Behold Meryl Yourish in a proud rage, regarding anti-war demos by Yemeni and Iranian Jews:
Before Israel was created, Jews made no waves, kept their heads down, and publicly went along with whatever the prevailing sentiment was in their country. The Jews were essentially a subject people in every nation (save America), putting up with pretty much everything the host nation dished out, quietly, and without fighting back.
Sadly, the Jews in Iran and Yemen are perfect examples of the Jews of the past. They’re the Jews that Hamas and Fatah want to see in the faux state of Palestine. They’re the Jews that the world sighs for in nostalgiaâ€â€and in secret. Or maybe not so secret. Because one of the things that the world has been unable to accept these past sixty years is a strong defense of Jews, by Jews, for Jews.
That’s why you have so many people calling for Israel to stop their war against Hamas. Because we’re not the good little dhimmis we were in Europe and Arabia. We’re no longer standing quietly for pogroms and murders.
Comment by Lt. York on 12/31 @ 10:54 am #
As a Catholic here in Omaha, I’ve actually found myself more pro-Israeli than some Jews here..
Comment by AJB on 12/31 @ 10:57 am #
Glad to know that colonization and economic strangulation of an entire population is justified if it’s done by people who themselves have a long history of being persecuted. Zionism is basically the ultimate form of identity politics.
Comment by The Sanity Inspector on 12/31 @ 11:01 am #
AJB:
Zionism was the most realistic of the 20th century’s “isms”. The other major isms did want to kill Jews, and actively sought to do more of it.
Remember too, that Palestinians voted for Hamas, meaning that they voted for the violent extinction of Israel.
Comment by Patrick Chester on 12/31 @ 11:01 am #
AJB: No, you do not know.
Comment by Lt. York on 12/31 @ 11:07 am #
“Glad to know that colonization and economic strangulation of an entire population is justified if it’s done by people who themselves have a long history of being persecuted. Zionism is basically the ultimate form of identity politics.”
Selective ignorance of history to support your supposed conclusion does your argument no favors…
Comment by Log Cabin on 12/31 @ 11:11 am #
Yep AJB, we need to get rid of the one functioning democracy, the one friend of America, the one respecter of human rights in the Middle East and then all will be well.
Leftards say that they hate dictators, yet they always seem to side with them, don’t they? Hmmm.
Comment by Carin on 12/31 @ 11:12 am #
Glad to know that colonization and economic strangulation of an entire population
And, what “entire population” would that be? What is the history and traditions of this “entire population”?
Comment by TheUnrepentantGeek on 12/31 @ 11:16 am #
Translation: If you Jews would quit rabble rousing and die quietly, I’d like you more.
Please. The entirety of Palestinian identity has become nothing more than a weapon fashioned with one purpose: to push the Jews into the sea. The “can’t we all get along” garbage coming from the left is worthy of nothing but ridicule - platitudes do not end blood feuds, and it is foolish to think otherwise.
The population of which you speak could be housed easily in any of the many, large Islamic nations surrounding the tiny nation of Israel. Those nations could render aid if they chose. But doing so would disarm or disable their weapon and the very existence of the Jewish state is such an affront to the Arabs in that region that it must be destroyed. It’s the very reason Hamas, the elected government of Palestine, exists.
Palestinians could have had peace. They could have had their two state solution in Arafat’s time. But instead they chose death. And will continue to do so until it hurts too much to continue.
Comment by Carin on 12/31 @ 11:22 am #
Why would Arafat wanted a two-state solution, Unrepentantgeek. When he died, he had accumulated about a billion dollars for himself. Who know that freedom fighting gig was so lucrative?
But, enough about him - lets focus on the poor, starving “Palestinians” reduced to eating grass for survival.
Comment by SDN on 12/31 @ 11:22 am #
Colonization? WTF?
The Jews bought the original lands they settled on in Palestine. From the Turks who were the governing power. Then the UN, whose absolute moral authority must be respected in every other area, set up a Jewish state, Israel, and an Arab state, Jordan.
The Jewish state did not start any of the 5 wars. The lands they took by force of arms after defeating their enemies are likewise legally theirs. As for economic strangulation, when Israel withdrew from Gaza, they left behind large amounts of infrastructure, including greenhouses in which fruits, vegetables, and flowers could be grown and sold. What do the Muslim morons do? Burn them to the ground.
The Palestinians are nothing but a convenient bargaining chip for Islam. The entire population is the result of three generations of Muslim propaganda induced psychosis. They pretty much define the phrase “beyond salvage.” Let them surrender, or die.
Comment by Ric Locke on 12/31 @ 11:28 am #
More to Ms. Yourish’s point — it has to be one of the scariest thoughts a European can possibly confront: Jews who shoot back. Horrifying. What if they should generalize?
