… I live in California.
At least I was born in Los Angeles, not in the People’s Republic of San Francisco. First the headline:
Study Critical of San Francisco Surveillance Cameras
Now the doah!! moment:
SAN FRANCISCO (KCBS) — San Francisco’s surveillance cameras in high-crime areas do not prevent violent crime, according to a new study by researchers at the University of California.The long-awaited study by the UC Center for Information Technology Research in the Interest of Society found the program is hurt by lack of training and oversight, a failure to integrate footage with other police efforts, poor quality cameras, and what may be a fundamental weakness of cameras as anti-crime devices.
Mayor Newsom began the program four years ago, but out of concern for people’s privacy, police are not allowed to monitor cameras in real time. Investigators must wait until a crime is reported before looking at footage.
Just another excuse to change the license plates on the car and slip out of state.
Comment by daleyrocks on 1/12 @ 11:53 pm #
“police are not allowed to monitor cameras in real time. Investigators must wait until a crime is reported before looking at footage.”
Yup, the cameras don’t fucking work all right!
A fool with a tool is still a fool.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 1/13 @ 12:23 am #
Mayor Newsom began the program four years ago, but out of concern for people’s privacy, police are not allowed to monitor cameras in real time. Investigators must wait until a crime is reported before looking at footage.
So glad we paid big bucks for this worthless, inane bullshit nothingness.
Say, is the camera contractor related to a Newsome squeeze? Is that is?
Comment by dicentra on 1/13 @ 12:24 am #
Like those morons who buy the full Adobe desktop publishing suite and still crank out handouts that look like bad mimeographs.
Or in other words, like mimeographs.
This just in: Folded umbrellas do not keep the rain off.
Comment by JohnAnnArbor on 1/13 @ 12:33 am #
I remember getting into some big cyber-argument over a proposal to use face-recognition software and surveillance cams to look for known criminals. I pointed out it was only automating the normal process of distributing suspect photos to officers (and sometimes, the public) and hoping they spot the bad guy. Oh, no, was the reply: civil liberties were at stake!
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 1/13 @ 12:34 am #
It also reminds me of all these so called “green” cities replacing working parking meters for new fangled parking machines that are not only not user friendly, but use a million times more “resources” in the form of energy and paper and ink than those old crank meters.
Green people do not know the concept of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”
They have the mindset to spend millions of dollars and natural resources to remodel their homes to be bamboo and green friendly.
Comment by Daryl Herbert on 1/13 @ 1:51 am #
Cameras only work if crimes captured on video lead to arrests.
Comment by Mossberg500 on 1/13 @ 2:56 am #
Two words, Gavin Newsome.
Comment by Rusty on 1/13 @ 5:59 am #
I kinda like the fact that the homeless in LaMesa sleep in the park directly across the street from the police station. Every other city has pigeons.
Comment by Mr. Bingley on 1/13 @ 6:07 am #
Cameras taking pictures that no one is allowed to look at.
Brilliant.
Comment by serr8d on 1/13 @ 7:19 am #
When I lived in Arizona, the inhabitants of that once-Great State used to hate it when California had earthquakes. Every time one happened, more of THEM would move to Arizona.
Now, it hardly matters. Arizona is forever changed, assimilated by overexposure to the eastward drifting of fruits and flakes.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/13 @ 7:22 am #
“Comment by Mr. Bingley on 1/13 @ 6:07 am #
Cameras taking pictures that no one is allowed to look at.
Brilliant.”
Reactionary left liberalism in a nutshell.
Comment by Patrick Carroll on 1/13 @ 7:28 am #
So, will all of y’all who’re fleeing California stay the hell out of Jawja. We really don’ need yer socialist ways. We’re happy enough bein’ moonshinin’, banjo playin’ crackers who pay almost no taxes to the State Gu’mint, and suffer almost no regulation in return.
Y’all taxed and regulated y’selves into a Terminator-overseen Judgment Day, and we don’ need any of that shit.
Stay the hell out of Jawja, y’hear?
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In all seriousness, I truly hope that the people currently fleeing California are producers in favor of low taxes and low regulation, not looters in favor of high taxes and high regulation. No doubt I will be disappointed.
I remember, years ago, having a conversation with a Canadian woman, come south to work at BNR in Norcross, GA. She was living in Forsyth County, and while she appreciated the low taxes, she bemoaned the lack of government (taxpayer-funded) services. Though fairly smart, the link between government services and taxes apparently had not occurred to her. One day she remarked to me that she couldn’t wait for the day that Forsyth County had enough people who thought like her, so they could completely change the county.
Fortunately, Northern Telecom (majority owner of BNR) went Tango Uniform and had to shut down operations in Georgia – an importation of Canadians – before she could get her wish. That was a near miss, let me tell you.
For myself, I live in DeKalb County, and we have enough looters already, thanks very much.
Comment by Pablo on 1/13 @ 7:38 am #
Looks like you’re not the only one thinking about heading for the exit. I’ve been gone 9 years now. Time sure flies.
Comment by McGehee on 1/13 @ 7:53 am #
I left California 15 years ago. Since then it’s been like being on that George Pal rocket watching the alien world smash into the earth.
