A cursory look at the effects from The One’s cult of personality:
Nicky Hall feels it not only necessary to label her symbols within the artwork so you won’t miss her intent, but she also feels she needs to explain it, too.
Art of Obama earnestly features submitted images of His Hopeychangieness, including a confession that they are fans of Dan Lacey, painter of the Nude Obama on Unicorn series [yes, dear God, a series!!] including Hudson River Miracle where Obama is really the one, not Chelsey B. Sullenberger, landing US Air flight 1549.
Whether Lacey is just having a joke on Obamabots (and making a little bank on it) or not is up for debate.
Another unironic Obamart site, Obama Art Report, a bit more “edgy” with street artistes and billboard hijack crews.
If the above is any indication, the high hopes that The One will “bring us a new appreciation for the sonnet” are premature, if not delusional. Certainly anyone that seriously writes …
Every U.S. president has a massive influence on what we see at the movies and on television, the music we listen to and the books we read. Most cultural influence flows from a president’s policies.
… is doing more than their fair share of pharmaceuticals.
Comment by mojo on 1/25 @ 1:12 pm #
Holy crap.
Comment by slackjawedyokel on 1/25 @ 1:16 pm #
Gawd, this really makes me wish I could draw!!! The possibilities are virtually endless . . .
Comment by Phil on 1/25 @ 1:17 pm #
Um…wow? Lefties, are you seriously going to defend this shit?
Doesn’t Naked Obama on a Unicorn (THE SERIES!) creep you out just a teensy weensy bit?
Seriously, do liberals drink different water than me or something? Is it filled with arsenic or methamphetamines?
Comment by bullfrog on 1/25 @ 1:24 pm #
Doesn’t Naked Obama on a Unicorn (THE SERIES!) creep you out just a teensy weensy bit?
Dude, *nothing* creeps these people out so long as it has to do with Teh One. I had a days-long e-discussion with some friends around inauguration time wherein I kept pointing out all the stuff that, had Republicans done even 1/10th of it for Bush, would have their heads exploding faster than you can say “Hitler!” No dice.
You know, if it’s possible all of this is making me feel worse for the North Koreans — they don’t have a choice about participating in the cult of personality.
Comment by happyfeet on 1/25 @ 1:26 pm #
Those ones who can’t do journalisms paint pictures I think.
Comment by Semanticleo on 1/25 @ 1:32 pm #
“Doesn’t Naked Obama on a Unicorn (THE SERIES!) creep you out just a teensy weensy bit?”
Rich this; coming from Bohemians who swooned as The Idiot Bastard Son strutted across the Carrier Deck with his CodPiece in full bloom.
Conservative Bliss is all in their imagination……
Comment by Carin on 1/25 @ 1:32 pm #
You can’t parody this stuff. Perhaps that’s what they meant when they said nothing was funny about Barack.
Comment by Darleen on 1/25 @ 1:36 pm #
cleo
You can point to some Bush Art of that moment to source your assertion?
Comment by happyfeet on 1/25 @ 1:37 pm #
Baracky is nothing but Mr. Soros’s codpiece I think. He wanted the job really bad too. Daddy issues. It’s very sad.
Comment by Carin on 1/25 @ 1:39 pm #
Who are you talking to Cleo? Do one think there is ONE of us here who has a copy of that picture?
Comment by Semanticleo on 1/25 @ 1:39 pm #
“You can point to some Bush Art of that moment to source your assertion?”
The ‘art’ was in the crafting of his hollow persona, and the careful placement of the sock in his drawers. What? You don’t see that as art?
Comment by B Moe on 1/25 @ 1:40 pm #
Please note: Your actual art print will NOT have “www.DrawingMemories.com” stamped across the image.
Pretty much says it all about the target audience.
Comment by Semanticleo on 1/25 @ 1:41 pm #
“Do one think there is ONE of us here who has a copy of that picture?’
It’s an image which burns itself into the cortex, and I all of you salivated over it.
Comment by Dan Collins on 1/25 @ 1:41 pm #
I just can’t wait to type the sentence, “Holy nude Obama on a unicorn, you’re stupid, parsnip.”
Comment by Semanticleo on 1/25 @ 1:42 pm #
strike ‘I’.
Comment by Carin on 1/25 @ 1:42 pm #
Cleo, you are simply so full of shit.
Comment by happyfeet on 1/25 @ 1:44 pm #
But what was cool about the Iraq War was we won it and freed the people what Baracky wanted to genocide to death and hand over to Al Qaeda. Boy he’ll kick anyone under the bus to get a vote, that one. Cause he’s a simpering dirty socialist pansy is why.
Comment by Semanticleo on 1/25 @ 1:44 pm #
“you are simply so full of shit.”
Do you still wear the saliva-stained dress you wore on that day?
Comment by Sdferr on 1/25 @ 1:45 pm #
What is it like being a full-time projector, imagining you’re living inside other people’s minds? Is it just so much fun you can’t give it up? Or does it pay super well with good medical benefits?
Comment by Semanticleo on 1/25 @ 1:46 pm #
“Cause he’s a simpering dirty socialist pansy is why.”
Sad little clown is still crying. Obama won is why.
Comment by Carin on 1/25 @ 1:46 pm #
bla bla bla, I’ve got nothing of substance to say … my name is Cleo …
Comment by maggie katzen on 1/25 @ 1:47 pm #
depends on the union.
Comment by Darleen on 1/25 @ 1:48 pm #
Shorter Cleo: LOOK BUNNIES!
Comment by happyfeet on 1/25 @ 1:49 pm #
For reals. How can you even bring up Bush and the aircraft carrier thing without making people reflect on how Baracky could never get away with that sort of thing cause he’s such an unmanly swish? It’s laughable to think he could strike any kind of for real commander in chief pose.
Comment by Techie on 1/25 @ 1:49 pm #
So, what you’re saying, ‘Cleo, is that your side is totally style (paintings of Obama nude on unicorns) over substance (you know, the CiC thanking a Aircraft Carrier crew for accomplishing their mission [the destruction of Saddam's organized regime in about 8 weeks]).
Cause that’s pretty weak tea.
Comment by Techie on 1/25 @ 1:51 pm #
BTW, how many hours has THE ONE logged? It must have been intensive training and quick action that saved all those USAir passengers when he LANDED THE AIRBUS IN THE HUDSON RIVER.
(Who is buying this shit?)
Comment by Semanticleo on 1/25 @ 1:51 pm #
“It’s laughable to think he could strike any kind of for real commander in chief pose.’
Bush, with his intellectual deficit, was able to convince you. I think Obama is way more smarter than you, so there’s that……
Comment by Merovign on 1/25 @ 1:51 pm #
The left has printed about 200x the words the right did about that day, Cleo.
