… and Bill Maher would be spending his evenings saying “Would you like to supersize that?
If you have a few hundred followers, and you let some of them molest children, they call you a cult leader. If have a billion, they call you ‘Pope.’ It’s like, if you can’t pay your mortgage, you’re a deadbeat. But if you can’t pay a million mortgages, you’re BearStearns and we bail you out. And that is who the Catholic Church is: the BearStearns of organized pedophilia.
You can’t come away from watching Billy’s little bash fest without sensing just a hint or two of jealousy.
 Dating youngin’s getting a little thin for you, Billy?
Comment by Enoch_Root on 4/16 @ 7:38 am #
Bill Maher is a bigot.
Comment by BJTexs TW/BP on 4/16 @ 7:44 am #
I have to give Maher credit for one amazing achievement:
He makes Olberman sound almost reasonable. Keep an eye out for a significant flux in the space/time continuum.
Comment by Semanticleo on 4/16 @ 7:46 am #
“You can’t come away from watching Billy’s little bash fest without sensing just a hint or two of jealousy.”
Sorry, Darleen, but dating chicks younger than yourself doesn’t make it peophilia.
Is it bigoted to call the Pope a former Nazi?
Comment by JD on 4/16 @ 7:50 am #
Fuck off, Miss KKKLeo.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 4/16 @ 7:59 am #
Yes, but we expect no better from you.
Speaking of which — is it just me, or has the left been letting its bigotry run rampant lately?
Comment by BJTexs TW/BP on 4/16 @ 8:01 am #
Yep! And disingenuous.
You fail to mention that Ratzy was member of Hitler Youth because all young males were required to join. Of course, the former Nazi doesn’t get any credit for deserting from the German Army so that he could study in secret to be a priest.
Nope, just a former Nazi managing a worldwide society of pedophiles. No bigotry here, move along…
Coming soon from semiconscious: “Nuance is Dead and I’ll Beat the Horse to Prove It!”
Comment by Dan Collins on 4/16 @ 8:15 am #
So, I guess that makes Billy a cult leader, then?
Comment by Cave Bear on 4/16 @ 8:21 am #
I long ago came to the conclusion that Bill Maher was one of the leading assholes in this part of the Galaxy, and this latest blather from him only reinforces that view.
And you can now add Miss SemantiKKKleo to that list as well.
Comment by Semanticleo on 4/16 @ 8:26 am #
“You fail to mention that Ratzy was member of Hitler Youth because all young males were required to join. Of course, the former Nazi doesn’t get any credit for deserting from the German Army so that he could study in secret to be a priest.”
You mean to save his corporeal hide? Aren’t Christians supposed to die for their faith? I wonder how many heads he was ‘required’ to break before he deserted?
Comment by BJTexs TW/BP on 4/16 @ 8:33 am #
He was still in training when he deserted. Thanks for being an asshole of the highest magnitude.
Comment by narciso on 4/16 @ 8:33 am #
The fact that Gunther Grass, the esteemed German writer, was Waffen SS, clearly must factor into this discussion (crickets chirping)
Comment by Dan Collins on 4/16 @ 8:34 am #
You’re really idiotic, ‘cleo. He wasn’t in combat.
I’m sure, though, that YOU, with your moral superiority, would have Nazis where to stick it.
Comment by BJTexs TW/BP on 4/16 @ 8:36 am #
You’d like that, wouldn’t you?
Nope, no bigotry here, move along…
Comment by Semanticleo on 4/16 @ 8:38 am #
“Joseph Ratzinger’s claims about the Hitler Youth are not true. Compulsory membership was first defined in 1936 and reinforced in 1939, not in 1941 as he says. Ratzinger also says that he was “still too young†at the time, but he was 14 in 1941 and not too young at all: between the ages of 10 and 14, membership in the Deutsche Jungvolk (a group for younger children) was mandatory. Yet there is no mention of Raztinger belonging. If he had managed to avoid the required membership in the Deutsche Jungvolk, why did he suddenly join the Hitler Youth in 1941?
Resistance: Both Joseph Ratzinger and his brother, Georg, have said that “resistance was impossible†at the time and, therefore, it’s not surprising or morally culpable that they also “went along.†This is also not true. First, it’s insulting to the many who risked their lives to resist the Nazi regime, both in organized cells and on an individual basis. Second, there are many examples of those who refused service in the Hitler Youth for a variety of reasons. ”
I don’t think ‘asshole’ means what you think it means.
Comment by McGehee on 4/16 @ 8:40 am #
Define “lately.”
Comment by Dan Collins on 4/16 @ 8:41 am #
So, how many heads do you suppose he broke, ‘cleo?
Comment by Dan Collins on 4/16 @ 8:41 am #
And if he lied about his involvement, don’t you suppose that eye-witnesses (I’m pretty sure a few are surviving) would have contradicted him?
Comment by Slartibartfast on 4/16 @ 8:42 am #
Oh, hell yeah.
I wish he’d said it was one of the greatest strawman massacres of all time, though.
Comment by Education Guy on 4/16 @ 8:44 am #
He was 14 at the time. Attempts to smear him as a Nazi do indeed bring the word “asshole” to mind.
Comment by royf on 4/16 @ 8:45 am #
Ah semicleo just as bigoted and confused as ever I see, and now with a interest in former Nazi’s (national socialists). Ironic that when a young man was forced to become a Hitler Youth semi thinks that stains him for life.
Yet she freely associates with a political party whose leading benefactor George Soros born a Hungarian Jew not only helped the Nazi’s (he couldn’t join because he’s was Joooo) seize European Jews assets but round them up for shipment to camps for extermination.
Oh and he came away with a personal fortune after the fall of the National Socialists. Please tell me semi what does that say about your party?
Comment by Semanticleo on 4/16 @ 8:48 am #
“eye-witnesses”
My Medium is conjuring them as we speak.
Comment by BJTexs TW/BP on 4/16 @ 8:49 am #
A little info on the author of Semiconscious’ little pope screed.:
Way to find those unbiased sources, bigot.
Comment by irongrampa on 4/16 @ 8:51 am #
One of the truly great things about this country is that it allows people like Bill Maher (and resident trolls) the freedom to be as much of an asshole as nobody can stand.
Comment by Dan Collins on 4/16 @ 8:55 am #
Fuck you, Semanticleo. You think he rose to prominence yesterday? You don’t think there are people who were his age or younger who are still alive?
Comment by Dan Collins on 4/16 @ 8:55 am #
Get out of here, you liar.
Comment by apotheosis on 4/16 @ 8:58 am #
I don’t think ‘asshole’ means what you think it means.
Fortunately, we can rely on you to remove any confusion on that matter.
Comment by Semanticleo on 4/16 @ 9:00 am #
“Fuck you, Semanticleo.”
Is there a problem?
Comment by Another Bob on 4/16 @ 9:00 am #
And unfortunately Darleen, your post gave Maher exactly what he wanted.
And BTW, Semanticleo is not a troll. Like Nishi, it’s a griefer. If one simply refuses to engage it, it will eventually locate greener pastures.
