… and she’s listening to the voices in her head … (lord knows, there’s plenty of space to play in there).
The problem with teenage sexuality for right wingers is not that they’re too young per se, it’s that most kids will have to try on a few partners before they find one that fits well, and this sexual and romantic experimentation is what’s considered a problem. So the solution is clearly to make sure that kids who have sex get tied to their first partner through a baby, and preferably through marriage and a baby. Because fuck those kids; they don’t deserve happiness when so many of adults are grouchy and unfulfilled.
The Palins, you see, have assaulted poor li’l Mandy. Mandy finds it impossible to reconcile that Inauthentic Women can hold that teenagers would be better off not having sex and/or avoiding pregnancy yet actually be loving, supportive and even happy (!!!) when a healthy baby is born. Such a reasonable, moral, adult stance is causing the poor dear to engage in dark, muttering conspiracies about what RightWingers Really Really Think About Teh Sex!!
Excuse me while I stop clutching my pearls.
It doesn’t take much to set Mandy off into the throes of straw-doll making of Inauthentic Women(tm) but it certainly did help that Jodi Jacobson at Reality Check [heh.] should base her own Palin smears on an oft-repeated equivocation
Yet the situation is also full of irony. Bristol grew up in a family which espoused abstinence-only policies, not just as a familial choice, but also a state- and national strategy.
No, Governor Palin did not and does not
“I’m pro-contraception, and I think kids who may not hear about it at home should hear about it in other avenues.”
Again, such reasonableness about public school sex-ed — be age appropriate, stress abstinence, cover contraceptives, leave off the outlier explicit sex practices — doesn’t fit with the cartoon of non-leftist women as a bunch of frigid, sex-hating breeders in total thrall to wife-beating footsoldiers of The Patriarchy(tm).
Parenting is like teaching a skill, be it sewing, cooking, or building a house. There are basic, sound standards to learn and rules to follow. If one is going to build a home, whether it is a contemporary ranch or Victorian revival, a sound foundation is required, know how to use a level, do math correctly, etc. The same approach is what good parents, including RightWinger parents, do when raising children to become responsible adults and partners in solid relationships. When our loved ones make honest mistakes, we still love them, support them and get them back on the road. Teh Sex is all part and parcel of life and relationships and really a great, warm, fun, bring-us-closer part. But it is only part and doesn’t exist in a vacuum where it becomes some political flag of authentication.
It is amusing to observe the style of emo-ing that wants to ban McDonalds being sold to kids, fire any school admin that allows Coca-Cola on campus but defends the “right” of 13 year old girls to get abortions without their parent(s) knowledge.
And it does come down to abortion. Not the act itself, but the iconic political position it occupies for many of the Authentic Womyn set. Certainly poor Mandy’s own incoherencies and hallucinations about RightWinger Sex(tm) spring from her own issues
I called my sometimes-boyfriend, my inconstant lover and told him I was probably pregnant. I wanted him to offer to pay for the abortion. He offered instead to marry me.I nearly threw the phone against the wall.
What can be said of a person who pitches a fit that the first reaction of her boyfriend was NOT “Hey, let’s just suck out that problem.” Heavens! How dare there be any consequence to fucking! How dare a male act like more than a carbon-based vibrator and not be my mind-reader at the same time!!! Hufff!!! PUFFF!!!
Really, the only “grouchiness” in view here is Mandy’s.
Us RightWingers? We are too busy having fun and sex.
Comment by Christopher Taylor on 1/4 @ 8:08 pm #
I wanted him to offer to pay for the abortion.
Because it was all his fault, you see. She shouldn’t pay for anything, ever.
Comment by Dan Collins on 1/4 @ 8:14 pm #
Wow. That’s . . . . Whaddya say we go Dutch?
Comment by parsnip on 1/4 @ 8:23 pm #
Spin it all you want, Bristol Palin’s out of wedlock baby makes Sarah Palin look like a bad parent and a bad wingnut.
Comment by Darleen on 1/4 @ 8:30 pm #
makes Sarah Palin look like a bad parent
No, it doesn’t. Period.
When a duly licensed teenager totals the family car in an accident, does that make the parent a “bad parent”?
Don’t you have a pro-jihad meeting to attend somewhere?
Comment by Rebecca on 1/4 @ 8:31 pm #
Spin spin spin! Have some sex, ’snip, you’ve become an awful bore.
As a troll, you aren’t restricted to posting on topic, truth, pertinence, or even in the ballpark thereof, so you could at least try to be interesting now and then. What a waste of personal anarchy.
Comment by dick on 1/4 @ 8:32 pm #
Parsnip,
Before you make those claims you should really take a good look at what the fundamentalists do think about marriage and children born out of wedlock. From all the ones that I know, and I grew up in an area with a lot of fundamentalists, they hate the sin but love and accept the sinner, which is far more than the liberals do. The liberals just go get the kid vacuumed away or get the baby’s head crushed. And then go on their merry way – no problemo. Must be nice not to have any moral standards. Makes life easier.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 1/4 @ 8:37 pm #
Wow, Amynda’s “lover” (“sexer” would be a better term) really dodged a bullet there.
Dude, if you’re out there: props for offering to do the right thing, and I hope you developed better taste in girlfriends somewhere along the way.
Comment by Pablo on 1/4 @ 8:45 pm #
If she were Obama’s daughter, she wouldn’t be punished with his grandchild. The poor kid needs to fuck more guys is what she needs.
Comment by B Moe on 1/4 @ 8:49 pm #
Amanda should send Bristol a copy of that racist comic book she wrote to help her sort all this madness out. I mean a supportive family that loves you no matter what? What kind of fairy tale is that?
Comment by Ric Locke on 1/4 @ 8:57 pm #
dick: You’re right, of course, but you’re asking the impossible.
monkyboy (parsnip, but that’s not the name I learned to love him by) has no capacity for perceiving the actual Universe, because he has a complete (though incoherent) version pasted behind his eyeballs, composed of all the bigoted stereotypes strung together. When what, for anyone else, would be a sense-impression comes along, it instead triggers an output from that construct, and that’s what monkyboy detects and responds to.
Jeff prefers not to aggressively pursue disruptive commenters, and it’s his blog. You get used to it, sort of.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by serr8d on 1/4 @ 8:58 pm #
Great post, Darleen, and spot on.
parsnit, my guess is that you will never be a parent. Or should I say, my hope is that you will never be a parent.
For your theoretical kid’s sake.
Comment by Lyndsey on 1/4 @ 9:01 pm #
If you have children you know that, no matter what you teach them, they may make poor decisions somewhere along the line. If you do your job, you teach them that their actions have consequences. There is no glorification here that I can see, just acceptance of a less-than-ideal situation. They are going to make the best of it. Why is that an issue to anyone outside of their family?
It’s silly to me that Amanda misses the whole point. In the Palins’ view there became a third person involved–not just Bristol Palin and her boyfriend. A tiny person with no voice or choices in the situation. Within their beliefs the honorable thing for them to do, the moral thing for them to do, was take care of the defenseless one. They chose to have a baby. It does not affect Amanda’s life in any way, nor is it indicative of oppression or anything else she wishes to believe it to be. If Amanda wants to have an abortion, she can. She shouldn’t be angry because someone else decided not to.
Comment by Ric Locke on 1/4 @ 9:07 pm #
Yes, Lyndsey, but Amanda literally cannot accept anything resembling that formation while keeping her self-image. For anybody in our world, the male sex partner’s offer of marriage is a gracious and sharing act; for Amanda, it’s a threat — her only referent for “fetus” very closely resembles what you and I would think of as “tapeworm”, so when the MSP failed to immediately offer to contribute to getting it excised it disappointed her.
For you and me, building that construct into something that generates semi-coherent responses is work, and the result is as artificial as a styrofoam snowman. For her it’s gut reaction. Communication is thus hard.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/4 @ 9:16 pm #
Disagree — for a certain type of feminist, it is about the act. If it weren’t, then the disgusting behavior of Planned Parenthood employees in wanting to cover up statutory rape would piss them off more than the fact that it was uncovered by someone who opposes abortion.
The impression I get from many of the modern feminists is that anything is acceptable if it means unrestricted access and performance of abortions. Sexual harassment? OK. Fraud? OK. Statutory rape? OK. Out-and-out violent rape? OK. So long as a politician protects the sacrificial altars operated by Planned Parenthood, anything is acceptable to the modern feminist.
Comment by dre on 1/4 @ 9:18 pm #
I think it should be The Patriarchy™
Comment by MarkJ on 1/4 @ 9:21 pm #
Barry Manilow has a thing or two to say to Amanda:
I remember all my life rainin’ down as cold as ice
Shadows of a man
a face through a window
Cryin’ in the night
the night goes into morning.
Just another day
happy people pass my way
Looking in their eyes I see a mem’ry
I never realized how happy you made me.
Oh Mandy
well you came and you gave without taking
But I sent you away
oh Mandy
Well you kissed me and stopped me from shaking
And I need you today
oh Mandy.
I’m standing on the edge of time
I’ve walked away when love was mine
Caught up in a world of up-hill climbing
The tears are in my mind and nothing is rhyming.
Oh Mandy
Well you came and you gave without taking
but I sent you away, oh Mandy
well you kissed me and stopped me from shaking
And I need you today, oh Mandy
Yesterday’s a dream I face the morning
Crying on the breeze
the pain is calling, oh Mandy
Well you came and you gave without taking
but I sent you away, oh Mandy
well you kissed me and stopped me from shaking
And I need you today, oh Mandy
Comment by Dan Collins on 1/4 @ 9:23 pm #
I wish I had the drawing chops to do Mandy Poppins.
Comment by parsnip on 1/4 @ 9:23 pm #
Rob, you may be a actually be a bigger right wing blowhard than Ric.
It’s a tossup between you two tossers.
Comment by JHoward on 1/4 @ 9:29 pm #
Oh, sure, parsnot. Be that way.
Comment by B Moe on 1/4 @ 9:37 pm #
What I don’t understand is why Mandy would expect the dude to pay for the abortion. Help me out here tuberhead, doesn’t that just reinforce the patriarchy? Poor little Mandy calling the big strong man up, “What shall I do?” Why be disappointed in his decision, why not make her own decisions?
I need some insight into the Progressyve Womyn’s Mynd here, tuberhead.