Regards,
Ric
Comment by Curmudgeon on 12/31 @ 11:34 am #
Remember when Fatah were supposed to be the “reasonable” Palestinigoons, and Hamas was beyond the pale and condemned? My, how the Left’s goalposts are ever shifting.
Comment by Carin on 12/31 @ 11:34 am #
AJB give up already? bummer.
Comment by Carin on 12/31 @ 11:35 am #
The irony of this issue, is that most (not all ) conservative support Israel EVEN THOUGH Jewish Americans overwhelmingly vote for liberals.
I wonder what would account for that?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/31 @ 11:35 am #
Just hope the Israelis finish the job this time, and ignore “world opinion” that hates the very fact of their existence.
Comment by SmokeVanThorn on 12/31 @ 11:38 am #
Does AJB stand for Always Jew Bashing?
Comment by scooter (still not libby) on 12/31 @ 11:40 am #
Haven’t the Israelis won every war started by their Arab neighbors? Hasn’t all of the Israeli “colonization” been on land they acquired by winning these wars that they themselves did not start?
These are honest questions.
Comment by Bob Reed on 12/31 @ 11:42 am #
I think that Yourish goes a bit far when saying; “…one of the things that the world has been unable to accept these past sixty years is a strong defense of Jews, by Jews, for Jews.” I don’t think the entire world has been against them, only a selct league of nations…
But Other than that she’s right on…
But, the behavior of the Yemeni and Iranian Jews may be more about self-preservation amongst an intolerant Muslim majority more than anything else; about being a good little dhimmi…
Not so much out of knowing where there place is, but for literal survival!
Curiously, this is really analogous to what’s going on in Gaza, right now as well as in the short continuum of their political history. Hamas keeps getting voted in due to mis-placed ethnic pride and frankly because it is not healthy to oppose their ideology in public; lest one be branded a zionist sympathizer, which is a veritable death sentance.
But very much like Al Sadr’s crew in Iraq, if the people would rise up in oppostition and demand bringing their dissolution, things would be much better off for both sides. It’s no secret that Hamas is instigating the conflict, as is par for the course. And, if events play out as usual, the Israelis will go far enough to weaken Hamas, but in the face of global Outrage! will again fail to completely destroy them. Ironically, if the Palestinians in Gaza would reject Hamas once and for all, they would probably never have to fear Israeli military action ever again…
But that won’t work for thise who favor Israeli national dhimmitude…
Comment by cranky-d on 12/31 @ 11:43 am #
Not only that, scooter SNL, they have given most of the land back over the years.
Comment by Jason G. Williscroft on 12/31 @ 11:56 am #
The only survivable response to an existential threat is elimination of the threat.
Comment by panther girl on 12/31 @ 11:59 am #
Hey, any of you guys know any good books on this topic? I am so ignorant of the history of that region. Thanks much!
Comment by Froederick Kennewick on 12/31 @ 12:13 pm #
Panther Girl,
The Israel-Arab Reader: A Documentary History of the Middle East Conflict, 7th Edition, Walter Laqueur and Barry Rubin
Complete, unbiased, and has all the original documents including such things as the Sykes-Picot Agreement & Balfour Declaration, through the various UN statments, Camp David Accords, and up to present.
Pure moonbatbane because it has pesky things like facts.
Comment by Log Cabin on 12/31 @ 12:35 pm #
Why, oh why, do liberal democrats absolutely refuse to take Islamists at their word that their goal is the destruction of Isreal?
They proclaim this goal loudly and openly. Yet many will not accept the truth of it. Why?
Comment by McGehee on 12/31 @ 12:50 pm #
I used to think it was because they themselves never mean anything they say in public, so they assume Islamists are lying too.
Now I think their attitude is that the Islamists’ goal isn’t a bug, it’s a feature. Not accept the truth of it? They agree with it.
Comment by Rusty on 12/31 @ 1:23 pm #
#10
The Palestinians are nothing but a convenient bargaining chip for Islam. The entire population is the result of three generations of Muslim propaganda induced psychosis. They pretty much define the phrase “beyond salvage.†Let them surrender, or die.
just-can’t-seem-to-get-this-fucking-banana-out-of-this-jar!
Comment by Sdferr on 12/31 @ 1:25 pm #
Panther Girl, I’ll second Froederick above as to the first-rate value of the Israel-Arab Reader. For a short piece on today’s fight written by that same Barry Rubin, look here.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 1:25 pm #
AJB
Zionism is basically the ultimate form of identity politics
If an Italian is proud of Italy and self-identifies as an Italian rather than a Citizen of the World, do you have a problem with that?
If not, then to ascribe anything different to Zionism then examine your premise. Are you uninformed about Zionism or merely just another run-of-the-mill anti-Semite leftist?