Looks like somebody has their panties in a wad about that, and it ain’t who you claim it is.
Comment by SarahW on 1/25 @ 1:54 pm #
The engine ducks are the best thing I’ve ever seen.
Comment by irongrampa on 1/25 @ 1:54 pm #
Wish you guys would lighten up on the trolls, don’t you realize that this is their version of social interaction?
I have to say,though, even watching them in victory, one still gets the impression of someone on the outside, pressing their nose on the window glass, mutely asking if they can please be let in.
Comment by happyfeet on 1/25 @ 1:55 pm #
Baracky? Smarter? What has Baracky ever contributed to American intellectual life? He’s never had a job long enough to develop any particular expertise and his contributions with respect to Marxism are all pretty stale regurgitated thinkings what his hateful pastor articulated way more better. No. Not a big thinker, this Baracky.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/25 @ 1:55 pm #
So the pro-slavery ‘cleo is playing tu quoque in defense of the Cult of the One?
Go fuck yourself, ‘cleo. With a barbed-wire wrapped baseball bat.
Comment by Semanticleo on 1/25 @ 1:56 pm #
“Cause that’s pretty weak tea.”
The last 8 years seems the weak brew. Obama’s been in office for……less than a week. Let it steep a little before you declare it sub-par.
Comment by ThomasD on 1/25 @ 1:56 pm #
All the talkingheads blathering on about M’chelle’s fashion sense kinda set the stage for this. I mean, really, are any of these types actually going to start following her lead? I think not. they’ll talk a good game, but then quietly scoff amongst themselves when the time is right.
Likewise is any of this ‘art’ really going to go anywhere? No, it’s ethnic kitsch, and it will be treated as such.
Does make one smile though. Maybe someone can bring it all together in an illustrated Little Blue Book.
Is black velvet racist?
Comment by B Moe on 1/25 @ 1:56 pm #
I so want to make fun of the painting itself, but I fear it may be some Profound School of Artisty Art Movement I am unaware of and thor will make fun of me again.
Jurgenstill die broke, or something probably.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 1/25 @ 1:57 pm #
Let me guess: Semen and Nipply are still screeching about Bush.
Time to think up some new material, guys, lest start sounding like DataDave (who, you may recall, is still screeching about Reagan, nearly 30 years after he was elected).
Comment by B Moe on 1/25 @ 1:59 pm #
You got your Lil Blue Pocket Obama yet ‘cleo? You should start laying some of those quotes on us. Do they come in like chapter and verse, or how does that work exactly?
Comment by Semanticleo on 1/25 @ 1:59 pm #
“No. Not a big thinker, this Baracky.”
And you’re a big thinker, sad clown. That’s why you slurped down
your Bush love potion, then begged for more.
Comment by Sdferr on 1/25 @ 2:00 pm #
Obama as CinC cover art. So there’s that, at least.
Comment by ThomasD on 1/25 @ 2:00 pm #
Relax Bmoe, if it’s not in Wikipedia thor will not be among the cognescenti.
Comment by parsnip on 1/25 @ 2:00 pm #
I like this Bush-inspired masterpiece:
http://www.pensitoreview.com/images/art-bush-bomb-turban.jpg
Comment by Semanticleo on 1/25 @ 2:01 pm #
“Time to think up some new material, guys”
not a chance. we’ll be dining on this for years, just to serve as a reminder to the likes of y’all. “Never Again’.
Comment by maggie katzen on 1/25 @ 2:02 pm #
don’t forget this one, Sdferr. Is there any past President he can’t be?
Comment by Sdferr on 1/25 @ 2:03 pm #
Has he been done up as Millard Fillmore yet?
Comment by SarahW on 1/25 @ 2:03 pm #
Despite all the court ladies nods to Mrs. O’s style sense, she’s not getting copied. How dare anyone copy her for one, it just wouldn’t be right. Also she dresses like a large spider.
Comment by Carin on 1/25 @ 2:05 pm #
Wrong Cleo. Bush hate as a political movement is over. The minute he hopped on the helicopter, the sane leftist should have decided it was time to deal with the present.
Comment by Dan Collins on 1/25 @ 2:05 pm #
Holy nude Obama on a unicorn, you’re stupid, parsnip.
Comment by Semanticleo on 1/25 @ 2:05 pm #
“don’t forget this one, Sdferr. Is there any past President he can’t be?”
Buchanan or Hoover, perhaps. Are you too cynical to consider ’synchronicity’.
Comment by maggie katzen on 1/25 @ 2:06 pm #
hmmmm, I think I know what my series will be now….
Comment by JHoward on 1/25 @ 2:07 pm #
Nope.
But the question is (and was) do you? Judging by your Look Bunnies!™, I’d say yes, why yes you do.
Although admitting it is a step on the long road to recovery.
Comment by ThomasD on 1/25 @ 2:07 pm #
the sane leftist should have…
Who is this person you speak of?
Comment by parsnip on 1/25 @ 2:08 pm #
Haha, Sarah,
I think Michelle Obama being First Lady bugs you crackers more than Barack being President!
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 1/25 @ 2:09 pm #
Ah, yes. Millard Fillmore. Truly one of the greats, along with his successor, Buchanan.
You have to wonder, though, if those two would be as obscure as they are if they hadn’t been followed by Lincoln and the Civil War.
Comment by thor on 1/25 @ 2:09 pm #
Obama inspired art. Bush inspired terrorists.
Comment by B Moe on 1/25 @ 2:10 pm #
You don’t consider terrorists artists, thor? I am surprised.
Comment by slackjawedyokel on 1/25 @ 2:11 pm #
The best line I heard concerning M’chelle’s Inauguration fashion statement:
“She didn’t need a purse; she needed a couple of end tables.”
Comment by Sdferr on 1/25 @ 2:13 pm #
I lived in an apartment complex called Presidential Gardens, in which each building was named after a Prez. My building was Franklin Pierce, the 14th Prez who followed Fillmore. I wouldn’ta known him otherwise.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 1/25 @ 2:13 pm #
I just realized what that “art” brings to mind — the house style of Jehovah’s Witness publications. Look at some of those covers and tell me I’m wrong.
No offense intended to any JWs who might be reading this.
Comment by JHoward on 1/25 @ 2:14 pm #
How about I just call O!bama’s Network sub-par. Again.
Or if you prefer, media self-parody. It has to be.
And: Maybe not steep, ok? Marinate? Relish? (Pickle?) Luxuriate? Be saved? For it is to be O!ne.
Comment by parsnip on 1/25 @ 2:15 pm #
I thought it was just Darleen’s latest lame effort to steal neo neocon’s posting style.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 1/25 @ 2:15 pm #
Closeup of a JW image.