Comment by Ag80 on 1/4 @ 9:39 pm #
I was tempted to post this before, but I hesitated. Now, I will.
I don’t know if parsnip is alphie or actus or whomever. I don’t know if parsnip is a man or a woman. However, I do know that Parsnip has no original thoughts. Parsnip’s whole point of being in PW postings is to act up like a little kid seeking attention.
He reminds me of John Cleese in the Monty Python argument skit in a way.
Parsnip knows nothing and adds nothing, simply because he is nothing. He may be a teenager with misguided ideas or an adult with nothing left to offer. I have no idea which is correct, but he is a pitiful fool. I don’t mean to be disparaging. I hope that he can find some way to be a valued member of society other than being a fool.
Parsnip’s obsession with Bristol Palin is disturbing and I hope that he/she will get help. I am serious about that.
Learn to debate and bring good ideas to to the conversation. I have no delusions that most of the posters here would happily and politely engage.
I’ve had fun in the past mocking parsnip, expecting an intelligent reply. I will do it no longer because parsnip needs help.
Comment by parsnip on 1/4 @ 9:42 pm #
I need some insight into the Progressyve Womyn’s Mynd
What’s the matter, B Moe?
Missionary style once a month not doing it for you?
Prayer helps, I hear.
Comment by James on 1/4 @ 9:47 pm #
After their reaction to the Monica Lewinsky scandal, we know what Progressyve Womyn are. Their price is yet to be fully determined.
Comment by Darleen on 1/4 @ 9:51 pm #
Comment by parsnip on 1/4 @ 9:42 pm
obviously, snippy didn’t read the closing link.
or is just jealous, which isn’t a surprise.
Comment by nikkolai on 1/4 @ 9:52 pm #
Ignore the Talking Telephone Pole. It needs help. No help will be forthcoming here. Pitiful lttle creature, TTP.
Comment by parsnip on 1/4 @ 9:52 pm #
I don’t mind boinking conservative woman, Darleen.
But all that prayin’ beforehand is hard on the knees.
Comment by SarahW on 1/4 @ 9:54 pm #
Christopher, in fairness to Mandy, and pregnant women everywhere, they never get off scot-free. They always go dutch.
She’s an idiot, of course. Divorcement of sex from the possibility of procreation is a fool’s mistake.
Comment by Pablo on 1/4 @ 10:02 pm #
Yeah, but once the funeral’s over, it’s partay time, eh snippy?
Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 10:05 pm #
“Divorcement of sex from the possibility of procreation is a fool’s mistake.”
So you never use contraception?
Comment by Haunches on 1/4 @ 10:10 pm #
I made the mistake of wandering to the post. Some serious anger issues there. It was so over the top it read like a pardoy but hte comments showed that they were dead serious. A frightening thought — there is some poor slob who made the mistake of letting her (and perhaps one of the posters) into his life and will only get out by the grace of God.
Comment by Parsnip on 1/4 @ 10:10 pm #
I see my impostor’s been busy this evening. Hello, fool! You’re busted!
Comment by parsnip on 1/4 @ 10:13 pm #
No caps in the name, fakey.
When will you learn?
Comment by Ag80 on 1/4 @ 10:15 pm #
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Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 10:05 pm #
“Divorcement of sex from the possibility of procreation is a fool’s mistake.â€Â
So you never use contraception?
I’m sorry, what is your point?
Contraception works most of the time, but sometimes it doesn’t. If a person doesn’t want a child, then they should use contraception (unless religious regions proscribe it. To each their own.) It seems to me that is a valid statement.
Comment by Darleen on 1/4 @ 10:16 pm #
assclown
name the contraceptive that is 100% effective
Comment by Pablo on 1/4 @ 10:16 pm #
Hey, assclown! Before you start asking people questions, you need to answer this one. And this isn’t going to work, so don’t bother. Just answer the question.
Comment by parsnip on 1/4 @ 10:18 pm #
Isn’t that like saying if you don’t want to die in a plane crash, never fly, Ag?
Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 10:21 pm #
You are a persistent little bitch, Pablo.
Comment by Big D on 1/4 @ 10:24 pm #
Comment by Ag80 on 1/4 @ 9:39 pm #
I like the cut of this man’s jib.
You are spot on AG.
Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 10:24 pm #
It is a stupid question and shows you are grasping at straws to justify the Iraq war.
Comment by Ag80 on 1/4 @ 10:24 pm #
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Comment by Darleen on 1/4 @ 10:16 pm #
assclown
name the contraceptive that is 100% effective
That’s a good point, Darleen. Nothing is 100 percent guaranteed, no matter what it is.
Comment by Darleen on 1/4 @ 10:26 pm #
“The odds of being killed on a single trip in an airliner accident is 52.6 million to 1″*
“% of Women Experiencing an Unintended Pregnancy within the First Year of Use
Condom: Typical Use: 15% Perfect Use: 2%” *
Comment by Ag80 on 1/4 @ 10:27 pm #
Thanks Big D. I just don’t understand what’s the matter with thinking.
Comment by Darleen on 1/4 @ 10:28 pm #
oh assclown, don’t you ever get embarrassed by your cowardice?
Comment by Big D on 1/4 @ 10:32 pm #
Actually thinking would take them off the talking points,AG. You’ll notice that none of them will actually respond to a point, they will simply change the subject. I have taken to skipping over or TH their comments. It is not worth the time to read what they spew.
Comment by Ag80 on 1/4 @ 10:32 pm #
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Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 10:24 pm #
It is a stupid question and shows you are grasping at straws to justify the Iraq war.
What? Did you post in this thread by mistake on this one? I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 10:33 pm #
My point is simple. If you truly thought divorcing sex from procreation was a “fool’s mistake”, you wouldn’t use contraception. Have the courage of your convictions. Claiming that contraception is NOT a “fool’s mistake” because it has an inherent failure rate falls apart at the margins. What about women past menopause? Are they undertaking a “fool’s mistake”? What about women and men who have had their tubes cut? Anal sex? Oral sex? Women who lack a uterus? etc…
Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 10:36 pm #
Darleen, I am actually embarrassed for you. No, that’s pity. Never mind.
Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 10:38 pm #
Ag80, my Iraq war reply was for Pablo.
Comment by Darleen on 1/4 @ 10:41 pm #
If you truly thought divorcing sex from procreation was a “fool’s mistakeâ€Â, you wouldn’t use contraception
You don’t read English, do you?
Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 10:43 pm #
“You don’t read English, do you?”
After all the concerned posts about the low level of discourse from trolls, this is Darleen’s reply. You guys going to TrollHammer Darleen?
Comment by SA on 1/4 @ 10:44 pm #
assclown on 1/4 @ 10:38 pm
Stop saying you’ve replied to Pablo’s Iraq war question – you have not.
Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 10:45 pm #
Did my post hit a little close to home, Darleen?
Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 10:46 pm #
SA – I most certainly did. Pablo constructed a stupid fucking question along the lines of “have you stopped beating your wife yet”. Begging me for a reply is sad, though continue if you’d like.
Comment by Ag80 on 1/4 @ 10:46 pm #
My point is simple. If you truly thought divorcing sex from procreation was a “fool’s mistakeâ€Â, you wouldn’t use contraception. Have the courage of your convictions. Claiming that contraception is NOT a “fool’s mistake†because it has an inherent failure rate falls apart at the margins. What about women past menopause? Are they undertaking a “fool’s mistakeâ€Â? What about women and men who have had their tubes cut? Anal sex? Oral sex? Women who lack a uterus? etc…
Good Lord. What are you talking about? Sex and procreation go hand-in-hand. That’s the point, again? I don’t think separating sex from procreation is a “fool’s mistake.” If anyone who doesn’t want a child, he or she should choose to use contraception. However, it doesn’t always work.
However, what the hell does that have to do with women in menopause or women who have had tubal ligation or people who engage in anal or oral sex?
You’re whole post is a non-non-sequitur.
Comment by Ag80 on 1/4 @ 10:50 pm #
I didn’t mean to say a “non-non-sequitur, but it kind of applies.
Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 10:50 pm #
“I don’t think separating sex from procreation is a “fool’s mistake.—
I was responding to someone who does. #27
Comment by Jeffersonian on 1/4 @ 10:50 pm #
I can’t even imagine the living hell a child would experience under an Amanda Marcotte parentage.
Comment by Big D on 1/4 @ 10:52 pm #
“You’re whole post is a non-non-sequitur.”
That’s his purpose in life, AG. Responding to him is a waste of time. Darleen put together a good post worthy of discussion. Commenters of AC’s ilk are not worth your time.
Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 10:52 pm #
“Sex and procreation go hand-in-hand.”
They are related and one is (traditionally) required for the other but that’s it. There is no supernatural connection. That was my point.
Comment by Ag80 on 1/4 @ 10:53 pm #
Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 10:38 pm #
Ag80, my Iraq war reply was for Pablo.
Fair. Thanks for clearing it up.
Comment by Darleen on 1/4 @ 10:53 pm #
assclown
unless one partner or the other is sterile, then sexual intercourse will always carry the risk (greater/lesser) of pregnancy. To pretend otherwise, as Mandy and other “sex without ‘consequence’” left-libertines do, leads directly to the Mandy-esque rage at ANYONE that dares talk about responsibility to the nascent human life created and the rage that anyone live differently than them.
I mean, they took it as a personal affront that Gov. Palin did NOT abort Trigg.
It is the height of irresponsibility to not tell teens that even using a condom everytime is merely “safer” sex, not SAFE sex.
Comment by Pablo on 1/4 @ 10:55 pm #
Stop weaseling and answer the question, assclown. It’s a very straight question that you don’t need to read anything else into. And it has nothing to do with justifying the Iraq invasion. Enough dancing. An answer, please.
Comment by Pablo on 1/4 @ 10:57 pm #
Mandy really is a fine argument for abortion, though not in the way she thinks.
Comment by Ag80 on 1/4 @ 10:59 pm #
Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 10:52 pm #
“Sex and procreation go hand-in-hand.â€Â
They are related and one is (traditionally) required for the other but that’s it. There is no supernatural connection. That was my point.
Again, fair.
I’m willing to discuss.
Comment by Big D on 1/4 @ 10:59 pm #
Whenever I read a comment from AC or parsnip I am reminded of a great line by Ron White: “I once got kicked out of a debate for going Oh yeah, well fuck you! Hell, I thought I won.”
