60. Comment by Joe on 3/2 @ 7:58 am #

    The Other McCain on those “red headed stepchildren of CPAC” hat tip to Dan Collins

  61. Comment by slackjawedyokel on 3/2 @ 7:58 am #

    Yeah, meya — I take him personally, because to borrow from hf, he is a dirty little lying socialist crap weasel who is intent on turning my country into European Union Part Deux. Fuck him. And by extension, you.

  62. Comment by JHoward on 3/2 @ 8:01 am #

    Sure, meya. I usually encourage my losing twenty five thousand dollars overnight owing to a Democrat pork bill whose various provisions had failed on points for decades.

  63. Comment by meya on 3/2 @ 8:03 am #

    “Yeah, meya — I take him personally, because to borrow from hf, he is a dirty little lying socialist crap weasel who is intent on turning my country into European Union Part Deux. ”

    That’s not quite how I mean though. This Spies character seems particularly obsessed what with all the ‘lord and savior’ stuff. Maybe its not really ‘taking it personally’ maybe its more like a rush to the personal. Even among people who aren’t personal relations at all.

  64. Comment by Pablo on 3/2 @ 8:03 am #

    Their ability to help the conservative movement is hampered by their attitude.

    And their format. Now that they’ve declared blogging a failure, they’re a (*cough*) TV station with a luminous on air staff of … bloggers. They’re not a movement. They’re barely moving at all. Unlike the market.

  65. Comment by Joe on 3/2 @ 8:05 am #

    Outlaw? Or will in 30 years will he end up like the Micky Rourke of conservatism: Walking around mumbling, lighting the filters of cigarrettes, and holding a little dog.

  66. Comment by Slartibartfast on 3/2 @ 8:05 am #

    I don’t get this whole Joe The Plumber appeal. I think Jeff The Asskicker would be a bigger draw.

  67. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 8:07 am #

    This Spies character seems particularly obsessed what with all the ‘lord and savior’ stuff.

    I’m not the one who posts laughably clumsy lies about what he’s doing, SFG.

    Go on, tell us again that there aren’t any earmarks.

    Come on. Si, si puedo!

    And yeah, I take it personally when the guy is stealing my money. Go figure.

  68. Comment by Slartibartfast on 3/2 @ 8:08 am #

    Or will in 30 years will he end up like the Micky Rourke of conservatism

    Oh, I likes me some Mickey Rourke, sometimes. The whole dog thing has me baffled, though.

  69. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 8:09 am #


    Comment by JHoward on 3/2 @ 8:01 am #

    Sure, meya. I usually encourage my losing twenty five thousand dollars overnight owing to a Democrat pork bill whose various provisions had failed on points for decades.

    One can only assume you’re speaking of the tax cut provisions, Alf.

  70. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 8:13 am #

    Bets on how long it takes SFG to admit that she was lying about the earmarks?

  71. Comment by serr8d on 3/2 @ 8:14 am #

    From a comment at that PJM link a couple threads back (oh, what the hell..linky..

    14. not a blogger:

    Where would you have preferred they place bloggers row? In the penthouse suite?

    Please. based on your assement of CPAC, you don’t even belong on blogger row. Wow. talk about a swing and a miss.

    First, we don’t need to discuss the threat of radical Islam…Conservatives get it, we understand the threat. Regardless, It was mentioned by many of the speakers I saw.

    Second, you must of been too busy bro’ing out with your fellow bloggers to notice that Rush brought more life and energy into the Conservative movement in one hour than all the effort of all bloggers since the dawn of the Internet.

    (emphasis mine)

    And that’s a fact. Rush Limbaugh, for all the distaste some bloggers have for him (jealousy, methinks) is more pivotal than any blogger alive, including that funny guy with the never-worn-in-the-rain hat. I’ve seen Rush twice, in person, and have never once met a blogger.

    Point is, until the GOP – CPAC-enablers embraces bloggers (as the Democrats have) they will always be back row to the big boys. And as for wandering in the wilderness for the next 8 years? Fine. Principles first. Sarah Palin, next.

  72. Comment by JHoward on 3/2 @ 8:14 am #

    No, that’d be Oregon chip-fab electricity savings gained by overtaxing California server farms, Einstein.

  73. Comment by Joe on 3/2 @ 8:14 am #

    Looky here, I have a hat too!

    Ahhh, you might have thought about that before you endorsed him.

    Roger Simon is just hiding his shinny pink head…this is more an impish gay Gene Kelly look. Someone should slap you for your father.

  74. Comment by Joe on 3/2 @ 8:16 am #

    Jeff, you keep going outlaw and you are never going to get that invite to Bohemian Grove.

  75. Comment by JHoward on 3/2 @ 8:19 am #

    Maybe its not really ‘taking it personally’ maybe its more like a rush to the personal.

    Or just maybe its sarcasm, rush-to-the-personal meya. Wrong blog again?