Comment by JHoward on 1/25 @ 2:16 pm #
I hear that ignored they just vanish. Ask WaPo.
Comment by AKA Pablo on 1/25 @ 2:17 pm #
I see a White House and I want to paint it black
Comment by Techie on 1/25 @ 2:18 pm #
Buchanan would never be “obscure”, as his is the only truly “failed” Presidency (zOMG I FORGOT BUSHitler!!11!) in American history.
The Union literally crumbled around him as he either made almost no attempt to stem the major trauma from the Dred Scot case, the Panic of 1857, his farcical attempt to invade Utah, the Bleeding Kansas years, John Brown’s raid on the arsenal in Harper’s Ferry, or basically standing slackjawed when South Carolina announced its secession on Dec 20, 1860.
Comment by SarahW on 1/25 @ 2:18 pm #
I do have an unreasonable fear of spiders, parnsip.
Comment by JHoward on 1/25 @ 2:20 pm #
Then look to Teh President, Sarah.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 1/25 @ 2:22 pm #
I see a White House and I want to paint it black
No colors any more, it is the time of B’rack
I saw Michelle go by dressed in her ugly clothes
Medusa’s twin sister, they are some ugly hos.
Comment by maggie katzen on 1/25 @ 2:24 pm #
On the day I was born,
Said my father, said he.
I’ve an an elegant legacy
Waitin’ for ye,
‘Tis a rhyme for your lips
And a song for your heart,
To sing it whenever
The world falls apart.
Look, look
Look to Obama.
Follow him over the hill
And the stream.
Look, look
Look to Obama.
Follow the fellow
Who follows a dream.
Follow the fellow,
Follow the fellow,
Follow the fellow
Who follows a dream.
Comment by AKA Pablo on 1/25 @ 2:27 pm #
Saul Alinsky taught him everything he needed to know. Now get out of the way cracker! Me and the unicorn have lives to save!
Comment by ushie on 1/25 @ 2:28 pm #
Semanticleo managed to peck out, in reply to: “Time to think up some new material, guysâ€Â
“not a chance. we’ll be dining on this for years, just to serve as a reminder to the likes of y’all. “Never Again’.”
A. Christ on a peanut butter cracker, ‘cleo, for godssakes, LET IT GO. Obsession is not pretty, I don’t care what Glenn Close told you.
2. “Never Again?” What. The. FUCK? Are you, in your clod-pated way, trying to compare Bush’s Administration to Hilter’s Holocaust? AGAIN? Venus on a Clamshell, try Cymbalta. Maybe that will help, because the Prozac and the Zoloft ain’t doin’ nothin’ for ya.
3. BE FUNNY, monkey. Amuse me. This is just annoying. You’re not trying hard enough. It’s like listening to Henny Youngman, and anticipating all the “Take my wife, please” jokes.
Comment by Dan Collins on 1/25 @ 2:33 pm #
You may wish to link this, too, Dar.
Comment by edo on 1/25 @ 2:33 pm #
So a guy is a “slick talker” if he is articulate in his native language; he’s a cult figure if people don’t hate his guts when he speaks in public (something Bush didn’t do for most of his presidencyâ€â€except to select groups of military folks and other completely captive audiences); he’s unable to defend America if he isn’t willing to lose two wars simultaneously; Bush is a regular guy because he has a little play ranch similar to Maire Antoinette’s farm at Versailles; and popularity is bad for a U.S. President. Got it.
I wouldn’t have booed Bush at the inauguration but I understand why other did. As I mentioned, he didn’t make himself available to the American people (and forget about Cheney) as public servants are obliged. I like what Dick Cavett has to say about it:
I felt bad when George Bush was booed.
But only briefly. My sympathy for that man has a half-life of about four seconds.
Comment by Dan Collins on 1/25 @ 2:34 pm #
ushie, all epithets that used to involve Christ now feature Obama. Just so you know.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 1/25 @ 2:34 pm #
Don’t give yourself a hernia setting up those straw men, edo.
Comment by Semanticleo on 1/25 @ 2:35 pm #
“LET IT GO.”
Exactly why it won’t be forgotten. You can’t spray termites once and conclude they are gone forever.
Comment by nikkolai on 1/25 @ 2:35 pm #
What percentage of Obama voters can we catagorize as “cultists”? Seems we have a few of them here.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 1/25 @ 2:36 pm #
BTW, edo: the United States won in Iraq.
Despite the best efforts of you, Your Personal Lord and Savior Barack Obama, and all your scurrilous little fellow travelers to make it otherwise.
Comment by Bob Reed on 1/25 @ 2:36 pm #
Boy, this is something…
The question of whether art is good or bad is always subjective; but creepy and obsessing can be factually gaged…
Most of this stuff would be hilarious if not for the creepy/obsessive/delusional factors…
Among my fave’s:
The 12 action figure of Obama with the twin katana’s, or some of the other poses where he’s flashing the hook-em-horns hand gesture, or pullin a Colt 1911; B-B-But he’s not about violence!1!1!!eleventy, man!…
or
The Chia-head Obama, that grows a ‘fro…Too bad he hasn’t worn one since thise photos of him blowin’ a “J” were took…
or
Him landing the plane in the Hudson River…Last time I checked, there wasn’t room for the flight crew, a unicorn, and a naked president on the flight deck of that Airbus model…I guess he means, “Obama is my co-pilot”…
or
The one where he’s triumphantly tackling the “Bear” market on Wall street…Too bad no one has told Lacy that the market has been effectively in a free fall since he took the nomination, but especially since he won the election…Yeah, but, inconvenient truths and stubborn facts aren’t often condusive to the vision the artist may want to present, are they…
or
New American Gothic; MMMMMMM, priceless…But there’s a terrible flaw; Blackie O! is smiling, and when there’s no schadenfreude none-the-less…Must be a form of artistic liscence…
and of course,
The Moveon.org, “Yes we did”, sticker is just too cool for school; but that’s exactly where you’ll see most of them…
I couldn’t stomach any more of them right now, but appreciate the link…
Exit question, though; Can anyone figure out why most of these are done in the style of socialist realism!?!
Just a coincidence maybe? Somehow I think not…
Oh, and remember, many of these artists are among the segment of the public that Obama’s buyin’ off with his wealth transfer scam that he’s calling a tax cut…
Another coincidence maybe..?
Comment by Semanticleo on 1/25 @ 2:36 pm #
“I wouldn’t have booed Bush at the inauguration”
It was bad form. I would have preferred the ’silent treatment’.
More respectful of those present, and clearer message to the recipient.
Comment by Dan Collins on 1/25 @ 2:37 pm #
Pokebama on a key ring, you’re stupid!