Pretty much sums up their debating skills.
Comment by Ric Locke on 1/4 @ 11:02 pm #
Oh, good. Girl Genius will be updating in a few minutes, and I can avoid Yet Another Abortion Thread with a clear conscience.
As nearly as I can tell, both from reading her stuff and from what others have reported, Amanda Marcotte’s internal referent for “fetus” appears to be “horrid malignant parasite eating me alive from inside! kill it!”. As a male I of course have no direct experience to cite, but I contrast that with the look of joy on my wife’s face when we got the news that our son was on the way, and the crumple of disappointment and subsequent sourness when later attempts weren’t successful, and I have to say: one of the two women is nutz. Clearly I have a prejudice as to which one that is.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 11:03 pm #
Darleen -
I’ll be honest. I think Mandy is engaging in some colorful attacks by assuming the worst motives for her “enemies” but so are you. That said, teaching kids the risks of sex and the responsibilities involved are pretty mundane ideas that maybe even she’d agree to.
Not the abortion angle, though. I’m personally pro-choice but I think there are anti-abortion positions that are perfectly reasonable.
Comment by Big D on 1/4 @ 11:06 pm #
Ric,
From experience I concur. We have five and I wouldn’t trade them for the world. That some think of babies as anything other than a blessing is bewildering. Amanda has a very big hole in her heart that will never be filled. More’s the pity.
Comment by Darleen on 1/4 @ 11:07 pm #
Ag80
I parented 4 daughters into adulthood … for a number of years I had at least 3 teens in the house. Discussion of sex, relationships, etc, was an on going endeavor, no question was forbidden nor unanswered. And in those discussions specific to sex, the fact of possible pregnancy was always addressed.
I would expect if I had had sons, my discussions would have been little different.
Comment by Ag80 on 1/4 @ 11:08 pm #
Comment by Big D on 1/4 @ 10:59 pm #
Whenever I read a comment from AC or parsnip I am reminded of a great line by Ron White: “I once got kicked out of a debate for going Oh yeah, well fuck you! Hell, I thought I won.â€Â
Pretty much sums up their debating skills.
I like Ron White. He cracks me up, despite the unfortunate marijuana arrest. I mean that. I like Willie, too.
If assclown wants to debate the issues without resorting to insults, I will too. He’s given me the benefit of the doubt tonight. If he do resorts to insults, I’m all in with you.
Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 11:08 pm #
Some UN-reasonable positions are related to the concept that one cannot divorce sex and babies. We did! We even did it before the pill!
Comment by Darleen on 1/4 @ 11:14 pm #
Ric
Hopefully this won’t be “just” about abortion. I read many “feminist” sites and I’m amazed at how they view sex and what they think non-”feminists” and non-leftists do behind closed doors. Mandy’s interpretation of the Palins’ acceptance of Bristol’s pregnancy as a conspiracy to “punish” teens into a miserable life [cue maniacal cackling and twirling of mustache] of breeding and shotgun marriage.
Comment by Ag80 on 1/4 @ 11:17 pm #
Comment by Darleen on 1/4 @ 11:07 pm #
Ag80
I parented 4 daughters into adulthood … for a number of years I had at least 3 teens in the house. Discussion of sex, relationships, etc, was an on going endeavor, no question was forbidden nor unanswered. And in those discussions specific to sex, the fact of possible pregnancy was always addressed.
I would expect if I had had sons, my discussions would have been little different.
Darleen: I don’t think so. I have a 17-year-old young man and and a 14-year-old young woman and I talk to tell then both, sometimes at the same time, to help them understand that actions mean consequences.
Will I be lucky? I don’t know, but it doesn’t matter. They are my children and I will support them.
And this is when, everyone says “no matter what.” I will support them through an unwanted pregnancy, but I do draw the line on criminal activity. They know this. I hope they remember.
Comment by Ag80 on 1/4 @ 11:17 pm #
Sorry.
Comment by Big D on 1/4 @ 11:20 pm #
Darleen,
God bless you! Parenting that many to adulthood is quite an accomplishment. My oldest four are boys, the youngest is a girl. We are well into the teenage years and it is quite an adventure. I remember thinking that my father was the dumbest man on the planet when I was a teen. When I reached about 21 or 22 he regained his intelligence. He told me that it was genetic as the same thing happened to his father when he was a teen. I am fully expecting the same thing for my boys.
My daughter, however, is a princess. Wiath four older4 brothers my job is much easier.
Comment by Synova on 1/4 @ 11:21 pm #
“My point is simple. If you truly thought divorcing sex from procreation was a “fool’s mistakeâ€Â, you wouldn’t use contraception.”
Simple but false.
One can consistently use contraception without divorcing sex from procreation. Logically, saying that sex is about procreation does not mean, in any way, that it is not about other things as well.
Divorcing sex from procreation is what people do when they pretend that sex is NOT about procreation at all. It always is, even if you’re sterile it doesn’t stop sex from being the biological drive designed to procreate the human race. That defines the emotional and functional “baggage” attached to sex… which certain sorts want to pretend doesn’t exist.
It is *always* there.
Comment by Big D on 1/4 @ 11:22 pm #
With four older.
Jeez Jeff, would it kill you to get a preview function?
Comment by Darleen on 1/4 @ 11:28 pm #
AG
Darleen: I don’t think so
Oh, please don’t misunderstand … I believe most of the biology discussions would have been exactly the same. But discussion of male/female sexuality and relationships would be more geared toward their own POV. Male and females are different.
My twin grandsons are six … the future discussions are coming.
Comment by Ag80 on 1/4 @ 11:29 pm #
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Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 11:08 pm #
Some UN-reasonable positions are related to the concept that one cannot divorce sex and babies. We did! We even did it before the pill!
Again, what does this mean? What does the UN have to do with procreation? I think I fairly gave you the benefit of the doubt. Help me out.
Comment by Ag80 on 1/4 @ 11:34 pm #
Comment by Darleen on 1/4 @ 11:28 pm #
AG
Darleen: I don’t think so
Oh, please don’t misunderstand … I believe most of the biology discussions would have been exactly the same. But discussion of male/female sexuality and relationships would be more geared toward their own POV. Male and females are different.
My twin grandsons are six … the future discussions are coming.
Got it. And God bless you, your children and grandchildren. Times may be hard, but family is here to stay.
Comment by Big D on 1/4 @ 11:34 pm #
I think Synova has put it quite succinctly. Synova, I hope that you will stick around.
Comment by peter jackson on 1/4 @ 11:36 pm #
Reading her I sometimes wonder if Amanda loves anything human. I hope she does, I really do.
That’s some bad-ass Fisk Fu you got there Darleen. You got me feeling sorry for her, dag.
yours/
peter.
Comment by Darleen on 1/4 @ 11:37 pm #
Big D
My eldest daughter and I had a few rocky years in her late teens. She’s a type A personality AND very stubborn. Now we couldn’t be more close.
Comment by Big D on 1/4 @ 11:43 pm #
Very nice, Darleen. Parenting is quite a job. You have obviously done well.
BTW, I didn’t know that nurses still wore those hats.
Comment by Ag80 on 1/4 @ 11:46 pm #
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Comment by Big D on 1/4 @ 11:34 pm #
I think Synova has put it quite succinctly. Synova, I hope that you will stick around.
Agreed. There is nothing wrong with sex or procreation. How could it be? To be blunt, it’s our point: survival. Sometimes, it doesn’t matter (figure it out on your own actus). Not that they’re anything wrong with that.
However, we can teach our children what is appropriate and what is not. Sometimes they will listen. Often, they won’t. I remember being a teenager.
Comment by Darleen on 1/4 @ 11:46 pm #
Big D
They wear the “traditional” uniform w/cap for graduation (pinning ceremony). It was very moving … all the nurses coming down the aisles holding little lamps with candles.
Comment by Ag80 on 1/4 @ 11:48 pm #
Crap, again: “Not that there is anything wrong with that.”
Comment by Big D on 1/4 @ 11:49 pm #
Darleen,
Thanks. I love tradition. I can only hope that I will have photos like that when mine are that age. That you do is proof of your parenting skills.
Comment by Big D on 1/4 @ 11:51 pm #
Okay, having pics of my boys in nursing hats is silly, but you get the idea.
Comment by maggie katzen on 1/4 @ 11:52 pm #
oh, I’m sure someone out there would pay good money for that.
Comment by Darleen on 1/4 @ 11:53 pm #
Big D
I love tradition
That’s another bone I have to pick with juvenile Leftists. They sneer at tradition and ritual. Tradition and ritual are very important components in passing on values and culture to the next generation. It helps bridge generations.
It’s as if the Left believes history begins with “now” and PISS on any past they don’t agree with.
Comment by Darleen on 1/4 @ 11:54 pm #
maggie
HA!!!
btw, there were nine men in my daughter’s class … no they didn’t wear the caps. :-)
Comment by parsnip on 1/4 @ 11:54 pm #
Nobody cares what you tell your kids, Darleen.
It’s when you try to convert your primitive beliefs into legislation that’s the problem.
Comment by Big D on 1/4 @ 11:56 pm #
Isn’t it past you bedtime parsnip.
Comment by Darleen on 1/4 @ 11:57 pm #
what primitive beliefs into what legislation, jew-hater?
or are only Highly Evolved Leftists allowed to formulate Proper Public School policies?
Comment by Big D on 1/5 @ 12:02 am #
Tradition has quite a bit going for it, Darleen. I would ignore parsnip as his “grasp” of history is tenuous at best. To him, history began in 2000. Sad, but indicative of his ilk.
Comment by Big D on 1/5 @ 12:07 am #
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Comment by parsnip on 1/4 @ 11:54 pm #
“Nobody cares what you tell your kids, Darleen.
It’s when you try to convert your primitive beliefs into legislation that’s the problem.”
I would like to know where these primitive beliefs have been tried to be converted into legislation. Be specific. Thanks
Comment by SarahW on 1/5 @ 12:09 am #
“If you truly thought divorcing sex from procreation was a “fool’s mistakeâ€Â, you wouldn’t use contraception. ”
How does that follow the assertion I made? It does not follow that if one uses contraception that one has decided sex is something apart and unconnected to procreation.
