Speaking to ABC News on Monday night, the Democratic presidential candidate said that he believes it is possible to crack down on terrorists and threats against the U.S. “within the constraints of the Constitution.â€Â
“Let’s take the example of Guantanamo. What we know is that in previous terrorist attacks, for example, the first attack against the World Trade Center, we were able to arrest those responsible, put them on trial. They are currently in U.S. prisons, incapacitated,†Obama said.
“And the fact that the administration has not tried to do that has created a situation where not only have we never actually put many of these folks on trial, but we have destroyed our credibility when it comes to rule of law all around the world, and given a huge boost to terrorist recruitment in countries that say, ‘Look, this is how the United States treats Muslims.’ So that, I think, is an example of something that was unnecessary. We could have done the exact same thing, but done it in a way that was consistent with our laws,†he added. *
Special!
Comment by alppuccino on 6/17 @ 7:27 pm #
Why wouldn’t the death penalty be a good deterrent for suicide bombers? No really, I’m asking.
Comment by Lisa on 6/17 @ 7:28 pm #
Tries to look stern and admonishing at Darleen for that picture. But can’t stop snickering.
It is really cute. You wench.
Sigh. He probably should shut up and meditate on things for a while. I really like the guy and it is sounding like he is just talking out of his ass.
Comment by Lisa on 6/17 @ 7:29 pm #
#1: They get the virgins either way. Perhaps the death penalty might give them pause if they know they are going to be locked up for a while with some cellmate who is going to treat them like his personal 72nd Virgin.
Comment by Christopher Taylor on 6/17 @ 7:32 pm #
the first attack against the World Trade Center, we were able to arrest those responsible, put them on trial. They are currently in U.S. prisons, incapacitated,†Obama said.
I think the word he’s after is “incarcerated” but who am I to say, he’s so clean and bright and articulate. In any case, they sort of missed Osama Bin Laden in their legal sweep of the terrorists. Seems like that led to something further a few years later, but I haven’t seen any mention of it for a long time in the press so maybe it never happened.
Comment by alppuccino on 6/17 @ 7:32 pm #
“Ahmed, take the vest off. IT’S OVER MAN!! TAKE THE VEST OFF!! IT’S ILLEGAL NOW!”
Comment by Darleen on 6/17 @ 7:37 pm #
I’ve done several p-shops of Barry, Lisa.
you missed this one and this one.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates - UMBA on 6/17 @ 7:38 pm #
I really like the guy and it is sounding like he is just talking out of his ass.
You know, Lisa, I liked the guy at first, too.
Then I realized that he wasn’t really saying shit most of the time (i.e., when he had a teleprompter), and when he WAS actually saying something unscripted, it was usually kinda stupid.
He’s smooth, though, I’ll admit that.
Comment by Sdferr on 6/17 @ 7:44 pm #
“…incapacitated…”
Andrew McCarthy claims the blind Sheik was continuing to run his organization from prison. I think they’ve got him stopped by now though. Better ol’ Abdel-Rahman was dead than serving a life sentence.
Comment by Lisa on 6/17 @ 7:50 pm #
Oh I love those Darleen. Do you mind if I save them and email them to a couple of relatives?
Comment by lee on 6/17 @ 7:52 pm #
Obamas policies are sooo stuck in the past.
3. Richard Clarke is adamant that, if we only were able to find out about the 9/11 plot and arrest everyone involved, we might have been able to prevent it.
Comment by CArin -BONC on 6/17 @ 7:53 pm #
You wrote “special” Darleen, but I think you meant “Fucking stupid.”
Comment by Lisa on 6/17 @ 7:58 pm #
#11: Now that is what I am talking about. Someone got in my ass for calling Bush an idiot. Now I am against calling people Nazis or baby murderers or some really off the wall shit. But calling our politicans idiots or dumbasses? That is our patriotic duty. Especially when they are saying or doing stupid assed shit.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 6/17 @ 8:01 pm #
Do most of the nations know what the ‘rule of law’ would be if you served it up to them on a plate with a garnish of watercress?*
*h/t PG Wodehouse.
The idea now is not to incarcerate after, it is to immolate before. Much better for Americans, children, and other inoffensive living things.
Comment by B Moe on 6/17 @ 8:02 pm #
But calling our politicans idiots or dumbasses? That is our patriotic duty. Especially when they are saying or doing stupid assed shit.