    Maybe Jeff needs a Constant Rethuglican Drumbeat of the Personal™ series as his part in meeting the upcoming restrictions on free speech Restoring Post-Rethuglican Fairness by Force Fairness Doctrine™, yeah?

  76. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 8:25 am #

    Bohemian Grove

    Yep, it’d be a real shame to miss the chance to see Donald Rumsfeld naked.

  77. Comment by N. O'Brain on 3/2 @ 8:26 am #

    Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 2:31 am #

    Ah, yet more vitriolic vacuity from the asshole.

    Good job, whore, good job indeed.

  78. Comment by Slartibartfast on 3/2 @ 8:29 am #

    Second, you must of been too busy bro’ing out with your fellow bloggers to notice that Rush brought more life and energy into the Conservative movement in one hour than all the effort of all bloggers since the dawn of the Internet.

    I think that says more sad things about the Conservative movement than it does good things about Rush. All this obsession with Rush and Coulter and Michelle Muccio and Joe the Plumber makes conservatives look, collectively, more like a gaggle of 16-year-old-girl popstar fans than thinking humans.

    All of this while pointing Left and crying Cult of Personality. Well and truly fucked, we are.

  79. Comment by Rob Crawford on 3/2 @ 8:31 am #

    Fuck it. You folks have fun trading nut shots with ‘hor.

  80. Comment by Pablo on 3/2 @ 8:33 am #

    Re Joe’s #75,

    Now let me say: Unlike Rush Limbaugh, I want President Obama to succeed. I honestly do. We are all in this leaky boat together—did I say “leaky”? I meant “sieve-like”—and it would be counterproductive, if not downright suicidal, to want it to go down just to prove a conservative critique of Keynesian economics.

    Yeah, we’ll float our sieve on hope. If you don’t hope for the floating sieve, you just want to be proven right. Christopher Buckley is an idiot. I’m guessing William F is glad he’s dead.

    The strange thing is that one feels almost unpatriotic, entertaining negative thoughts about Mr. Obama’s grand plan, as if one were indulging in—call it—the audacity of nope.

    I don’t feel unpatriotic. I feel rational.

  81. Comment by Carin on 3/2 @ 8:41 am #

    I don’t get the Rush hate. Liberals (I’m looking at you Rahm) want to call him our leader and chastise us for our lack of political gravitas, but as I told my husband, Rush should be viewed through the prism of a community organizer. On a national level, of course.

    He begins discussions and illuminates issues, on a national scale, that no one else can. Let us not forget that he also directs listeners to bloggers. Rush is one of the most inclusive conservatives out there.

  82. Comment by Carin on 3/2 @ 8:42 am #

    Yea, Buckley should avoid writing about politics for a while. A LONG while.

  83. Comment by Carin on 3/2 @ 8:43 am #

    What I got from his article was … well, sure we’re fucked, but lets go down together. No use finger pointing!

  84. Comment by Pablo on 3/2 @ 8:46 am #

    All of this while pointing Left and crying Cult of Personality.

    Rush isn’t a Messiah. And he certainly isn’t Ann Coulter. He merely gives voice to conservative principles in a compelling and straightforward manner. There’s no Draft Rush movement. No one is promising to serve Rush Limbaugh. But that was a damned good speech and such a thing ought to fire up the base.

  85. Comment by Carin on 3/2 @ 8:48 am #

    all of this while pointing Left and crying Cult of Personality. Well and truly fucked, we are.

    At Obama rally’s, they still chant “O-Ba-Ma”. I heard them chant “U.S. A” during Rush’s speech.

    Telling.

  86. Comment by Pablo on 3/2 @ 8:49 am #

    Exactly, Carin. Bingo.

  87. Comment by Carin on 3/2 @ 8:49 am #

    rallies. Whatever bitches.

  88. Comment by McGehee on 3/2 @ 9:07 am #

    Those who wish to domesticate conservatives have made it “hip” to be anti-Coulter and anti-Limbaugh.

    Therefore by definition it is OUTLAW! to be pro-Coulter and pro-Limbaugh — even if only to listen long enough to get the point of what they’re saying.

    The teenybopper adulation I can indeed do without, because that’s such a lap-dog way to behave anyway.

  89. Comment by McGehee on 3/2 @ 9:09 am #

    But if one must be a lap dog, it’s more fun to hang with the outlaws than the cool kids.

  90. Comment by -Ed. on 3/2 @ 9:11 am #

    When you think of PJTV, think of titwhistles.

    Titwhistle is the new highwayman.

  91. Comment by Alec Leamas on 3/2 @ 9:13 am #

    Suits? Whatever is wrong with suits, Jeff?

    I do believe my attire for CPAC would have consisted of slacks, a sportcoat, and a silk ascot – not Mr. Howell so much as Michael Corleone.

    But then, I’m a wartime consigliere.

  92. Comment by Joe on 3/2 @ 9:26 am #

    Pablo: My apologies to Gene Kelly too. He would slap him for fucking up his look.