Comment by parsnip on 12/31 @ 1:31 pm #
Went into town for dinner last night and came across an anti-Israel demonstration!
Two maybe three hundred sign-waving folks protesting Israel’s pointless tantrum.
Quite a surprise.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 1:34 pm #
I realize AJB is a one-shot drive-by commenter but if he is lurking maybe he should consider that “Palestinians” are an invention. Arafat was an Egyptian and what we refer to as “Palestinians” are Arabs, majority of those that have no historical ties to the land of Israel.
There is no “Palestinian” history … no coinage, no kings, no buildings, no ruins of ancient “Palestinian” kingdoms. The name “Palestine” comes from the Romans — a corrupted version of “Phillistine” which the Romans called the area of conquered Israel in 70 AD in order to wipe out the Jewish history of the area.
But just as Muhammed cribbed the Bible and Jewish tradition for his new religion, so have Arab-”Palestinians” tried to steal Jewish history and call it their own.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 1:36 pm #
ah, and root veggie shows up to contribute more Judenhass if AJB fails to return.
Comment by B Moe on 12/31 @ 1:38 pm #
Went into town for dinner last night and came across an anti-Israel demonstration!
Two maybe three hundred sign-waving folks protesting Israel’s pointless tantrum.
Quite a surprise.
I’ll bet you are surprised every morning when the sun comes up.
Comment by parsnip on 12/31 @ 1:38 pm #
Judging by their signs and manner of dress these were Jews protesting Israel’s action’s Darleen.
When will you accept the fact that you’re just a right wing extremist?
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 1:42 pm #
Oh my, root veggie can tell a Jew by looking at them!
How did you do that, veggie? Was the hook noses or the funny hats? Tell us more.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 1:43 pm #
veggie would have us believe only his Citizen Of The World non-Jewish Jew is a Real Jew(tm).
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/31 @ 1:43 pm #
tight pants.
Comment by Benedick on 12/31 @ 1:45 pm #
Parsnip: Red herring much?
Comment by Mossberg500 on 12/31 @ 1:46 pm #
Tatoos?
Comment by B Moe on 12/31 @ 1:46 pm #
All the trolls need read this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Jerusalem-One-City-Three-Faiths/dp/0345391683
Karen Armstrong is one of you, you can trust her. But she is honest enough in her facts that anyone who reads this book and still calls the Israeli’s colonists is a fool and liar.
Comment by B Moe on 12/31 @ 1:47 pm #
The were cooking white babies on their tailgate grills, Darleen.
Comment by bill on 12/31 @ 1:51 pm #
A good book on the birth of modern day Israel and the perfidy of the Arabs is “Genesis 1948″ I can’t remember the author. I believe it’s out of print, but I’ve seen copies on half.com.
What town does Vegematic live in where 2 or 3 hundred anti- Israelis demonstrated? I would guess Bezerkely, Madison, Manhattan ,Beirut, Tehran or maybe the fever swamps of his own imagination.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 1:53 pm #
There has been a continuous Jewish presence in ME over 5000 years. Kings and kingdoms, artifacts and undisputed history.
Maybe our Judenhas trolls can present any evidence of a “Palestinian” king or currency.
Comment by Curmudgeon on 12/31 @ 1:55 pm #
Israel’s pointless tantrum
Parsimpdupe’s words are instructive. It’s a “tantrum” for a nation to respond to repeated mortar and rocket attacks on its citizens.
Comment by Benedick on 12/31 @ 1:58 pm #
Mustafa Aziz is the Palestinian King of Electronics. Check out his bodega at W 129th St and Madison.
Comment by parsnip on 12/31 @ 2:00 pm #
The personnel, equipment and tactics Israel’s using in Gaza have no chance of stopping the rockets and mortars, Curm.
That’s what makes it a tantrum.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 2:02 pm #
Bill
the Leftist, Anti-American (but I’m being redundant) A.N.S.W.E.R. called a “day of action” yesterday, in communal anti-Semitic solidarity with the Muslim American Society and others, so the usual moonbats jumped at a chance at a little street theater.
root veggie posts from the Bellvue, WA area, and Seattle has a good contigent of those that loves their giant paper mache puppets.
Hey, snippy, WERE there puppets?
Comment by SpaceCat on 12/31 @ 2:02 pm #
“We’re no longer standing quietly for pogroms and murders.”
Now, we’re conducting them ourselves! And ghettoization too.
You Likud-ites need to realize that it’s not anti-Semetic to criticize the Israeli state. Stop hiding behind that canard. It almost makes it seem like you can’t win the debate on its merits. Oh, wait.