I think the distinction is calling them stupid as opposed to their policies. I think Obama has said and done some pretty stupid shit, and I don’t think he is any kind of genius, but they don’t give Harvard Law Degrees, or Yale MBAs, to fucking morons.
Comment by Darleen on 6/17 @ 8:10 pm #
#9 Lisa
Go right ahead. :-)
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates - UMBA on 6/17 @ 8:11 pm #
they don’t give Harvard Law Degrees, or Yale MBAs, to fucking morons.
Ralph Nader?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 6/17 @ 8:12 pm #
I like the way Ace puts it in his headings,
“Terrorists die of sickle cell anemia and Hellfire missles, but mostly of Hellfire missles”
Comment by N. O'Brain on 6/17 @ 8:13 pm #
“I don’t think he is any kind of genius, but they don’t give Harvard Law Degrees, or Yale MBAs, to fucking morons.”
According to the reactionary left, President Bush’s was bought.
Comment by Darleen on 6/17 @ 8:14 pm #
Carin
I don’t think Barry is “stupid” per se. He really is just way way out of his league. He cannot think on his feet
For all the people who figured because GW has a hard time talking in public (but no one who has dealt with him one on one says he is “dumb”), Barry’s performance everytime he goes off script would have bounced him from the primaries if the letter after his name was “R”. The press would have eaten him alive.
The eating of Barry they do right now involves Monica kneepads.
Comment by B Moe on 6/17 @ 8:20 pm #
I think Nader is an evil sonofabitch, but if you try to look into his organization or his finances or holdings, you will realize he is also a very shrewd sonofabitch.
Comment by lee on 6/17 @ 8:28 pm #
Maybe Obama and Nader are idiot-savants.
Comment by JimK on 6/17 @ 8:29 pm #
Barry is so 9/10. Which after 6 1/2 years is pretty effing stupid.
Comment by cynn on 6/17 @ 8:40 pm #
In prognostication, what is so wrong with having a cracker jacks president? We have suffered enough of the current known entity and his endless indigestible bran.
Comment by Dewclaw on 6/17 @ 8:52 pm #
I’m sure your “suffering” is legend, Cynn…
But put the “we” back in your pocket.
You don’t speak for me.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/17 @ 8:52 pm #
- I gotta say that I hardly think Obama is an idiot. I think he is a young, old time politician who choose a path he saw to success without realizing how really bad some of the crap that passes for intelligence under the big tent really sounds when you have to stand on a stage and actually try to sell it.
- I’ll bet that with some of the talking points that are basically forced on him, he actually cringes inside sometimes, even as he says them.
- I notice lately hes taken to looking down ar his shoes as he says things, like he did today when trying to explain that Bin Laden should really be treated like a normal felon, under suspicion but legally not yet convicted or tried.
- Small wonder. Today one of the former heads of the CIA said that this idea that foriegn terrorists can be treated like common criminals and tried under American law is the single most dangerous idea that hes ever seen foisted off on the American public.
- That can’t be giving him warm fuzzies when he has to parrot this hard Left crap day after day. That much slack i’m willing to give him, because I don’t really think hes anymore stupid than Bush, just badly misguided, and poorly managed.
- The hard Left nutbags are so steeped in their anti-American fairy tales they can’t even hold their ammunition and lie their way into office. BDS and all the ugly Bush/War demonization that flows from the Left is that deep.
- Now THAT is some kind of stupid.
Comment by B Moe on 6/17 @ 8:57 pm #
I think it is going to be rather entertaining when Nader finally checks out and the value of his estate becomes known.
Comment by Roboc on 6/17 @ 8:57 pm #
In prognostication, what is so wrong with having a Cracker Jacks™ President?
Mort Sahl, right?
Comment by cynn on 6/17 @ 9:00 pm #
I didn’t get to finish! …Because there’s a surprise in every box!!
Comment by cynn on 6/17 @ 9:14 pm #
Abortion legislation, anyone? That’s what I’d do if I were a righty.
Comment by Roboc on 6/17 @ 9:15 pm #
SHORT BUS
Comment by RTO Trainer on 6/17 @ 9:18 pm #
You’d think someone wiht a law degree might have some conception of, you know, what our laws are.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/17 @ 9:18 pm #
SHORT SPECHUL MagicBusâ„¢
Comment by so not Mona on 6/17 @ 9:21 pm #
Has anyone called Lynn Stewart about this?
