Some in the press are moving toward “leadership,” having found out that Senator McCain was summoned by Paulson through Lindsay Graham. At any rate, CBS reports, you decide.
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September 25, 2008
Leadership or stunt?
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Comment by Patrick on 9/25 @ 1:21 pm #
See, Paulson is a racist. He called Grahamnesty to get McCain, but didn’t call Reid to get O!(tm).
Comment by cranky-d on 9/25 @ 1:24 pm #
It’s only leadership when a Democrat does it.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 9/25 @ 1:25 pm #
Interesting.
When CNN’s Christiane Amanpour asked Palin for an interview, she declined-but suggested that the vice-presidential candidates should step in for Friday’s scheduled presidential debate.
http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/tamcam/archive/2008/09/25/a-palin-surprise.aspx
Comment by Bob Reed on 9/25 @ 1:30 pm #
But wait…O! provides leadership too!!
It inspires people to great acts, like the on on this film…
Didn’t CBS get their talking points today?
Comment by RR Ryan on 9/25 @ 1:52 pm #
I wouldn’t talk to Amanpour, either.
Comment by BJTexs on 9/25 @ 2:03 pm #
But, but, but, but … John Dickerson at Slate wrote that, “It’s not clear what, exactly, McCain is going to do in Washington.” Kate told me this! Where is my narrative?
I’M SO CONFUZZLED!
Comment by Clint on 9/25 @ 2:10 pm #
Baracky gets to look at statesman-like by staying ABOVE the fray and taking the appeals directly to the voters.
McCain? He just dives in there RECKLESSLY, getting people riled up and upsetting the delicate balance the other, more experienced politicians have crafted.
Look for it coming to your local newspaper.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 9/25 @ 2:10 pm #
Hahahahahahahahahahah!!!
Beautiful. Of course, it leaves the question open — isn’t Biden a Senator as well? Shouldn’t he be attending to business?
Comment by Clint on 9/25 @ 2:11 pm #
at = all
Preview? Nope.
Comment by BJTexs on 9/25 @ 2:21 pm #
After all, it would be the patriotic thing to do.
Wouldn’t it?
Comment by JD on 9/25 @ 2:26 pm #
It is only patriotic to raise taxes, racist.
Comment by BJTexs on 9/25 @ 2:32 pm #
My bad. Denounced, condemned, blah blah…
Comment by cranky-d on 9/25 @ 2:37 pm #
@12
You don’t sound very sincere.
Comment by dre on 9/25 @ 3:17 pm #
really low there questioning a dems patriotism
Comment by happyfeet on 9/25 @ 3:28 pm #
Pretty sure I have to go with leadership on this one. I’ll be in my office if you have any questions.
Comment by B Moe on 9/25 @ 3:31 pm #
What is interesting is that no one in the press has pointed out that during this time of “crisis” McCain and Obama have both focused on their respective strengths. McCain returned to the Senate, to try to make deals, call in favors, work some political leadership like he has done all his political career. Barry returned to the campaign trail, running for office and talking about himself like he has done all his political career.
Seems like the media would notice this, if we still had a media.
Comment by sashal on 9/25 @ 3:53 pm #
definitely a stunt
Comment by Mikey NTH on 9/25 @ 3:54 pm #
#16 BNoe:
It may very well be that we have a media like we had fifty years ago, it is just that the limitations of monopoly have been broken with different outlets on both cable and the web. What was hidden is now pretty much visible, so it appears there has been a shift when actually nothing has shifted. Pinch Sulzberger is noted today, but way back when Col. McCormick was in the same mold.
The big three networks gave the appearance of objective balance when there was only the three, but I doubt it was really all that balanced. Newspapers were never objective until the big consolidations post WWII, and they only went through the motions.
There may be a difference in the extent or weighting one way, but it seems to me that it has been that way for a long time.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 9/25 @ 3:54 pm #
I mean B Moe.
Comment by urthshu on 9/25 @ 4:02 pm #
@ 7
Well, McCain was a fighter pilot. Staying above the fray means you’re a wuss in that world.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 9/25 @ 4:31 pm #
The big three networks gave the appearance of objective balance when there was only the three, but I doubt it was really all that balanced.
You’re one hundred percent correct.
By any objective measure, the Vietnam War was won by the United States. The NVA and Viet Cong were crushed.
Nonetheless, the media of the day managed to convince the United States to abandon its victory and go home.
Note that our current media hasn’t (yet) been able to do that with Iraq. Quite.
This, I think, is a very positive sign. I think this is the very last Presidential election cycle where the leftoid media matters.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 9/25 @ 4:32 pm #
#20 urthshu:
Actually, he flew attack aircraft, which meant he really went down into the fray. But you are right about the ’staying above the fray’ and the wuss factor.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 9/25 @ 4:39 pm #
I should have added this: attack aircraft have to run into the heaviest concentrations of flak and fighters or they are useless. That is the deliberate selection of the hard road.