Comment by Benedick on 12/31 @ 2:04 pm #
GOod thing they shared their whole strategic battle plan with you parsnip, so that you know what you’re talking about. Because you’re the only non-member of the IDF or the Israeli government who’s been given that access. If they hadn’t shared that secret information with you — giving you the foundation for delivering your assessment — an observer might conclude that you’re talking out of your ass.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 2:04 pm #
root veggie
Israel’s doing nothing in response to thousands of rockets haven’t stopped them either. Just because Hamas demands Jews cease to exist in order to have “peace” doesn’t mean the Jews have to oblige so you can have a quiet dinner.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 2:06 pm #
SpacedOutFeline
Step away from the catnip, queeny. You might like to investigagte a few actual facts before coming off as another Jew-hating troll.
Comment by Sdferr on 12/31 @ 2:07 pm #
Conducting pogroms? Where?
Comment by Curmudgeon on 12/31 @ 2:08 pm #
The personnel, equipment and tactics Israel’s using in Gaza have no chance of stopping the rockets and mortars, Curm.
Oh yes they do. Killing the perps solves it quite well.
Comment by parsnip on 12/31 @ 2:10 pm #
Israel’s leaders might gain a few supporters outside of the Likudnik community if they were just honest and called their attacks on Gaza collective punishment, Darleen.
Comment by SpaceCat on 12/31 @ 2:14 pm #
I got your pogrom right here:
Olmert ‘ashamed’ by ‘pogrom’ in Hebron
December 7, 2008
JERUSALEM (JTA) — Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called the violence in Hebron following the evacuation of a disputed house a “pogrom.”
“Immediately after the evacuation, there were actions that cannot be described except as attempted pogroms by Jews from the Hebron area and other areas against Palestinian residents in Judea and Samaria,” Olmert said at the beginning of Sunday’s Cabinet meeting.
He went on to say, “We are the children of a people whose historic ethos is built on the memory of pogroms. The sight of Jews firing at innocent Palestinians has no other name than pogrom. Even when Jews do this, it is a pogrom. As a Jew, I am ashamed that Jews could do such a thing.”
Olmert told the Cabinet that he and Defense Minister Ehud Barak “are instructing the security forces to do their utmost to prevent illegal and violent actions by Jews toward Palestinians in all areas under the responsibility of the State of Israel.”
Some 20 families and about 250 protesters were evacuated from Hebron’s Peace House, also called the House of Contention, on the night of Dec. 4. The evacuation came after Israel’s High Court of Justice upheld a government order that the house be emptied until a district court can determine ownership of the four-story, strategically located building.
Following the evacuations, young Jewish settlers reportedly terrorized Hebron’s Palestinian community, setting fires and smashing windows. Two Kiryat Arba residents allegedly fired into a Palestinian crowd, injuring a Palestinian man and his son, according to Palestinian reports.
The two men turned themselves in to police on Saturday, saying they were in danger at the time of the shooting and fired in self-defense, Ynet reported.
The Jerusalem Magistrates’ Court on Sunday remanded one of the men, Ze’ev Brauda, after police told the court that his actions were a provocation.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 2:14 pm #
parsnip
collective punishment
You don’t really know the Geneva Convention, do you? And my bet would be you blame America for dropping the A bomb on Hiroshima.
Comment by SpaceCat on 12/31 @ 2:16 pm #
So, Darleen, by your unimpeachable logic, you hate Arabs. Classy.
Comment by Pablo on 12/31 @ 2:17 pm #
SpacedCat,
Olmert, you say? What’s he up to these days?
Comment by B Moe on 12/31 @ 2:18 pm #
And because the Palestinians have reported no such misdemeanors and punishments of their own people, that proves Israel is in the wrong, huh SpaceCat?
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 2:18 pm #
The two men turned themselves in to police on Saturday
Guess you just like skipping over the parts where Israel holds criminals responsible rather than passing out sweets and naming streets after murderers.
Ignorant or Jew-hater? Post more, feline, so we can understand why you comment.
Comment by assclown on 12/31 @ 2:18 pm #
“So, Darleen, by your unimpeachable logic, you hate Arabs.”
No, just all Muslims. All of em. Every single one. Cause Islam is a religion of hate and every Muslim in the entire world wants to destroy America. Ain’t that right, Darleen? Do tell.
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/31 @ 2:19 pm #
aw, moved on to not providing more links, have we?
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 2:20 pm #
Feline,
I don’t hate Arabs. I hate murdering Arabs/Iranians/Jews/Italians/Africans/Americans/Japanese ….
need another cluebat?
Comment by Pablo on 12/31 @ 2:21 pm #
Refresh my memory, assclown. Which side was it that wanted to bail out on (Muslim) Iraq and the Iraqi people and leave them to al-Qaeda’s tender mercies? And which side was it that wanted to stay and see the (Muslim) Iraqi people through the tough times?
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 2:23 pm #
Sore Ass needs another clue.
Nothing wrong with Islam or moslems. I know, work, friends with moslems.