Comment by Semanticleo on 4/16 @ 9:02 am #
“Way to find those unbiased sources, bigot.”
You’re debunking of his facts will follow?
Your tolerance for Papism ensures a place in Humanist Heaven.
Comment by Semanticleo on 4/16 @ 9:03 am #
“If one simply refuses to engage it, it will eventually locate greener pastures.”
You must be new here, Bob.
Comment by McGehee on 4/16 @ 9:04 am #
Actually, Miss Cleo is more like a fungus.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 4/16 @ 9:07 am #
So, semen, why didn’t you link to a source when you posted that quote? Is it because you don’t trust the source?
Or because you’re an asshat?
Comment by royf on 4/16 @ 9:08 am #
Your tolerance for Papism ensures a place in Humanist Heaven.
And you tolerance of a political party which is largely financed by a real Nazi enabler, war profiteer and general overall sleazeball will ensure you what semi?
Comment by Rob Crawford on 4/16 @ 9:08 am #
???
WTF? What does “tolerance for Papism” mean? What the hell are you trying to say?
Comment by Dan Collins on 4/16 @ 9:09 am #
Yeah, there’s a problem with people who wilfully seek to damage others’ reputations, logic and evidence be damned.
Comment by Dan Collins on 4/16 @ 9:11 am #
What do you think YOU stand for, filth?
Comment by Spiny Norman on 4/16 @ 9:13 am #
#36
The celebration of her own narcissism?
Comment by McGehee on 4/16 @ 9:13 am #
See, Miss Cleo is convinced that only she can bring opposing views to this site. The growing diversity of the regulars here — including those such as cynn and Lisa — matters not. They don’t count because, although they disagree and sometimes vehemently with prevailing opinion in these threads, they are not disagreeable about it.
Ultimately, the differing view Miss Cleo brings to this site is nothing more nor less than hatefulness. The day we fail to oppose that is the day she wins.
Comment by JD on 4/16 @ 9:16 am #
This is pre-traumatic stress disorder, run amok. Miss Kkkleo is lashing out in advance of the anticipated pain she will endure from simply having the Pope in the US.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 4/16 @ 9:16 am #
- ““Fuck you, Semanticleo.â€Â
Is there a problem?
- Not at all Seman-up-your-Cle-hole. You’re a faithless, amoral hater, and haters always come to a sorry end. You had better pray to yourself that there is no judgment day Sparky. Otherwise you’ve set yourself up for the mother of all torments for an eternity.
Comment by BJTexs TW/BP on 4/16 @ 9:17 am #
Last time I checked you hadn’t even sourced the information, no doubt desperately trying to hide the unbiased nature of the cite.
If your source is crap, bigot, then you have to do better before I google-fu your ass.
bigot
Comment by mgroves on 4/16 @ 9:22 am #
Bill Maher is about as funny as cancer. Why anyone watches him (other than to get themselves worked up) is beyond me.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 4/16 @ 9:23 am #
“#Comment by Rob Crawford on 4/16 @ 7:59 am #
Speaking of which  is it just me, or has the left been letting its bigotry run rampant lately?”
I think it’s the new media.
The bigotry has always been there, the reactionary left was just more successful in hiding it in the past.
Comment by BJTexs TW/BP on 4/16 @ 9:25 am #
Witches and Zeus and Da Vinci and The Holy Grail and The Last Supper and torturing clergy and religious terorism and Semantics-Clueless and Unbiased Sourses … Oh My!
A veritable mile long buffet for the bigot!
Comment by N. O'Brain on 4/16 @ 9:26 am #
“#Comment by Semanticleo on 4/16 @ 8:38 am #
I don’t think ‘asshole’ means what you think it means.”
Well, just to be sure, I double checked and, yep, your picture was still there.
Comment by SarahW on 4/16 @ 9:30 am #
I feel a chill wind, or something.
Comment by Lisa on 4/16 @ 9:38 am #
Funny how when it is someone who has views similar to our own saying somewhat over-the-line shit, we say “hey they are edgy, but just telling it like it is”….but when it is someone from the OTHER side of the aisle talking trash, they are hatefilled scum. My knee jerk reaction to Darleen’s post was “he’s a comedian, get over yourself”. But I thought about all of my fellow liberals who are devoted to hanging on Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, et al’s every word, waiting to be deeply outraged and scream “unfunny, mean-spirited hacks!!”
I think we are just a bunch of touchy freaks in this country. When I was in London, I was surprised at how they raked their politicians and religious leaders over the coals regularly. No one was “off-limits”(except for Muslims, who get a free pass due to their propensity for heading for the explosives cabinet rather than the fainting couch when they are offended).
I admit, I am really uncomfortable with Pope bashing. He definitely looks like Uncle Fester, but I just can’t get with the “He the arch-molester of the world” thing. He is the LEAST annoying religious leader in a world stuffed to the maximum with deeply annoying religious leaders.
Comment by Big Bang Hunter (pumping you up) on 4/16 @ 9:39 am #
Thats the unique, unmistakable aura of the Angel of Death Sarah, come to claim all the souls of the Theists that pretend to be human beings.
Comment by mojo on 4/16 @ 9:40 am #
I’m still trying to figure out how he got a TV show in the first place. My best guess is he sold his soul to Satan.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 4/16 @ 9:41 am #
Please DNFTFT. If cleo were only twice as smart as he’s shown himself to be in trolling you, he’d be only half as smart as he’d need to be to chew his own food. It’s trolling, folks.
Comment by Salt Lick on 4/16 @ 9:53 am #
Bill Maher? Isn’t he the guy that appeared in Playboy licking Hershey’s
chocolate off a nude Eve Ensler?
Comment by A fine scotch on 4/16 @ 9:53 am #
Lisa,
Compare the reaction of Catholic leaders to a comedian comparing the leader of one of the largest religious denominations in the world to a pedophile (a truly hateful comment) to the reaction of Muslim leaders around the world upon the publication of pictures of their prophet.
Maher is a piece of crap because he would never make that joke about Mohammed. He would never make a ’splodeydope joke. He knows Catholics will complain (but not physically harm him) so he’s comfortable insulting the leader of religion with more than 1 billion followers.
Comment by Matt, Esq. on 4/16 @ 10:01 am #
*Maher is a piece of crap because he would never make that joke about Mohammed*
Translation – he’s a coward.
Comment by Dave in SoCal on 4/16 @ 10:03 am #
#47
Lisa, Thank you for proving the point made in #38.
And I love this: “except for Muslims, who get a free pass due to their propensity for heading for the explosives cabinet rather than the fainting couch when they are offended”
My hat’s off to you.
Comment by Education Guy on 4/16 @ 10:11 am #
In the building I work in, we all just gathered around the windows to catch a glimpse of the Pope going by on the road below. People were very excited, it was a festive atmosphere for what turned out to be just a momentary glimpse of an old man in white waving to the crowds.
Bill Maher would get no such reception.