Comment by Scrappy on 1/5 @ 12:10 am #
Everything wrong with the world can be traced back to the invention of The Pill.
Comment by bill on 1/5 @ 12:16 am #
Amanda Marcotte is proof positive of the maxim “Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes to the bone”
If AssFace and Veggie Boy want to add something succinct to the discussion of procreation,contraception et.al. they merely need to endorse their own chosen method of pleasure, choking the chicken. At least Thor allegedly buys a Russian woman of ill repute occasionally.
Comment by parsnip on 1/5 @ 12:36 am #
Do you believe woman should have the right to have an abortion when they want one or not, Darleen?
Comment by Darleen on 1/5 @ 12:44 am #
parsnip
I’m with the majority of Americans… reluctant prochoice. That is between the pro-abortion “prochoicers” like NARAL, Planned Parenthood, et al, and the “ban abortion at all stages” pro-lifers.
But pro-life is not a “primative” belief, so again, you fail to back up your own assertion. The abortion debate revolves around the balancing of a civil rights of both a woman and the individual life she carries.
The vast majority of abortions are done in the first trimester for no more reason than convenience.
I would not outlaw them, but I don’t pretend they are anything other than immoral.
There is no such thing as the “right” to an abortion, only a right to seek an abortion in the first trimester without government intervention.
Comment by parsnip on 1/5 @ 12:55 am #
Kudos to you on your fairly modern and sophisticated views on abortion, Darleen.
Comment by Big D on 1/5 @ 12:59 am #
parsnip,
One day you may be fortunate enough to be present at the birth of your child. You will be talking and the infant will turn it’s head to look at you. It does that because it recognizes your voice. It will be at that point that you will rethink your position. You will think, “At what point did this baby become aware of my voice.” I know this because that is what happened to me. I was pro-choice right up until the point that I saw what that really meant. I don’t expect you to do so now, but you will.
Comment by parsnip on 1/5 @ 1:10 am #
Big D,
I’m probably old enough to be your daddy and my kids have kids of their own now.
Comment by SarahW on 1/5 @ 1:17 am #
I’m pro-choice and pro-life. And not reluctantly for either thing.
Comment by SarahW on 1/5 @ 1:20 am #
I expect most people have a proper respect for life, but know that individuals should make their own decisions about how much health risk and difficulty to endure for any given predicted outcome. Pregnancy is risky, even when there is no present danger, that situation can turn on a dime at any stage.
Comment by SarahW on 1/5 @ 1:22 am #
I still remember my own son smiling at me moments after birth, nestled in his father’s arms. I was gutted like a fish at the time, but I thought it was worth it.
Comment by Big D on 1/5 @ 1:32 am #
Sure they are parsnip.
Comment by Big D on 1/5 @ 1:34 am #
Oh, and if you are truly that old, I guess you will be a dumbass your entire life. Sad
Comment by parsnip on 1/5 @ 1:41 am #
Haha,
PW: You come for the phony outrage, but you stay for the childish insults.
Comment by SSG RaTsO - Proud to be ODD! on 1/5 @ 1:42 am #
Even abstinance failed once.
Comment by Big D on 1/5 @ 1:44 am #
That’s funny coming from you.
Comment by Big D on 1/5 @ 1:46 am #
113 was for 111.
Hey RTO. Congrats on the promotion. Not bad for a dogface!
Semper Fi
Comment by Big D on 1/5 @ 1:50 am #
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Comment by Big D on 1/5 @ 1:51 am #
That didn’t turn out right RTO, but you know what I meant. Three long three short three long.
Comment by Synova on 1/5 @ 2:37 am #
“The problem with teenage sexuality for right wingers is not that they’re too young…”
The problem with teenage sexuality is the concept of adolescence and the longer adolescence is extended the more of a problem it is.
Biologically, sexually mature humans are adult. If you’re sexually mature you are now an ADULT of the specie you belong to. This is science and biology and common sense.
The *problem* with teenaged sexuality is that there is this fantasy that somehow it is different from adult sexuality, that the persons involved are not adult enough to be responsible and also that they have to go through this period of sexual experimentation *before* becoming adult.
Physiologically, consider babies, children, the rapid growth of puberty, and adulthood. There are a few years of rapid growth when a child is not *mature* but can reproduce, but does not take a decade or more! This whole “liberal” (as opposed to us repressed right-wingers) fantasy that there even is such a thing as “teenaged sexuality” is the heart of the problem.
And “trying on partners to find one that fits well” is wrong on so very many levels. When I was a kid, that was what people would say… how can you tell, if you don’t try it out first? Take it for a “test drive” before you buy. Well, a generation of “free love” has meant that a generation got to take any number of “test drives” with any number of partners. The result is that people have made much better choices than they could make in the past under the old rules. That’s why there are so few divorces today.
Right?
Oh, and when I was a kid they also said a lot about how much a person changes from when they are young… and the age people marry has gone up and up. Which means that personalities are more settled and you don’t end up married to someone who changes after the wedding. That’s why there are so many fewer divorces today than before.
Right?
Comment by SSG RaTsO - Proud to be ODD! on 1/5 @ 2:54 am #
“Not bad for a dogface!”
Woof!
? O S O ? :)
Comment by Pellegri on 1/5 @ 4:48 am #
I will join the train of people puzzled at ’snip’s assertion that it is a grandpar–
Actually, I won’t. I have no reason not to believe parsnip, just a lingering sense of puzzlement that you can be that old and so fundamentally unable to carry on a mature discussion on ANY topic.
I know my political discussions with my dad re> Obama had their breakdown moments, but 95% of the stuff I talk to him about does not result in the continued bizarre emptiness that parsnip engages in.
Also–and this is a horribly unPC observation to make, but–if you divorce the idea of procreation completely from the idea of sex, give women absolute freedom to make sexual decisions, and give no incentives (via tradition or otherwise) to bear live, healthy children, society kinda dies in that generation. Tru fax.
Comment by Pellegri on 1/5 @ 4:50 am #
Granted I’ve been doing a lot of thinking about eusocial vs. individual-oriented societies lately, so I’m prone to maunder on reproductive strategies from a biologist’s standpoint.
Comment by thor on 1/5 @ 5:09 am #
Morality is a lot like art.
Comment by Eric on 1/5 @ 5:41 am #
That ain’t praying, snippy, and those aren’t women.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/5 @ 5:53 am #
I can name a few primitive beliefs that have been made into legislation:
o NAGPRA (Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act): Takes the native tribes religious beliefs of being the first people in the Americas at face value and even rejects known instances of migrations when tribal “traditions” claim they’ve always lived in a given location.
o Minimum Wage laws
o Assault weapons ban
Comment by JHoward on 1/5 @ 6:14 am #
Hmmm. And all this time I was convinced you were under 20. Back in the bin you go.
Comment by thor thor on 1/5 @ 6:34 am #
Your troll bin is as phony as your Barry Madoff capitalism.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 1/5 @ 6:49 am #
Your troll bin is as phony as your Barry Madoff capitalism.
Sure. That’s why you keep changing your name.
Buh-bye, loser.
Comment by thor thor on 1/5 @ 6:53 am #
I mean Bernie Madoff.
Poor JHo, he’s finally left the parking lot. The free market value of his shares in capitalist corporate structures may have disemboweled his belief in Eldorado.
Comment by thorunchka on 1/5 @ 6:58 am #
Speaking of crunchy bat wing puffs and hard-boiled chicken’s feet, hiya sPies.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 1/5 @ 7:02 am #
Bye, loser.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/5 @ 7:06 am #
He’s like a two-year-old throwing a tantrum because he’s NOT GETTING THE ATTENTION HE WANTS!!!!
Comment by Carin on 1/5 @ 7:07 am #
Mandy in comments:
Sex is like … going bowling. OR a good movie.
Why wouldn’t you want your kids to be safe while they did those things? You haters.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 1/5 @ 7:08 am #
This is thor, Rob.
Comment by Carin on 1/5 @ 7:09 am #
Man, if that last bit doesn’t just sum up the “Liberal Ideal” in all it vacuous glory:
Pleasure is good and safety is important!
Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/5 @ 7:11 am #
“Comment by assclown on 1/4 @ 10:21 pm #
You are a persistent little bitch, Pablo.”
Answer the question, then, asscrack.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 1/5 @ 7:14 am #
The fact that she equates children with “harm” pretty much says it all.
As for privileging hedonism above all else, well….
Comment by Mossberg500 on 1/5 @ 7:20 am #
Morality is a lot like art.
Abortion is a lot like killing, and no baby sitting concerns to inconvenience a night of clubbing.
Comment by thor on 1/5 @ 7:23 am #
And Bill seduces young choir boys with chocolate Bibles. Piss off, troll.
Comment by Cowboy on 1/5 @ 7:39 am #
The “test-driving” for a good sexual fit idea of Marcotte’s just shows how naive she is about marriage.
Here’s the plain facts: the sex you have with your lover changes radically when you marry that person, because everything else in your relationship has changed. Everything.
And I’m not just talking about the old bromide that says when they’re married women don’t want to have sex any longer–which in my fortunate experience is far from the truth! I’m saying that in marriage, sex is no longer an isolated act. Sex becomes so much more. It’s informed now by vows, religious or not; it’s the potential for children in a way it wasn’t before the wedding; it’s an emotional act unique to a married couple.
In short, “married sex” is so much more complex than sex before or outside of marriage.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/5 @ 7:43 am #
“Comment by Big D on 1/5 @ 12:59 am #
parsnip,
One day you may be fortunate enough to be present at the birth of your child.”
Ain’t never going to happen, whether he lies about it or not.
Comment by Cowboy on 1/5 @ 7:46 am #
SPB:
Thor seems so out of breath in that video. I feel sorry for him. He should maybe go walk around the block a few times while he waits for the undead. That’d make him feel better.
Comment by Ric Locke on 1/5 @ 7:48 am #
The woman does have a way with words sometimes.
Which is absolutely and relatively a lie as stated — although if the likes of parsnip believe that as stated it makes a lot of things about the “debate” much clearer.
Conservatives do not think of pay-for-play as an ideal to be enforced. We think it is an inevitability which must be accounted for, along with the laws of gravity and thermodynamics and sharing much, perhaps all, with the latter.
Regards,
Ric
Comment by JHoward on 1/5 @ 7:49 am #
The asshole seemed to be out of breadth in this thread. A shame, what with all the convincing going on.
