December 11, 2008
Putting On Ayers [Dan Collins]

In his Times column, Ayers’s chronology focuses on 1970, the year he co-founded the Weather Underground “after an accidental explosion that claimed the lives of three of our comrades in Greenwich Village.” But this wasn’t some especially radicalizing furnace mishap. On March 6, 1970, three members of a Weatherman cell died when a bomb they were making blew up in their faces. Packed with nails for maximum lethality, it had been intended for a noncommissioned officers’ dance at Fort Dix, N.J.

Only then did the Weatherman faction mutate into the Weather Underground — and begin issuing pre-detonation warnings. Even so, it was still a matter of luck that there were no casualties.

As Todd Gitlin, a former ’60s leftist and a historian of the period, put it: “They planned on being terrorists. Then their bomb blew up and killed several of them and they thought better of it. They were failed terrorists.”

Ayers told me this week that he did not know about the nail bomb in advance — and condemned it afterward. I take him at his word. So why obfuscate in the Times? Editors cut the article, he protested — before conceding that his original version left it out, too.

Sure he condemned it. It ’sploded his gf, lulz.

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  1. Comment by Sdferr on 12/11 @ 1:38 pm #

    Can haz pithed?

  2. Comment by Techie on 12/11 @ 1:44 pm #

    He did it for the lulz.

  3. Comment by Pablo on 12/11 @ 1:46 pm #

    Nailed his honey, it did.

  4. Comment by DarthRove on 12/11 @ 1:48 pm #

    Guess they got stuck at work.

  5. Comment by SarahW on 12/11 @ 1:49 pm #

    They identified Diana Oughton by a piece of her finger.

    Larry Grathwohl: “The instructions I received from Billy Ayers was that the bombs to be used in Detroit must have shrapnel (fence staples, specifically) and fire potential (propane bottles). The intention was to kill police officers.”

  6. Comment by Bob Reed on 12/11 @ 1:52 pm #

    So by Ayers logic, if O! undertakes any policy that I feel is morally repugnant, I would be completely justified in, you know, blowin’ stuff up…

    Or if I thought that his educational philosophy of emphasizing social justice over actual education was irreperably harming our nation’s youth, would it be OK for me to bomb his house-like he did to the judge in the Black Panther trial?

    As opposed to simply protesting or trying to vote him out of office…I guess that’s too pedestrian, man…

    Funny how guys ike Ayers are all about takin’ it to the man-until they become him…

  7. Comment by Barack Obama on 12/11 @ 1:53 pm #

    Their sacrifice was not in vain.

  8. Comment by Barack Obama on 12/11 @ 2:00 pm #

    They identified Diana Oughton by a piece of her finger.

    Did it have a nail?

  9. Comment by Semanticleo on 12/11 @ 2:00 pm #

    “Their sacrifice was not in vain.”(Bush on ‘How I stopped my fear of battle by sending others to Iraq’.)

    “So by Ayers logic, if O!(BOOOOSH) undertakes any policy that I feel is morally repugnant, I would be completely justified in, you know, blowin’ stuff up…”

    I’ll repeat the question I put to Howie yestiddy.

    Are there mirrors in that cave y’all hang in?

  10. Comment by Techie on 12/11 @ 2:03 pm #

    Too bad Ayers didn’t have the chance to nail her one more time…….

  11. Comment by DarthRove on 12/11 @ 2:07 pm #

    So we should disband the armed forces and “study war no more” because ‘cleo’s a pussy?

    All rightee then.

  12. Comment by Roland THTG on 12/11 @ 2:07 pm #

    “So by Ayers logic, if _________ undertakes any policy that I feel is morally repugnant, I would be completely justified in, you know, blowin’ stuff up…”

    FTFY.
    Basically, yes. Just fill in the blank.

    Dumbass

  13. Comment by Salt Lick on 12/11 @ 2:10 pm #

    They identified Diana Oughton by a piece of her finger.

    Boonies?

  14. Comment by Salt Lick on 12/11 @ 2:12 pm #

    Bush on ‘How I stopped my fear of battle by sending others to Iraq’.

    It’ll all be yours in a month, honey.

    Any idea how many troops Obama will have to send to Afghanistan?

  15. Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 12/11 @ 2:13 pm #

    Sometimes, cleo is stuck on stupid. This is one of those times. That was a fairly non-partisan statement made by Bob.

  16. Comment by Dread Cthulhu on 12/11 @ 2:13 pm #

    DarthRove: “So we should disband the armed forces and “study war no more” because ‘cleo’s a pussy?”

    Bugs, Mr. Rove, Zillions of ‘em!!!

  17. Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 12/11 @ 2:14 pm #

    “Any idea how many troops Obama will have to send to Afghanistan?”

    Small potatoes for the O!. He’s going to bomb nuclear armed Pakistan.

  18. Comment by Sdferr on 12/11 @ 2:17 pm #

    Bomb Pakistan? Good, at least let’s hope he’ll do so anyway, OI. I’d be more trouble if he chooses not to.