Comment by Dave in SoCal on 4/16 @ 10:22 am #
Miss Cleo, you do know they make and sell barb-less tampons, don’t you?
Comment by Smithers on 4/16 @ 10:24 am #
Actually, if you ever watched the show, rather than Darleen cribbing it from Newbusters or some MRC site, you would find Maher has contempt for all religions and makes fun of Muslims in the same way. If he did it more often, he could be a conservative blogger.
Certainly, Dan “I-wore-a-crucifix-and-was-hated-in-graduate-school-for-it” Collins has no problem making fun of Muslims. But, when his ox is gored? Well, you’re going to Hell, Ms. Cleo
Comment by Ric Locke on 4/16 @ 10:25 am #
Much as I would like to agree with the don’t-feed-the-troll argument, I must beg to respectfully dis–
Aw, effit. Bullshit, guys.
The outstanding feature here is that semanticleo is a member in good standing of the group that has established, as a firm principle, that any examination of Teh Candidate’s antecedents, including prior associations, previously-voiced opinions, etc., that arrives at any negative conclusions is and can only be a “smear” emanating from “the noise machine”. Having had that principle applied to them, they are horrified, and are trying hard to establish that that is true only for communicants of their own highly-restricted and vastly intolerant faith.
So, for instance, if I note that of the strictly limited number of people entitled to call themselves “Swift Boat vets”, eight out of ten are willing to go on record as saying that John Kerry is an asshole and one refuses to voice an opinion, that is a “smear”. Similarly, if I observe that Barack Obama is a known intimate of some people who are clearly sleazy if not out-and-out corrupt, it can only be “smearing”. However, bringing up a sixty year old incident in which the young Ratzinger was compelled to join an organization which he left as soon as possible and whose teachings he has clearly and repeatedly repudiated constitutes a “fair examination of the past”; and since one person who was not there, was not involved, has no personal knowledge of the situation, and has offered hostility before is willing to assert that the emanations of the penumbras of the circumstantial evidence available indicate that a fourteen-year-old did not sling armed adults’ assertion in their faces, His Holiness must of necessity be condemned as an unrepentant Nazi. This, we are assured, is “evenhanded” and “fair”, as contrasted to “smearing.”
Regards,
Ric
Comment by Jeffersonian on 4/16 @ 10:25 am #
‘Cleo’s gurglings don’t even begin to make sense. If Ratzi was so eager to be a Hitler Youth, why did he put it off for four years after he was required to join and why did he bolt for the door as soon as the opportunity present itself?
Here’s an alternate narrative, ‘cleo: Ratzinger managed to avoid membership from age 10 to 14, when the Nazi state got around to compelling him to join. Then, when an opening presented itself, he absented himself from the organization.
Doesn’t this fit the facts a trifle better than your blinkered interpretation?
Comment by Smirky McChimp on 4/16 @ 10:41 am #
Ric wins.
As to Maher, isn’t he the chap who (winkingly, natch) suggested that the safest way to end conflict with Islam was to make a mass, insincere conversion to it?
It’s nothing short of laughable to hear these supposed “equal-opportunity offenders” who claim to denounce bigotry while dismissing one of the great sources of human thought and culture with facile waves of the hand. It’s fully as stupid to say that religion is the enemy as it is to say that foreigners are the enemy. Both constitute reflexive, unthinking judgements about things with which we are unfamiliar – which I believe they call bigotry.
Comment by gamera on 4/16 @ 10:46 am #
just a turtle drive-by
I admit, I am really uncomfortable with Pope bashing. He definitely looks like Uncle Fester, but I just can’t get with the “He the arch-molester of the world†thing.
oh he is.
Benedict is a Bad Shepherd, just like John Paul.
He cares more about the shepherds than the flock.
my eurofriends call the pedophile priests “the american problem”.
they say that only happens here “because of american culture of litigation”.
in Italy the monseignor just moves the pedophile priest to another parish.
that is the pope only apologized for american pedophile priests.
america is where they get caught.
;)
Comment by Cowboy on 4/16 @ 10:47 am #
Maher is a douchebigot.
‘Cleo is an idiot; a lesser-read, but probably equally intelligent Nishi.
…and Smithers? You just don’t get to reduce a trial in a man’s life to a single snarky, and poorly written, sentence.
Pointy hat for you, little man.
Comment by Cowboy on 4/16 @ 10:58 am #
nishi:
I find it hard to believe that you know people who can bear to be around you for more than a few minutes, let alone friends–even if they’re European.
Comment by Cowboy on 4/16 @ 10:59 am #
…and when I say European, I mean largely soul-less, degenerate, dumbasses.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 4/16 @ 11:01 am #
So if “america is where they get caught”, how do you know that “in Italy the monseignor just moves the pedophile priest to another parish”
Just an FYI, it’d be a Bishop doing the moving.
Bigoted and ignorant is no way to go through life.
Comment by McGehee on 4/16 @ 11:02 am #
Ah, but which came first — the soul-lessness, degeneracy and dumb-assedness, or the hanging-around-with-nishi-ness?
The world may never know.
Comment by alppuccino on 4/16 @ 11:11 am #
I don’t have HBO. Nothing I do puts money in Maher’s pocket. Because he’s a dick.
Comment by alppuccino on 4/16 @ 11:12 am #
So HBO are dicks for having him.
Comment by JD on 4/16 @ 11:19 am #
We can add bigot to the list of nishi’s descriptors, which includes, but is not limited to, genocide supporting, pompous, semi-literate asshat.
Comment by Ardsgaine on 4/16 @ 11:20 am #
It’s funny. The article Cleo quoted from actually has a much more balanced conclusion than one would think given what he was trying to make of it.
There is absolutely no reason to think that Joseph Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI, is now or has ever been secretly a Nazi. Nothing he has ever said or done even remotely suggests the slightest sympathy with any of the basic Nazi ideas or goals. Any claim that he is a Nazi is implausible at best.
He goes on to say that the pope might be faulted for not throwing himself under the Nazi war machine, but I guess the same could have been said about Peter with regard to the Romans. As an atheist myself, I just don’t see the point of this line of criticism. To expect a 14 yr old to carry such a moral burden is the sort of attitude I would expect from the Church in its heretic-burning heyday, but not from someone with pretensions to enlightenment. And if the 14 yr old was not responsible, then the 81 yr old isn’t either.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 4/16 @ 11:20 am #
What do you know…Matoko learned to spell. And has almost mastered the shift key.
Comment by Old Texas Turkey on 4/16 @ 11:31 am #
Maher probably has advanced stage siphyllis (sp). Spending much time in the grotto of the Playboy Mansion pool has its pitfalls.
Besides that, having a former standup comic play political commentator just shows the seriousness that the network hosting him/her is about presenting a political discussion. Witness CNN bringing Louis Black in on a election roundtable. Here’s a guy (who has some funny stuff at times) whose real claim to fame is incoporating vile BDS in his routine along with the “considerable” talent of saying “fuck” like he has torrets syndrome. He’s an authority on politics now? He and John Stewart can discuss the finer points of public policy and make a legitimate point to an intelligent viewer? Or just say fuck Cheney enough times to make the stupid roll over in titters.