Islamists are different. I’m as opposed to Islamism as I am to fascism.
Comment by assclown on 12/31 @ 2:26 pm #
“aw, moved on to not providing more links, have we?”
You getting tired of this? Cause I’m not!
Also, Pablo and Darleen need to get their talking points straight. Are Muslims the root of the world’s woes or aren’t they? The echo chamber demands an answer!
Comment by parsnip on 12/31 @ 2:27 pm #
Admitting they’re committing war crimes in Gaza is no big deal for Israel’s leaders, darleen.
The world can already see that.
The real problem is they will soon have to send in the sacrificial lambs of the IDF if they don’t change their propaganda…or look like idiots.
How can the same people who lost to Hezbollah still be in charge of Israel?
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/31 @ 2:29 pm #
Comment by urthshu on 12/31 @ 2:29 pm #
Oh, I pretty much hate ‘em all. Useless troublemaking shit-stirring fkrs, every one of ‘em. But I do very much want a Pali state established so that Israel can kick their fkn asses fair and square.
Comment by assclown on 12/31 @ 2:31 pm #
“Oh, I pretty much hate ‘em all. ”
And another vote for “kill ‘em all”. Classical liberalism at it’s finest!
Comment by Chicagoan on 12/31 @ 2:33 pm #
Some of the more interesting books about the conflict are contemporary accounts; I’d look for them. They’re not as freighted with modern preconceptions and prejudices. Trus, many gray areas exist. Ultimately, I come out on the side of Israel and western civilzation.
Fuck off, alphie, you cunt.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 2:34 pm #
root veggie ups the Judenhas rhetoric … Israel responding to Hamas predation is a “war crime.”
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 2:35 pm #
Sore Ass
Are all moslems Islamist?
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 12/31 @ 2:36 pm #
#62. Don’t do it Pablo. There is nothing to be gained. I mean, that’s a great point and should be used for the usual lefty that uses the whole, “You hate all Muslims” bullshit tact. Because, hell, it’s obvious to anyone with half a brain that we helped far more Muslims than we hindered. Again, I say this as someone who was against the escalation of violence in Iraq. But it may be lost on dumbass and alphie.
Comment by assclown on 12/31 @ 2:36 pm #
You’re cute, Darleen… Too cute.
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/31 @ 2:37 pm #
may be?
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 2:37 pm #
Sore Ass
and when are you going to provide those links to maggie? or is this your variation of your SOP in not answering “Why did Obama lie?”
Comment by assclown on 12/31 @ 2:38 pm #
Darleen, you don’t even know what links maggie is begging for so shut the fuck up.
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/31 @ 2:39 pm #
no YOU shut the fuck up!
and provide a link, maybe, first.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 2:39 pm #
Sore Ass
I’m serious. Are all moslems Islamist?
If they are not, then your “are moslems the cause of the world’s problems?” is naked in its mendacity.
Comment by parsnip on 12/31 @ 2:39 pm #
Darleen plays the victim card once again.
What a surprise.
Comment by urthshu on 12/31 @ 2:39 pm #
Not really, assclown. Not much for genocide - thats the leftard Ideal. Nothing wrong with military victories, though.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 2:40 pm #
Sore Ass
So? You’re ducking maggie, so provide ‘em, coward.
Comment by assclown on 12/31 @ 2:40 pm #
maggie, you are making yourself look stupid. But please, continue. I’m enjoying it anyways. Beg me some more. Beg, little dog.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 2:41 pm #
Darleen plays the victim card once again.
You really need to stop doing shrooms so early in the day
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/31 @ 2:42 pm #
aw, you would know a lot about that wouldn’t you? but not about providing links for your “arguments”. I shall consult Phil Graham about this one.
Comment by assclown on 12/31 @ 2:43 pm #
Maybe if you beg just a LITTLE bit more I’ll dig up some rabid left wing rhetoric. Come on, girl! Higher, higher! You can do it!
Comment by Pablo on 12/31 @ 2:44 pm #
You need to answer the question in my #62 before you start asking me asinine ones like that, assclown. Especially when Darleen has already answered it.
Comment by Pablo on 12/31 @ 2:46 pm #
Hey, raise your hand if you think Saddam Hussein should still be in power.
Comment by assclown on 12/31 @ 2:47 pm #
“You need to answer the question in my #62 before you start asking me asinine ones like that, assclown.”
Your non sequitur is not in any way related to my point. So, no. I don’t have to do anything of the kind.
Nobody doubts some Muslims and their leaders want to destroy America. Duh.
Comment by parsnip on 12/31 @ 2:47 pm #
Shrooms, Darleen?
You’re the one who thinks she’s posting from a bomb shelter in Sderot instead of just killing time on your comfy government job here in the good ol’ U S of A.