Comment by happyfeet on 1/25 @ 2:37 pm #
Baracky will talk and talk and talk and talk. Go with what you know is what he’ll do. Otherwise he’s just gonna spend monies and see what happens but it won’t be his fault whatever it is. Nothing will ever be his fault.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 1/25 @ 2:37 pm #
Barack H. Obama!
Obama on a bicyle!
It’s been that way since Obama was a corporal — er — community organizer.
Comment by Semanticleo on 1/25 @ 2:38 pm #
And i’m glad he wasn’t hit by the ’shoe’. It would have engendered inappropriate sympathy.
I prefer a pie-in-the-face.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 1/25 @ 2:38 pm #
Bob, did you see the link to the Chia Obama in the other thread? It really exists.
These people are beyond parody.
Comment by nikkolai on 1/25 @ 2:40 pm #
That they are beyond parody makes them dangerous.
Comment by AKA Pablo on 1/25 @ 2:45 pm #
Uh, no. He’s a cult figure when people fucking worship him. The ironic thing is that for all the suggestion that Bush supporters did that, you can’t find anything akin to the Obama worship we can find in more places than I can count.
You’ve got a rude awakening coming, edo.
Comment by Mossberg500 on 1/25 @ 2:52 pm #
Michelle O! dresses like Re-run on What’s Happening!
Comment by Darleen on 1/25 @ 2:54 pm #
he’s a cult figure if people don’t hate his guts when he speaks in public
Um, no. Edo, there are Hollywood celebs who say on video that they will be a servant to Obama.
Not a good citizen to the country or the Constitution, but a worshipful acolyte to Obama.
And so-called “journalists” who now say it is their JOB to support the Obama administration and make sure it is successful.
…. did you spell your name wrong? shouldn’t it be EMO?
Comment by Darleen on 1/25 @ 2:59 pm #
Cleo
GW was your president just as Obama is mine. There was no “worship” of GW no matter how you want to spin those of us that supported him when he was right and criticized him when he was wrong.
You all sneered when GW said “I’m the decider” but not a peep from you about “I won. I trump you.”
48% of the voters did NOT vote for The One. I haven’t seen anything yet (behavior, not words) that He even thinks they exist for Him.
Comment by ushie on 1/25 @ 3:01 pm #
Semanticleo tries my nearly-infinaite patience by blithering: “And i’m glad he wasn’t hit by the ’shoe’. It would have engendered inappropriate sympathy.
I prefer a pie-in-the-face.”
Michelle on a Scallop Shell, ‘cleo, it’s ALL RUDE. Who do you think you are, Larry, Moe, or Curly? You’re STILL. Not. FUNNY!
Obama on a Garden Stake, ‘cleo, do you open and close doors over and over? Count parking meters? collapse on the floor if someone moves a tsotchke slightly? I understand Carrie Fisher recommend electroshock therapy. Maybe you should give it a try?
Comment by Bob Reed on 1/25 @ 3:02 pm #
Un.Effin’.Believable. SBP, Mind Boggling…
Fact truly is stranger than fiction!
Comment by Semanticleo on 1/25 @ 3:17 pm #
“You’re STILL. Not. FUNNY!”
My level of interest in your notion of humor is even lower than my interest in making jokes about serious matters. Who said I was trying to be funny? Is it because your reality set requires you to take, as humorous, any expressions which denude our beloved former Presidunce of any credibility garments which can be seen by the human eye? Is criticisms of his lack of curiosity and mental fog so foreign to your cognitives that any negative assessment of your Idiot Bastard Son MUST have its foundation in jokeland?
Go fuck yerself, Pilgrim…..
Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/25 @ 3:19 pm #
Ya know, it strikes me that a cult of personality doesn’t necessarily mean the cult object is the target of positive feelings. I submit that the left’s attitude towards Bush is also a cult of personality — but a demonization rather than a veneration.
Very, very few on the right ever thought of Bush as anything but a human being — flawed, operating from incomplete knowledge. All the instances lefties have pointed to (that I’ve seen) as “Bush worship” have turned out to be lefties incapable of comprehending members of their very own culture — a fact that calls into question their self-proclaimed ability to transcend culture.
No, the kitsch art and iconography about Bush came from the left. It was a virtual cottage industry — books, movies, posters, pins, shirts, art exhibits… Bush is their Emmanuel Goldstein.
At least, for the moment.
Comment by B Moe on 1/25 @ 3:23 pm #
Awwwww. ‘Cleo is doing his little thor impression! Isn’t that just the cutest!
Comment by ushie on 1/25 @ 3:24 pm #
“My level of interest in your notion of humor is even lower than my interest in making jokes about serious matters. Who said I was trying to be funny? Is it because your reality set requires you to take, as humorous, any expressions which denude our beloved former Presidunce of any credibility garments which can be seen by the human eye? Is criticisms of his lack of curiosity and mental fog so foreign to your cognitives that any negative assessment of your Idiot Bastard Son MUST have its foundation in jokeland?”
There you go! Now I’m laughing so hard there are tears in my eyes. Oh, MAN, thank you for that!
Comment by happyfeet on 1/25 @ 3:26 pm #
I still think Bush was a really good president no matter what Semanticleo person says. I miss him already.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/25 @ 3:35 pm #
That bit you quote, ushie, makes me more sure of my theory — the belief that Bush is stupid is a matter of faith. The evidence is exactly the opposite, but to admit that would endanger their mental images of him and themselves. Bush makes decisions they do not agree with, so therefore he must be stupid, because no one intelligent could ever disagree with them!
The possibility he made decisions with information they do not have, or that he weighted issues differently than they would, cannot be considered, because that would open the possibility of their being wrong, and of Bush not being a monster.
It’s really quite terrifying how insulated and cultish the left has become.
Comment by thor on 1/25 @ 3:35 pm #
I’ll throw a shoe at ya, Happy, in honor of the good old days.
Comment by happyfeet on 1/25 @ 3:42 pm #
But then you would be missing a shoe. There’s just a lot of customs what come from that part of the world what show a demonstrable lack of foresight I think. But for real, do you really think things get better cause of Baracky and his friends Harry and Nancy making policies and stuff? I just don’t see it. I think a lot of nice people are gonna get hurt and it makes me feel sad. Also that whole global warming thing drives me bonkers.
Comment by Sdferr on 1/25 @ 3:43 pm #
Wasn’t the global warming thing intended to drive you (and everyone else) bonkers? I mean, so it’s working.
Comment by happyfeet on 1/25 @ 3:51 pm #
The people what get on board with it are ridiculous and it’s awkward as all get out to even be around them. Predictable little squawk monkeys. Say “I need a new car” and in seconds one of these concerned citizens are all “you should get a hybrid.” I live two blocks from work. Are they that retarded or do they just not think?