Hammer™, boi.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/5 @ 7:49 am #
Comment by Synova on 1/5 @ 2:37 am #
Didn’t European royalty used to auction their daughters off at puberty?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/5 @ 7:52 am #
Comment by thor on 1/5 @ 7:23 am #
Go take your meds, thor, and take a nice long nap.
Comment by JHoward on 1/5 @ 7:55 am #
(Obscene self-satisfied tirade gussied up as a mighty verbal smack-down — with veritable shades of rhetorical broadsiding and a almost-full bushel of mixed anti-conservatist word-volley and downright apocalyptic Redumblican arse-kicking in 5, 4, 3… A shame, what with all the convincing going on. Like Celine, Celine is Musak.)
Comment by Mossberg500 on 1/5 @ 8:07 am #
Prom Night Dumpster Baby
Comment by Darleen on 1/5 @ 8:25 am #
Comment by Carin on 1/5 @ 7:07 am #
There’s a variation of the old Puritan saw fear that someone, somewhere, may be having a good time for Vagina Warriors like Mandy … the fear that non-leftists are having a grand time and they dismiss what leftists think about it.
Every behavior has a consequence. Getting up in the morning and refusing to go to work because you’re not “in the mood” may/will eventually get you fired. Ignoring the engine light on your car because you don’t “feel” like going to the mechanic may/will mean your car seizes up at some point in time.
Mandy and Co. still engage in the juvenile belief born of the 1960’s that somehow doing anything other than what your transient emotion of the moment dictates is makes one a “phoney”.
“if you can’t be with the one you
lovefuck,lovefuck the one you’re with …”Mandy and co don’t ever want anything to do with obligations to another person – lover, spouse or child.
Sad.
Comment by Darleen on 1/5 @ 8:31 am #
Morality an “art”? Well, I can see why some might think so. Certainly Vagina Warriors and anyone else that could view the abortion of two out of triplets in order not to be caught shopping for large jars of mayonaise at a mega mart (oh, the middle-class horror of it all!) and see no problem with that rationale would have a difficult time with the concept of “morality.”
Comment by Pablo on 1/5 @ 8:31 am #
But the guy can and should be obligated. And not to do what he thinks is right, but whatever it is she wants him to do. The asshole.
Comment by Carin on 1/5 @ 8:36 am #
What is ironic, Darleen, is that people like Mandy HAVE to believe that conservative are miserable. Pleasure, contained within some sort of “conservative” constraint is no longer pleasurable.
It’s funny. And sad. And harmful to young folks who buy into her/their bullshit.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 1/5 @ 8:38 am #
Mandy is half a tick above a wild animal…on her good days.
Comment by nikkolai on 1/5 @ 8:54 am #
Maybe thor could bed Mandy. Unless he and parsnip are still an item?
Comment by alppuccino on 1/5 @ 9:01 am #
kids will have to try on a few partners before they find one that fits well,
Really – how many Peter Fitzwells could there be in the phonebook?
Comment by Alec Leamas on 1/5 @ 9:04 am #
I wish we’d all stop buying Marcotte’s representations that she’s a pro-sex libertine. Clearly, she feels inadequate – in that she’s not very physically attractive – and so she maintains the need to pretend that she’s enjoying gobs of great sex (and is thus attractive) by writing about political issues with a libertine affect. (Have you seen her current paramour?) She likes the idea of sex – and the idea that her supposed enjoyment of sex annoys people – much more than the, you know, actual sex. I mean, can you actually imagine the ideological red tape involved in getting from “hello†to “good morning and thank you†with her, in the odd event that you wanted to do so?
Comment by alppuccino on 1/5 @ 9:04 am #
I’m probably old enough to be your daddy and my kids have kids of their own now.
God parsnip! That’s a long time to live with the crushing guilt of having not been aborted. You have my sympathy.
Comment by Synova on 1/5 @ 9:06 am #
#143 “Didn’t European royalty used to auction their daughters off at puberty?”
If so, then their sons as well.
As for the rest of it…
Abortion is so that the grandparents aren’t “punished” with the mistakes of their children. If your daughter doesn’t get that thing sucked out you might end up asked to babysit.
The horror!
Or help buy diapers.
Thinking that your children shouldn’t have sex, but that they should use contraception if they do, but if they get pregnant anyway they should keep it, means that Mom and Dad are accepting the role of grandparents.
Most of the time it’s not a teenager who doesn’t want to take on a baby and maybe get married to her sweetheart… young people are romantic and hopeful… it’s Grandma who doesn’t want to cramp her style.
She finally got her own nasty little rug-rats out of the house, after all.
Comment by Alec Leamas on 1/5 @ 9:13 am #
Edit to add: Myndee believes that Bristol Palin is being robbed of the future opportunity to live a fulfilling life by moving to Austin, working part-time as a barista, and playing video games well into her thirties by this horrible baby and her wingnut parents.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 1/5 @ 9:18 am #
Being so invested in the “political is personal” memo that you WANT to believe that people of a differing political ideology have less pleasureable sex lives is beyong retarded.
Comment by Alec Leamas on 1/5 @ 9:40 am #
“Being so invested in the “political is personal†memo that you WANT to believe that people of a differing political ideology have less pleasureable sex lives is beyong retarded.”
Well, the funny thing is that if you actually read her blog, and the associated feminist blogs, these supposed pro-sex feminists have a much more intricate, invasive, and prohibitive regulatory framework regarding heterosexual sex than the religious.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 1/5 @ 9:47 am #
I just do not see how you can come to the conclusion that just because you vote D or R that your sex life is radically different. Tab A is still inserted into slot B. This chick believes in the cartoon characters she has invented in her head that vote R. Bigoted, repressed, ultra-religious, racist, brainwashed, and wishing to impose those views on as many people as possible by tyranny is my guess as to what she believes anyone that votes R is like in their personal life. A sick way to go thru life if you ask me.
Comment by Alec Leamas on 1/5 @ 9:52 am #
“I just do not see how”
Yeah, well, a misogynist wouldn’t. Neener-neener.
Comment by daleyrocks on 1/5 @ 9:59 am #
“I called my sometimes-boyfriend, my inconstant lover”
I don’t think Mandy understands that when Mister Sometimes and Mister Inconstant calls her up at 3:00 a.m. on a Friday or Saturday night he failed to get lucky elsewhere and is utilizing Plan B.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/5 @ 10:04 am #
FTFY.
Oh, and he probably has a hand cramp.
Comment by daleyrocks on 1/5 @ 10:04 am #
“A sick way to go thru life if you ask me.”
Much the way thor, lacking achievements and meaning in his life, pursues advanced degrees to take up time and to take the focus off the fact that he is a dick dipping stumbleblebum.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 1/5 @ 10:15 am #
Well if this chick feels free to judge what she thinks R people are like in their private lives I can feel to judge her a whore. If I was that guy on the other end of that phone call I would have been pumping my first in glee at her decision. Who wants to marry a whore?
Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/5 @ 10:21 am #
True, but think of how he felt when he realized he could do nothing to save the life of the child he, clearly, was willing to raise.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 1/5 @ 10:26 am #
Well Mandy did write how people that vote R are into making people pay for pleasure. I guess this guy had to pay by watching his unborn son be put to death so this woman could go thru her life writing utter nonsense such as this without having to care for a child. That will show him for being an R type person and wanting to have the baby and raise it as his own.
Comment by bill on 1/5 @ 10:26 am #
Thor, There you go projecting again. I’m a happily married man. You are the deviant so I’m sure choir boys aren’t out of your range although they tend to run away from heavy breathing fatboys in greasy trenchcoats.
But what do I know.
Morality is like art when you’re a tone deaf moral leper who only lives to hear the sound of his own voice.
Comment by Semanticleo on 1/5 @ 10:32 am #
“Us RightWingers? We are too busy having fun and sex.”
Yeah, but are they AWARE they are engaging in prurient enjoyment.
It seems there is a lot of denial intended to cover up behavior that peers might find distasteful, and I wonder if that existential state-of-mind re-directs the cortex to create images of altars of deep, prayerful meditation in it’s stead.
I wonder what the stats say about Gay Republicans who are closeted, versus openly Gay Dems. I think the same holds true
for straight conservatives (when surrounded by the fellow-pious)
which strays from the accepted norm only when all male audiences encourage them to exaggerate both the number and quality of their conquests.
Denialism inhabits the entire organism, not just it’s level of political awareness.
Comment by B Moe on 1/5 @ 10:40 am #
Where the hell did Lisa go? God I miss that girl.
Comment by geoffb on 1/5 @ 10:45 am #
And opposing it is the ideal of…
Freedom is good and defending it is important.
Comment by Alec Leamas on 1/5 @ 10:50 am #
“It seems there is a lot of denial intended to cover up behavior that peers might find distasteful, and I wonder if that existential state-of-mind re-directs the cortex to create images of altars of deep, prayerful meditation in it’s stead.”
I wish that this had been written in English, so that I might have understood the author’s meaning.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/5 @ 10:54 am #
Comment by Semanticleo on 1/5 @ 10:32 am #
Do you speak English?
Comment by daleyrocks on 1/5 @ 10:56 am #
“I wonder what the stats say about Gay Republicans who are closeted, versus openly Gay Dems.”
Semen – I think the stats say that openly gay Dems try to force their views on others, a characteristic progressives claim to live in fear of from god bothering warmongering conservatives, whereas gay Repubs, not so much.
Comment by daleyrocks on 1/5 @ 10:59 am #
The pretraumatic stress disorder is really getting to Semen. It’s comments are getting less and less coherent.
Comment by SarahW on 1/5 @ 11:01 am #
B Moe
“Where the hell did Lisa go? ”
I heard she got struck by lightning.
Comment by alppuccino on 1/5 @ 11:01 am #
I wonder what the stats say about Gay Republicans who are closeted, versus openly Gay Dems.
Great wonderment leo. But it’s a shame you’re not smart enough to wonder if the stats have anything to do with your openly Democratic peers’ (and your) tendency to skewer any Gays who leave the bathhouse, or Blacks who go off the plantation.
leo, you’re a perv. You’ve established that with your many unsolicited advances toward maggie. So, of course, you project your feelings of shame and the need to hide your deviance onto others.