Comment by maggie katzen on 6/17 @ 9:21 pm #
oops, I even told myself I wouldn’t do that.
Comment by Roboc on 6/17 @ 9:21 pm #
RTO, most lawyers think “separation of church and state” is a phrase in the constitution!
Comment by thor on 6/17 @ 9:23 pm #
cynn don’t “we” in her pants over nobody. The woman packs heat.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/17 @ 9:23 pm #
- You’d think anyone raised in the US would have the ability to spot a Marxist cult movement when they saw it too, but apparently thats just too much critical thinking and common sense for a small gaggle of our citizens.
Comment by cynn on 6/17 @ 9:25 pm #
What is your point?
Comment by ThomasD on 6/17 @ 9:27 pm #
Someone got in my ass for calling Bush an idiot.
That was me. Well, not really. I got in your ass for your throwing out of the yeah, but Bush is an idiot meme as a response to a thread about the incredible lightness of being Obama.
I’m not sure if you are avoiding the obvious or if you truly just don’t get the point, so I’ll spell it out. You got hammered, not for tossing an insult, but for trying to troll the thread off topic, deal with it.
In this case Carin was entirely on topic and, given the evidence at hand, Obama is fucking stupid.
Comment by cynn on 6/17 @ 9:27 pm #
I was speaking to RoboC.
Comment by thor on 6/17 @ 9:27 pm #
Those are good, D. Now if you only put your talent to a worthy cause, arf!
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/17 @ 9:27 pm #
- Ummm….that the rest of us should outright denounce ourselves for being on the same continent with them?
Comment by Roboc on 6/17 @ 9:29 pm #
- You’d think anyone raised in the US would have the ability to spot a Marxist cult movement when they saw it too, but apparently thats just too much critical thinking and common sense for a small gaggle of our citizens.
They don’t teach that in Commune 101! But I’m sure arugala crop production is!
Comment by thor on 6/17 @ 9:31 pm #
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Comment by ThomasD on 6/17 @ 9:27 pm #
In this case Carin was entirely on topic and, given the evidence at hand, Obama is fucking stupid.
Comment by cynn on 6/17 @ 9:32 pm #
I don’t think Obama’s all that, as I’ve said before. But I’m no prepared to kick him over the railing. We’ll see what happens.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/17 @ 9:33 pm #
“Now if you only put your talent to a worthy cause, arf!”
- We already know you’re a dog thor, but if you pee on the new furniture or carpeting in the LightRider lounge your ass is going back to the barn where you came from.
Comment by ThomasD on 6/17 @ 9:34 pm #
Gee thor, I didn’t know you cared. Kisses, sweetcheeks.
Comment by B Moe on 6/17 @ 9:36 pm #
Obama isn’t really that stupid, Thomas, he is just playing to his audience. They are the fucking stupid ones.
Comment by ThomasD on 6/17 @ 9:38 pm #
I’m still not convinced of that B Moe, but if so that would also make him a clown. For an audience of idiots, no less.
Comment by thor on 6/17 @ 9:39 pm #
I care enough to sometimes amplify the ridiculous.
Comment by ThomasD on 6/17 @ 9:45 pm #
You want ridiculous?
How about a politician who is so shameless and inept that willing to say things like ‘Look, this is how the United States treats Muslims.’ even though he knows damn well that this is not a struggle against Islam.
He’s willing to risk those words being repeated all over the globe merely because he thinks it will resonate with a certain class of voters, and that those words may help get him to the White House.
Never mind that he would bear the brunt of the consequences of those really poorly thought out words once he was in office.
Yeah, he’s that fucking stupid.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/17 @ 9:46 pm #
“I care enough to sometimes amplify the ridiculous.
- His feckessness needs no amplification from you thor. He’s doing a bang-up job, all on his own.
- And if he looks rediculous, then it would be pretty hard to do any picture of him based on his comments that would’nt just naturally come out that way.
- I posted earlier I don’t think hes anymore stupid than Bush, just stuck in the middle of something he needed to get where hes at, but now has no way to control.
Comment by cynn on 6/17 @ 9:48 pm #
No. Obama is not a clown. He is a mime, and we get to project whatever message we want through him. I have a problem with that, obviously. But truly, what harm is there in having a leader that is such a blank reflection of the people? Isn’t that the conduit president we have been maneuvering toward the past few administrations?