  19. Comment by Salt Lick on 12/11 @ 2:28 pm #

    Small potatoes for the O!. He’s going to bomb nuclear armed Pakistan.

    I’m thinking he’ll offer them a bailout, OI.
    Because of the whirled peas.

  20. Comment by Sdferr on 12/11 @ 2:36 pm #

    Yoiks! Troubled was intended, my bad.
    But bomb more, faster, please!

  21. Comment by Huey on 12/11 @ 2:46 pm #

    I wonder how Ayers feels about Timothy McVeigh.

  22. Comment by kelly on 12/11 @ 2:54 pm #

    Wistful?

  23. Comment by Squid on 12/11 @ 2:54 pm #

    I’m guessing admiration, tinged with envy.

  24. Comment by kelly on 12/11 @ 2:54 pm #

    Jealousy?

  25. Comment by B Moe on 12/11 @ 3:02 pm #

    “I did not target them for who they were – but for what they did. What they did was participate in the murder of innocent Vietnamese.”

    “My actions that day were motivated by my recognition that war is murder. Because it is murder, I believe that deadly force is indeed justified in an attempt to stop it. I do not claim this as a right but rather consider it the moral duty to come to the defense of my fellow man when he is under attack. This is an essential concept embedded in Western Civilization – that we are our brother’s keeper.”
    -William Ayers

    How do you feel about that statement, ‘cleo?

  26. Comment by Bob Reed on 12/11 @ 3:05 pm #

    I wonder how Ayers feels about all of the folks murdered in Vietnam and Cambodia after we left..?

    One the, you know, Revolution of the prople had finally succeeded..?

  27. Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/11 @ 3:08 pm #

    “I did not target them for who they were – but for what they did. What they did was participate in the murder of innocent Vietnamese.”

    What he killed Viet Cong and NVA, too?

    Who knew?

  28. Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/11 @ 3:09 pm #

    “Laura Bush killed more people than Bill Ayers.”

    So did Ted “The Swimmer” Kennedy.

  29. Comment by B Moe on 12/11 @ 3:10 pm #

    So how do you feel about the quote @ 25, mari? And do you worry at all about karma when you say shit like that about Laura Bush?

  30. Comment by Bob Reed on 12/11 @ 3:16 pm #

    This is an essential concept embedded in Western Civilization – that we are our brother’s keeper.”
    -William Ayers

    Oh no he di’int…

    I can’t believe he said this. How could he have done anything that might have harmed another if he believed this..?

  31. Comment by kelly on 12/11 @ 3:17 pm #

    Cunning stunt, Mari.

  32. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 3:43 pm #

    Karma? That sounds exotic and vaguely anti-American.

    well, it sounds like it’s right up your alley then!

  33. Comment by B Moe on 12/11 @ 3:44 pm #

    Oh no he di’int…

    I can’t believe he said this.

    He didn’t. That is from Eric Rudolph’s Birmingham allocution with some words changed, unborn babies to Vietnamese, abortion to war mostly.

    So you can go ahead and denounce it now, mari. It’s cool.

  34. Comment by Slartibartfast on 12/11 @ 3:48 pm #

    Laura Bush: history’s greatest monster.

    You are dismissed, Mari.

  35. Comment by JohnAnnArbor on 12/11 @ 3:48 pm #

    Funny how the Vietnam War is always portrayed by the left as USA vs. Vietnam. It was USA and South Vietnam (with assists from Thailand, Australia, and South Korea) vs. North Vietnam (with help from USSR, China, and elsewhere). To the left, of course, South Vietnam wasn’t “authentic” since they didn’t hate America and accept Communism, so those folks deserved to die.

  36. Comment by Bob Reed on 12/11 @ 3:51 pm #

    You’re right JAA,
    It was indeed a tag-team match. And the left always thought that the South Vietnamese were perpatratin’

  37. Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 12/11 @ 3:51 pm #

    Ok, who did Laura Bush kill? And only an idiot would think “karma” is un-American. Un-Christian? Yes. Un-American? No. Does mari think that Christianity is the same as American?

  38. Comment by B Moe on 12/11 @ 3:55 pm #

    Ok, who did Laura Bush kill?

    When she was a teenager she was found at fault in an auto accident in which a fellow student was killed. It is a vile charge the most rabid moonbats have been kicking around much to the embarassment of anyone with the least bit of decency. Mari just showed her true colors.

  39. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 3:59 pm #

    She swerved into a tree to avoid hitting a porcupine.

    wow. I’ve heard that’s the best way to kill somebody. she’s hardcore.

  40. Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 12/11 @ 4:04 pm #

    Thanks, B. Moe. I honestly didn’t know about that. So this idiot is equating a traffic accident to pre-meditated murder? Pretty fucking stupid. Mental note: Don’t even read what mari types. He/she is in the alphie bin, now.

  41. Comment by parsnip on 12/11 @ 4:08 pm #

    The results are the same OI.