  93. Comment by Matt on 3/2 @ 9:29 am #

    *All this obsession with Rush and Coulter and Michelle Muccio and Joe the Plumber makes conservatives look, collectively, more like a gaggle of 16-year-old-girl popstar fans than thinking humans.*

    I’m confused about this comment. I can’t imagine we’d want the face of conservative to essentially have no face. In any movement, there are the stars and/or the faces of the movement. I agree with Pablo that the “moderates” in our party have done their best to marginalize Rush because he doesn’t care about pissing them off. He has enough money and clout that it doesn’t matter if he can’t get McCain on his show – people still listen to him anyway. He had a lady on his show last Friday – she was trying to get him to be “less pompous” and spend less time “thumbing his nose at liberals”. Limbaugh correctly said a. its a business and his business is ratings b. he knows exactly how much he pisses off liberals and moderate conservatives and he doesn’t care. That’s his purpose. He’s not running for national office so he can say what he wants.

    Personally, I’m glad he’s there to say what alot of us are thinking.

  94. Comment by geoffb on 3/2 @ 9:33 am #

    The “personality” in my cult.

  95. Comment by N. O'Brain on 3/2 @ 9:35 am #

    “Comment by Carin on 3/2 @ 8:48 am #

    all of this while pointing Left and crying Cult of Personality. Well and truly fucked, we are.

    At Obama rally’s, they still chant “O-Ba-Ma”. I heard them chant “U.S. A” during Rush’s speech.

    Telling.”

    Yeah, I recently had the thought that the Right doesn’t have Fuhrers.

    The Left HAS to have one.

  96. Comment by N. O'Brain on 3/2 @ 9:37 am #

    Maybe Jeff can start of new series “overheard in the Fuhrerbunker”.

  97. Comment by Carin on 3/2 @ 9:52 am #

    Fuck Rod Dreher

  98. Comment by Carin on 3/2 @ 9:59 am #

    I mean, shit, he’s BBF with the progressives:

    ude! I don’t believe it. Two posts with which I agree in the span of two-three days. Yep! It’s me, the progressive guy who reads everything from NATIONAL REVIEW to THE NATION.
    Dude! I think that conservatives need the kind of soul-searching you’re advocating. And I’m not being sarcastic.
    I’m a left-wing Democrat that believes my party needs competition; not demagoguery opposition from the likes of Limbaugh. What’s funny, the guy with whom I disagree the most on economics, Ron Paul; he’s the guy I respect the most in the G.O.P. He’s not constantly whining about the MSM; he’s engaging it. I just saw him a couple of weeks ago on Bill Mahr’s show.
    The FOX news/ditto-head revolution is dead! If conservatives wanna keep preaching just to the choir, they can keep using the same means.

    It’s like reading Balloon Juice. Or Sully.

  99. Comment by McGehee on 3/2 @ 10:04 am #

    Domesticated is what Dreher is.

    On the bright side, he got this really darling collar with a pretty little tag that says whom to call if he’s ever found running around off the leash.

  100. Comment by mojo on 3/2 @ 10:09 am #

    Dude, outlaws don’t go to fuckin’ meetings.

  101. Comment by Alec Leamas on 3/2 @ 10:11 am #

    “Dude, outlaws don’t go to fuckin’ meetings.”

    Well, actually they do – they’re called “sit-downs.”

  102. Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 3/2 @ 10:17 am #

    kinda OT, bust wasn’t hor out here last week touting something about this?

    http://tinyurl.com/atp32t

    For the dividends, if I remember correctly.

    Dow currently at 6882, down …. a lot

    Shameless tit, that hor.

  103. Comment by nikkolai on 3/2 @ 10:25 am #

    If thor’s touting it, go the other way.

  104. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 10:31 am #

    If nikkolai says it, laugh.

    Any other bad comedians out there?

  105. Comment by Alec Leamas on 3/2 @ 10:31 am #

    I might add that I do not accept the Media-generated meme that losing Congress and the Presidency in two cycles means that the party is dead and in need of a wholesale reinvention. There was no such meme when the Democrats lost in ’00, ’02, and ’04.

    Before the economic meltdown, McCain was leading by two points. Secondly, an awful lot of low-information voters for Obama weren’t aware that in 2008, the GOP no longer had a majority in either the House of Senate – an indication of Media malpractice certainly, but now people know. Additionally, Barry’s victory has consumed a lot of the pent-up change energy which isn’t likely to be regenerated in ’10 or ’12. Bush stink will likely have dissipated by then, and Barry can’t exactly run on “change” for a second go-round.

    A lot of these recriminations and reprisals are just attempts by some to use these losses to marginalize their enemies within the party. I try not to pay them any mind.

  106. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 10:35 am #


    Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 3/2 @ 10:17 am #

    kinda OT, bust wasn’t hor out here last week touting something about this?

    http://tinyurl.com/atp32t

    For the dividends, if I remember correctly.

    Dow currently at 6882, down …. a lot

    Shameless tit, that hor.