Comment by Darleen on 6/17 @ 9:53 pm #
cynn
but he’s not a blank reflection. Behind that reflection of happy changey free lunches, is a man dedicated to remaking this country into a Socialist utopia, no matter how many individuals he destroys in the process
did you SEE the shit he’s shoveling on Social Security? Don’t you find it CONVENIENT he wants to create a “donut” between 100 and 200 thousand dollars where the raise in the cap doesn’t take place … the gap that lines up nicely with what all those young, hip, whitecollar syphocants of his earn?
Comment by thor on 6/17 @ 9:55 pm #
Mime? You just harshed my hopey-changey dream state.
Comment by Roboc on 6/17 @ 9:55 pm #
AmericaWillPay.org
Comment by ThomasD on 6/17 @ 9:56 pm #
Cynn, does Obama do requests? How about STFU? does he know STFU? Cause I’d really like to see him do STFU, or maybe Michael Dukakis.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/17 @ 9:58 pm #
“But truly, what harm is there in having a leader that is such a blank reflection of the people?
- I don’t think you’d really want to live under the nexus of the true majority feelings cynn. But more than that, such a thing could only work if decisions at the highest level were actually done by N:ational concensus. They are not. If for any reason the codes needed to be sent for a nuclear launch in retaliation to being attacked on that level, we would not be consulyed. And a thousand other decisions that we do not have a direct voice in. Representative government, not absolute votive government.
- So. Because its true that we only indirectly effect high level decision making, thats why it becomes critical that we don’t elect anyone that could go apeshit on us, or even has a off the wall naive mindset when it comes to dealing with the world.
- Even with people that seem to be stable, even they can go off track back making misjudgements, reger to the Kennedy bungle that almost touched offa nuclear war.
- No thanks. I’ve has one to many of those in my lifetime.
Comment by Really not Mona on 6/17 @ 10:00 pm #
All of the gleeeens told me you were being homophobic race-baiting fascists over here. As always he/they were right.
Comment by Roboc on 6/17 @ 10:04 pm #
All of the gleeeens told me you were being homophobic race-baiting fascists over here. As always he/they were right.
LYSOL DISINFECTANT™
Comment by cynn on 6/17 @ 10:05 pm #
ThomasD: He’s a mime, goof, plus a cracker jack candidate. He’s already STFU at a club near you.
Comment by B Moe on 6/17 @ 10:05 pm #
He is a mime, and we get to project whatever message we want through him.
Really? Well this is the message I want to project through him: I know you loyal followers of mine love to chant, well here is a new one for you. Altogether now, “Killing terrorists before they blow shit up is better than arresting them afterward”. Great, now say it again!
Comment by ThomasD on 6/17 @ 10:08 pm #
He’s a mime, goof, plus a cracker jack candidate.
Sad, but true. At least so far as the Democratic primary is concerned. We’ll know how he fares in a national election soon enough.
Comment by cynn on 6/17 @ 10:14 pm #
Big Bang Hunter: And hence we need a complete rule of law; funny how it all goes like a ferris wheel.
Comment by Roboc on 6/17 @ 10:15 pm #
“Killing terrorists before they blow shit up is better than arresting them afterwardâ€Â.
B Moe, that would be proactive not reactive. Dhimms are only proactive when it comes to Global Warming™!
Comment by cynn on 6/17 @ 10:20 pm #
BMoe, until you send an email with photos from baghbad, ukfay offay.
Comment by thor on 6/17 @ 10:26 pm #
Surely when Obama is President America will melt into a hell-hole of Socialist/Communist aggression and fragment into warring mini-states of fuedalism and tyranny, death ad nauseam!
McDonald’s Happy Meals will include shrunken heads of typical white people! Temples and shrines will be built to exalt secular Godlessness! Bestial temptations will lurk in the minds of our newborns! Useless French literature will be passed off as literary progress in our public schools! Impending doom is near.
Any sharp object will do if it stops Obama!
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/17 @ 10:31 pm #
- See cynn, what really bothers me more than anything is all this partisan bickering back and forth only serves to obfuscate and bury what is really going on. And I don’t care a damn whether its being done by a Republican or a Democrat administration, the result is exactly the same. We take our eyes off the real issues and get kicked in the ass. Kicked in the ass for real, because the world isn’t a poli-sci theories class, and if you turn your back and get caught playing mental masturbation once too often you may not have any country to worry about anymore.