    Just the excuse is different.

  42. Comment by B Moe on 12/11 @ 4:09 pm #

    She swerved into a tree to avoid hitting a porcupine.

    No.
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp

    You are really quite ignorant, aren’t you dear? Maliciously so, it would seem.

  43. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 4:12 pm #

    let me know when you get my reference…

  44. Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 12/11 @ 4:14 pm #

    And alphie cements his status as a grade A fucking dumbshit with #44. Oy. That, people, is why you don’t engage it.

  45. Comment by B Moe on 12/11 @ 4:15 pm #

    If this were a theatrical forum, perhaps. But how have I been deceived politically?

  46. Comment by Techie on 12/11 @ 4:15 pm #

    Sorry, mari, that’s Ace’s site.

  47. Comment by Bob Reed on 12/11 @ 4:16 pm #

    Comment by parsnip on 12/11 @ 4:08 pm #

    The results are the same OI.

    Just the excuse is different.”

    So Mari,
    Is Teddy “Lion of the Senate” Kennedy guilty of murder also..?

    Seems so by your logic…

  48. Comment by JohnAnnArbor on 12/11 @ 4:18 pm #

    It’s kind of the same as lefty attitudes towards Israel:

    –Israeli bombs kill nearby Palestinian civilians while killing several guys shooting at Jews? Intentional murder. No amount of evidence showing Israeli attempts at avoiding this will be accepted.

    –Palestinians carefully plotting and hitting a soft target like a school full of Jews? Justifiable “resistance.” Those kids were future soldiers, right? They asked for it.

    –Palestinians who shoot at Israelis, then go hide with their extended families, knowing that Israel won’t strike back? Heroes.

  49. Comment by B Moe on 12/11 @ 4:19 pm #

    B Moe: you take things literally.

    This is why you are so easily deceived.

    You think there is any chance Mari will ever get the irony of that statement in the context of the original topic?

  50. Comment by Mossberg500 on 12/11 @ 4:23 pm #

    Mari’s wearing her “Meat is Murder” t-shirt, which trumps all reason!

  51. Comment by kelly on 12/11 @ 4:25 pm #

    Let me know when you get my reference as well Mari. Cretin.

  52. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 4:27 pm #

    You think there is any chance Mari will ever get the irony of that statement in the context of the original topic?

    well no, B Moe, because you are ignoring the “Most Recent Statement Supremacy” rule. Remember? It’s how Obama can be taken seriously when he talks about “diplomacy with preparations”

  53. Comment by kelly on 12/11 @ 4:28 pm #

    It’s #32, Mari. C’mon, you’re a bright girl, go for it.

  54. Comment by kelly on 12/11 @ 4:31 pm #

    So that’s your point, huh? Why don’t you enlighten us as to why we “should just STFU for a while.”

  55. Comment by Mossberg500 on 12/11 @ 4:32 pm #

    My point, “Bob”, is that Republicans–for reasons that are not mysterious–should just STFU for a while.

    Wow, what happened to dissent is the highest form of patriotism? Sounds kinda un-Americany of you, sweetie(I mean that in an O! respectful way)!

  56. Comment by Techie on 12/11 @ 4:34 pm #

    I laugh at your superior intellect, Khan……er….Mari.

  57. Comment by Techie on 12/11 @ 4:34 pm #

    I’m just trying to afflict the comfortable.

  58. Comment by kelly on 12/11 @ 4:35 pm #

    Careful, she could be toying with us. Oops, I might have said too much….

  59. Comment by Mossberg500 on 12/11 @ 4:35 pm #

    I blame George Bush and PMS!

  60. Comment by B Moe on 12/11 @ 4:37 pm #

    So that’s your point, huh? Why don’t you enlighten us as to why we “should just STFU for a while.”

    Because she has no rebuttal for our points, d’uh! Don’t be a moron, kelly!

  61. Comment by kelly on 12/11 @ 4:39 pm #

    But moronicity comes so naturally to me, B Moe. Is it because I didn’t vote for The One?

  62. Comment by Mikey NTH on 12/11 @ 4:41 pm #

    After many years everyone is looking at mr. Ayers again and evaluating his legacy. He isn’t liking that one bit.

  63. Comment by Techie on 12/11 @ 4:45 pm #

    Yes, mari, I too recall the halcyon days of 2000, 2002, and 2004. Why, it was a deafening silence on the Left.

  64. Comment by B Moe on 12/11 @ 4:45 pm #

    Nope, irony is completely lost on this one.

  65. Comment by kelly on 12/11 @ 4:46 pm #

    Zounds! We did?? Why didn’t someone inform me of this?

  66. Comment by Mossberg500 on 12/11 @ 4:48 pm #

    Mari, maybe you should write Jeff and tell him to shut down this blog because he didn’t support Hussein!

  67. Comment by parsnip on 12/11 @ 4:48 pm #

    Mari,

    The Senate Republicans are proving they’d rather lose elections than admit they’re wrong.