CNN, E! Entertainment, MSNBC and FOX – the line between news and Britneytainment is nigh. The rest of us go back to reading, like it was done in the Guttenberg days.
Cleo/Smitty – fuck you. If the uninformed are like children, you are the pedophiles.
Comment by Enoch_Root - TWP also on 4/16 @ 11:32 am #
Maher is a bigot. Cleo is just not well-informed enough to have an actual opinion. Prob came from one of those funky “churches” that were full of anti-Papist bigots. And for teh Cleo, she has likely completely turned from teh Evils of Christianity, embracing her new found “enlattened fullosophy” as well as her indoctrinated hatred of teh Evil Catholic Church!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Techie on 4/16 @ 11:38 am #
If you google “teachers” and “molestation”, you get a ton of hits. I’ve always wondered why “pedophile teacher jokes” never made it big on Leno, Maher, etc.
It’s not for a lack of material.
Comment by Enoch_Root - TWP also on 4/16 @ 11:51 am #
Could it be because teacher molesters are usually not of teh Gay variety?
Or, could it be that we all know teachers are well-intentioned… even if they do rape children?
Comment by BJTexs TW/BP on 4/16 @ 11:53 am #
Techie:
BEACUSE OF TEH HYPOCRICY!!
Comment by Smithers on 4/16 @ 12:01 pm #
Jesus, as the only one here who ever watches the show, Maher makes a joke a week or so on how public school teachers screw their 13 year old charges. His last joke on the subject was on the 4/4/08 show. It’s available for podcast, so Maher won’t get ny of your money.
Talk about a strawman massacre. This entire thread is beating up on ‘cleo, who seems to be a target of more sexual abuse than your average Boston altar boy (at least on this thread, it’s verbal) or misconceptions about a political hack/entertainer you despise because of his politics. Now, if he were not funny, then you all would love him (remembers rightie love for “entertainer” political hack Fred Thompson).
Comment by McGehee on 4/16 @ 12:04 pm #
Sexual abuse? Do what now?
Comment by JD on 4/16 @ 12:06 pm #
smithers – Isn’t that the asshat from the Simpsons? Figures.
Comment by Lisa on 4/16 @ 12:06 pm #
God, I didn’t know that people were still trying to trot out that Nazi youth thing. That is so shitty. We feel sorry for kids conscripted unwillingly into wretched wars in Sudan and Rwanda. But the Pope gets herded into the brownshirts as a kid, and he is an asshole Nazi for life? Please don’t be ridiculous. I have no issue with people objecting to religious organizations. But this is foolish. Of all of the religions, I respect Catholics for their consistency. They are prolife: Which means they object to abortion, gratuitous warmongering, and the death penalty. That is an unassailable position, in my opinion. More often than not, they are on OUR side – they really, really believe that combating poverty and oppression is MORE important than their other pet peeves about sexuality and family planning (though their limitations on birth control and family planning are not helpful at all to combating poverty, in my opinion).
I just don’t get it the pope-hate. I mean, none of the monotheistic religions are exactly hotbeds of feminist forward thinking and social liberalism, but Catholics come way closer to my worldview than any other major religion (unitarians don’t count, and they are not huge enough to be very influential the way Catholics are).
Comment by Techie on 4/16 @ 12:07 pm #
I forgot where Fred Thompson called the leader of a world religion with a billion plus members “the world leader of Child molesters”.
I can imagine Jeremiah Wright saying it, however.
Comment by JD on 4/16 @ 12:12 pm #
Lisa – That is why you will never be a good troll, and why we like you.
Comment by Pablo on 4/16 @ 12:13 pm #
Perhaps he also spent too much time in Hef’s monkey cage.
Smithers, Maher can be funny and would probably be more so if he wasn’t so busy trying to be clever. Oh, and he’s a hack. But still, he can make good sense from time to time.
Comment by McGehee on 4/16 @ 12:14 pm #
Yeah, Lisa — that whole “finding common ground with The Other” thing, when “The Other” is us neo-theo-neo-theo-cons, is just not cool in troll circles.
Comment by Pablo on 4/16 @ 12:15 pm #
Not only is Lisa not a troll, she’s on her way over to the dark side.
Mwahahahahahahaha!!!!
Comment by Mikey NTH on 4/16 @ 12:18 pm #
Lisa – you haven’t let your empathy, your common humanity, be swept away by your politics. And that’s a good thing. Here is a quick test: If you ever start finding yourself acting like the folks over at D.U. – take a break from politics, a long one.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 4/16 @ 12:19 pm #
BTW: It’s a test I use on myself, and at times it has led me to step back and just delete a comment.
Comment by Smirky McChimp on 4/16 @ 12:32 pm #
Maher’s problem is he’s nowhere near as smart has he thinks he is. He’s never thought deeply about serious matters. His schtick is being “edgy”, which was super-cool in the 90’s, but wears heavy these days.
He’s also nowhere near as funny as he thinks he is. His wordplay is all right, but as far as delivery and timing goes, he’s only mediocre (especially when compared to someone like Jon Stewart, for whom delivery and timing are the entire enchilada, most of what he has to say being hardly relevatory).
Plus, he needs to stop talking out of his maxillary sinus. Fucker sounds like someone fed Andy Rooney some downers.
Comment by Dave in SoCal on 4/16 @ 12:33 pm #
smithers – Isn’t that the asshat from the Simpsons?
I think he prefers the term “Professional Yes-Man”
Comment by Lisa on 4/16 @ 12:40 pm #
Very kind words, thank you.
There are hundres, probably thousands of places on the web where people can go to rant about the “other side”. There are just as many forums for people to yell insults at each other. But it is rare to find places to really explore the ideas and philosophy of people who have a different worldview from yourself in a reasonable manner that helps you to come away thinking “huh, I never actually considered that before”. This place is such a rare gem. And so funny!
Comment by Lisa on 4/16 @ 1:01 pm #
Smirky, yes. He is so 90s. Sometimes, he can still make me laugh, but mostly, he is a bore. I used to love how he would get a salon of lunatics together and throw out a topic and let everyone go nuts with it. It was a great. But it is tired now, and he should NEVER do monologues. They are super-unfunny. He is like Dennis Miller. You kind of think, “Why is this guy in TV and who decided he was funny?”
Comment by Slartibartfast on 4/16 @ 1:08 pm #
Liar and slave!
Comment by Father Cornhole on 4/16 @ 1:08 pm #
What I REALLY love about the pope is watching him travel behind five inches of bulletproof glass . . . now THAT’S faith in action!
Comment by Merovign on 4/16 @ 1:21 pm #
If you can truly judge people by their enemies, then the Catholic Church is looking better every day.
How long has Miss Cleo been trolling here, anyway?
Gabble kingpin hold front yelp with anger vine doorman, cleo.