- Kennedy – Basically a good man, generally with common sense, let his personal Feud and ego blur his judgment, and got into a “my missiles are bigger than your missiles” pissing contest with the Shoe pounding “We will bury you” nutcase Khruschev, and there we were a few days or hours away from nuclear annihilation. If you weren’t alive at that time, you just have no idea how close we came, and how bad things really were. People were actually making out their last will and testiments, and it really was no exageration. We really did not know as we sat next to our radios and TV’s for hours on end waiting for some sort of news, and news. I never want to go through that again, and I don’t want anyone else to have to either.
- Nixon with his idiotic “enemies list”, and his bullshit war with the hippie generation, while all along neither he, nor the majority of the country, Right or Left had a fucking clue as to what was actually going on behind the scenes.
- Carter [ His bullshit pacifism and mishandling of the ME is probably the one greatest element in this whole fucking WOT we have on our hands today. The Iranians looked at him and saw “dumb ass” and they were off to the races. And now you have him running around STILL trying to claim he was doing the right thing. It just boggles the mind.
- Clinton, in spite of his red faced blustering, knows he fucked up in going after Bin Laden, but you think hes ever going to admit that?
- Now you have Obama. He starts out every speech with tough looking assurance, like he really knows where hes going and how to deal with things, and then after listening to him for awhile you begin to wonder just what the fuck hes talking about and what he stands for. He really is a blank slate at this point, other than the far Left talking points he mimics on cue.
- In other words, just not somethone you know well enough you could afford to take a chance with, even if you could stomach his collectivist Utopian ideas.
- No thanks. Not on my watch if I can help it.
Comment by cynn on 6/17 @ 10:36 pm #
I know for a fact that thor works for John McCaanan.
Comment by B Moe on 6/17 @ 10:48 pm #
BMoe, until you send an email with photos from baghbad, ukfay offay.
Chicks dig me.
Comment by Jeff G. on 6/17 @ 10:50 pm #
On the plus side, maybe CBS will bring back “Carter Country.” “Handle it, Boy. Handle it, handle it!”
And I’ve got plenty of sweaters. Can I write those off on my taxes? You know, for the earth?
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/17 @ 10:52 pm #
- Ewww Jeff. that was mean.
Comment by cynn on 6/17 @ 10:53 pm #
Note that I said BaghBad, which is central to my point.
Comment by thor on 6/17 @ 11:05 pm #
Well, cynn, if you’re Abel you can join too.
Pun police! Run!
Comment by MayBee on 6/17 @ 11:14 pm #
oops, I even told myself I wouldn’t do that.
ha ha ha ha ha!
It’s Jeff’s fault. We need a ‘revert to self’ button or something.
Comment by maggie katzen on 6/17 @ 11:23 pm #
or “don’t remember this me” checkbox
Comment by Karl on 6/17 @ 11:30 pm #
Oh, someone will eventually do the “Run, Barry, Run!” video.
Comment by Christopher Taylor on 6/17 @ 11:36 pm #
Surely when Obama is President America will melt into a hell-hole of Socialist/Communist aggression and fragment into warring mini-states of fuedalism and tyranny, death ad nauseam!
This is a sad but common internet debating tactic: your point is twisted into an absurd caricature, then the caricature is attacked. Typically it is done by someone who thinks they are engaging in reductio ad absurdem, but all they are doing is creating a straw man and beating it to pieces. Frankly I’d be sick of the straw everywhere if I couldn’t feed it to my petroleum-excreting bacteria.
Comment by troy mcclure on 6/17 @ 11:37 pm #
Big Bnad, don’t you know those Missiles were part of pledge, Khruschev had made in the summer of 1960, and the men and material began arriving in the fall of 1961; after the disastrous Vienna summit, where Kruschev discovered Kennedy’s pull
out from his promise of support for Cuban exile liberations schemes were’foreplay’;
So would the Berlin wall prove the point.