Stop hating yourself leo. Tone it down a little and let the world in.
Comment by SarahW on 1/5 @ 11:02 am #
or was it she got some big-ass promotion.
I can’t remember which.
Comment by daleyrocks on 1/5 @ 11:03 am #
“Stop hating yourself leo.”
Take some time to deal with your personal demons Semen. Confront them. You’ll be a better person for it. Not normal, but better.
Comment by B Moe on 1/5 @ 11:04 am #
From my experience a gay republican is much more likely to be a closeted republican than a closeted gay.
Comment by SarahW on 1/5 @ 11:09 am #
“Ignoring the engine light on your car because you don’t “feel†like going to the mechanic ”
I’m sorry but my car is magical, which never needs oiling. Those lights are just car-fairies telling me how happy they are.
Comment by geoffb on 1/5 @ 11:10 am #
CNN is trying to get into the intelligence testing business as this part of their “Year in Review” is clearly one of those which of these is unlike the others questions.
Comment by SarahW on 1/5 @ 11:12 am #
My Cars car just for driving around and buying things and going to the park. Combustion doesn’t make it go, but magical goodtiminess. And if it breaks that’s because republicans are mean.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 1/5 @ 11:12 am #
What kind of emotionally bankrupt monster answers a proposal with “How dare you get in the way of my abortion by giving me another option!!!!”?
Comment by geoffb on 1/5 @ 11:15 am #
The actions of virginal middle school males are not those of conservative adult males. Perhaps this fits with Lefty men and so it a case of projection, if not then it is simply stereotyping.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/5 @ 11:15 am #
He’s just impatient to get the work camps going.
Comment by SarahW on 1/5 @ 11:15 am #
“Conservatives do not think of pay-for-play as an ideal to be enforced. We think it is an inevitability which must be accounted for, along with the laws of gravity and thermodynamics and sharing much, perhaps all, with the latter.
Regards,
Ric”
I wish I’d said it that way.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 1/5 @ 11:16 am #
What kind of emotionally bankrupt monster answers a proposal with “How dare you get in the way of my abortion by giving me another option!!!!�
The kind who fancies herself as a independent, strong feminist but nevertheless expects a MAN to finance it?
Comment by Mr. Pink on 1/5 @ 11:17 am #
My own number is 25 if you wanted to know Cleo.
Comment by SarahW on 1/5 @ 11:17 am #
I think it was a sideways boast that some man offered to marry her, which is important for you to know.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 1/5 @ 11:20 am #
I wonder what the stats say about Gay Republicans who are closeted, versus openly Gay Dems. I think the same holds true
for straight conservatives (when surrounded by the fellow-pious)
which strays from the accepted norm only when all male audiences encourage them to exaggerate both the number and quality of their conquests.
Well Seman I can tell you the stats for make democrats who traffic in kitty porn to republicans…7 to zip. I’ll take closeted gays, thanks.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 1/5 @ 11:20 am #
make = male
Comment by SarahW on 1/5 @ 11:21 am #
I cut her some slack on the financial assistance. She’s going to have to pay for playing, no matter what. Seriously, I’m just thinking she forgot that some people think love and families are supposed to be hooked up with sex.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 1/5 @ 11:21 am #
Topsecretk9 you have a good point but I was thinking more along the lines of just taking the mans emotions and flushing them down the toilet. By her own words this guy is an “on again off again lover” so you would expect her to have some empathy for him. Nah f@ck that, the guy lays himself out there and freakin proposes to her skanky ass and she doesn’t even give the guy a noncommital but somewhat feelings sparing “I am not ready yet” answer. She just unloads both barrels into his chest cavity.
What a keeper.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 1/5 @ 11:21 am #
SarahW
I think it was a sideways boast that some man offered to marry her, which is important for you to know.
You are right!
Comment by Sdferr on 1/5 @ 11:22 am #
What ever you do SarahW, don’t let your “friend” the car take any vacations in Europe. It’s just not safe there for automobiles. Random auto murders, horrifying Auto-da-feuer are now a daily occurrence.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 1/5 @ 11:25 am #
Yeah I heard they just light themselves on fire in France I wouldn’t go there either.
Comment by SarahW on 1/5 @ 11:30 am #
horrifying Auto-da-feuer
All I could think of was this awful provencal boiled dinner I made this one time.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 1/5 @ 11:32 am #
I just don’t get these twits. On the one hand they want children to fuck with abandon with multiple partners to find a “good fit” and then complain that our culture is too sexualized and exploitive of woman!
I’m the mother of a teenage boy and here is a news flash Mandy — I don’t want him to fuck around for a good fit not only because I don’t want him abused by a callous bitch such as yourself, but because he’s not emotionally mature enough to be engaging in adult behaviors and the consequences suck. Now I KNOW it’s natural for a hormonal boy to hunt around for loose Mandy’s and just because there are a bunch of slutty Mandy’s ready to spread there legs is no reason for a parent to say “go for it” — it’s called bad parenting you idiot.
Comment by Sdferr on 1/5 @ 11:36 am #
Roast Citroën?
Comment by alppuccino on 1/5 @ 11:36 am #
You’ll be careful not to raise any hommes fatales though, right Topsecretk9?
Comment by Alec Leamas on 1/5 @ 11:39 am #
What shouldn’t be missed here either is the departure Manhanda and Co. takes from the mainstream leftie talking point regarding teen sex, wherein she lets the mask slip away and reveals the true position. Typically, the left prefaces discussions about teen sex with the caveat that it should be discouraged, but the teenie boppers won’t listen, therefore ‘X’ is appropriate to “back up†what we all (wink wink) agree is the proper standard of behavior for juveniles in relation to sex. Manhanda et al. believes that teen sex ought to be encouraged and supported without the tempering of parental regulation. The practical concerns – viz, that teen sex makes a greater claim upon society in many ways, including financial – are assuaged by the fact that she is a Socialist who believes that birth control, abortions, and single motherhood ought to be free as the result of taxpayer subsidization. As a bonus, the girls that have the abortions become Planned Parenthood partisans. Some marketing ploy, eh?
Manhanda holds these views without considering (or willfully ignoring) the very real fact that, apart from their inability to deal with the immediate unwanted outcomes of sex, teens are horrendous decision makers and risk-takers. The physical architecture of the juvenile brain proves this fact, however it bears to consideration by the Vagina Warriors cum United Uterus Operators Local 401.
“Birth control†and “education†are not magic amulets that prevent pregnancy and disease, birth control is an application that requires knowledge, consistency and the ability to forbear in order to make it work *most of the time. Neurologically speaking, we know that teens lack the impulse control and decision making abilities to consistently apply birth control measures to achieve even best case results. (An intelligent person would observe teens driving, and make a common sense extrapolation) From endocrinology, we also know that teen girls experience floods of hormones which bathe their brains and promote bonding to the objects of their affections and minimize their abilities to perceive their partners and relationships critically. In sum, a teen girl (and boys, but less so) cannot ponder the question “is this guy/relationship/sexual experience healthy/beneficial to me?†in the way that adults are able to do. Manhanda is actually promoting the phenomena of teen girls becoming involved in unhealthy relationships that will affect their future relationships and sink their self esteem.
Comment by parsnip on 1/5 @ 11:40 am #
A man whose wife frequently denies him sex will first be hurt, then sad, then angry, then quiet.
-noted Republican sex guru Dennis Prager
Our only glimpse so far into the mating habit of drunken righties. No wonder the Dems think y’all aren’t having any fun.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 1/5 @ 11:41 am #
I think Mandy just wants your kids to be just like her so then she will feel less judged for her own actions IMHO. Seems to be an SOP if you look at her reaction to her pregnancy. Her only thought was to herself, not the guy, not the baby, her own mental state was all that got her attention. Having sex with 50 men a year probably feels great while she is doing it, but you can not live in our culture and not recieve a stigma for it. Noone wants to be known as the neighborhood doorknob or company clearing barrel, but if everyone acted like that then it would recieve less attention. Kinda like 50 years ago no woman in her right mind would probably wear a skirt that didn’t go pass midthigh, but now that is not only normal you can see the top of the thong peaking out the back just below a nice tattoo of a butterfly.
Comment by Alec Leamas on 1/5 @ 11:43 am #
“I think it was a sideways boast that some man offered to marry her, which is important for you to know.”
Bingo. Same with the libertine affect.
Comment by B Moe on 1/5 @ 11:45 am #
Having sex with 50 men a year probably feels great while she is doing it, but you can not live in our culture and not recieve a stigma for it.
Especially if you spend all the rest of the time bitching about being treated as nothing but a sex object.
Comment by Carin on 1/5 @ 11:45 am #
Uhm … how is Prager wrong, and what indication do you have that he is only talking about conservatives?
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 1/5 @ 11:48 am #
Of course alppuccino!
–
Manhanda is actually promoting the phenomena of teen girls becoming involved in unhealthy relationships that will affect their future relationships and sink their self esteem.
Exactly Alec.
That is the nut right there.
Comment by parsnip on 1/5 @ 11:49 am #
Because Democratic wives never deny their partner sex, Carin.
Duh!
Comment by Alec Leamas on 1/5 @ 11:50 am #
“Especially if you spend all the rest of the time bitching about being treated as nothing but a sex object.”
Marcotte is living proof that women who complain about being treated as sex objects, and women who are actually treated as sex objects are mutually exclusive groups.
Comment by alppuccino on 1/5 @ 11:52 am #
how is Prager wrong, and what indication do you have that he is only talking about conservatives?
parsnip thinks Democrat women service their men upon each and every request.
Hey parsnip, send me all of your paper money and I’ll mail you back twice as much in gold.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 1/5 @ 11:53 am #
210
How right you are.
http://www.joebess.com/100yr/P1050537tn6.jpg
Comment by alppuccino on 1/5 @ 11:54 am #
Congrats parsnip. You successfully farted on my joke. You won that one.
Comment by Carin on 1/5 @ 11:58 am #
Parsnip, I believe Mandy’s big, long screed regarding Prager’s argument was that men aren’t supposed to expect sex. That women are not merely there for a man’s gratification, and that if they ain’t getting it, they should just deal. They’re prolly not being sensitive enough.