Comment by Ardsgaine on 4/16 @ 1:28 pm #
They are prolife: Which means they object to abortion, gratuitous warmongering, and the death penalty. That is an unassailable position, in my opinion.
Unless you believe in a woman’s right to her body, and the right to self-defense. I guess that makes me pro-death.
Heh. I had a lady call me one night and start into a spiel about how she was calling on behalf of some pro-life organization. I cut her off. I said, “I’m pro-death… definitely pro-death.” Click. She hung up.
Comment by Smirky McChimp on 4/16 @ 1:31 pm #
Lisa, I have to agree, Dennis Miller is not funny on regular TV. His whole game is mixing a postgraduate education with a merry sprinkling of expletives. Within a show designed to fit that, it works, and his HBO series was actually a hoot (Dennis, I think, in fact, you DO want to go off on a rant here).
But he’s not the man for news-talk, any more than he’s the man for Monday Night Football (due to recent NFL regulations that require you to be dumber than Forrest Gump after four shots of tequila to be hired as a sportscaster). His show was tepid and un-remarkable.
Comment by Smirky McChimp on 4/16 @ 1:34 pm #
“Unless you believe in a woman’s right to her body, and the right to self-defense. I guess that makes me pro-death. ”
Nope, just juvenile enough to pick the one issue out of those listed and yammer about it, because it has particular emotional resonance to you, and ignore the entire thrust of the aforementioned point, which was that the Catholic positions on a host of issues are consistent and bound by principle.
Glad I could clear that up for you.
Comment by Supreme Sky-Father on 4/16 @ 1:42 pm #
“Catholic positions on a host of issues are consistent and bound by principle.”
Consistently about hegemony, control, manipulation, extortion, suppression of science and technology, and homosexual pedophilia. Bound by the principle of hoodwinking obtuse sheep into believing in imaginary beings and myopic nonsense.
Comment by Cave Bear on 4/16 @ 1:44 pm #
Except that Dennis Miller IS funny, whereas Maher is not (never mind that Miller has more intellect than Maher could ever have in ten lifetimes).
Comment by Lisa on 4/16 @ 1:46 pm #
Sigh: Apple, meet orange.
I am not making the statement on the wrongness or rightness of abortion politics. I am saying that those who say they cherish human life and do not want to be in the business of offing adults, zygotes and everything in between are at least admirably consistent in thier philosophy.
I dont even know why I bothered.
Comment by Supreme Sky-Father on 4/16 @ 1:47 pm #
“I dont even know why I bothered.”
This is precisely what your parents should have told their abortion doctor.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 4/16 @ 1:50 pm #
That was uncalled for.
Really uncalled for.
We do have the kooks out in force today, don’t we?
Comment by Smirky McChimp on 4/16 @ 1:53 pm #
“Consistently about hegemony, control, manipulation, extortion, suppression of science and technology, and homosexual pedophilia. Bound by the principle of hoodwinking obtuse sheep into believing in imaginary beings and myopic nonsense.”
And raping the horses, and riding off on the women, and pruning the hedges of many small villages, and the slapping, and the hurting, and ohhh, I’ve gone cross-eyed…
Standard-Issue Big Mean Religion Rant. If you want to make sly comments about abortions, start with this middle-school-level post.
Comment by bergerbilder on 4/16 @ 1:54 pm #
“14 year-old non-Nazi-obstructionists! I hate those guys.”
Comment by cranky-d on 4/16 @ 1:54 pm #
Most understood what your point was.
Comment by Cave Bear on 4/16 @ 1:56 pm #
I used to think that no one could be more obnoxious than the average hardshell Southern Baptist (such as my father) on a “witnessing” tear. But that is no longer the case.
Clearly the most obnoxious ones are atheists, especially those of the leftwingnut variety (and most do seem to lean that way), who are bound and determined to impose their viewpoint on all and sundry.
One of the things that makes them so hard to take is their propensity to gratuitously lie about those e-vil Xtians, and by so doing demonstrate just how weak their case actually is.
Sigh.
Comment by Enoch_Root - TWP also on 4/16 @ 1:59 pm #
Consistently about hegemony, control, manipulation, extortion, suppression of science and technology, and homosexual pedophilia. Bound by the principle of hoodwinking obtuse sheep into believing in imaginary beings and myopic nonsense.
Uh-oh – someone just finished The_Stranger and had their Nine Inch Nails CDs confiscated by their mommy.
Here’s a tip: read a book once and awhile.
Comment by Cave Bear on 4/16 @ 2:00 pm #
Calm yourself, Lisa. Most of us got the point, although I don’t think there are nearly as many anti-death penalty and anti-war Catholics out there as you might think.
This is because there really are occasions when the death penalty or war are called for, whether you like it or not.
Comment by gamera on 4/16 @ 2:03 pm #
dur
we aint the liars
hahaha
an, btw, i adore dennis miller, despise maher, and dont think Benedict is a nazi.
Comment by gamera on 4/16 @ 2:05 pm #
Lisa…i feel u, hehe.
no matter which side of the looking glass im on its a mirror world.
kossacks are just as whack as the theocons.
Comment by Enoch_Root - TWP also on 4/16 @ 2:05 pm #
Cave Bear – Well, if you REALLY want to know PRECISELY what Catholics profess, you should page through the Catechism. Essentially, it is everything you need to know about where us EVIL oppressionistas stand on everything. It is, alas, what we believe, what we have believed for the last 2,000 years, and what we will continue to profess until the end of time.
I only mention it to let everyone know that in fact the Church is NOT opposed to the Death Penalty per se. Nor is it absolutely opposed to war in all cases, though stringent the qualification of a Just War might be.
Additionally, if we could lay to rest the tired INTERPRETATION of our doctrine of “Papal Infallibility” that would also be helpful.
I don’t care if people hate me for what I believe… I just ask they understand what they hate before they hate it.
Comment by Enoch_Root - TWP also on 4/16 @ 2:08 pm #
Nishtoon – stop already. or return to the old thread where you tried to convince me and some others that we believed Creationism and Evolution we NOT one in the same. Though I dont remember anyone actually making it out to be mutually exclusive around these tubes anyway. No, I state again, “I am not your daddy”
Comment by gamera on 4/16 @ 2:09 pm #
hehe, enoch!
brought to you by the US Bureau of Morality
Comment by alppuccino on 4/16 @ 2:10 pm #
Prob came from one of those funky “churches†that were full of anti-Papist bigots.
Any specific denominations Enoch?
Comment by Enoch_Root - TWP also on 4/16 @ 2:10 pm #
I dont get it… you are too swift for me Nishi
Comment by gamera on 4/16 @ 2:10 pm #
that’s from Year Zero
Comment by Enoch_Root - TWP also on 4/16 @ 2:11 pm #
Al –
hmmmm. yes, of the anti-Papist variety.
Comment by Cave Bear on 4/16 @ 2:12 pm #
I wondered how long that would take (“expelledexposed.com”, or something like it).
Comment by Cowboy on 4/16 @ 2:12 pm #
Lisa:
I appreciate your civility a lot, particularly in light of drive-by dumbasses like “Supreme Why-Bother?”.