    Oh no, da wittle Old Texas Turd who didn’t the difference in equity and debt last week shows he doesn’t know the difference in preferred and common stock today.

    Shameless stupidity even for a Old Texas Turd. Typical wedumblican.

  107. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 10:36 am #

    If nikkolai says it, laugh.

    What was it you were saying just this morning?

    “Now is the time to buy.”, I believe it was.

    BWAHAHAHAHAH!

  108. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 10:44 am #

    What was it you were strokin’ off to this morning? Oh yeah, fantasies that I was a big shot forex trader. Usually you beat off thinking about my girlfriend, at least that I understand.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! (cursory replication of sPies laughing at his own words while sitting by himself in the dark)

    Buy low sell high. Focus, chicken-little slut-boy.

  109. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 10:50 am #

    Oh yeah, fantasies that I was a big shot forex trader.

    No, that would be you, whore.

    Glad I shifted a bag full of dollars into them Euro coins.

    You assume I’m ever logged out? You don’t know me well, obviously. I’m up $332 just 44 minutes into this hour. I like it when I hit 500-bones per.

    Lots more. Lots.

    Mark it down on your calendar, folks. “Now is a great time to buy!” — whore, Certified Financial Jeenius, March 2, 2009

  110. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 10:56 am #

    Ewwww, wittle slut-boy sPies links back to when I pushed around $10K in a pip account, which the Yen carried to a small profit in our corporate account. Whoopdee. Silly lie monkey, link it all.

    Snicker.

    Does it burn knowing I consider $10K to be play money, wittle welfare queen?

  111. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 10:59 am #

    Does it burn knowing I consider $10K to be play money

    Actually I find your repeated public humiliation highly amusing, whore.

    Hence the laughter.

    How’s that Aggie endowment doing, whore?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

  112. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 10:59 am #

    Mark it down, wittle broke-dick sPies, the looney GE’nius who begs men for blowjobs on PW, says wait until the Dow is over 14000 before buying stocks!

  113. Comment by MarkD on 3/2 @ 11:00 am #

    If it burns, you should have quit the Russian skanks.

  114. Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 3/2 @ 11:00 am #

    Poor stupid me. I guess this does not matter at all.

    http://tinyurl.com/d4c9p3

    (bullet point #2)

    For the dividends and coupon payments.

    Yes, hor, I cede the floor to you, pure financial genius.

  115. Comment by N. O'Brain on 3/2 @ 11:02 am #

    Dows at 6,834.50, -228.43, -3.23%

    That Obama. A fucking financial genius, I tell ya!

  116. Comment by N. O'Brain on 3/2 @ 11:03 am #

    Oh, and whore is back.
    Work release program?
    Or did you make bail?

  117. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 11:04 am #

    I’m sure it’s healthy as ever!

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! (I have no idea what the fuck sPies finds funny in his statement)

    The ninth largest university endowment in the country is, you know, teh hoohah for some mysterious reason.

  118. Comment by James Joyner on 3/2 @ 11:05 am #

    I didn’t see you at CPAC. Where were you?

    (I was the guy in the dark suit and conservative necktie.)

  119. Comment by N. O'Brain on 3/2 @ 11:05 am #

    Oh, keerist, whore is having his “financial jeenius” fantasies again.

  120. Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 3/2 @ 11:07 am #

    You are so the fucking man, hor. Tell us more how you made turned that million dollar pip account into $10,000, with your mad trading skillz.

    Comment by thor on 9/22 @ 2:14 pm #

    Holy schmackers, the Euro is trading $148.31.

    Glad I shifted a bag full of dollars into them Euro coins. Did I tell you about the monster fish I caught yesterday? Huge!

    TODAY

    EUR/USD 125.64

  121. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 11:08 am #

    #

    Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 3/2 @ 11:00 am #

    Poor stupid me. I guess this does not matter at all.

    http://tinyurl.com/d4c9p3

    (bullet point #2)

    For the dividends and coupon payments.

    Yes, hor, I cede the floor to you, pure financial genius.

    Of course you cede the floor to me, you’re stupid fuck.

    Squawking chicken little, a downgrade and more is already built into the price. Check the yield curves, then note how I spell yield.

  122. Comment by N. O'Brain on 3/2 @ 11:09 am #

    thor is proof that God has a sense of humor.

  123. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 11:09 am #

    I’m sure it’s healthy as ever!

    I’m sure.

    BWAHAHAHAH!

  124. Comment by Dan Collins on 3/2 @ 11:10 am #

    James, I was the guy in the dork suit.

  125. Comment by N. O'Brain on 3/2 @ 11:11 am #

    SBP, stop using facts on whore.

    It gets confused.

  126. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 11:14 am #

    Wittle Old Texas Turd, I can tell exactly how the Euro traded after bug-eyed Paulson admitted the Bushian collapse the credit market. The Euro went 1.37 to 1.43 to the dollar, then fell to 1.27, the rallied to 1.46, then fell to today’s 1.25.