Comment by assclown on 12/31 @ 2:48 pm #
C’mon maggie, girl! C’mon girl!
Comment by Pablo on 12/31 @ 2:51 pm #
It’s not a non-sequitur. It’s a question regarding your ideology, my ideology and where they fell in relation to a large group of Muslims. Answer it, coward.
Comment by Pablo on 12/31 @ 2:56 pm #
C’mon, assclown, boy! C’mon!
Life and death and millions of Muslims. Did you want to protect them or bail out on them, assclown?
Comment by Pablo on 12/31 @ 3:01 pm #
Space Cat got your tongue, assclown?
Comment by assclown on 12/31 @ 3:02 pm #
“It’s a question regarding your ideology, my ideology and where they fell in relation to a large group of Muslims.”
Really? Cause it looks to me like a cowardly and dishonest false dichotomy :
Either
A. you agree that all Muslims are trying to destroy America or
B. you hate America and her want to see her destroyed.
That about cover it?
With that, I’ll bid you adieu. Go out and have some fun tonight. In a morally responsible way, of course.
Comment by Pablo on 12/31 @ 3:16 pm #
Lame deflection, assclown. Don’t let the door hit you where the good Lord split you, coward. And come back when you can’t stay so long.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 3:17 pm #
root veggie
Ah, you’re jealous again because I actually have a job. And I don’t post from work, I’m way too busy doing the work you can’t or won’t do.
No wonder you covet my paycheck and support the Leftist ideology that declares I have less right to it precisely because I earned it.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 3:19 pm #
and root veggie …is that why you hate Jews? Because they won’t die just because you think they should?
Comment by Pablo on 12/31 @ 3:19 pm #
And when you do come back, tell us why you wished mass slaughter and oppression upon the millions of Muslims in Iraq. And then tell us again how it’s me that hates Muslims.
When I see you here again, I’ll be asking.
Comment by parsnip on 12/31 @ 3:21 pm #
80% of Jewish Americans vote Democratic year in year out, Darleen.
It’s you who is the extremist.
Why are you such a hater?
Gotta blame somebody for how your life turned out?
Comment by Jeffersonian on 12/31 @ 3:35 pm #
It would seem that totalitarians of any and all stripe are to be defended by the Left. If you’re a totalitarian Muslim, you’re to be wept over by the likes of Snippy, AC ANSWER, etc. If you’re a Muslim butchered by a totalitarian, sorry, but you jus’ been kilt.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 3:37 pm #
Comment by parsnip on 12/31 @ 3:21 pm #
Why do you hate Jews when you don’t understand the first thing about them?
Comment by parsnip on 12/31 @ 3:39 pm #
I understand people who throw around unfounded accusations tend to be extremists, Darleen.
Why do you hate Americans so much?
Comment by Jeffersonian on 12/31 @ 3:42 pm #
Snippy doesn’t hate Jews, he’s just a friend of barbarism in any form.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 3:53 pm #
Jeffersonian
Like other Leftists, root veggie only considers the non-Jewish Jews as “real.” His/her understanding of Jewish identity/history is wafer thin and full of muddleheaded assumptions - many of those assumptions rooted in anti-Semitism.
I obviously can’t shock the veggie into examining those assumptions so either Leftcultism or anti-Semitism keeps him/her spewing the same nonsense over and over again.
Comment by parsnip on 12/31 @ 3:58 pm #
Darleen,
Are you really calling the 80% of Jewish Americans who vote for the Democrats every single election “non-Jewish Jews?”
Comment by Jeffersonian on 12/31 @ 4:07 pm #
80% of American Jews want Israel to capitulate to Hamas? Does Rahm Emanuel know about this, Snippy?
Comment by Curmudgeon on 12/31 @ 4:08 pm #
Are you really calling the 80% of Jewish Americans who vote for the Democrats every single election “non-Jewish Jews?â€Â
The ever shifting goalpost.
Comment by ginsocal on 12/31 @ 4:08 pm #
Hey, assclown! There’s a good reason that they’re called, “the bloody borders of Islam.” Fuckers are pathologically unable to live alongside anyone else. And you retarded loons kiss their collective ass on a regular basis. Why would anyone take them, or you, seriously? You have proven yourselves to be decidedly un-serious.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 4:18 pm #
root veggie
what Jeffersonian asks at #106.
Why do you believe a “D” vote = pro-Hamas?
Comment by ushie on 12/31 @ 4:47 pm #
Oh, Snippy, Snippy. If Darleen is a right-wing extremist, I am your uncle.
Oh, and if any of you drink tonight, DON’T DRIVE. Spring for cabfare, you cheapwads.
Comment by Log Cabin on 12/31 @ 5:23 pm #
No drinking and driving here, Ushie! Having a few neighbors over for cards and to ring in the new year. Anyone stumbling after midnight will get walked home. Pray for me, I will have a house full of typical Bay Area libtards (but nice people).