Comment by Sdferr on 1/25 @ 3:52 pm #
And both.
Comment by Bob Reed on 1/25 @ 3:52 pm #
“he’s unable to defend America if he isn’t willing to lose two wars simultaneously…”
This just in edo, we’ve won in Iraq, and would have so already in Afghanistan if NATO hadn’t been so involved…
“Bush is a regular guy because he has a little play ranch similar to Maire Antoinette’s farm at Versailles…”
But, the one!, is a regular guy because he has his play mansion in Chicago; regular guys get sweetheart deals from crooked realestate developers, and sweetheart mortgage rates, all the time in Chi-town…
“As I mentioned, he didn’t make himself available to the American people (and forget about Cheney) as public servants are obliged…”
Let’s see how much the messiah makes himself available, really available, to the press as well as the public; and none of these pre-determined questioners and 5 question press conferences either…
edo, somehow you are still suffering from acute BDS. Here’s an important news flash; Boooooosh! is no longer president…Find a new object to focus your hate on, will you…
Oh, and, by the way, you are a propagandistic, lying, asshat
Comment by Sdferr on 1/25 @ 3:54 pm #
Carole Browner is the Energy and Environment Czar. Or should that be Tsaritsa?
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 1/25 @ 3:56 pm #
“Obama inspired art. Bush inspired terrorists.”
Fuck, thor. Don’t try to outstupid cleo and alphie. You can’t do it. BTW, terrorists have been around for ages. They’re inspired by one man and his name is muhammed. Obama has inspired young blacks and that’s cool, but if he inspired anyone else (blank slate and all) then they were probably brain dead twits to begin with.
Comment by Tony LaVanway on 1/25 @ 4:02 pm #
What the hell,do you think a Pres should wear
in a jetfighter, a mini-skirt and clogs?
Im not sure,but, I think its mandatory to wear a flight suit,riding in a jetfighter.
tony
south haven,mi
Comment by AKA Pablo on 1/25 @ 4:09 pm #
Obama inspired performance art.
Comment by Bob Reed on 1/25 @ 4:15 pm #
Sdferr,
I believe the term is “Tsarina”
TonyLaVanway,
Take it from an old hand, it is Navy SOP to wear the ol’ nomex one piece when operating military aircraft. Oh, and as for all the “codpiece” references I’m hearing? That’s due to his saftey gear leg straps, you ignorant boobs…
You must have been fixated on that area, and wallowing in your penis envy to even comment on such a thing…
Comment by Bob Reed on 1/25 @ 4:17 pm #
TonyLaVanaway,
Please don’t get the wrong impression. I wasn’t referring to you with my additional troll-codpiece-commentary refutation. I simply forgot to hit the carriage return…
Best Wishes
Comment by Tony LaVanway on 1/25 @ 4:29 pm #
I read a book(can’t remember title),that the early chutes were realy bad,around the groin strap.The “horse kicked me in the nads-bad”
I used to help on a horse farm,in my early-days.
Horse Kick+Nads=Crappy day
Fuc&^%s did it on purpose
tony
south haven,mi
Comment by Tony LaVanway on 1/25 @ 4:31 pm #
no prob
tony
Comment by AKA Pablo on 1/25 @ 4:33 pm #
And I thought I was old. :-)
Comment by SSG RaTsO - Proud to be ODD! on 1/25 @ 4:34 pm #
Interesting. The “Greener Pastures” have crumbled off the clif and are falling into the White House moat.
Is that wooden suspension bridge what the President has in mind for replacing our “crumbling infrasturucture?”
Comment by Bob Reed on 1/25 @ 4:35 pm #
Tony,
They aren’t as bad these days, a little uncomfortable but you get used to it…
They did warn us that it would be much worse if the straps weren’t tightened properly though…
Admittedly, and thank God for it, I never had to punch out…
One of my shipmates did though, and while it was definately a, ahem, memorable experience, he never mentioned anything about crushed nutz…
Best Wishes
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 1/25 @ 4:36 pm #
Very, very few on the right ever thought of Bush as anything but a human being
Sure. Bush has done tons of stuff that I don’t like.
They’re in a cult, so they assume that we must be in a cult as well. They simply can’t imagine any other state of affairs.
Comment by Bob Reed on 1/25 @ 4:37 pm #
Pablo,
I guess I should update my lexicon to reflect the situation, eh?
Carriage return = exxed!
Comment by Jeffersonian on 1/25 @ 4:48 pm #
The Left has gone insane. Deeply, disturbingly, verifiably insane. Bereft of belief in the Divine, they worship their earthly idol in the form of Obama, who is, or should be, little more than the hired help.
God help us all.
Comment by guinsPen on 1/25 @ 4:50 pm #
the ’silent treatment’
Yo ‘tic, if only.
Comment by parsnip on 1/25 @ 4:56 pm #
we’ve won in Iraq
Haha, Bob…just like McCain won last November!
Comment by AKA Pablo on 1/25 @ 4:59 pm #
Where would you get a demented notion like that, snippy? And why is it that you think Geert Wilders is a racist?
Comment by Darleen on 1/25 @ 5:00 pm #
forgot to hit the carriage return
Oh lordy, Bob, you’re now gonna have to explain that to the youts around here! ;-)
Comment by parsnip on 1/25 @ 5:06 pm #
Geert Wilders wants to outlaw the Koran, Pablum.
And if we’ve “won” the Iraq war, why are our troops still there, fightin’ and dyin’?
That has to be the lamest wingnut talking point since Fatty Limbaugh tried to blame our current depression on Obama.
Of course, if you guys have given up trying to win elections, what does it matter, right?
Comment by Darleen on 1/25 @ 5:12 pm #
If we “won” WWII, why are our troops still in Germany and Japan?
If we “won” the Korean war, why are our troops in South Korea?
Comment by parsnip on 1/25 @ 5:15 pm #
That’s a very good question, Darleen.
My guess is to make it easier for Republican war profiteers to fleece the American taxpayers.
Comment by BuddyPC on 1/25 @ 5:16 pm #
26. Comment by Techie on 1/25 @ 1:51 pm #
BTW, how many hours has THE ONE logged? It must have been intensive training and quick action that saved all those USAir passengers when he LANDED THE AIRBUS IN THE HUDSON RIVER.
(Who is buying this shit?)
Same folks who sprung for the Inauguration. Not high rollers, as we’ve been told for twelve months. 160 million at 200 bucks a pop, that’s a potential market of at least 800,000 aesthetes.