    We should encourage behavior like this, not silence it.

  68. Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/11 @ 4:48 pm #

    “My point, “Bob”, is that Republicans–for reasons that are not mysterious–should just STFU for a while.”

    Ah, so you support that whole First Amendment thingy, then.

  69. Comment by kelly on 12/11 @ 4:50 pm #

    Inciteful, root veggie. Inciteful.

  70. Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/11 @ 4:50 pm #

    Um, nenver mind.

  71. Comment by kelly on 12/11 @ 4:52 pm #

    Yes, I made that word up, sue me.

  72. Comment by thorichka on 12/11 @ 4:52 pm #


    Comment by Mari on 12/11 @ 4:42 pm #

    So that’s your point, huh? Why don’t you enlighten us as to why we “should just STFU for a while.”

    Because you got your asses kicked in two successive national elections.

    But it’s the media’s fault!!!elevanty!!11!!!

    Look, it’s snow bunnies!!!11!!!

  73. Comment by Mossberg500 on 12/11 @ 4:53 pm #

    Help! Help! I’m being repressed!

  74. Comment by Mossberg500 on 12/11 @ 4:54 pm #

    There’s some lovely filth down here!

  75. Comment by kelly on 12/11 @ 4:54 pm #

    Come to think of it, does anyone remember all those Senate Democrats admitting they were wrong in 2000 or 2004? Me neither.

  76. Comment by kelly on 12/11 @ 4:59 pm #

    What she lacks in irony, she makes up for with obtuseness. Bravo.

  77. Comment by Bob Reed on 12/11 @ 4:59 pm #

    Mari,
    I’m only applying your train of reasoning…

    But I can see that the only stop on that line is at BDS central station on the Bush Hatred Express…

    That kind of behavior doesn’t encourage a bi-partisan bonhomie between O! supporters and their vanquished political opposition….

    I’m just sayin’

  78. Comment by thorichka on 12/11 @ 5:02 pm #


    Comment by Mari on 12/11 @ 4:56 pm #

    Republicans are going shrink government. They really mean it this time.

    They seem to enjoy shrinking the economy so much that I wouldn’t put any sort of shrinkage past ‘em.

  79. Comment by Mossberg500 on 12/11 @ 5:02 pm #

    O!pinion – there can only be O!ne! Racists!!!

  80. Comment by JohnAnnArbor on 12/11 @ 5:05 pm #

    The idea that losing political parties should disappear is SO Venezuela. Or 1933 Germany.

  81. Comment by kelly on 12/11 @ 5:08 pm #

    I mean, really, WTF (if you’ll permit me) does this statement…

    Republicans are going shrink government. They really mean it this time.

    …have anything to do with this one:

    Yes, mari, I too recall the halcyon days of 2000, 2002, and 2004. Why, it was a deafening silence on the Left.

    And you’re calling us morons?

    Don’t you have some Albee to deconstruct or something? Y’know, hegemonic white male and all.

  82. Comment by kelly on 12/11 @ 5:13 pm #

    “They seem to enjoy shrinking the economy so much that I wouldn’t put any sort of shrinkage past ‘em.”

    I’ll defer to your expertise in shrinkage, thor, but tell me, who has held majorities in Congress the last four months again? With your superior intellect and vast, varied life experience can’t you come up with any new material these days? Stale, man, stale.

  83. Comment by bill on 12/11 @ 5:17 pm #

    Actually, Ralph Nader killed the kid in Texas by running an ineffective anti-Corvair campaign. Mari, you spelled your name wrong. It is spelled M-a-r-y. Dumbass.

  84. Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/11 @ 5:22 pm #

    “#

    Comment by Mari on 12/11 @ 5:16 pm #

    Sure, BDS.

    Lowest.rated.president.ever.

    Stay the course.”

    Don’t know history, either.

    Oy fucking vey.

  85. Comment by Techie on 12/11 @ 5:23 pm #

    Holy crap, we broke the bots, they’re accessed the 2005 talking points file.

  86. Comment by Mari on 12/11 @ 5:27 pm #

    Ha, morons.

    STFU. You’re all stupid.

    Bush is an idiot.

    I am an original thinker.

  87. Comment by thorichka on 12/11 @ 5:33 pm #


    Comment by Mari on 12/11 @ 5:16 pm #

    Lowest.rated.president.ever.

    Stay the course.

    Bush’s ratings are dropping faster than the YTM on a three-month T-bill.

  88. Comment by B Moe on 12/11 @ 5:33 pm #

    Posting under other people’s names, troll or otherwise is not fucking cool. I wish you clowns would quit.

  89. Comment by Mossberg500 on 12/11 @ 5:36 pm #

    Bush is an idiot.

    I am an original thinker.

    Original thinker? Did you mean original blinker?

  90. Comment by Techie on 12/11 @ 5:36 pm #

    Sigh, why have we let the same three malcontents run every thread off track today?

  91. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/11 @ 5:45 pm #

    Republicans–for reasons that are not mysterious–should just STFU for a while.