Comment by Ric Locke on 1/13 @ 8:06 am #
#12 Patrick: no, people leaving California aren’t in favor of high taxes and high regulation. But they are in favor of massive, convenient, and pervasive Government services, and they do not make the connection between one and the other. To them, large organizations like Government and big corporations don’t have or need a source for the money they spend — they simply have money, and should spend it to make the People’s lives easier and better. Like your Canadian friend, they will cheerfully and forcefully campaign and vote for bigger and better Government services, and are surprised and disappointed, gob-smacked in fact, when the walls start closing in.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/13 @ 8:14 am #
“To them, large organizations like Government and big corporations don’t have or need a source for the money they spend  they simply have money,…”
A primitive knowledge of economics.
Comment by Patrick Carroll on 1/13 @ 8:23 am #
Arrrrrggggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Dan Collins on 1/13 @ 8:50 am #
Timely, I’d say, Darleen.
Comment by Dan Collins on 1/13 @ 8:55 am #
Another doah! moment, presented by Dan.
Comment by Curmudgeon on 1/13 @ 10:08 am #
I’m still here fighting for it, but it is sad to see a once truly wonderful place turning inexorably into excrement.
While the leftists are obviously at fault, there were a few unintended consequences on the Right as well:
1. When the Cold War was won and the “peace dividend” came to be, defense cutbacks meant that Southern California went from domination by the aerospace and “hard” electronics industries (with all those good guy rightist patriot workers and leaders), to domination by the entertainment and “soft” electronics industries (e.g., graphic artist types), with all the weenie liberals, who sadly were stacked with money.
2. The cheap labor greedhead Wall Stret Journal types were hell bent on importing what they perceived to be a compliant underclass, who have turned out to be not so compliant, and a major source of gang-banging and Demunist voters, and now politicians. Gee, who would have thunk? Lenin was right, when the time came to hang the capitalists, the WSJ greedheads imported to underclass with which to do it.
3. And, of course, teh ghey Left really ruined it. The problem is not that they are Lavender so much that they are Reds and Pinkoes. But that too was an Unintended Consequence: when homosexual servicemen during WW2, the Korean police action, and the Vietnam quagmire were dishonorably discharged, shipped back to Hunters Point (later flown back to SFO airport) and dumped off there in disgrace, not to return to their original homes, a critical mass took hold and a political time bomb was set up. It has since exploded.
Comment by Patrick Carroll on 1/13 @ 10:26 am #
Well, quite apart from the expense and regulation, I’ve never liked California because of how cramped it feels.
Anytime I’ve visited, I feel like I’m back in Japan: tiny living quarters, people on top of each other, oppressive crowding.
I don’t know why this is the case, but it’s a feeling I get every time I visit.
Say what you will about Atlanta traffic, but Atlanta does have the advantage of no boundaries. When I arrived here back in 1991, there were five counties considered part of the metro area. Now it’s more like 23 counties, and goes almost to the Alabama and Tennesse borders. You trade commute time for low-cost land and accommodations – once you’re outside the I-285 perimeter.
Apropos nothing.
Comment by Curmudgeon on 1/13 @ 10:37 am #
Say what you will about Atlanta traffic, but Atlanta does have the advantage of no boundaries. When I arrived here back in 1991, there were five counties considered part of the metro area. Now it’s more like 23 counties, and goes almost to the Alabama and Tennesse borders. You trade commute time for low-cost land and accommodations – once you’re outside the I-285 perimeter.
I find that odd, since the eco-fiends around here decry “sprawl”, and how what was once a 5 county Greater San Francisco turned into a 9 county “Bay Area”, which turned into a 14-county “Bay Area”, with longer and longer commutes for those in search of an affordable home.
And yet, the eco-fiends demanded that every bayfront swamp was sacred and could not be filled in, and that Mount San Bruno and the Marin Headlands were too pretty to put homes there. And all those people moving in had to go live *someplace*.
Comment by Patrick Carroll on 1/13 @ 12:43 pm #
Here in Atlanta we’re simple philistines: if it’s in any way buildable land, it gets built on.
This has not always been good policy, but it has kept housing cheap.
Comment by Bob Reed on 1/13 @ 1:11 pm #
And people wonder why SF is so frigged up…
Comment by ginsocal on 1/13 @ 1:34 pm #
Yup. As soon as I can talk the wife into it, it’s back to Boise for us. This state has become a Third-world shithole. I can go days without hearing a word of English.
Comment by Joel on 1/13 @ 4:19 pm #
One more reason to avoid admitting I was born at the Presidio.
Comment by RC on 1/13 @ 5:38 pm #
colorado has already been Californicated. Witness our last election results.
Comment by meya on 1/13 @ 6:14 pm #
And we spent all that money on wiretap equipment but have to wait for fucking court orders. Sheesh. Too bad we can’t move to east germany any more.
Comment by ginsocal on 1/13 @ 6:46 pm #
meya, suppose you come back when you can make some sense. ‘Course, in your case, that’ll be somewhere just past never. Fuckin’ retard.
Comment by SDN on 1/13 @ 7:40 pm #
#4 John: The problem most of us have with the “facial recognition software” was the truly interesting false positive rate. Couple that with cops and prosecutors like the ones in Raleigh-Durham (Duke lacrosse case) or any other large bureaucracy, and tell me we don’t have cause for concern.
Now, if you want to couple allowing this with rules that the cops and prosecutors involved with things like swearing out false warrants or withholding exculpatory evidence serve the maximum sentences for all the crimes they charged with them, consecutively, and I’d be more inclined to go along.
Comment by Curmudgeon on 1/14 @ 10:50 am #
meya, suppose you come back when you can make some sense. ‘Course, in your case, that’ll be somewhere just past never. Fuckin’ retard.
With any luck, meya will get raped and beaten by one of the criminals she mollycoddles.
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