Comment by BuddyPC on 1/25 @ 5:19 pm #
Forget the country clubs in Germany; when do we get to roll up the rug and come home from the Balkans?
One year, said William Perry and John Shalikshavilli back in 95.
Comment by B Moe on 1/25 @ 5:22 pm #
My guess is to make it easier for Republican war profiteers to fleece the American taxpayers.
You might want to quit guessing and actually try to learn something tuber. It has worked for others.
Comment by Bob Reed on 1/25 @ 5:36 pm #
Darleen,
I’d have to start by explaing what a typewriter was, darlin’…
Anachronistic, much like I fear my values have become…
Remember carbon paper?
Comment by SarahW on 1/25 @ 5:43 pm #
I have to confess I would pay money for this.
Comment by SSG RaTsO - Proud to be ODD! on 1/25 @ 5:52 pm #
Karl Rove made FDR and Truman get involved in WWII and Korea so Republican warmongers could profit.
Comment by Bob Reed on 1/25 @ 5:57 pm #
parsnip,
You never answered my questions yesterday evening, and therefore are merely an instigating interloper; uninterested in any real discussion but simply practicing the Alinsky rules like your messiah…
1) More Americans die violent deaths per month in the wonderfully diverse cities of Chicago, NY, LA, and DC than do our soldiers per month in Iraq. So you’re lying about that point.
2) Even the NYT and WaPo admit the war is over and we’ve won. Holding your fingers in your ears and sophmorically repeating something akin to, “la-la-la-you’re-wrong-I-can’t-hear-you-la-la-la” won’t change that fact; or the fact that it was deemed to have been won before O! took office…
3) Check out a chart of the DJIA before you talk nonsense about depressions and who’s fault it is. At the end of may, before Obama’s nomination it was about 12600. In Nov after his election it was around 9600. January 23, 09 close was around 8100. It seems to me ever since it became clear he would be in the running, or might become president, the market been on the schnide. The idea of President Obama has crushed the stock market. Of course, the optimist in me says it can’t go much lower, but who knows? With the one! all things are possible…
4) His New new deal will seal the fate on our economy, and truly send usinto a prolonged downturn, much like FDR’s original New Deal did. And all his spending will crush the dollar’s value, regardless of how often he sonorously repeats that he’s for a strong dollar.
He knows about as much as you do when it comes to economics and national security; and that’s downright horrifying…
parsnip, I spoke to you out of simple human respect, but this is the last time. While you are entitled to your opinion, so lon as it is informed, mind you, you never actually engage in discussions; but simply attemot to toss about what you believe are pithy barbs-protected by the internets fog of anonymity. Unless you start answering questions and backing up your arguments, we all can only conclude that you’re here to derail otherwise thoughtful discussions…
And if that’s the case, I for one will never answer your asinine assertions again…
Comment by nikkolai on 1/25 @ 6:04 pm #
Bob Reed:
parsnip = alphie = actus and others. It is not a thinking organism. It is more like a fungus of some sort. Better to ignore it.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 1/25 @ 6:07 pm #
Bob, you are a wonderful, wonderful good hearted man. Mad props to you and your carriage return. Seriously.
Comment by Carin on 1/25 @ 6:11 pm #
I remember carbon paper and carriage returns. I remember when they came up with those typewriters that could erase typos automatically. What a thing they were.
Comment by Bob Reed on 1/25 @ 6:14 pm #
Carin,
When could a lovely young’n like yourself have ever been exposed to such archaic devices..? At a museaum perhaps?
Or are thing as bad in Detroit as I’ve been led to believe..?
Comment by Carin on 1/25 @ 6:20 pm #
Well, Detroit does have the Henry Ford where such arcane devices can be found, I unfortunately have used a typewriter. I went to college with a typewriter, and left with one of the first Mac computers made :)
Comment by parsnip on 1/25 @ 6:29 pm #
Bob,
I usually stop reading threads after they get stale.
What was your question?
Comment by B Moe on 1/25 @ 6:32 pm #
It looks like Biden is planning on losing Afghanistan now, tuberhead.
Comment by B Moe on 1/25 @ 6:33 pm #
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/01/vp-biden-expect.html
Comment by guinsPen on 1/25 @ 6:37 pm #
My guess is to make it easier for Republican war profiteers to fleece the American taxpayers.
My guess is because Republicans refused to invest in Balloon Fences, “and as the elders of our time choose to remain blind, let us rejoice and let us sing, and dance, and ring in the new…
Hail Alphactus !”
Comment by serr8d on 1/25 @ 6:38 pm #
Heh. I linked ‘em a couple, including this one. It’s awaiting moderation.
I doubt it seriously.. )
Comment by parsnip on 1/25 @ 6:38 pm #
Afghanistan was lost the day we invaded it on the cheap, B Moe.
Don’t go blamin’ Biden for mistakes made over 7 years ago.
Comment by Carin on 1/25 @ 6:41 pm #
Snippy’s an expert on our military experience in Afghanistan now. IS THERE NOTHING HE DOESN’T KNOW?
Either that, or he’s merely repeating the liberal meme he read at Huffpo/Kos/Atrios …
Comment by Darleen on 1/25 @ 6:46 pm #
uh, Bob, not only do I remember carbon paper, but memeograph machines
and I learned shorthand … Gregg Diamond Jubilee
yikes
Comment by B Moe on 1/25 @ 6:47 pm #
Afghanistan was lost the day we invaded it on the cheap….
What!?! On the CHEAP??? Where were the greedy war profiteers when we needed them?
Comment by Darleen on 1/25 @ 6:51 pm #
I remember when they came up with those typewriters that could erase typos
IBM Selectrics
Some IBM Executives, too, but they were trickier because many of the letters had different width values… so if one accidently typed an “i” where a “w” was supposed to go you were out of luck
plus if you were making colored-tissue carbon copies, you had just be a really error free typist. No boss allowed more than a couple of corrections on a business letter.
Comment by geoffb on 1/25 @ 6:56 pm #
Considering what is happening in the economy these paintings may be a fair investment opportunity. Imagine how much you could get now for an original oil of St. James of Carter, in full armor, on his mighty steed, his shining paddle raised to strike, battling the ferocious bunny.
Comment by geoffb on 1/25 @ 6:59 pm #
The rich full smell of Memeo fluid just before taking a test.
Comment by Techie on 1/25 @ 7:03 pm #
How are war profiteers supposed to make all that blood money invading “on the cheap”?’
Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/25 @ 7:07 pm #
Snippy — as he made clear in his myriad of previous incarnations — believes the invasion of Afghanistan should have resembled D-Day. He thinks we relied too much on the “wogs”, and has been lectured — repeatedly — as to the logistical and diplomatic problems with placing a larger force in Afghanistan.