    Link please on your million dollar lie. C’mon, old faggoty Queen, I’m calling you a fuckin’ two-bit liar. Link to where I’ve ever said I made a million dollars trading currency.

    Stroke off much? You and sPies should rub each other.

  127. Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 3/2 @ 11:15 am #

    a downgrade and more is already built into the price

    says hor, looking around nervously. pray tell, where does one find those “facts”?

    http://www.downgradesbuiltintoprice.com ?

  128. Comment by N. O'Brain on 3/2 @ 11:17 am #

    That’s rich, whore calling someone a liar.

  129. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 11:17 am #

    Anyone else get the feeling that whore is actually a Opalocka convenience store clerk with a rich fantasy life and a healthy stock of impotent rage?

  130. Comment by N. O'Brain on 3/2 @ 11:19 am #

    My feeling is that whore is a preening, oleaginous narcissistic asshole, an intellectual and moral pygmy.

  131. Comment by N. O'Brain on 3/2 @ 11:19 am #

    Oh, and a liar and a thief.

    I forgot.

  132. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 11:20 am #

    “It’s very similar to what’s going on nationally,” Handley said. “The returns are all in the same ball park. There are variations but nobody is unscathed. Everybody had diversified portfolios, but everything has been hurt.”

    Poor wittle sPies doesn’t know his math. Think that community college you part-time at has broken into the top ten of endowments? No, don’t think you moved ahead of A&M, maybe next year.

    A&M’s endowment is as healthy as ever relative terms to others, eh Punky Spewster? And with the PUC backing it who really gives a fuck about A&M’s very impressive endowment.

  133. Comment by Mr. Pink on 3/2 @ 11:23 am #

    A&M? So that makes you a redneck godbotherer doesn’t it thor?

  134. Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 3/2 @ 11:23 am #

    I can tell exactly

    I got one better, don’t tell me, post your trade confirms here. pdf is fine.

  135. Comment by N. O'Brain on 3/2 @ 11:24 am #

    “A&M’s endowment is as healthy as ever relative terms to others…”

    See?

    A liar.

  136. Comment by Slartibartfast on 3/2 @ 11:24 am #

    I’m just wondering how many more billions we’re going to pour into AIG, and what the return could possibly be, given that their market cap is now just north of $1b.

  137. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 11:24 am #

    Poor wittle sPies doesn’t know his math.

    Actually, I’ve humiliated you on that on more than one occasion, too.

    The fund managed by the Texas A&M Foundation lost about 25 percent — in the range of $240 million — of its long-term investment pool since the end of June

    Must be that “new math”.

    BWAHAHAHAHAH!

  138. Comment by Dan Collins on 3/2 @ 11:25 am #

    Oh, geez. I thought it was bloggers row!

    row 3 (rou)
    n.
    1. A boisterous disturbance or quarrel; a brawl. See Synonyms at brawl.
    2. An uproar; a great noise.
    intr.v. rowed, row·ing, rows
    To take part in a quarrel, brawl, or uproar.

    My bad.

  139. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 11:26 am #

    whore’s take on health: “Yeah, I’ve got brain cancer, but I’m as healthy as ever relative to someone who’s dead.”

    Lamest. Spin Attempt. EVER.

    BWAHAHAHAHAH!

  140. Comment by Jeff G. on 3/2 @ 11:26 am #

    I was the guy who wouldn’t be caught dead being seen. I spent most of the time in bars. Wearing a singlet and wrestling people for pool money.

  141. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 11:27 am #


    Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 11:17 am #

    Anyone else get the feeling that whore is actually a Opalocka convenience store clerk with a rich fantasy life and a healthy stock of impotent rage?

    Anyone else get the feeling that you don’t have a job much less a dime to your name? NTTAWWT!

    You ride a bike to class, when you have one to go to that is, don’t ya. You have a fuckin’ 5-year-old Mac, don’t ya. I bet a memory upgrade is something you have to save for.

    The fact that people look down on you makes you bitter, no.

  142. Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 3/2 @ 11:30 am #

    don’t try to change the subject hor – post your fx and stock brokerage trading statements here. mister big-bitch trader. bring it. shame us.

  143. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 11:32 am #

    #

    Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 11:24 am #

    Poor wittle sPies doesn’t know his math.

    Actually, I’ve humiliated you on that on more than one occasion, too.

    The fund managed by the Texas A&M Foundation lost about 25 percent — in the range of $240 million — of its long-term investment pool since the end of June

    Must be that “new math”.

    BWAHAHAHAHAH!

    Whooosh, right over you head. How is A&M’s endowment performing any better or worse than others after the Bushian market collapse? Read the article you linked, idiot.

    Would you like another go at some Chomsky, the simple stuff? You got a zero on the last pop quiz, btw.

  144. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 11:35 am #

    Whooosh, right over you head.

    You’re not even trying any more, loser.

    So, is today still “a great time to buy”, whore?

    BWAHAHAHAHAH!