Happy New Year to all you good folks (even thor and snippy)!
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/31 @ 5:34 pm #
good luck with that, Pablo. Phil let me know about ac’s, um, performance issues. I wouldn’t get my hopes up.
Comment by B Moe on 12/31 @ 5:46 pm #
Comment by assclown on 12/31 @ 2:40 pm
maggie, you are making yourself look stupid.
Heh.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/31 @ 6:47 pm #
“Comment by parsnip on 12/31 @ 2:00 pm #
The personnel, equipment and tactics Israel’s using in Gaza have no chance of stopping the rockets and mortars, Curm.”
They will if they do their job right and kill all the fucking terrorists.
Comment by parsnip on 12/31 @ 7:15 pm #
Come on Darleen.
Stand up for yor convictions!
Who are the “non-Jewish Jews” you’re talking about?
Comment by daleyrocks on 12/31 @ 7:35 pm #
“The personnel, equipment and tactics Israel’s using in Gaza have no chance of stopping the rockets and mortars, Curm.”
snippy - What are your alternative personnel, equipment and tactical suggestions for success, General? You do want success, don’t you?
Comment by maggie katzen on 12/31 @ 7:36 pm #
balloon fence and mile high dirt berm, daleyrocks. duh.
Comment by daleyrocks on 12/31 @ 7:39 pm #
Where was thor last Friday?
Feds Investigate After Man Covered in Feces Pummels Flight Attendant
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=251673
Comment by daleyrocks on 12/31 @ 7:40 pm #
Smacks open palm on forehead.
I forgot maggie.
Comment by Darleen on 12/31 @ 7:48 pm #
non-Jewish Jews are Jews ethnically but are not religious Jews. They can range from being apathetic about Judaism to being openly hostile to it. Chomsky, Marx, Judt are the latter category of ethnic Jews deadly hostile to their religious brethren. Some, like George Soros, are embarrassed to be Jews … and tend to blame Jews for anti-Semitism. “If only Jews didn’t [...] then the world would love us and accept us.”
On hating Jews
I note, root veggie, through all of this, not once have you held Hamas responsible for anything … Israel is to blame for “war crimes” or “disproportionate response” or “tantrums”. But a murderous ideology that clearly claims the goal of the erradication of Israel and the Jew? Pish and tosh, not a thing to worry about because it will only be those icky Jewish Jews that fall - and peace will ensue.
Comment by parsnip on 12/31 @ 7:58 pm #
I just suggested Israel try some other than their failed policy of collective punishment againsy Hamas, Darleen.
Of course, I suggested they try something effective against Hezbollah, as well.
And the last time they went into Gaza, too.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/31 @ 8:22 pm #
“Comment by parsnip on 12/31 @ 7:58 pm #
I just suggested Israel try some other than their failed policy of collective punishment againsy Hamas, Darleen.”
The only place the “failed policy of collective punishment” has failed is in your wee pea bain, alpo, because that is most definately NOT what the Isrealis are doing.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/31 @ 8:22 pm #
And repeating a lie does not make it the truth, alpo.
Comment by ginsocal on 12/31 @ 8:51 pm #
Oboy! Advice from noted geopolitical scholar parsnip! As if that bottom-dwelling douchebag would come up with anything that wasn’t fatal for Israel.
Comment by daleyrocks on 12/31 @ 9:18 pm #
“I just suggested Israel try some other than their failed policy of collective punishment againsy Hamas, Darleen.”
snippy - Mislabeling highly targeted attacks as collective punishment is a problem in your thiking right from the start. Plus, you haven’t actually suggested any alternatives that might be more successful in stopping the mortar and rocket attacks, or maybe I missed them.
Let’s hear those suggestions snippy!
Comment by parsnip on 12/31 @ 9:26 pm #
I’m a big fan of monkyboy’s Balloon Fence, daley.
Comment by Ag80 on 12/31 @ 9:27 pm #
I worked with a man, he’s name is Mizo — an Egyptian. He loves the United States. He knew that when he left Egypt and came to the U.S. he would have an opportunity to have success such as he never had in his home country.
We often talked late at night at the job. He liked me because I was a writer and he loved composing poetry. He would ask me what I thought of his poetry. And, honestly, it was quite good. We became close over time. When he left the job, he told me I was his brother and he would never forget me. I know I haven’t forgot him and I consider him my brother.
But one thing he said, one night, three years ago, has remained with me. He said the only problem in the world is the Jews and if were rid of them, the U.S. and the Muslim world would no longer have problems. I wanted to argue, but I didn’t. He was a friend.