Example: Torpedo 8 at Midway. Only one man came back, and he was rescued by a PBY after 30 hours in the water and a ringside seat for the rest of the battle.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/25 @ 4:41 pm #
definitely a stunt
no. That makes no sense. Sometimes things are what they are I think. Not just cause McCain, behaving as a future president, needs to be deeply involved in the politics of this deal, but cause it would be irresponsible to give a demagogue and his compliant media an opportunity to inflame this crisis or derail a solution while negotiations are ongoing. Until a bill is signed, really. The risk associated with a debate dwarfs any conceivable approximation of the value that kind of debate could have. A debate to which these two, neither of them are really entitled. It’s a crisis, and Baracky needs to wake the fuck up and act like it. And David Letterman needs to clutch his heart and maybe gasp sort of plaintively and then maybe if we really feel we have to we can see his dumbfuck narcissistic ass for a couple seconds next year at that Emmy obituary slideshow thinger they do, right before cutting to a commercial for a new domestic or imported model in the burgeoning lineup of luxury-class hybrid-electric vehicles.
Comment by dre on 9/25 @ 4:50 pm #
Die, die, die:
http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/09/deal_gone_south.html
Comment by B Moe on 9/25 @ 4:59 pm #
It’s a crisis, and Baracky needs to wake the fuck up and act like it.
But that is just it, what is he going to do in the Senate, ‘feets? Run and get coffee and sodas for the grown-ups? He is a rookie Senator who hasn’t spent any time there. If he tries to get involved it will just accentuate everything that he isn’t. His only option is to keep campaigning and trust no one will ask any hard questions.
Comment by guinsPen on 9/25 @ 5:08 pm #
I’d just like to use “it behooves Baracky” in a sentence.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/25 @ 5:20 pm #
Yes. BMoe is right. Baracky needs to show leadership and defer to McCain’s judgment. That would be a lot reality-based I think.
Comment by Sdferr on 9/25 @ 5:21 pm #
Pretending. It’s what’s for supper.
Comment by B Moe on 9/25 @ 5:22 pm #
Baracky needs to show leadership and defer to McCain’s judgment.
And then thor can explain to everybody what a class act O! is.
Comment by Sdferr on 9/25 @ 5:33 pm #
Goddamnit. I just saw a headline at insty that read “Countrywide made home loans to Gorelick, Mudd: Leading Democrat, Ousted Fannie Chief Deny Any Favoritism” and of course it leads to an article that says they got the same Friends of Angelo deals as Dodd, Johnson, and the rest of the ratfucks.
Comment by Darleen on 9/25 @ 5:46 pm #
Sdferr
BWHAHAHAH!
Comment by Pablo on 9/25 @ 5:46 pm #
That’s exacty what Baracky is doing, but of course he can’t acknowledge that so he has to spin it as McCain can’t multitask and/or he’s ascared of debating me!
Ignoring all the while that this the global affairs debate and that’s when Maverick gets to flense him over Iraq.
Comment by dre on 9/25 @ 5:50 pm #
Hey Spike is doing his part:
Comment by Darleen on 9/25 @ 5:51 pm #
Pablo
Note that the debate on International matters is on Friday night
Like, who is really going to be watching among the voters who didn’t watch 19 months of campaigning? This is high school football season and new season premieres of tv shows.
Barry and ilk know the MSM is in the tank for him… he can ramble, they’ll clean up his prose, and the people who figured just to read it the next day will see Barry proclaimed Prince again.
Comment by Sdferr on 9/25 @ 5:55 pm #
Heheheh. You know, that guy Ramirez is every bit as good as Herblock was in his day and maybe even Maldin in his. W. Kelly still stands atop the pile for me though.
Comment by Sdferr on 9/25 @ 6:11 pm #
The problem with these gratuitous swings at McCain (besides doing nothing in themselves to advance the deal one little step) seems to me to be the fact of the distinct absence of cameras. Nothing about these negotiations seemed to be photo-opish. Far from it, everything about it is being done behind closed doors with nothing but verbal reports from participants. And damned few of those, really.
Except that these attacks are part of the “piss off McCain” strategy I wrote about last week. Part and parcel it looks like to me. Impugn his “honor” and get him to fly off the handle.
It will not work. It does begin to look very juvenile however.
Comment by B Moe on 9/25 @ 6:29 pm #
Chris Dodd, D-Conn., said, “It was a photo op for John McCain. … It was a rescue plan for John McCain.â€Â
That is why McCain slipped quietly out the back while Obama held a press conference afterwards, huh? Chris Dodd is one of those pols whose utter lack of shame seems almost supernatural to me.
Comment by dre on 9/25 @ 6:31 pm #
Chris Dodd should be frog marching right now.
Comment by Sdferr on 9/25 @ 6:33 pm #
I see co-ordination in those choices (the cameras, photo-op) B Moe. Do you too or do you think I am overdetermining the appearances?
Comment by B Moe on 9/25 @ 6:38 pm #
I don’t believe anything related to the Obama campaign happens by chance.