As has been pointed out, Dean, wrote up
the enemies list, which formalized what had been informal practices in the 60s
under Kennedy and Johnson. Nixon was right
to see the idiocy of the student movement
ignorance; who were as clueless then as Moveon is now. Despite defeating them by rallying Middle America, he was ultimately
toppled by the left coalition, along with help from dissident rightists like Mark Felt, and the Navy spy ring surrounding Admiral Moorer; for his detente maneuvers Carter was the vessel, for the antiwar movement that saw every problem as Vietnam; hence the shunning of the Shah
and Somoza, not caring for theconsequences
of such a power vaccuum in their respective regions. The support for Pakistan’s hand picked Afghan rebels and the Iraq card; was the flipside of this action. Which we still live with the consequences today. Clinton was the ‘randier’ 2,0 version of Carter with
almost equally bad consequences. the rise
to power of Chavez, the Taliban, the useless courting of the Iranian mullacracy
and of of course, the hap hazard campaign against AQ; which eerily reflected the utopian vision of proportional responses
in Aaron Sorkin’s oevre. Danzig’s “Way of the Pooh” is just the logical extension of this process.
Comment by ironpacker on 6/18 @ 12:03 am #
Prosecuting and convicting the original WTC attackers didn’t stop the second attackers. Proactive is always better than reactive when dealing with terrorists.
Comment by Andrew on 6/18 @ 2:25 am #
Oh my God! Obama is actually going to respect the U.S. constitution? We are doomed.
Comment by Lisa on 6/18 @ 2:58 am #
#39: Yeah yeah. You are always blabbing about what is on topic or whether I am saying something you deem appropriate. I just thought your prissy ninny-nagging about calling Bush stupid was, well…stupid. You can continue to nag and tighten your sphincter about whether I say something you approve of or not…and I promise I will continue to give it the highest regard and consideration…heh
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/18 @ 4:56 am #
-”On the other hand angel….We’ll always have Paris….”
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/18 @ 5:06 am #
“Oh my God! Obama is actually going to respect the U.S. constitution? We are doomed.”
- Wow. You mean hes going to tell the Lefturds to STFU and stop pulling Constitutional rights out of his ass for Non-Americans that happen to be at war with us. I doubt it. You Marxiod Proggs just don’t believe we deserve sovereignty.
- What was your battle cry again. “Save a terrorist, kill your fetus”.
Comment by alppuccino on 6/18 @ 5:16 am #
“Save a terrorist, kill your fetusâ€Â
I think it’s always best to look to the truckers for the truly profound “couplet of wisdom”
The last one I saw:
“Save a horse, ride a cowboy”
Of course it doesn’t work without the “hot lady profile” mudflaps.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 6/18 @ 5:41 am #
I think all of this Obama-is-stupid talk is…well, stupid. Obama is clearly not stupid, and comments that espouse this POV don’t get to the core of the matter, which is he holds beliefs that you fundamentally disagree with. “Obama is stupid” is dimissive rather than disputative (if that’s even a word), and so a little subpar for PW comments.
Off meta, and of course YMMV.
Comment by jdm on 6/18 @ 5:53 am #
I don’t think Barry is “stupid†per se. He really is just way way out of his league. He cannot think on his feet
Glibness is neither an indication of smarts nor a valid rhetorical device.
I don’t care if Barry can’t think on his feet. And if he can’t, which seems true, I would prefer he think things through – which he doesn’t seem to do either.
I will note however, that often times I have an unspoken or foggy notion about something that requires someone who is better than I to formulate them for me. Jeff falls into this group.
Comment by B Moe on 6/18 @ 6:00 am #
Oh my God! Obama is actually going to respect the U.S. constitution? We are doomed.
Will you grant that Jefferson and Madison understood the Constitution reasonably well? Then spend some time studying how they dealt with Islamic terrorists.
And you undying love and respect for the Constitution would be a little more believable if you could be bothered to capitalize the word.
Comment by alppuccino on 6/18 @ 6:06 am #
Obama is clearly not stupid, and comments that espouse this POV don’t get to the core of the matter, which is he holds beliefs that you fundamentally disagree with.
Why is he “clearly not stupid”? Is Ted Turner “clearly not stupid”?
I understand your point that the “Obama is stupid” talk might distract from the issues, but shouldn’t there be some concrete evidence that Obama is not Sean Connery on SNL Jeopardy?
You’re levelheaded Slart, but I’ll bet if Obama actually would have had the chance, he would have set up a personal meeting with Ahmadinijad with all the fan fare and self-congratulatory pulpitry. (new word) But Joe Biden had to reign him in. Joe Biden Slart!