I had another friend — a young Jewish woman from a family that had been in the United States for as long as mine. We were working together on Sept. 11. While we watched the events of the day, she asked me why anyone would do such a thing. Later, she asked me why such people hated Jews so much. I didn’t answer then. I told her to talk to her family. But, I did have an idea several years later after talking with Mizo.
I love them both to this day, but I can’t bridge that gap. I don’t know how to heal those wounds or counter that hate. But I do know this: A nation has a right to defend itself against aggression.
You may take the side of the Palestinians and say that the rocket attacks are justified because of Israeli aggression, or you may take the side of Israel and say that they have the right to retaliate against rocket and suicide attacks.
But my questions, ones that I had wished I asked Mizo when I had not wanted to offend a friend: What will happen when Israel is wiped off the map? I mean that sincerely. That is the stated goal of Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and Hamas.
What happens when Iran launches its nuclear missiles? Israel will retaliate, then they’ll all be gone. Will everyone be happy? Will you, parsnip? And what do I tell my Jewish friends? How do I justify it?
No one will have a homeland. It will be nothing but a wasteland. Do the Iranians think that their weapons won’t affect Gaza or the Left Bank? What matters when they’re all gone?
Comment by Ag80 on 12/31 @ 9:28 pm #
And, of course, I meant the West Bank.
Comment by McGehee on 12/31 @ 10:19 pm #
The Iranians don’t care. It’s the Palestinians who should be asking themselves that question.
Comment by Carin on 1/1 @ 6:53 am #
Of course they won’t be happy. They’ve focused so much blame on the Jews for any and every failure … if the Jews disappeared tomorrow they’d simply have to find a new excuse for their shortcomings.
Comment by B Moe on 1/1 @ 7:32 am #
Jeez, Carin, I wonder who that would be?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/1 @ 7:37 am #
“Do the Iranians think that their weapons won’t affect Gaza or the [West] Bank?”
All those irradiated Arabs would be “martyrs”, Ag80.
Comment by Darleen on 1/1 @ 10:17 am #
Ag80
It’s an asymetrical war, in the sense that the opposing sides have different objectives … Islamists want Jews dead, Jews just want to live their own lives.
Islamism is a death cult. Death is the ultimate expression of Islamist piousness … in comparison to Judaism or Christianity where living a good and faithful life is the goal.
Comment by Carin on 1/1 @ 10:37 am #
Now, now Darleen. Let’s not overstate the issue. The Palestinians wouldl be perfectly happy if Israel simply absorbed them, and allowed them to vote! Hama could then sink or swim through the democratic process.
;)
Comment by Mikey NTH on 1/1 @ 1:30 pm #
Never forget Haman.
Comment by Sdferr on 1/1 @ 1:39 pm #
In a neat fit with Barry Rubin’s thesis of yesterday I note an event or two taking place in Teheran today. Iranian students protesting outside the Jordanian Embassy, threatening to storm the place are only calmed by an emissary from the Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Further, much the same sort of events are going on outside the Egyptian embassy in Teheran. I feel an urge for popcorn coming on.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 1/1 @ 1:54 pm #
Guys - you are arguing with a vegetable and another whose internet name is self-descriptive. Ignore the lamprous trolls.
Comment by Sdferr on 1/1 @ 9:25 pm #
In another example of Jews who fire back the IDF launches its own blog to get its story out. None too soon I think.
Comment by hoss on 1/2 @ 7:10 am #
“And when you do come back, tell us why you wished mass slaughter and oppression upon the millions of Muslims in Iraq. And then tell us again how it’s me that hates Muslims. ”
Because, for him, it’s better that millions die and be oppressed than have him admit that GWB did something good. BDS 101.
Comment by donald on 1/2 @ 7:41 am #
Well then Parsnip, how’s about the IDF, drive the sorry cocksuckers into the sea? Huh? How’s about that. I suppose they can go somewhere in the middle of lobbing rockets to my preferred solution (See above), and drive Hamas out, then Fatah, then the rest of the sorry lot to Jordan, or Egypt, or…, but those animals are smart. They want no part of the “Palestenians”. See, I’m right up front about my thoughts and convictions, you fling shit about, just trying to agitate. You know, what is right and what is wrong, but it doesn’t matter. You just have to oppose whomever is on the other side, right or wrong. What a maroon.
Comment by donald on 1/2 @ 7:47 am #
AG08, you owed it to your friend to engage him. You owed it to your friend to remind him that his beliefs were pre-medeivnal and that he needed to get educated. That’s what friends do.
Comment by Civilis on 1/2 @ 11:18 am #
I have to look at the situation from a distance. What does Israelis need to do to get the Palestinians to stop lobbing rockets at them, and what do the Palestinians need to do to get the Israelis to stop bombing them? Our trolls have been asked this question in many forms time after time, and won’t (or can’t) answer, because they know they lose the debate as soon as they do.
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