  145. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 11:40 am #

    #

    Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 3/2 @ 11:30 am #

    don’t try to change the subject hor – post your fx and stock brokerage trading statements here. mister big-bitch trader. bring it. shame us.

    Why, you wouldn’t know how to read them (BWAHAHAHAHAHA, cursory attempt at mocking sPiesian self-induced laughter)!

    Come talk to me when you understand stocks from bonds and preferred from common and puts from calls, Old Wet Turd.

  146. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 11:43 am #


    Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 11:35 am #

    Whooosh, right over you head.

    You’re not even trying any more, loser.

    So, is today still “a great time to buy”, whore?

    BWAHAHAHAHAH!

    BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Yes.

    Stocks are cheaper when there’s more sellers than buyers.

  147. Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 3/2 @ 11:51 am #

    Why, you wouldn’t know how to read them

    (snicker)

  148. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 12:05 pm #

    Sure thing, thor.

    I’m kicking myself for not taking your “now is the time to buy” advice, given right before the market opened today.

    Why, I’d probably be able to retire tomorrow!

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

  149. Comment by ushie on 3/2 @ 12:09 pm #

    The scent of pure vanilla turns me on. So does Ann Coulter.

    And I’m a girl.

  150. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 12:09 pm #

    Yes, wittle sPies, that’s how it works, you buy stocks at the open and retire at lunch time.

    BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  151. Comment by DarthRove on 3/2 @ 12:18 pm #

    I thought day trading went out with crumpled linen suits, Motorola brick phones, and Culture Club.

  152. Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 3/2 @ 12:18 pm #

    Yes, wittle sPies, that’s how it works, you buy at the open and get a margin call at lunch time.

    Hor’s trading model.

    BTW, Hor:

    r’ut oh!!!

    http://tinyurl.com/cukgf5

  153. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 12:21 pm #

    whore, can you point to any piece of “investment advice” you’ve ever given here that panned out?

    Go ahead. I’ll wait.

  154. Comment by DarthRove on 3/2 @ 12:24 pm #

    Q: What do you call couples who practice the rhythm method?
    A: Parents

    Q: What do you call day traders?
    A: People who are livin’ in a material world, and they are a material girl.

  155. Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 3/2 @ 12:30 pm #

    Timex should seriously consider signing hor up as a spokeman.

  156. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 12:45 pm #

    Ewww, desperate Old Texas Turd is still trying to show us all ‘em smarts of his.

    Hey, coward, I know you’re fuckin’ stupid, OK. A.Rank.Amateur.

    I don’t own any GE or GE pref.s, never said I did, they do have at least one large tradeable pref. issue that I’m aware of. I’m watching some interesting income plays, including FITB’s pref., just as others are. I know the value in understanding the difference in cumulative and non-cumulative preferreds. Get it? It’s not just confusing lingo to me, Sallie Mae’s TIPRS are second nature to me. Nobody but a total chucklehead like you confuses pref.s with common, much less bonds with stocks.

    Pretend as you may, but you don’t have a clue. Nobody keeps making the mistakes you’ve made who actually knows which way is up.

    And.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Snicker.

    Giggle.

    Look, bunnies!

    Elevanty!!!11!!!

    None of your message board sparkles impress me either, I’ve seen ‘em all before.

  157. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 12:46 pm #

    whore, can you point to any piece of “investment advice” you’ve ever given here that panned out?

    Go ahead. I’ll wait.

    Still waiting, whore.

  158. Comment by McGehee on 3/2 @ 12:47 pm #

    There’s an awful lot of one-sided conversation in this thread — thanks to TrollHammer.

    Makes the unHammered look a little silly though.

  159. Comment by Jeff G. on 3/2 @ 12:59 pm #

    Please don’t play “let’s exchange variations of ‘fuck’” with thor.

    Thanks. Think Matt Ryan. It’ll help you put things in context.

  160. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 1:01 pm #


    Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/2 @ 12:21 pm #

    whore, can you point to any piece of “investment advice” you’ve ever given here that panned out?

    Go ahead. I’ll wait.

    You don’t have to wait, wittle sPizee-wizey. Tink weal hard, work your knuckles into your temples. How did I (we, actually) make money in our PIP account, yes, we got stopped out of almost everything, except our dollar/yen contracts. Ohnoes!

    Awww wittle sPizzzey gets busted again. Desperate fantasist, you’re not waiting, you’re rubbing yourself raw.

  161. Comment by Jeff G. on 3/2 @ 1:16 pm #

    Incidentally, I like and respect Slart, but — though I don’t listen to Rush Limbaugh — I certainly respect what he’s been able to do.

    That the left is able to take him out of context and browbeat people like Michael Steele (or, less importantly, Patterico) into acknowledging, for purposes of establishing their own “reasonableness”, that Limbaugh is somehow evil and ubiquitously disingenuous (not to mention poisonous to public discourse) is a problem of the exact sort I wrote about when people on the right were falling all over themselves to distance themselves from Bill Bennett’s “racist” remarks, or Bush’s handling of Katrina.