Comment by B Moe on 6/18 @ 6:12 am #
The point I am trying to make is that smart people can do stupid things and hold idiotic positions. I don’t want to be dismissed as suffering from Obama Derangement Syndrome, so I prefer to question the intelligence of his policies, not him.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/18 @ 6:14 am #
- Obama’s security chirf on FOX this morning was doing a pretty good job of doing the usual SecProgg two step, turning thr eholr terrorist, and hoe to treat them, on its head, responding to Rudi Guiliani’s earlier ripping Obama a new ass when his tongue must have slipped down in front of his eye tooth and he started talking out his ass with this “oops” gem of a statement:
- “[Obama] wants to strike the terrorists where ever they are in the world. Rudi should be after George Bush, not Obama, we should be in Afghanistan and Pakistan where the people that attacked us are at, not Iraq. “If” al Qaeda has been destroyed in Iraq like the Republicans say, then we should be using our troops in the places where the terrorists are. Thats the trouble with the actions taken pre-9/11….Not enough was done to take it to the terrorists on offense instead of defense.”.
- Oops.?. Huh?. Say what? Oh, I get it. Lets see.
- So now that the Narrativeâ„¢ has been officially changed, I guess this means that the Obama camp side of the Lefturd crap heads has officially thrown Hillery and Bill under the back of the bus.
- Can these assholes say the same thing two days in a row. I don’t think its possible.
- So this weeks talking poing is that Obama has suddenly decided to “get tough” on the terrorists.
- O1 bullshit.
Comment by alppuccino on 6/18 @ 6:19 am #
I just don’t suffer from Harvard Genius Validation Syndrome.
The left look at their standard bearers and say “brilliant”. That’s the mantra. But I look at them and think that if they were in a lifeboat, they’d be the first ones eaten because food would be about all they could contribute.
“Look guys, you need to row harder in that general direction. I can’t row, I’m a Harvard grad. I need to sleep and then I’ll come up with another idea here soon. Could you move that tarp so that I’m totally in the shade? I’ll need another Snickers bar for brain food.”
“I dibs his arms.”
Comment by CArin -BONC on 6/18 @ 6:24 am #
1: Now that is what I am talking about. Someone got in my ass for calling Bush an idiot. Now I am against calling people Nazis or baby murderers or some really off the wall shit. But calling our politicans idiots or dumbasses? That is our patriotic duty. Especially when they are saying or doing stupid assed shit.
Lisa, and Darleen further down-thread – I was specifically referring to those comments by him. It was a really (fucking) stupid thing to say.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/18 @ 6:30 am #
“But calling our politicans idiots or dumbasses? That is our patriotic duty. Especially when they are saying or doing stupid assed shit.
- I take it that that sort of response would include people like this Allen Smith guy on FOX this morning then, where he was doing a yeoman job of trying to dig the SecProggs out of the hopeless hole they’ve gotten themselves into on the WOT, until he fucked up at the end.
- Check.
Comment by Lisa on 6/18 @ 6:37 am #
#94: I avoid smoking crack and watching Fox News in the morning. Both are terrible lifestyle choices.
Comment by CArin -BONC on 6/18 @ 6:40 am #
I will further add, that I think few politicians are fucking stupid. Except Maxine Waters. Rocks in that head.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/18 @ 6:41 am #
- Never touched drugs in my life Lisa. Nada, The Left has always done things that way, because when your politics are totally fucked up, your head might as well be too. Makes sense.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/18 @ 6:54 am #
- And while we’re on the subject, now that the polls show that only 19% agree that we should not be accessing our own oil resources, I await with great anticipation, the sudden 180 coming out of the Obama camp in that area.
- Watching the polls driven knee-jerk reaction of the Left on a daily basis is like watching a clown car act at the circus, only with even more chaos added for our viewing enjoyment.
- Not to be outdone, McDinosaur did his flip-flop yesterday. so I guess that makes it unanimous. Our illustrious government and candidates finally get it. Isn’t that great?
Comment by Darleen on 6/18 @ 6:54 am #
Carin
Ah. Yes. People can say or do very stupid things without being congenitally stupid.
When Barry is off script, the Community Organizer(tm) talks stupid. And can usually be counted on to demonstrate his historical ignorance.
Comment by alppuccino on 6/18 @ 6:56 am #
I will further add, that I think few politicians are fucking stupid.
That is probably true, but then I will add that the capitol building does not hold our best and brightest.
Comment by Darleen on 6/18 @ 6:56 am #
Oh my God! Obama is actually going to respect the U.S. constitution? We are doomed.