Comment by bill on 1/5 @ 11:58 am #
Parsnip’s last comment is proof positive he/she/it is unmarried,gay a eunuch or a wanker. To categorize all Dem wives as Stepford blowup dolls is the remark of someone on the outside looking in. The world doesn’t spin that way, dumbass.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 1/5 @ 12:00 pm #
Parsnip all kidding aside this should make you very happy.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30143
Pelosi really is the gift that keeps on giving. Did she mean any of the things she said in 2006 or were those just blatant lies? Blatant lies I guess.
Comment by Alec Leamas on 1/5 @ 12:03 pm #
It is also quite obvious that between adult parents and teenagers, Marcotte can only ever seem to identify with the teens. She never considers concerns that a parent might have in parenting one of these teens making their way ‘round the block. I think she is telling us much more about her arrested development than she knows.
Comment by Alec Leamas on 1/5 @ 12:06 pm #
“Parsnip, I believe Mandy’s big, long screed regarding Prager’s argument was that men aren’t supposed to expect sex. That women are not merely there for a man’s gratification, and that if they ain’t getting it, they should just deal. They’re prolly not being sensitive enough.â€Â
All the while, they were rigid in their belief that there is no difference in sexual appetites between the sexes. Therefore, Prager (because it was really all about his sex life, you see) was so disgusting that he ‘turned off’ women who really, really wanted sex, but just not with him, despite having married him.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 1/5 @ 12:13 pm #
Maybe it was just international BJ week Alec.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/5 @ 12:13 pm #
Carin, who are you talking to? No one in this thread mentioned Prager.
Comment by Alec Leamas on 1/5 @ 12:13 pm #
BTW, Darleen, at one point Marcotte had stated that rightwingers calling her “Mandy” is misogynist for some reason or another.
Just so you know you’re hating all women . . .
Comment by DarthRove on 1/5 @ 12:15 pm #
Because Democratic wives never deny their partner sex, Carin.
Um, Bill? Hillary? Other than the obvious one time, jes’ sayin’, snippy.
Comment by Zelda on 1/5 @ 12:21 pm #
“My point is simple. If you truly thought divorcing sex from procreation was a “fool’s mistakeâ€Â, you wouldn’t use contraception.â€Â
I’m late to this one, but I just wanted to say that the decision to use, and the act of using contraception means that you haven’t separated sex from procreation. It means that you are attempting to mitigate the procreative consequences of sex, which is fine, but unless you don’t need contraception at all, it really isn’t possible to divorce one from the other.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 1/5 @ 12:21 pm #
I wonder if the mandy mentality is why there are so many adult female teachers preying on 14 year old boys?
Comment by Salt Lick on 1/5 @ 12:37 pm #
By her own words this guy is an “on again off again loverâ€Â
She offered her honor. I honored her offer. And all night long, I was on her and off her.
I denounce myself.
Comment by Carin on 1/5 @ 12:45 pm #
Carin, who are you talking to? No one in this thread mentioned Prager.
Parsnip brought him up. 203
Comment by Pablo on 1/5 @ 1:02 pm #
Thank Gaia that Amynda is still writing for the parenting blog Offsprung. How ever would people with children get by without insightful parenting advice like this and this?
Comment by Alec Leamas on 1/5 @ 1:10 pm #
“How ever would people with children get by without insightful parenting advice like this and this?”
Well, their motto is “Your life didn’t end when theirs began.” And by life, they mean “going to concerts and smoking righteous weed.”
I do think that Amynda’s advice of Diesel engine repair might be a slight bit more useful than her parenting advice.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/5 @ 1:14 pm #
There’s no text in comment 203, which is appropriate, because if it was written by alphie, there’s no content either.
Comment by Carin on 1/5 @ 1:15 pm #
Honestly, what does it say that a blog devoted to parents needs a woman who swears off breeding to write for them?
Seems sorta … hypocritical?
Comment by Carin on 1/5 @ 1:16 pm #
Rob, I don’t run firefox, so I’m not gifted with the ability to trollhammer.
Comment by BJTexs on 1/5 @ 1:19 pm #
Having Amynda write a parenting advice column is like asking Howard Hughes to lecture on personal hygiene.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 1/5 @ 1:24 pm #
“Marcotte is living proof that women who complain about being treated as sex objects, and women who are actually treated as sex objects are mutually exclusive groups.”
Alec, that was beautiful.
Comment by Alec Leamas on 1/5 @ 1:31 pm #
“Alec, that was beautiful.”
“Beauty is truth, truth beauty,” – that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.
Comment by Pablo on 1/5 @ 1:34 pm #
You know, if Amynda had taken her own advice and gotten sterilized when it was still legal, she wouldn’t have to worry about getting Sometimes Dude to pay for her abortions.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 1/5 @ 1:44 pm #
I want to place a bet right now that her “on again off again” was on and off right around the same times he went on and off the wagon. IMHO
Comment by Alec Leamas on 1/5 @ 1:58 pm #
“I want to place a bet right now that her “on again off again†was on and off right around the same times he went on and off the wagon.”
It was hard for him. The Texas College for the Blind has a very active Greek system.
Comment by Lt. York on 1/5 @ 2:14 pm #
“Having Amynda write a parenting advice column is like asking:”
We can do this all day…
Michael Vick for dog care advice.
Gary Busey on how to ride a motorcycle safely.
Britney Spears or Paris Hilton on how to keep your dignity.
and finally, Michael Jackson on child care.
Comment by B Moe on 1/5 @ 2:26 pm #
That site is a hoot, Pablo. I was amazed to learn that building an embassy in Iraq “means that they’ve got no intention in relinquishing control of Iraq, that it was intended to be a permanent colony of the United States.”
Which means we have, what? About 150 or so permanent colonies? Most of the world, in fact?
Comment by Jeffersonian on 1/5 @ 2:34 pm #
You know, if Amynda had taken her own advice and gotten sterilized when it was still legal, she wouldn’t have to worry about getting Sometimes Dude to pay for her abortions.
Hilarious, but I have a hunch that Michelle can’t even feign the depths of Mandy’s lunacy.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/5 @ 2:36 pm #
“Comment by BJTexs on 1/5 @ 1:19 pm #
Having Amynda write a parenting advice column is like asking Howard Hughes to lecture on personal hygiene.”
thor for sex advice.
seman for parsing English.
alfie for connecting to reality.
Comment by Synova on 1/5 @ 2:48 pm #
“It seems there is a lot of denial intended to cover up behavior that peers might find distasteful, and I wonder if that existential state-of-mind re-directs the cortex to create images of altars of deep, prayerful meditation in it’s stead.â€Â
To which someone replied: “I wish that this had been written in English, so that I might have understood the author’s meaning.”
If I could attempt a translation…
People in denial find that same denial bleeding over into other things, so instead of admitting to behavior that peers might find distasteful, we imagine prayer and meditation.
Personally, I’ll just go with the mad monkey sex.
I mean seriously… this is Ace of Spades… is anyone here thinking that their “peers” are going to disapprove of sex?
Comment by maggie katzen on 1/5 @ 2:51 pm #
I wish you hadn’t said that, Synova….
Comment by Alec Leamas on 1/5 @ 3:06 pm #
“People in denial find that same denial bleeding over into other things, so instead of admitting to behavior that peers might find distasteful, we imagine prayer and meditation.”
Actually, unlike our favorite uterus at pandagon, I prefer to keep the details of the life and times of lil’ Alec private. No Denial, just Decorum.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/5 @ 3:44 pm #
Jef has a sub-atomic particle named after him: the goldstino.
http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/citations/goldstino_1/
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 1/5 @ 3:54 pm #
I totally get Amanda now!
I think parsnip was Amanda’s “sometimes-boyfriend, inconstant love.”
It wasn’t the expected free baby murder that hurt Amanda so much. She has a Sports Clips like discount card at Planned Parenthood. That sixth abortion was fucking free and she damn well knew it. See Mandy just LOVES her some abortion and wanted to spin that particular passion with a story that proved, at some point, a dude had sex with her on purpose. Ya know, rather than her usual man-rape of some poor bastard, Kathy Bates-Misery style. That “dude” was snippy.
Snippy…she loved you. Why you no pay to kill & vacuum baby like good liberal?
Alas, I’m thinking the parsnip/ Mandy “baby murder break up” was probably more like that scene in Mallrats.
Mandy just couldn’t marry a douche like parsnip, who had $57 dollars in his checking account, could only muster two-minute humps in his room in his Mom’s basement…only to roll off her, and immediately pick up the Sega controller and unpause his game of 1996 NHL Hockey.
So she says she “threw a phone at the wall.” That was artistic license. No, actually she ripped down parsnip’s Spiderman poster, stole his copy of Marvel Team Up, and escaped out a window of his Mother’s house.
Then parsnip goes to the mall to slack with that other douche bag, assclown.
Aaaaand…SCENE.
parsnip, I know you miss Mandy. Just get your Mom to buy you a Margret Sanger Barbie.**
**That Barbie is just like Mandy! It comes complete with an aborted fetus, a “Why Eugenics? Cuz fuck darkies & retards, that’s why” bumper sticker, a screaming “Angry Vagina,” and four suitcases full of Daddy issues.
DO NOT put your GI Joe’s anywhere near her.
Comment by Mossberg500 on 1/5 @ 4:04 pm #
Thanks Lamont! I needed a good laugh.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 1/5 @ 4:08 pm #
“Thanks Lamont! I needed a good laugh.”
My pleasure shotgun.
Comment by Alec Leamas on 1/5 @ 4:16 pm #
“pleasure shotgun”
Methinks I have a new name for Lil’ Alec.
Comment by Mossberg500 on 1/5 @ 4:20 pm #
I may be changing my moniker to Glock20 soon.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 1/5 @ 4:30 pm #
“I may be changing my moniker to Glock20 soon.”
Is that the 10mm? If it is, I’ve heard good things. Got a custom Colt Commander for Christmas.
“Methinks I have a new name for Lil’ Alec.”
You cheeky bastard. I should have thought of that.
Comment by Synova on 1/5 @ 4:44 pm #
#243
Yeah… goes to show that when I make a mistake I make it BIG.
LOL.
Dang it.
And the really funny thing is that I was going to say something specific to PW and *corrected* myself before I did, because I thought… no wait… got that wrong. *sigh*
So am I banished?