I’m thinking of sending you a John Deere cap!
Comment by gamera on 4/16 @ 2:13 pm #
sheesh…. trent reznor? NIN?
Comment by gamera on 4/16 @ 2:15 pm #
believed Creationism and Evolution..
watwatwat????
wait till i tell ben stein u are ALL darwinists!!!!!
lolz
Comment by Enoch_Root - TWP also on 4/16 @ 2:16 pm #
gamera – some of us had to endure his early releases when msm was beginning to push his tripe. it is still tripe… but he is nothing but a marketing firm.
Comment by Enoch_Root - TWP also on 4/16 @ 2:17 pm #
twatwatwat – you can say that again
Comment by McGehee on 4/16 @ 2:17 pm #
Also proving my point in #38.
Comment by alppuccino on 4/16 @ 2:18 pm #
hmmmm. yes, of the anti-Papist variety.
Not Lutheran though, of course.
Comment by gamera on 4/16 @ 2:20 pm #
hahahaha
omg, u guyz are mirror images of the kossacks.
ur identity politics just have different names is all.
/yawn
hard to tell who is more boring or stupider.
i think it’s isomorphic.
Comment by gamera on 4/16 @ 2:23 pm #
then enoch….
go away.
quit trying to force IDT discussion into uni and highschool science classes under the fakery of wanting “open discussion”.
Comment by Pablo on 4/16 @ 2:24 pm #
Bill? Is that you?
Comment by mojo on 4/16 @ 2:24 pm #
Probably oughta go somewhere less boring then, big guy. I understand Tokyo has a dearth of giant flying turtleoids at the moment.
Comment by Enoch_Root - TWP also on 4/16 @ 2:25 pm #
Al – “anit-Papist” is what I wrote. What I mean is any “Chistian” church that defines itself in terms of what it DOES NOT have in common with the RCC. And there are many, many to choose from.
As for Lutherans, at least the MO Synod ones… most of their pastors adhere to moderate views on the RCC. Not to say the theological stances are not vastly distinct in some very fundamental ways. But they don’t tear others down to build themselves up. So, no… I wouldn’t expect virulent anti-Papist bigotry from their ranks. To the contrary, I find fellowship with them mostly.
Comment by Pablo on 4/16 @ 2:27 pm #
Damn. I must spend 1600 hours a week on that very project. The forcing, I live for it! And nishi? You’re an idiot. Dawkins thinks you’re an idiot. Stein thinks you’re an idiot. The kossaks think you’re an idiot. We think you’re an idiot.
It’s time you accepted the possibility that you just might be an idiot. There is consensus. It’s settled.
Comment by Enoch_Root - TWP also on 4/16 @ 2:27 pm #
gamera – your crack pipe awaits. you have the brain of a small flea. you havent a clue about what anyone’s position is on anything… well, mostly because you do not listen. you blab. you parents have spoiled you.
Comment by Cave Bear on 4/16 @ 2:27 pm #
Enoch, I was not criticizing Catholicism. I was correcting Lisa’s wrong-headed notion that Catholics were so monolithic on certain issues.
Comment by gamera on 4/16 @ 2:28 pm #
not GW, lolz.
those 400,000 snowflake embryos are deaders as soon as their cryostasis expiration dates come up.
shudn’t he be making more of an effort to get host uteruses for them?
Comment by Enoch_Root - TWP also on 4/16 @ 2:29 pm #
Cave Bear – didnt mean to say you were criticizing. didnt take it that way at all. should have divided up those sentiments. bad post … my fault. :)
Comment by alppuccino on 4/16 @ 2:29 pm #
To the contrary, I find fellowship with them mostly.
I’m ACLU and we do a pretty funky Onward Christian Soldiers. That’s why I was confused. Sorry to interrupt your quality nishi time.
Comment by Enoch_Root - TWP also on 4/16 @ 2:30 pm #
those 400,000 snowflake embryos are deaders as soon as their cryostasis expiration dates come up.
glad life means nothing to you. you seemed to have found the right faith to adhere to, nishi.
Comment by alppuccino on 4/16 @ 2:31 pm #
ACLU – I’m also a moron. ELCA. Totally different.
Comment by cranky-d on 4/16 @ 2:31 pm #
I thought “gamera” was going away. She just shifted threads.
Comment by MayBee on 4/16 @ 2:32 pm #
Damn. I must spend 1600 hours a week on that very project.
Wow. When do you find the time to practice your John Wayne worship?
Comment by gamera on 4/16 @ 2:33 pm #
gamera is a good monster turtle.
he fights the bad monsters.
im finding plenty bad monsters here, tyvm.
Comment by Pablo on 4/16 @ 2:34 pm #
I just ask God to care for the Duke between my thumbscrew sessions with academia.
Comment by Enoch_Root - TWP also on 4/16 @ 2:35 pm #
al – better get your pastor on the line… stat. once he realizes you confused the two… I am pretty sure you’ll be excommunicated. if’n you want, I got an old indulgence hanging around… I only charge $15 per “hall pass”. Interested? :)
Comment by Pablo on 4/16 @ 2:37 pm #
Gamera, like the vast majority of what fills your head, is fiction. Refer to the conclusion in my #131.
Comment by cranky-d on 4/16 @ 2:40 pm #
I have the feeling that you find them wherever you go.
Comment by Enoch_Root - TWP also on 4/16 @ 2:40 pm #
Gamara – pls go monsterbate on a different thread.
Comment by Dave in SoCal on 4/16 @ 2:42 pm #
Yes, nishi. You’ve conquered all the bad monsters here. Mission accomplished. Time for you to pull your head and limbs back into your shell, shoot fire out of every orifice and then fly off to your hidden lair far, far away from here.
Screen door, butt, way out, etc.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 4/16 @ 2:45 pm #
Damn. I must spend 1600 hours a week on that very project.
Pablo bills like a lawyer!
Comment by Smirky McChimp on 4/16 @ 2:48 pm #
And when the Anime LOLCat shows up, the conversation gains several categories of dumb.
“Isomorphic” dumb.
Comment by Patrick Chester on 4/16 @ 2:50 pm #
Cavebear wrote;
I suppose they may tie… and the atheists you mention are just on a “witnessing” tear themselves, but don’t say that to them or they’ll get all pissy because they couldn’t possibly be exactly like the “theists” they hate so.
Comment by Ardsgaine on 4/16 @ 2:51 pm #
Nope, just juvenile enough to pick the one issue out of those listed and yammer about it, because it has particular emotional resonance to you, and ignore the entire thrust of the aforementioned point, which was that the Catholic positions on a host of issues are consistent and bound by principle.
She said it was “unassailable” and that was the point to which I was responding. A position can be internally consistent, but that doesn’t make it admirable if the principles are not grounded in reality. There’s an internal logic to the radical Muslim position also, but that doesn’t make it unassailable.
Can I assume that you are pro-life, anti-war, and anti-death penalty, since you’re defending her statement that that is an unassailable position?