    Every time we cede such ground, we lose a bit of our principles for the purposes of pretending we’re being pragmatic.

    But REAL pragmatism demands we don’t cede the points that allow us to maintain and defend our principles.

    It’s one of those paradoxes. But nothing that can’t be scoffed at by a Patterico mass Tweet.

  162. Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 3/2 @ 1:26 pm #

    Hor. None of your investment acumen sparkles impresses me either, I’ve seen ‘em all before.

  163. Comment by thor on 3/2 @ 1:41 pm #

    You’re a dumfock who stares at the butt end of turkeys.

  164. Comment by Spiny Norman on 3/2 @ 1:45 pm #

    Comment by Jeff G.

    Please don’t play “let’s exchange variations of ‘fuck’” with thor.

    Why it’s not worth it arguing with the drunk at the end of the bar. When one realizes thor IS that drunk at the end of the bar, it’s easy to ignore him.

  165. Comment by Wowbagger, the Infinitely Prolonged on 3/2 @ 1:48 pm #

    For an encore, possibly the host could tell us what Bill Clinton meant when he said “depends on what the meaning of the word is is.” You know, since taking four word sentences at face value means “taking them out of context” maybe you understood Clinton. I’m more of a plain meaning type of a guy, so when a guy says “I’ll tell what I would have written in four words: I hope he fails,” well gosh golly, I tend to take him at his word.

    Then again, I ain’t no fancy literature guy….

  166. Comment by Alec Leamas on 3/2 @ 2:03 pm #

    “I hope he fails . . . [in his efforts to destroy the United States].”

    See? Howsat?

  167. Comment by pdbuttons on 3/2 @ 2:09 pm #

    old wooden rollercoasters
    where if u stood after the first turn u mite be decapitated
    are not as scary as bambi’s economy
    i think i’ll invest in platform sneakers
    to get my head above water?/or that “u have 2 be this tall’ line
    whee!
    who picked my cotton candy?
    give me a gun/i’ll win u a prize!

  168. Comment by JHoward on 3/2 @ 2:46 pm #

    Every time we cede such ground, we lose a bit of our principles for the purposes of pretending we’re being pragmatic.

    Classical liberal versus sec-progg politics are inherently and morally asymmetrical. One is theft (name your flavor, it’s all either theft or the lie needed to commit it) and the other is enforcing what law remains preventing theft.

    One is right and the other is wrong. One is true and the other false.

    Ceding ground to thieves is folly. We needa quit that.

  169. Comment by Jeff G. on 3/2 @ 3:37 pm #

    Or, “I hope he fails [inasmuch as he's hoping to move the basic US system of governance toward European soft socialism and progressive totalitarianism.]”

    Works better if you’re one of them fancy lit guys what knows how to revisit context and acknowledge intent.

    What’s funny is the idea that you now have to be a “fancy lit guy” to pretend to understand intent. The rest get to act smart and nuanced for adopting a posture of dumb and clueless.

  170. Comment by Will on 3/2 @ 4:24 pm #

    Jeff,

    I’ve read this site a long time and loved every minute of it, particularly when you were at your heights, but also when you somewhat receded into the background and let others bear the standard. In any case, you generally had a very pleasnt disposition, only occasionally (usually when provoked) appearing downcast or bothered. Lately, however, it seems you’ve become decidedly bitter, or, at the very least, taken on a decidedly bitter tone, and I was wondering why that is.

  171. Comment by ushie on 3/2 @ 4:29 pm #

    Will, it’s probably because he has to dress in a singlet and wrestle people for pool money. I suppose he really likes to swim.

    Lincoln didn’t have much edumacashun but he sure could understand words and their intent.

  172. Comment by Alec Leamas on 3/2 @ 4:47 pm #

    Rush should just swear the Oath of Supremacy like David Brooks and Kathleen Parker and be done with it.

    No sense in going all Thomas More and losing his head or anything.

  173. Comment by Jeff G. on 3/2 @ 4:54 pm #

    Lately, however, it seems you’ve become decidedly bitter, or, at the very least, taken on a decidedly bitter tone, and I was wondering why that is.

    I think it has something to do with knowing what’s coming and feeling powerless to stop it.

  174. Comment by kelly on 3/2 @ 5:03 pm #

    I think it has something to do with knowing what’s coming and feeling powerless to stop it.

    Yup.

  175. Comment by Alec Leamas on 3/2 @ 5:09 pm #

    “I think it has something to do with knowing what’s coming and feeling powerless to stop it.”

    I haven’t become bitter. I’ve simply occupied myself with the mundane things of life, much like the inhabitants of Pompeii resigned to their hot, molten fate.

  176. Comment by kelly on 3/2 @ 5:15 pm #

    “hot, molten fate”

    No kidding. Not too long from now we’ll be begging for the wall, a blindfold, and a cigarette.

  177. Comment by Will on 3/2 @ 5:17 pm #

    I think it has something to do with knowing what’s coming and feeling powerless to stop it.