    Trollhammered.

    Buh-bye.

    Guess it’s you who’s going to be S’ing TFU for a while. At least from my POV.

  92. Comment by parsnip on 12/11 @ 5:49 pm #

    SBP displaying his wonderful imagination.

    I suppose it must beat reality for the far right.

    Next trollhammer candidate?

    President Obama!

  93. Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/11 @ 6:20 pm #

    “#

    Comment by Mari on 12/11 @ 5:33 pm #

    Someone is pretending to be me.

    I’m flattered.”

    I wouldn’t be.

    That comment was stupid, too.

  94. Comment by Dan Collins on 12/11 @ 6:24 pm #

    Mari, Jeff asked me to, just this once, try to keep the comment numbers up.

  95. Comment by Mikey NTH on 12/11 @ 6:30 pm #

    #103 is correct – if you wingnuts would just shut up and go away, the trolls would not be forced to come here.

    Nice little fascists that they are.

  96. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/11 @ 6:34 pm #

    Poor lefties. It’s starting to sink in that Teh Lightworker, Teh One who was Different from All the Rest, Teh One who promised that he wouldn’t cum in their mouths, has left them all with a big ol’ mouthful of spooge, and they’re shitting their collective pants.

    This is going to be a fun administration to watch.

  97. Comment by parsnip on 12/11 @ 6:42 pm #

    Obama just promised he’d crush McCain, which he did, SBP.

    Speaking of campaign promises, Bristol and Levi?

    Tick Tock!

  98. Comment by Dan Collins on 12/11 @ 6:48 pm #

    Wow, that’s wicked, Parsnip. Why, it’s almost as stupid as John Edwards. Not.

  99. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 6:48 pm #

    Obama just promised he’d crush McCain,

    uh, and that he would meet with the leaders of Iran, Venezuela, North Korea and Cuba without preconditions. but he’s already taken that one back.

  100. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 6:49 pm #

    also, I was promised change. WTH is the deal with keeping Robert Gates?! huh!?

  101. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/11 @ 6:50 pm #

    Let me guess: snippy said something that was both brutally dishonest and terminally stupid.

    What a pity I won’t see it.

    What’s it going to take, snippy? An actual perp walk?

  102. Comment by parsnip on 12/11 @ 6:54 pm #

    It’s up to Hillary whom she meets with and under what conditions.

    I’m sure she’ll do whatever pisses off the wingnuts the most.

    I think most of you guys will end up voting for Obama in 2012, maggie.

    Could SBP get more infantile?

    Like a child who thinks covering his eyes with his hands makes him invisible.

    It is kinda cute.

  103. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 6:57 pm #

    I think

    BWAH HA HA HA HAaaaaaa

  104. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/11 @ 7:02 pm #

    also, I was promised change.

    Don’t forget the free gas.

    The price has come down, but it’s still a long way from free.

  105. Comment by B Moe on 12/11 @ 7:03 pm #

    It’s up to Hillary whom she meets with and under what conditions.

    Unilateral Secretary of State?

  106. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:05 pm #

    OBAMA SAID HE WOULD DO IT!!!! Then he said he wouldn’t even before Hillary came along. What gives?

  107. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/11 @ 7:07 pm #

    “This is the operative statement. The others are inoperative.”

  108. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:08 pm #

    so many broken promises….

  109. Comment by parsnip on 12/11 @ 7:13 pm #

    Obama has an 80% appoval rating, Maggie.

    Can we assume the 20% who don’t approve of him come from the far right like you?

    Peak-a-boo SBP!

    Got your nose!

  110. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:15 pm #

    so he’s popular!? That let’s him break his promises?

    HEY! We’re all jumping off this cliff! W007! W007!!!

    have fun with that.

  111. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:17 pm #

    they were POPULAR!
    please! it’s all about popular.
    it’s not about aptitude,
    it’s the way you’re viewed,
    so it’s very shrewd to be,
    very very popular like ME!

  112. Comment by parsnip on 12/11 @ 7:17 pm #

    Poor maggie.

    So bitter and sad.

    It’s not like he promised his pet war would pay for itself, you know.

    Maybe Sarah Palin can lend Hillary a few of her $500 scarves for when she calls on Iran?

  113. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:19 pm #

    bitter? sad? not so much. I’m laughin’ my ass off. You’re the sad one. Believing in O!

    oh, I know he lied that one time, but who doesn’t am I right? It’s not like it’s a chronic problem. He really loves you. I know he’ll stop beatin’ ya.

  114. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:20 pm #

    and the bunnies are nice.

  115. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:20 pm #

    Maybe Sarah Palin can lend Hillary a few of her $500 scarves for when she calls on Iran?

    but not Obama. so you’ve just given up on that little promise.

  116. Comment by SSG Ratso on 12/11 @ 7:21 pm #

    I think most of you guys will end up voting for Obama in 2012, maggie.

    ???

    Because the Republican’s will nominate who as a worse alternative? Pee Wee Herman?