Except Joe Biden.
Comment by dre on 9/25 @ 6:44 pm #
Save Our Biden!
Comment by dre on 9/25 @ 6:45 pm #
Will Baracky’s piano recital be delayed. People want to know.
Comment by alppuccino on 9/25 @ 7:07 pm #
happy,
I share your white hot hate for Letterman. I think it stems from the fact that I found him funny in bygone days and now he’s just a sore old dick.
Comment by thor on 9/25 @ 7:26 pm #
Maybe your love for Letterman is only suspended pending forthcoming legislation.
Comment by alppuccino on 9/25 @ 7:43 pm #
No, I’m pretty sure it’s his doucheeness.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/25 @ 7:50 pm #
Anything what co-brands with CBS isn’t something I’m gonna get on board with. Jericho was the last straw ever. Pitiful bitches. They like to think they can hang in Hollywood too. Two words. Ghost Whisperer. The whitest hottest hate is what CBS has for their audience I think.
Comment by geoffb (JARAIP) on 9/25 @ 10:48 pm #
If Chris Dodd or Barney Frank can manage to be so insulting to get John McCain to cold-cock them on camera it should be good for a 25% boost in the polls for McCain. Hell of a Youtube video there.
Feels like the 1850s again.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 9/26 @ 6:42 am #
He started going down hill when he lost Larry “Bud” Melman.
Comment by geoffb (JARAIP) on 9/26 @ 7:46 am #
OT:
happyfeet,
What does this mean,
“Two words. Ghost Whisperer. The whitest hottest hate is what CBS has for their audience I think.”
It’s my wife’s favorite show and I like seeing JLH in anything. Has something happened to it?
Comment by happyfeet on 9/26 @ 8:09 am #
I can but sigh. Someone, please, help me cross over.
Comment by geoffb (JARAIP) on 9/26 @ 8:25 am #
Elliptical, ok.
Comment by JD on 9/26 @ 8:30 am #
It is tough to argue against any show that showcases Jeniffer Love Hewitt and her twins …
happyfeet – Do not walk towards the light …
Comment by happyfeet on 9/26 @ 8:32 am #
I just, I can’t explain how dopey it is. Brilliantly dopey in terms of appealing to W25-54, but still, appallingly dopey. And also yes Jennifer is nice, but she looked at her show and said oh, you know what this little show needs? I’m thinking a little dash of Cameron Manheim.
This is not the way normal people think.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 9/26 @ 8:43 am #
Feels like the 1850s again.
Yes, some of the excitement went out of politics when Congresscritters stopped calling each other out for duels or thrashing each other with their canes.
Nowadays you have to go to Taiwan or India to get that kind of action.
I’ll bet C-SPAN’s ratings would go way, way up. ARE YOU READY TO RRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUMBBBBBBBBBBBBBLLLLLLLLE?
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 9/26 @ 8:43 am #
Close tag.
Comment by Sdferr on 9/26 @ 8:45 am #
Wasn’t there a guy who had a show a few years ago in which he pretended to communicate with the dead loved ones of members of his audience? I never watched the thing but was vaguely aware that it was out there, sort of the way that I was aware that Jerry Springer was on the air (is he still?). What ever happened to that guy?
Comment by Pablo on 9/26 @ 8:50 am #
Dude, how could you forget John Edward?
Comment by Sdferr on 9/26 @ 8:55 am #
That’s the guy, thanks for the reminder, Pabs. Now, should I hint your hot link or not?
Comment by geoffb (JARAIP) on 9/26 @ 9:27 am #
What I like about Ghost Whisperer (besides JLH being lovely to watch)and Medium is for once there are husbands who are good men, love their wives and are not wimps, oblivious nothings, stupid or brutal abusive bastards. Normal men in other words, at least normal in my “flyover country” world.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/26 @ 9:31 am #
But just cause it panders to you doesn’t mean it’s not dopey I don’t think. I tried to rewrite that to where it sounds nicer but I couldn’t figure out how.
Comment by happyfeet on 9/26 @ 9:33 am #
And yes she is lovely and also she is a pop star in Japan. But who isn’t?
Comment by geoffb (JARAIP) on 9/26 @ 9:43 am #
Well dopey is better than the openly PC political crap writing that goes on on many shows, hello Law & Order, Cold Case etc. I guess both of us like some dopey. Suspension of disbelief works better for me if leftist politics stays out of the show.
Comment by McGehee on 9/26 @ 10:19 am #
Dopey = normal TV – PC
Comment by happyfeet on 9/26 @ 11:21 am #
I have to know the tv shows but I try not to get attached unless I’m really really in some kind of funk and rationalize it. It’s all just programming I think.
Comment by Andrew the Noisy on 9/26 @ 12:23 pm #
Yes, some of the excitement went out of politics when Congresscritters stopped calling each other out for duels or thrashing each other with their canes.
Yeah, it’s all fun and games until someone loses a son. 600,000 someones, that is.