    I can’t argue with that at all. I guess I just never took you for a guy who would take it out on your allies and/or people with whom you’ve had the most minor of disputes. That aside, don’t let the perpetrators of “what’s coming” get you down, and even if they do, don’t give them the satisfaction of seeing you down. You may see yourself as marginalized, but I think you considerably underestimate how important you are in the ideological battle. Anyway, you keep writing and I’ll keep reading.

  178. Comment by McGehee on 3/2 @ 5:43 pm #

    Jeff, there is a difference between being uninfluential and being underappreciated. You may be the latter but you are most certainly not the former.

  179. Comment by Jeff G. on 3/2 @ 5:46 pm #

    You can’t be influential if feeling marginalized makes bothering to write a chore.

  180. Comment by happyfeet on 3/2 @ 5:47 pm #

    That’s not very defiant.

  181. Comment by SDN on 3/2 @ 5:48 pm #

    Amen #179

  182. Comment by maggie katzen on 3/2 @ 5:53 pm #

    maybe you need a “new piano”, Jeff. It’s really fired me up the last week. or it’s the drugs. but I’m going with new piano for the moment.

  183. Comment by meya on 3/2 @ 5:56 pm #

    “Hey, Stupid Fascist Girl: remember the other day when you and Your Personal Lord and Savior Blowbama were claiming that there were “no earmarks” in the Porkulus?”

    Well, I was claiming that the CA-NV line wasn’t in the stimulus, and the ‘acorn earmark’ wasn’t really an ‘acorn earmark.’

    “That’s changed.”

    That link isn’t talking about the stimulus.

  184. Comment by mwm on 3/2 @ 6:44 pm #

    It’s fun to watch. The GOP now has a recovering drug addict in charge – Limbaugh.

  185. Comment by Pablo on 3/2 @ 6:47 pm #

    The Dems have a recovering pot/cokehead in charge. Limbaugh is a talk show host.

  186. Comment by Pablo on 3/2 @ 6:49 pm #

    You can’t be influential if feeling marginalized makes bothering to write a chore.

    Marginalized? OUTLAW!

    Mebbe its time to go rob a train or something to get the juices flowing.

  187. Comment by mwm on 3/2 @ 6:55 pm #

    Limbaugh fits the definition of a drug addict. Many people used drugs in the 70’s. Most did not become addicts. Limbaugh became an addict. That is the difference.

  188. Comment by Pablo on 3/2 @ 6:58 pm #

    That and the talk show host/POTUS thingy. Very fucking astute, mwm.

  189. Comment by ushie on 3/2 @ 7:55 pm #

    mwm isn’t the sharpest crayon in the box. But then, he’s stamping his widdle feets because we told him to color within the lines, the fool.

  190. Comment by McGehee on 3/2 @ 8:27 pm #

    mwm is sharp like a Q-tip.

  191. Comment by Slartibartfast on 3/2 @ 8:33 pm #

    Incidentally, I like and respect Slart, but — though I don’t listen to Rush Limbaugh — I certainly respect what he’s been able to do.

    Thanks for that, Jeff. I don’t have any problem with Limbaugh’s ability to pull the conservative core together. I just have a problem with him using counterfactual crap to do that. Not saying he does that all the time, just enough to exceed my threshold of annoyance.

    Which I’m sure I’ve done for some other folks here, but you’re just as free to tune me out as I am to tune out Limbaugh.

  192. Comment by SteveG on 3/2 @ 8:45 pm #

    #181

    Jeff,
    That is the time to double down on the productivity.

    Hunter S Thompson was a prolific writer in his early years. After he’d made his name he blew everyone off and became exclusive… disappearing for months at a time, missing deadlines, reappearing only to ask for more money etc.
    Lots of talented people get this dynamic backwards.

    Just riff from the heart.
    Do it often… surely there are lots of things to let your passion fly over?
    Cut it all loose for a year and see what happens. No disappearing.
    Obama and the idiots that run the GOP will give you more than enough material, so make those who dissed you pay by showing them you rock.
    Life is simple that way.
    Your time catch wrestling has shown you a lot of how to deal with those out there who run their mouths but do not know who they are dealing with, no?
    Yapping away when they are an inch away from having someone rip off their heads and piss into their dead skull (if I may apologize to Jack Nicholson for stealing his line).

    Give it a dedicated no bullshit no hiatus year. This year will be full of great Washington nonsense, don’t let the opportunity pass you by.

    PS: forget about Patterico and Karl…. unless you want to get caught up in the small story of life that all petty squabbles wind up being

  193. Comment by Jeff G. on 3/2 @ 9:09 pm #

    I’ve given it years at a time. I don’t have the stamina any more.

  194. Comment by happyfeet on 3/2 @ 9:22 pm #

    yerba mate

  195. Comment by serr8d on 3/3 @ 6:54 am #

    Bullshit, Jeff. No quitting allowed.

    Unless you smoke, of course.

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