    No. I’d vote for Pee Wee.

  117. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/11 @ 7:25 pm #

    I’d vote for Gilbert Gottfried first, or even Billy Mays.

  118. Comment by thorichka on 12/11 @ 7:25 pm #


    Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:20 pm #

    and the bunnies are nice.

    Oh look, Maggie, it’s a baby moose!

    Or a pony!

    Maybe a bunny!

    Nah, it’s George Bush’s hairy ass. Worst President in effen American history. Your hero.

  119. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:26 pm #

    oh, and that promise about public funding???

    BROKEN!

  120. Comment by SSG Ratso on 12/11 @ 7:26 pm #

    Vote for Billy mays and get a $5 off your next Mighty Putty purchase.

  121. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:26 pm #

    uh, how do you know it’s hairy? oh… right.. it’s thor.

  122. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/11 @ 7:27 pm #

    It’d be a trip to see him hawking Orange Glo on CSPAN, as well as being a more honest way of making the office pay off.

  123. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:27 pm #

    well, thor’s fantasy, anyway.

  124. Comment by SSG Ratso on 12/11 @ 7:28 pm #

    For the last 7 years I’ve been a part of a mission I absolutely, wholeheartedly agree with and have been proud to be a part of.

    What’s that chance that’ll happen under this next administration?

  125. Comment by thorichka on 12/11 @ 7:29 pm #

    Same reason I know your ass is hairy, and fat

  126. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/11 @ 7:29 pm #

    Think about Maj. (P) John, Ratso. There’s a post over on his blog about how Blago will soon be his commander in chief.

    Let’s hope not for long.

  127. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:29 pm #

    What’s that chance that’ll happen under this next administration?

    pretty good, ekshually.

    oh wait, you said be proud of.

    it’ll be like NO all over again, won’t it?

  128. Comment by Mikey NTH on 12/11 @ 7:30 pm #

    Alphie has found his true opponent, one that he can fight against and win. A teenage girl.

    So much for chivalry, so much for tolerance. The left is the land of the scarlet letters.

  129. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:30 pm #

    Same reason I know

    right, so this is in the land where 100 minus 52 equals 45.

  130. Comment by SSG Ratso on 12/11 @ 7:31 pm #

    When, oh, when will we get our troops out of Bosnia? (17 years on, that one)

  131. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/11 @ 7:32 pm #

    Also, Mays hawking Orange Glo would probably improve CSPAN’s ratings quite a bit.

  132. Comment by parsnip on 12/11 @ 7:32 pm #

    Ah, maggie so deluded.

    All Obama had to do to please us was crush McCain, which he did rather nicely.

    If the 20% of Americans who are the Bush deadenders want to spend the next 4 years begging Obama to implement a progressive agreenda, that would just be peachy, too.

    Those of us who voted for him are happy to just sit back and let him do his job as he sees fit.

  133. Comment by SSG Ratso on 12/11 @ 7:33 pm #

    Imagine: 18 month NOLA-type deployments.

  134. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:34 pm #

    AUGA! AUUUUUGA! AUUUUUUGA!

    ABANDON ARGUMENT!!!

  135. Comment by SSG Ratso on 12/11 @ 7:35 pm #

    All Obama had to do to please us was crush McCain…

    Ah. The soft idiocy of low expectations.

    I understand.

  136. Comment by thorichka on 12/11 @ 7:36 pm #


    Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:30 pm #

    right, so this is in the land where 100 minus 52 equals 45.

    Still trying to bend those spoons and numbers, eh.

  137. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:36 pm #

    Ah. The soft idiocy of low expectations.

    I understand.

    RACIST!

    he’s only half black.

  138. Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/11 @ 7:37 pm #

    “Comment by parsnip on 12/11 @ 6:54 pm #

    It’s up to Hillary whom she meets with and under what conditions.”

    Not only are you a loathsome toad, you’re a stupid loathsome toad.

  139. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:38 pm #

    I don’t seem to have a problem realizing that if someone gets 52.whatever percent of the vote that they didn’t get 48.whatever percent of the vote.

    MATHS!

  140. Comment by happyfeet on 12/11 @ 7:39 pm #

    I’m so tired of McCain and Baracky both. Farces both of them I think. Symptoms of disease is what they are really.

  141. Comment by SSG Ratso on 12/11 @ 7:39 pm #

    Thor the Mighty Finanshul Jeeneeus dunt ged it that if 52% DID vote for O!, then ALL the rest DID NOT.

    My dad use to work for the Treasury Department–maybe the IRS should be checking Thor’s math, back, say, the last 7 years (2003 in mathormatics).

  142. Comment by parsnip on 12/11 @ 7:40 pm #

    Ah. The soft idiocy of low expectations.

    I understand.

    You must be a Bush fan then, son.

  143. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:40 pm #

    ah, we’re back to home plate.

    sweet, sweet BDS.

  144. Comment by SSG Ratso on 12/11 @ 7:41 pm #

    But McCain is still in the Senate.