Comment by B Moe on 1/25 @ 7:19 pm #
Snippy  as he made clear in his myriad of previous incarnations  believes the invasion of Afghanistan should have resembled D-Day.
I must admit building a beach in Afghanistan would be fairly expensive.
Comment by guinsPen on 1/25 @ 7:28 pm #
What if we Ballooned our supplies in?
Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/25 @ 7:28 pm #
Never mind the canal to get all the landing craft up through Pakistan. The cost of the locks to get them over the Hindu Kush would have made the bailout look like chump-change.
Comment by parsnip on 1/25 @ 7:30 pm #
Careful guys,
Bob said PW is a beacon of rational discourse.
Your Forrest Gump imitations are staining that reputation.
Comment by Techie on 1/25 @ 7:42 pm #
I dunno, I think we could have sent them all over in shipping containers, hiding tanks and squadrons separately until enough are stacked at Afghanistan’s numerous port cities.
Then, once the signal is give, they all stream out, taking the Taliban entirely by surprise.
Comment by Techie on 1/25 @ 7:42 pm #
“given”
Comment by Bob Reed on 1/25 @ 7:56 pm #
parsnip,
here’s a couple:
http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=14171#comment-637778
http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=14171#comment-637798
http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=14171#comment-637808
There are 3 from yesterday alone…
You commented twice more after the first two were posed; Was the thread dead then?
Comment by parsnip on 1/25 @ 7:59 pm #
Bob, I’m sorry, people who turn over their lives to some imaginary monkey in the sky are, IMHO, just too silly to take seriously.
Think about it…there can be no such thing as a rational discussion about religion.
Comment by JHoward on 1/25 @ 8:20 pm #
Think about it…there can be no such thing as a rational discussion about not seeking.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 1/25 @ 8:21 pm #
My computer still has a Return key.
Comment by parsnip on 1/25 @ 8:31 pm #
Well, JHo,
I’d be happy to discuss religion within the general context of all imaginary beings such as Big Foot, the Loch Ness Monster, Little Green Men, Fiscal Consevatives, etc.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/25 @ 8:32 pm #
Think about it…there can be no such thing as a rational discussion with alphie/actus/parsnip.
Comment by Swen Swenson on 1/25 @ 8:33 pm #
First thing that sprang into my mind on reading that comment was a vision of a rusty Lincoln up on blocks in the alley.
Okay, I denounce myself for even thinking such a thing.. But it did have very tasteful leopard-print upholstery.
…
What!?
Comment by Big D on 1/25 @ 8:37 pm #
“Bob, I’m sorry, people who turn over their lives to some imaginary monkey in the sky are, IMHO, just too silly to take seriously”
Well then, it’s a good thing for you that O! has never attended a church. Oh, wait…
Does this mean you don’t take Barky seriously?
Comment by JHoward on 1/25 @ 8:42 pm #
I’ll bet you would, snippy, for limiting the Bunnies to Over There! is your only style and entertainment.
Unfortunately:
Capable. Unless we choose otherwise. Read the whole thing, snippy. And the whole blog, for it is a veritable gift to a malnourished soul, if it could only see it.
There are those who, dare I say it, crap bigger than you.
Comment by parsnip on 1/25 @ 8:50 pm #
JHo,
Your guy makes about as much sense as Fatty Limbaugh does when he’s explaining why a few ass pimples kept him from going to Vietnam.
How about digging up someone along the lines of a Pascal?
Comment by Swen Swenson on 1/25 @ 8:56 pm #
Nothing wrong with having a healthy respect for spiders SarahW. I’d rather be bit by a cottonmouth than a brown recluse.
Wait. Is it still okay to say “brown recluse”, or will people automatically assume you’re making a veiled reference to …?
Okay, I’m being naughty but, a black velvet naked Oh? on a unicorn? Obama-on-a-crutch but that’s gonna put my mind’s eye out. Don’t know what it says about Teh One’s disciples, but the artist sure has a low opinion of them if he thinks they’ll buy that. OTOH, they’ve proven themselves willing to buy most anything, haven’t they?
Comment by Semanticleo on 1/25 @ 8:58 pm #
“There are those who, dare I say it, crap bigger than you.”
That’s engineering 101 Howie. If yer craphole has been widened by yer cellmates, it stands to reason yer crap thinks size matters.
Comment by SSG RaTsO - Proud to be ODD! on 1/25 @ 9:07 pm #
So religion is now imaginary. Interesting.
Comment by B Moe on 1/25 @ 9:18 pm #
I think we could have sent them all over in shipping containers, hiding tanks and squadrons separately until enough are stacked at Afghanistan’s numerous port cities.
Or just outsourced the whole thing and let them do it. They are right there after all.
Comment by B Moe on 1/25 @ 9:19 pm #
To China, I mean.
Comment by AKA Pablo on 1/25 @ 9:20 pm #
Yeah. But why is he a racist? Are you saying that his animus toward Islam makes him a racist?
Are you a racist too, snippy?It seems that you must be, what with your religious bigotry. Sort of a left wing Geert Wilders, ain’t you?
Comment by buzz on 1/25 @ 9:20 pm #
“Think about it…there can be no such thing as a rational discussion about religion.”
Right. Let’s instead have rational discussions about mile high burms and balloon fences.
Just because YOU can’t have a rational discussion about religion (or anything, really) does not follow that no one can have that rational discussion.
Comment by B Moe on 1/25 @ 9:24 pm #
Really, tuber, it seems like you hate all religions except Islam.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 1/25 @ 9:28 pm #
Snippy sounds like this guy who told me about when he laid out reality for his very-religious parents. He told them it was all a charade, that God doesn’t exist and that death was the end of all things. He was a Wall Street corporate raider back then, but today’s our Rector, and as stalwart a Christian as you will ever meet.
If you think hard about the Apostles and their actions, it’s hard to disbelieve in Jesus Christ, really.
Comment by Bob Reed on 1/25 @ 9:34 pm #
parsnip,
You still dodged my questions, which were not about the nature of religion; I’ll bet you didn’t even read them. I told you how I would react to that eventuality and to your interloping..
My closing word to you has to do with Pascal, who you mentioned; I encourage you to take his wager!
As the Jews would say, “You are dead to me”…
Comment by parsnip on 1/25 @ 9:36 pm #
I find religious a good joke, Pablo.
Like a Seinfeld episode.
I just don’t see how you can rationally discuss it…either you believe or you don’t.
There’s nothing rational about it.
B Moe, Islam, Christianity and Judaism are all the same religion, really.
Why would I single out Islam?
Comment by AKA Pablo on 1/25 @ 9:37 pm #
So you’re a racist then, snippy? Come on. You can tell us.