Comment by Mikey NTH on 1/5 @ 4:56 pm #
‘Pleasure shotgun’
Sounds like it should have been the title to a mid-seventies dance song. You could have so much fun with that…
“Baby you’re the one,
You’re gonna crack,
When you hear me rack,
My Pleasure Shot-gun.”
(cue wa-wa guitar and synthesizers, then drum solo)
Comment by Carin on 1/5 @ 5:01 pm #
Synova – as long as Jeff doesn’t see it, you should be ok.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 1/5 @ 5:14 pm #
“So am I banished?”
Not at all. Mistakes happen. Do that AOS thing.
Blame it on a hobo…then kill, cook & eat him.
No witnesses.
Qu’il est Madame.
Comment by mcgruder on 1/5 @ 5:16 pm #
i think we can stop beating around Amanda’s bush.
when she says “lover,” it translates into “Man who ejaculates in my general vicinity.”
that the dems managed to win an election with people like her being relevant is impressive.
PS: Parsnip, what’s your problem with the missionary position?
Comment by Alec Leamas on 1/5 @ 5:29 pm #
“i think we can stop beating around Amanda’s bush.”
[wretch] What are the chances that it isn’t hip to hip and belly button to lower back?
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 1/5 @ 5:45 pm #
“PS: Parsnip, what’s your problem with the missionary position?”
Snippy found out that the missionary position was how his pathetic life was conceived…in the back seat of a 1968 Buick Skylark… in the parking lot of a Waffle House… just off the last exit on the big highway to no where.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 1/5 @ 6:06 pm #
“What are the chances that it isn’t hip to hip and belly button to lower back?”
You dirty sexist!!!!!!!11!!!!!!
It’s her RIGHT to fire the gardener, and work up a 70’s porn “hair diaper.” It’s her RIGHT to turn on the lights mid-coitus and freak out some (piss drunk) dude into thinking he’s having sex with a hairy ape. Damn you phallic thingy patriarchs! Have you no shame? It’s her RIGHTS!!!ELEVENTY!! She needs something to write about. Ya know, about “How dare he be grossed out by my arm pit hair and super strong Grizzly Bear Vag.”
You penis bearers are selfish and awful.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/5 @ 6:11 pm #
#Comment by mcgruder on 1/5 @ 5:16 pm #
PS: Parsnip, what’s your problem with the missionary position?”
The very few time alfie was with a woman, it’s the only poisition he would use.
Daddy told him to “Never fuck up!”
Comment by thor on 1/5 @ 6:15 pm #
I bet you date the same guy.
Comment by dre on 1/5 @ 6:19 pm #
Listening to Glen Greenwald of Salon talking about Israel on Hugh Hewitt is akin to the visual pleasure of seeing a post by parsnip
Comment by thor on 1/5 @ 6:24 pm #
Stop buying your meds from Sarah Palin’s relatives and stop roaming the school yards with lollipops in you hand and a bulge in your pants, P’brain.
How’s that, JHo?
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 1/5 @ 6:28 pm #
“I bet you date the same guy.”
You pick a post from damn near 5 hours ago to snark on?
Look, find your sack (I know it’s tiny so take as much time as you need), take off your water wings, and paddle to the deep end of the pool.
We’ll wait.
Jackass.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 1/5 @ 6:38 pm #
“Stop buying your meds from Sarah Palin’s relatives and stop roaming the school yards with lollipops in you hand and a bulge in your pants, P’brain.
How’s that, JHo?”
Jesus Christ!? How drunk are you? None of that made a fucking lick of sense. Yeah, you typed it and all, but I can actually hear the incoherent words being slurred.
It’s fucking Monday night at 6:32…I guess maybe 7:32 if you’re dumb ass is on the EC, but shit…ain’t no football on right now. And you’re THAT drunk?
You need 12 steps and a fucking sponsor…like, yesterday.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/5 @ 6:39 pm #
“Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 1/5 @ 6:28 pm #
“I bet you date the same guy.â€Â
You pick a post from damn near 5 hours ago to snark on?”
He took his meds, took a nice long nap and now they’ve worn off.
So he’s back to being his repulsive, Neanderthal, knuckle-dragging self.
Pitiful, just pitiful.
Comment by thor on 1/5 @ 6:43 pm #
Slowly put the lollipop down.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 1/5 @ 6:43 pm #
Reminder: this is thor.
Comment by easyliving1 on 1/5 @ 6:45 pm #
Pardon me if I find the whole situation disengenuous.A.M.
Pardon my pussy.Dorothy “Dottie” Parker
Comment by thor on 1/5 @ 6:46 pm #
Maybe tap you foot a little louder and widen your stance a bit, troll.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/5 @ 6:47 pm #
#Comment by thor on 1/5 @ 6:43 pm #
Slowly take your meds. Calm your Neanderthal, knuckle-dragging self.
Comment by thor on 1/5 @ 6:50 pm #
REminder: this is how sPies rolls.
Comment by parsnip on 1/5 @ 6:53 pm #
It is an axiom of contemporary Republican marital life that if a wife is not in the mood, she need not have sex with her husband. Here are some arguments why a woman who loves her husband might want to rethink this axiom.
Noted wingnut sex guru Dennis Prager
http://townhall.com/Columnists/DennisPrager/2008/12/23/when_a_woman_isnt_in_the_mood_part_i?page=1
Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/5 @ 6:56 pm #
alfie, your Dad’s mad at you.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/5 @ 6:57 pm #
Comment by thor on 1/5 @ 6:50 pm #
Go take your meds, thor. Take another nice long nap.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 1/5 @ 7:14 pm #
“Slowly put the lollipop down.”
thor…”Slowly put the bottle down.”
Brush the imaginary creepy crawlies off your skin… then call Cirque Lodge & do that whole “intervention/ rehab thingy.”
I saw it on A&E. You’ll fit right in.
You’ll like this place thor, it’s where Lindsay Lohan went!
100% cured in three weeks from never.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 1/5 @ 7:29 pm #
#259 LYBD:
Your scenario assumes that the male is drunk enough to start this action, yet (1) not drunk enough to just pass out, (2) need the lights on to recognize what he is doing and to whom/what, and (3) get the shot-gun racked.
Sounds like a total suspension of disbelief to me. But I could be wrong.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 1/5 @ 7:48 pm #
Mikey NTH:
Your challenge constitutes a “word problem,” and I was told, up front, that there would be no math on this blog.
If a train leaves the station traveling at 60mph, I don’t give a shit what happens next.
Period.
Unless there’s a derailment/ explosion.
In which no one gets hurt.
But prefferably in Europe.
With video.
Because it would annoy them and cause tantrums and such.
Again, nobody hurt, just good TV and whatnot.
And my shitty math would have in no way caused it.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 1/5 @ 8:02 pm #
Ah LYBD; I was just having fun. I have had the ‘crazy girlfriend’ before.
Upon reflection, my girlfriends have mostly fallen in the ‘crazy’ category – which is why I stopped dating. I don’t have the mental stamina to deal with all of it anymore. After forty years of life it just isn’t worth dealing with more drama than a Shakespeare Festival collided with an avant-garde street-fair.
Comment by parsnip on 1/5 @ 8:12 pm #
I have had the ‘crazy girlfriend’ before.
Malkin is right: There is original reporting being done on right wing blogs.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 1/5 @ 8:48 pm #
I mean – I have scars on my hands, but those are because of accidents with bow-saws while clearing brush or cutting fire wood (yes, a sharp steel blade will cut through a leather glove). But I’ve never cut myself on purpose! That girl had some weapons-grade crazy, and I was just lucky she gave me my walking papers, which I was glad to receive.
Do. Not. Need. That. Drama.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/5 @ 9:00 pm #
This just in: alfie is a fucking idiot.
Film at 11.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 1/5 @ 9:39 pm #
Don’t knock the crazy ones Mikey NTH. They keep you young.
Besides, your not a man until you’ve filled out paperwork for a restraining order, or some crazy chick has burned most of your clothes on the front lawn.
(Whoops)…kind of repeated myself there.
Comment by Pellegri on 1/5 @ 9:50 pm #
@282: If the film doesn’t involve him peeing on an electric fence or getting carted into the emergency room for making love to a vacuum cleaner, I’ll be sorely disappointed.
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 1/5 @ 10:04 pm #
“If the film doesn’t involve him peeing on an electric fence or getting carted into the emergency room for making love to a vacuum cleaner, I’ll be sorely disappointed.”
Sorry. While I’m sure that film exists, unfortunately it’s not “Sweeps Week,” so the networks won’t run it yet.
Nancy Grace will pick up the Alfie film around May.
Maybe.
Comment by Swen Swenson on 1/5 @ 10:53 pm #
Had to check the time of posting when I read that. Glad to see you waited until after 5pm, there are some conventions that must be maintained :D
Comment by Pellegri on 1/5 @ 11:51 pm #
Awwww. :( I can’t wait until May!
Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/6 @ 5:41 am #
It’s alphie, so odds are he’d be making love to an electric fence or peeing on a vacuum cleaner. Little feeb’ can’t do anything right.
Comment by TheUnrepentantGeek on 1/6 @ 1:35 pm #
All of thor’s pedo accusations are creeping me out. Truly hope it’s not projection, but he goes back to that one insult so very often that one has to wonder.
Sometimes I wonder if he’s trying to get one of those robot-based web filters to erroneously block the site so that fewer people can read it.
Comment by eaglewingz08 on 1/6 @ 7:21 pm #
But lib women love mullahs and muslim fanatics. You don’t seen them protesting islamic patriarchs at all. Then all of a sudden ‘cultural values’ take precedence over women’s rights. If cultural values trump women’s rights then how are women’s rights a fundamental right that should be enshrined in constitutional or even statutory laws?
Comment by thor on 1/7 @ 11:04 pm #
Robot-based? Twist your lingo much, geek genius?
Comment by eaglewingz08 on 1/6 @ 7:21 pm #
But lib women love mullahs and muslim fanatics. You don’t seen them protesting islamic patriarchs at all. Then all of a sudden ‘cultural values’ take precedence over women’s rights. If cultural values trump women’s rights then how are women’s rights a fundamental right that should be enshrined in constitutional or even statutory laws?
Project much, culture warrior?
Comment by Mark A. Flacy on 1/8 @ 12:40 am #
Thor spreads his cheeks and opines…
Web crawlers are also known as web robots, thor.
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