    Hey, I know a way for Hillary to pay off those campaign debts–she’s stil GOT a Senate seat….

  145. Comment by thorichka on 12/11 @ 7:42 pm #

    You sure are half-smart Maggie.

    Do you see the BUNNIES!!

  146. Comment by happyfeet on 12/11 @ 7:42 pm #

    Yup, maggie. Baracky sure didn’t win a landslide. He likes to hype things though. It’s like if a dirty socialist piece of Chicago street trash got NPR and MSNBC and Newsweek and other media people to pretend like he was for real presidential material. It’s a lot like that really now that I think on it.

  147. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:42 pm #

    yep, watch still has the right time.

  148. Comment by Mikey NTH on 12/11 @ 7:43 pm #

    Alphie has found a foe he can actually fight. A teenage girl.

    So much for chivalry.

  149. Comment by SSG Ratso on 12/11 @ 7:43 pm #

    You must be a Bush fan then, son.

    You make a lot of assumptions based on samples of evidence that are far too small,… mom.

  150. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:45 pm #

    It’s a lot like that really now that I think on it.

    Yeah, I was pondering today what Helen Thomas’ first question for the new administration will be.

  151. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:45 pm #

    I doubt it will be about why we’re doing Israel’s bidding.

  152. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:47 pm #

    probably, “why are you so dreamy? is it the communist father?”

  153. Comment by thorichka on 12/11 @ 7:47 pm #

    #

    Comment by SSG Ratso on 12/11 @ 7:39 pm #

    Thor the Mighty Finanshul Jeeneeus dunt ged it that if 52% DID vote for O!, then ALL the rest DID NOT.

    My dad use to work for the Treasury Department–maybe the IRS should be checking Thor’s math, back, say, the last 7 years (2003 in mathormatics).

    Actually I just posted a link with the exact figures and Maggie went off her rails and into solo sock puppet land.

    Them real numbers spooked Maggie into ODS stress headaches, or maybe it’s Obama bowel inflammation, who knows.

  154. Comment by happyfeet on 12/11 @ 7:48 pm #

    I haven’t heard whats happened to Helen since she got that nasty colon infection.

  155. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:48 pm #

    Actually I just posted a link with the exact figures and Maggie went off her rails and into solo sock puppet land.

    you were disputing whether or not 48% did not vote for Obama. and FAILED! massively.

  156. Comment by N. O'Brain on 12/11 @ 7:49 pm #

    “sweet, sweet BDS.”

    It’s like brain damage among the reactionary left.

  157. Comment by thorichka on 12/11 @ 7:49 pm #

    OK, Maggie, just slowly put the sock down.

  158. Comment by Mikey NTH on 12/11 @ 7:51 pm #

    Brave Sir Alphie found his foe
    A young girl he could call a ‘ho’
    A girl who was heavy with child
    Upon her he could go wild
    He could cry hypocrisy
    That none would abandon she
    So Brave Sir Alphie gave her his sword
    and went to gather Herod’s reward.
    Rejoicing, Alphie went down his road
    revealed to all as a pathetic toad.

  159. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:51 pm #

    ??? why? cause you can’t do math?

  160. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:52 pm #

    please, thor! show me again how only 52% of Americans voted for Obama!

  161. Comment by SSG Ratso on 12/11 @ 7:53 pm #

    It’s not ODS. It’s ODD.

    A syndrome is a collection of symptoms that occur togetehr without a discernable underlying disease state to cause them.

    Derrangement is an irrational state.

    We know exactly what the underlying cause of our symptoms are and there’s nothing irrational about it.

    The correct term, therefore is Obama Disappointment Disorder.

  162. Comment by thorichka on 12/11 @ 7:54 pm #

    Sock it!

  163. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:54 pm #

    so again, thor… 100… minus…. 52…. equals…. ???

  164. Comment by Mikey NTH on 12/11 @ 7:55 pm #

    And the moral of our tale?
    Child, let your parents Democrats be
    Or you shall face calumny
    From the Brave Sir Alphie.

  165. Comment by thorichka on 12/11 @ 7:56 pm #

    =

  166. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:57 pm #

    that’s not an answer. dumbass.

  167. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:57 pm #

    but you knowz all bouts the conomy.

  168. Comment by happyfeet on 12/11 @ 7:58 pm #

    I sure am disappointed, SSG. It’s like that dream where you’re sleeping and you open your eyes and there’s someone right in your face and it’s who is it oh shit someone’s in my face it’s Hugo Chavez oh god oh wait no it’s Nancy Pelosi oh crap oh crap wait no it’s it’s just that Baracky dirty socialist street trash damn go away I got to get up early can’t you leave me alone ever jeez.

  169. Comment by SSG Ratso on 12/11 @ 7:58 pm #

    It’s mathormaticaly improbable!

  170. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 7:59 pm #

    It’s mathormaticaly improbable!

    like my fat hairy ass!