Comment by B Moe on 1/25 @ 9:44 pm #
B Moe, Islam, Christianity and Judaism are all the same religion, really.
Why would I single out Islam?
I don’t know, why do you? Steyn and Wilders both faced charges for far less inflammatory rhetoric than you have been spewing, and you condemned them. Why is hate speech against Christianity okay for you, but criticism of Islam is out of bounds. You are the one doing it, you must answer the question why?
Comment by AKA Pablo on 1/25 @ 9:46 pm #
Free bigotry for me, not for thee, B Moe. snippy is a good racist.
Comment by parsnip on 1/25 @ 9:50 pm #
I condemned Steyn as a moron, B Moe, not as a racist.
I don’t want to ban religion, I just think it’s a joke.
However, if anyone wants to offer up some factual proof of the existence of god…feel free.
As Ross Perot famously said, I’m all ears.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 1/25 @ 9:51 pm #
As I said, Snippy, look at the Apostles and what they did before and after the crucifixion. It’s all there.
Comment by buzz on 1/25 @ 9:51 pm #
“I just don’t see how you can rationally discuss it…either you believe or you don’t.”
I feel that way about string theory. Therefore following your methodology, theoretical physics doesn’t exist. Or is a joke.
Comment by AKA Pablo on 1/25 @ 9:59 pm #
Oh, that’s easy. Duh.
Comment by B Moe on 1/25 @ 10:00 pm #
tuberhead is lying sack of shit who pretends he doesn’t understand the argument rather than admit he is an America hating prick who will side with any dirt bag who makes the US look bad. You are a despicable little worm.
Comment by Techie on 1/25 @ 11:15 pm #
BMoe, we’d established that years ago.
Comment by maggie katzen on 1/25 @ 11:30 pm #
but.. but… only 6% of Americans say they don’t believe in God.
Comment by maggie katzen on 1/25 @ 11:31 pm #
grrr, it eated my link… here
Comment by SSG RaTsO - Proud to be ODD! on 1/25 @ 11:55 pm #
It’s pointless to debate this with it.
It has failed, utterly, to grasp the concept of religion. Any attempt at a conversation will fail due to a common vocabulary signifying completely different things.
That’s generally true of almost every other subject it choses to blather about as well.
Comment by Challeron on 1/25 @ 11:56 pm #
Who created the Big Bang, ’snip? And where was he/she/it standing when it was created?
Comment by thor on 1/26 @ 4:00 am #
Atoms.
They were having an orgy, not simply standing, hence the bang.
Comment by nikkolai on 1/26 @ 5:08 am #
Who created the atoms, dumbass?
Comment by Challeron on 1/26 @ 5:15 am #
Insufficient answer, thor. (Cute, but insufficient.)
There were no atoms in this Universe before the Big Bang, and Hawking refuted his own theory of a Singularity, thereby denying that the material could have come from anywhere else.
And I’d really like to see parsnip’s answer, since he posed the question: There is no “proof” of God, there is only faith; yet there is no more than faith that some “big bang” — somewhere — produced what we call the Universe.
So, where did the damn place come from?…
Comment by thor on 1/26 @ 5:38 am #
Since Obama is God, I think atoms do a lot of touching, kissing and even fisting one another.
Fox News, you gotta love ‘em.
Comment by Challeron on 1/26 @ 6:17 am #
Ah, thor, you sidetrack so often, there is little wonder why no one takes you seriously….
Comment by JHoward on 1/26 @ 6:59 am #
But tubor positively soars in what Godwin calls, rightly, the vertical. tubor soars at the level of baseboards, surveying carpeting, gazing introspectively at corner-lint.
And you think the relativism and sociopathy of morally horizontal radicalism somehow escapes him? Ha. He alone defends it here, in this unholy place.
tubor’s very grasp of the finer points of two point five inches makes him a master. Of his domain.
Comment by JHoward on 1/26 @ 7:13 am #
Yep. snot-drinker is also probably absolutely sure that’s not absolute, buzz. Allow me to preemptively name-call you for suggesting that particular reality about snot-drinker. You beast. You realist.
The universe is based either on faith — stuff only does what it does because it does it — or it’s turtles all the way down…or faith.
snot-drinker (and apparently thor; gosh!) cannot abide granting credence to the property of principle in humanity. It doesn’t exist because to do so violates their lack of same. It doesn’t exist because (and get this) when man comes to the inevitable conclusion that he hasn’t created What Created Him, he creates the structure that the Universe makes him create: An edifice to “God”, if done right, one yet to be refuted by the same logic he applies with and to science. And if done poorly, one to his own failed devices, to wit, the contents of snot-drinker’s limited outlook.
And science can’t explain so much as matter, energy, or origins, or existence. Those abstracts (yes, matter and energy are abstracts, properties, states) lie in another domain entirely. They do what they do, outside of the influence of Newtonian cause and effect.
Ergo: snot-drinker merely drags everyone down to it’s level, arguing precisely for exactly what it argues against. What a revelation.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/26 @ 8:22 am #
Which, by snippy’s previous arguments, means he’s WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!1!!
Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/26 @ 8:27 am #
“Never argue with a moron. They’ll drag you down to their level and beat you on experience.”
Comment by Challeron on 1/26 @ 11:28 am #
Well, y’see, Rob, I’m not trying to argue with parsnip; he asked what he thought was an unanswerable question, and I simply replied in the form of the theory that Ric Locke suggested a while back, which was that people like parsnip cannot grasp certain concepts because they don’t have the necessary point of view (something like that). Therefore, I replied to parsnip’s question with a POV that he doesn’t have, i.e., that the existence of “god” doesn’t have to be proven if there is no way to prove that “god” does not exist.
I only wish to determine if parsnip can “think outside the box”, if Ric was right that trollish behavior was a mere limitation of knowledge (or perhaps processing ability) — i.e., that they “don’t know any better” because they’re either ignorant or immature.
I did notice, on a thread that Malaclypse The Tertiary had written extensively upon, that cynn was at least intrigued enough by what Mal had said that she was willing to think beyond her own perceptions.
How about you, parsnip? Do you endlessly repeat Da Troof because it’s all you can accept, or because it’s all you want to accept?…
Comment by Challeron on 1/26 @ 11:48 am #
And by the way, boys and girls, I believe that “god” was a pyrotechnician (hence the Big Bang) who is sitting back with an eternal beer and watching the fireworks; not some Old White Guy who walked through the Garden Of Eden raising Mud into Man. YMMV.
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Comment by SporkLift Driver on 1/27 @ 8:34 pm #
Shorter Cleo
“I got nothing, you know i got nothing, and I know you know I got nothing”
Don’t project your daddy issues on us Cleo.