Really? I just heard a shallow guy say he was going to follow a SCOTUS ruling he liked.
Comment by Lisa on 6/18 @ 7:01 am #
#96: Maxie is not completely stupid. I actually saw her speak at a townhall in LA and she was rather eloquent. She is crazier than a shithouse rat though.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 6/18 @ 7:06 am #
#102 – Ok Lisa, I now have a mess of a monitor to clean up. Since I read your posts on a regular basis, its probably just as well I never did drugs.
Comment by CArin -BONC on 6/18 @ 7:34 am #
No, sorry, she’s stupid. Anyone who admires Castro and Hugo … is stupid. Anyone who wants to
socializenationalize the oil industry is stupid.Comment by McGehee on 6/18 @ 7:54 am #
Um, how did this thread get all the way up to 104? Where am I? What are we talking about?
Comment by McGehee on 6/18 @ 7:55 am #
Then shouldn’t all of your comments be in 48-point boldface type?
Comment by ThomasD on 6/18 @ 7:57 am #
your prissy ninny-nagging
Oh my.
No, not really, but my irony meter just redlined. Sugartits.
Comment by not JD on 6/18 @ 7:59 am #
‘Look, this is how the United States treats Muslims.’
Did Baracky really say this?
Comment by Sdferr on 6/18 @ 8:04 am #
He said ‘they say’. Easy cop-out for that one. The real question is, do they actually say that? No, probably they are not that stupid.
Comment by Pablo on 6/18 @ 8:08 am #
Yes, but there’s a bit of context missing that softens the schtoooopoidity of the remark just a little bit. See here.
Comment by Lisa on 6/18 @ 8:41 am #
That is not your irony meter. You just forgot your anxiety pills again.
;-)
Comment by Lisa on 6/18 @ 8:42 am #
#106: LOL.
Comment by CArin -BONC on 6/18 @ 8:50 am #
Pablo – I missing your point. What part of that article put O!™’s comment into context that makes it a little less (fucking) stupid?
That we treated the first attack on the WTC like a criminal action was, at least in no small part, why we got Khobar, Cole, and WTC part II.
Comment by Sdferr on 6/18 @ 9:06 am #
I didn’t get ’softens’ either Carin. Seems more like a 10lb sledge on a 20d spike to me.
Comment by thor on 6/18 @ 9:16 am #
Oh alp, you’re saying you’d massage the Messiah in a pre-tenderizing ritual? He ain’t Kobe so no matter what you slather on him he’s going to taste like chicken. Put the meat mallet away my man.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 6/18 @ 9:44 am #
No, he definitely ain’t like Kobe. Kobe just got through getting his ass handed to him. Obama will fare much better.
Comment by Rusty on 6/18 @ 10:14 am #
#105
I dunno, but now I’m fixated on Lisa’s ass. Could be a good day after all.
Comment by McGehee on 6/18 @ 11:58 am #
Rusty, yeah. I probably should have gone to my bunk. I hope I didn’t frighten the horses.
Comment by alppuccino on 6/18 @ 6:28 pm #
Oh alp, you’re saying you’d massage the Messiah in a pre-tenderizing ritual?
Maybe with the proper Southwestern Mesquite Rub. C’mon thor. You can’t convince me that you think Barry would grab an oar and start pulling. He’s cuddly with Al Gore. You hate Al Gore. C’mon!!
Comment by thor on 6/18 @ 6:30 pm #
Yes I hate Al Gore, fully-completely. But this Barry fellow has ears you can make meal of. And he writes well.
Comment by alppuccino on 6/18 @ 6:32 pm #
You know what? Those ears would scoop up a shit load of queso and quac.
Comment by Lisa on 6/18 @ 6:44 pm #
#120: Yeah I enjoyed Dreams of My Father. He is a lovely writer. And he is cute.
Comment by Senator Oz (D-Emerald City) on 6/18 @ 6:59 pm #
If he’s like most politicians and celebrities… his ghost writer writes well.
Comment by B Moe on 6/18 @ 10:03 pm #
A lot of us could write well if we got a $40k advance on our first book.
Comment by Pablo on 6/18 @ 10:13 pm #
Carin,
Just the “Other people think this.” aspect that the quote is lifted out of. It’s still wicked stupid, don’t get me wrong. But it’s less stupid than if he expressed the sentiment personally.
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