  171. Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 12/11 @ 8:00 pm #

    Did you see that the dirty socialists at NPR had to lay off 7% of their staff, happyfeet?

    I thought that would cheer you up.

  172. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 8:02 pm #

    so, but they’re keeping 93%?

  173. Comment by SSG Ratso -- Proud to be ODD! on 12/11 @ 8:02 pm #

    Gotta go gets Peppermint Chocolate Chip Milkshakes. Sees ya after a bit.

  174. Comment by parsnip on 12/11 @ 8:03 pm #

    maggie calling someone a dumbass.

    Now that’s comedy gold!

  175. Comment by SSG Ratso -- Proud to be ODD! on 12/11 @ 8:03 pm #

    No no, Maggie, you still can’t subtract good.

    That’s 87%. Mathormatically speaking.

  176. Comment by happyfeet on 12/11 @ 8:04 pm #

    That was almost snoopydance but I wonder for real if they’re looking at Arbitron data or contributions or both. My guess it’s mostly contributions and it’s corporate that’s pulling back but that individuals … it’s like this… what’s the difference anymore between giving to NPR and writing a check to Baracky? And people are Barackyed out giving wise I think.

  177. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 8:06 pm #

    so parsnip failed math as well. okay.

  178. Comment by Slartibartfast on 12/11 @ 8:06 pm #

    If the 20% of Americans who are the Bush deadenders

    Someone needs to point out to Root-Vegetable Boy that Congress has extraordinarily low approval rating, too. It can’t be just the Republicans, can it? The math just can’t work out if it’s just the Republicans.

    Oh. Data. Dang, I hate it when there’s data for this kind of thing.

  179. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 8:07 pm #

    public school, am I right?

    Thankfully, Obama won’t be taking that chance with his offspring.

  180. Comment by happyfeet on 12/11 @ 8:08 pm #

    oh. The other thing I noticed was they let the crone Linda and codger Dan keep their jobs while axing their youth-oriented shows (what were failing anyway) … no snoopydance cause I think they want to do a bit of public suffering before hitting up our dirty socialist congress for some serious payback for all their hard propaganda work what they did for Baracky and Mr. Soros.

  181. Comment by parsnip on 12/11 @ 8:22 pm #

    Maggie,

    We know karl Rove has ordered the dimmest of Republicans to mistate the election results every chance they get.

    That you are proud to be one of Rove’s Rubes is…to be expected.

  182. Comment by Slartibartfast on 12/11 @ 8:54 pm #

    Rove has also instructed the very dimmest of the dim to make egregious spelling errors when attempting to insult the intelligence of his betters.

    Embarrassing, isn’t it? It’s like mistake and misstate all rolled up into one nonsensical package.

  183. Comment by SSG Ratso -- Proud to be ODD! on 12/11 @ 9:13 pm #

    We know karl Rove has ordered…[unsupported blather snipped]

    You know what?

  184. Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 12/11 @ 9:18 pm #

    “so parsnip failed math as well. okay.”

    maggie, alphie has failed life. And thor, worst president ever? Come on, you’re a dick head but you ain’t stupid. I’m not a fan, but I know of at least 1 president in my lifetime who was worse. Bush had a unique, extremely unique, start to his presidency. Carter had a unique ending.

  185. Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 12/11 @ 9:21 pm #

    BTW, my apologies to any Canadians out there, but damn, Labatts is truly shitty beer. I know. I know. Taste is subjective and there is no right or wrong answer, but this stuff is insufferable. It’ll teach me to try and go cheap. Time for the Captain and Coke.

  186. Comment by SSG Ratso -- Proud to be ODD! on 12/11 @ 9:49 pm #

    Yeah, this is late, but is Mari really indicating that Laura Bush has killed at least 6 people?

  187. Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 12/11 @ 10:03 pm #

    Mari is dumb as shit, SSG Ratso. That is moral equivalency beyond reckoning. And remember, there is a HUGE difference between murdering and killing. The fact that he/she and the dumbass can’t see that is amazing to me. Regardless of political/philosophical ideology.

  188. Comment by Sdferr on 12/11 @ 10:12 pm #

    William C Ayers
    hadn’t half of a care
    For the innocent victim
    Of his “hurray for Che” dictum

  189. Comment by Pablo on 12/11 @ 10:36 pm #

    All Obama had to do to please us was crush McCain,

    That’s because you’re a simp, alphie.

  190. Comment by Dread Cthulhu on 12/11 @ 10:41 pm #

    Parsnip: “If the 20% of Americans who are the Bush deadenders want to spend the next 4 years begging Obama to implement a progressive agreenda, that would just be peachy, too.

    Those of us who voted for him are happy to just sit back and let him do his job as he sees fit.”

    Uh-huh… you don’t get out that much, do you?

  191. Comment by maggie katzen on 12/11 @ 11:23 pm #

    We know karl Rove has ordered the dimmest of Republicans to mistate the election results every chance they get.

    That you are proud to be one of Rove’s Rubes is…to be expected.

    link?

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