Glad I could clear that up for you.
Thanks. It’s my birthday today, and I was feeling old until you called me juvenile. Now I feel young again. Do you mind if I keep talking with the adults, since it is my birthday and all? Or do I need to go to my room?
Comment by Patrick Chester on 4/16 @ 2:53 pm #
Egads, nishi’s REALLY melting down.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 4/16 @ 2:55 pm #
“Clearly the most obnoxious ones are atheists, especially those of the leftwingnut variety (and most do seem to lean that way), who are bound and determined to impose their viewpoint on all and sundry.”
Evangelizing Atheists? I’ve met them before, when I was in undergrad. Couldn’t get them to shut-up, a real mood killer at parties.
Comment by Enoch_Root - TWP also on 4/16 @ 2:56 pm #
Why is Bill “the Big-ot” Maher shown in this pic with the cast of some show called “Deep Space Nine”? Is that really him: http://www.solcomhouse.com/STDS9_cast_season_5-6.jpg
Comment by Ardsgaine on 4/16 @ 3:03 pm #
Clearly the most obnoxious ones are atheists, especially those of the leftwingnut variety (and most do seem to lean that way), who are bound and determined to impose their viewpoint on all and sundry.
The vast majority of the atheists I know are on the right, like me. I’m sure it’s just the company I keep though. We aren’t trying to impose our viewpoint on anyone, just defending our right not to be imposed on in turn. If you see me here arguing theology, it’s because I like to debate. I’m not trying to browbeat anyone, and I appreciate not being browbeaten in return.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 4/16 @ 3:03 pm #
Anytime you want some moonbeams, Gamera is the thing. Gamera is really neat, he is filled with turtle meat, we all love you, Gamera!
Comment by Rob Crawford on 4/16 @ 3:05 pm #
How can you tell?
Comment by Enoch_Root - TWP also on 4/16 @ 3:05 pm #
IMPOSER-IST!
Comment by gamera on 4/16 @ 3:18 pm #
Lisa, i shud make an isomorphism thread somewhere.
it is mega-entertaining for these guyz here to watch the dems ripping each other up in the HRC vs O war of the gargantuas, but this is mono-hilarious too, huckacons vs the mittacons.
an the funniest thing is that Allahpundit cant ban the sandwichboard guys (red pills and st. olaf) cuz they are good theocon/republicans.
Comment by gamera on 4/16 @ 3:19 pm #
mondo hilarious…..best stuff on page 4 of the comments
Comment by Gamera's Brain on 4/16 @ 3:25 pm #
Must… find… lithium… must… return to… sector 13xI12-3.5
Comment by Education Guy on 4/16 @ 3:25 pm #
Happy Birthday Ardsgaine!
Comment by Pablo on 4/16 @ 3:38 pm #
Turtle meat? I’m getting a woody!
Comment by Dave in SoCal on 4/16 @ 3:40 pm #
#159 So much dumb in here. Not sure where to begin
Lisa, i shud make an isomorphism thread somewhere.
Yes you should. And as far away from here as possible. Please?
it is mega-entertaining for these guyz here to watch the dems ripping each other up in the HRC vs O war of the gargantuas, but this is mono-hilarious too, huckacons vs the mittacons.
Yes, Obamessiah and Shrillery battling it out for the Dem nomination is entertaining, but for sheer edge-of-your-seat excitement you need to check out these two guys on this thread who are, like, arguing about two Repub candidates who have already dropped out of the race. Riveting.
an the funniest thing is that Allahpundit cant ban the sandwichboard guys (red pills and st. olaf) cuz they are good theocon/republicans.
Sure, in the same way that Jeff can’t ban you from this site no matter how loony tunes you get cuz you’re a good theocon/republican. Just let that thought marinate for awhile.
Comment by alppuccino on 4/16 @ 3:40 pm #
al – better get your pastor on the line… stat. once he realizes you confused the two… I am pretty sure you’ll be excommunicated. if’n you want, I got an old indulgence hanging around… I only charge $15 per “hall passâ€Â. Interested? :)
The pastor is my Mother, so I’m washed in the cool water of nepotism.
Comment by McGehee on 4/16 @ 3:41 pm #
Hey, there’s an ideas! On YOUR OWN BLOG.
Comment by Ardsgaine on 4/16 @ 3:46 pm #
Happy Birthday Ardsgaine!
Thanks!! :)
Comment by Patrick Carroll on 4/16 @ 3:49 pm #
Maher is simply tiresome.
Comment by gamera on 4/16 @ 4:00 pm #
cuz you’re a good theocon/republican.
but im not.
im votin for O.
happy bday ards!
wow, your bday is the same as Benedict’s!
Comment by Pablo on 4/16 @ 4:02 pm #
Oh, you’re a Godbotherer alright.
Comment by gamera on 4/16 @ 4:03 pm #
aww, comon, those guyz are teh awesome!
god told red pills in the shower that huck was gonna be prez.
an st.olaf defined a christian!
Comment by thor on 4/16 @ 4:24 pm #
No wonder some call Obama “the messiah.” That goose/gander good-for thing ricochets like none other.
That said, ya mon, I’m down with the Pope. Osama bin Laden hates the Pope so he’s got to be doing good work.
Comment by JD on 4/16 @ 4:35 pm #
Ards – Happy Birthday !!!!! I enjoy you, FWIW. you make me think, and for some reason, I feel bad cussing in a conversation with you.
nishidiot, on the other hand, is a fucking oozing twatwaffle of the highest order. Make it go away !!!!!
Comment by Enoch_Root on 4/16 @ 4:52 pm #
Yes – happy b-day Ards, you twisted bastard. I meant the happy b-day bit.
Comment by Lisa on 4/16 @ 5:58 pm #
Gamera, I know they are enjoying the Barack/Hillary Shit-Talk Express. But I gotta admit I loved watching the Huckabee/Ron Paul/Handsome Mormon Guy mash-up. I really liked the Ron Paul craziness. The Ron Paul activists acted like those alien thingies from Ender’s Game. They would all swarm a website that said anything unpleasant about Ron Paul almost before the blogger could hit “submit”. Then they would swarm over to another place, like angry Africanized bees. Watching all of the conservative bloggers jump around trying to swat them off was quite entertaining.
Comment by Ardsgaine on 4/16 @ 6:07 pm #
Thanks guys! I enjoy hanging out here with you, especially even when we disagree. You guys are well informed on a wide range of topics. I learn a lot from reading PW and from the conversations we have. Hope you all have a great evening! :)
Comment by Ardsgaine on 4/16 @ 6:09 pm #
Damn strikethrough tag…
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 4/16 @ 7:18 pm #
“gamera is a good monster turtle.
he fights the bad monsters.
im finding plenty bad monsters here, tyvm.”
And losing miserably you little flake. We get it. Catholicism was too tough for you. I share some of your feelings in regards to it as I did 13 years in catholic school. After that, you became a sufi. You couldn’t even commit to being a real Muslim, so you became a sufi. Btw, sufi’s are alright by me. My sister is a sufi. And she is a wonderful human being as well as a brazen kook like you. And obviously pedophilia is not a deal breaker for you as mo was good for it. You’re clearly a weak scared little girl, nishi. Nothing more. Pity is your prize.
Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 4/16 @ 7:23 pm #
Oh and Happy Birthday Ardsgaine. I truly enjoy your comments, especially when I don’t agree.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 4/16 @ 8:04 pm #
#175 Lisa –
Yeah, the Ronulans were fun. Just like Fisking Robert Fisk; I mean how much stupid could you disassemble? Then it was just go for insults.
Good times, good times – for a being with a functioning piece of reason.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 4/16 @ 8:06 pm #
And Happy B-Day Ardsgaine!
So, how old are you? Did you have to go ’round the tables, or were you able to pass on that bit o’ fun?
Happy Birthday!
Comment by Ardsgaine on 4/16 @ 8:45 pm #
I’m 23… my body is 45, but I’m still 23.
What does it mean to go ’round the tables? That went over my head.
We didn’t do much to celebrate. I’ve been opening my birthday presents as they came in–books all–so there was nothing to do in that regard. I didn’t want cake or candles. I cooked a roast for dinner, had a couple of glasses of wine, and a bowl of ice cream. Woohoo! We’ve got three April birthdays in the family, though, so we’re going to party down a week from Saturday and celebrate them all at once. Should be fun.
Comment by The Lost Dog on 4/16 @ 11:14 pm #
“Comment by Smithers on 4/16 @ 12:01 pm #
Jesus, as the only one here who ever watches the show, Maher makes a joke a week or so on how public school teachers screw their 13 year old charges. His last joke on the subject was on the 4/4/08 show. It’s available for podcast, so Maher won’t get ny of your money.
Talk about a strawman massacre. This entire thread is beating up on ‘cleo, who seems to be a target of more sexual abuse than your average Boston altar boy (at least on this thread, it’s verbal) or misconceptions about a political hack/entertainer you despise because of his politics. Now, if he were not funny, then you all would love him (remembers rightie love for “entertainer†political hack Fred Thompson).”
I think what you are missing here is the raw, smarmy arrogance of a screaming, egotistical elitist. Bill Maher is nothing more than an eighth grade exhibitionist with a totally unbalanced TV show.
Bill Maher says nothing that a lot of my friends don’t say, but his fucking ATTITUDE makes me puke. He is just so much SMARTER than anyone else, nes’t pas? I can disagree with you, and vice versa, without taking every oportunity to show each other how hateful we can be. This man loves hinself more than I loved my first orgasm.
I honestly have tried to accept his approach, but I just can’t deal with his condescension. Just look at his smirking face!. This is not a man who gives a shit about anyone but himself. Basic decency?
NAH! I AM THEEEEE FUCKING BILL MAHER!!!! YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO OPPOSE ME!!!! AND I WILL TAKE A SHOWER WITH YOUR BARELY LEGAL DAUGHTER!!!!
You don’t have to fill the world with hate to fuck twenty year old pre-teens at the Playboy Mansion. If that’s your bent, there are much easier and less destructive ways to do it.
Respect? None for you, because I am SOOO much smarter and prettier than you!
Comment by Darleen on 4/17 @ 12:22 am #
Ards
Happy B-day!
I’m 23… my body is 45, but I’m still 23.
Hmmmm… I think my best age was about 28 or 29… I get up in the morning sometimes and see a grandmother staring back.
Oh gawd, that’s me now! Doesn’t match the internal me.
But hey, it’s still better than the alternative.
Many many years of good health and happiness for you!
Comment by Darleen on 4/17 @ 12:24 am #
Lost Dog
Maher is really pretty pathetic… failed comedian, failed talk show host, failed human being (who is unable to have any kind of meaningful relationship with others)
Thank god he has never reproduced! His genes are gone forever from the pool when he goes. He is an evolutionary dead-end.
No wonder he’s bitter.
Comment by gamera on 4/17 @ 5:32 am #
heh, Lisa, the sandwichboard guys at HotAir are truly hilarious tho.
comedy gold.
Did you know McCain hasn’t been baptized? I wonder if Benedict might baptize him while he’s on tour.
dKos is a lot like this place tho….just more diarists and man, are they ever high verbal.
they make Karl look like a piker.
Comment by gamera on 4/17 @ 5:41 am #
speaking of handsomemormonguy, i haven’t seen zip about the polygamy ranch on the rightside blogs.
a lot of coverage of this.
perhaps that is because it is a MORMON polygamy ranch.
Comment by gamera on 4/17 @ 5:42 am #
meh
this= 8-yr-old yemeni bride
Comment by McGehee on 4/17 @ 5:49 am #
So the “PW has been taken over by theocon moties” BS apparently doesn’t necessarily mean PW is a “rightside blog?”
You’re a lunatic, nishtoon.
Comment by Darleen on 4/17 @ 7:12 am #
nishi
You may note what the Mormon Church has done vis a via all splinter polygamy groups … publically denounced them and have no ties with them. (being America, they can’t do anything else)
That the leaders of Islam did the same thing with moslem terror sects.
You never seem to want to talk about that, eh, Mz splodeydope?
Comment by gamera on 4/17 @ 7:29 am #
nah this is more interesting
lookie
K-Lo
Comment by gamera on 4/17 @ 7:31 am #
wow…is k-lo seriously suggesting Uncle Fester gets to influence american legislative process?
wat about the separation of church and state?
i think k-lo has been pithed by the papacy.
Comment by Rob Crawford on 4/17 @ 8:14 am #
Nishidiot, a resolution is not legislation. It’s a feel-good measure, an “atta-boy!”.
Who pithed you?
I mean, at least K-lo can write like a literate person. Clearly she has more high brain functions than you.
Comment by McGehee on 4/17 @ 8:38 am #
nishtoon, u r pwn3d!
Comment by Smithers on 4/17 @ 9:10 am #
Ah, Enoch root, supporting flip-flopper John McCain has prepared you not to notice changes in Catholic doctrine over the last 2000 years. How’s transubstantiation working for you? How about priests marrying? Mass in Latin? Usury laws? Indulgences?
No changes in 2000 years! We will believe it all until the end of time! Ignore please that we once believed creation happened in six days, the sun revolved around the Earth, and the word of God is literal (thank you to Aquinas for helping us out of that mess!). Now, we’re fine with Darwin (as long as God is still is a part: http://www.catholic.net/RCC/Issues/Pope-and-Evolution/pope-and-evolution.html)
and we apologized to Copernicus and Galileo, and that word of God sure is “inspirational”.
But, we haven’t changed in 2000 years.
Leaving aside my personal contempt at your worldview, who would want to be a part of an organization that didn’t change in 2000 years. The Church inspires a billion people precisely because it changes its message when it realizes it is wrong. It no longer supports the murder and subjugation of native people, because it realized that was wrong. It doesn’t contest political control of Italy with armies of spearmen. it doesn’t attempt to assassinate the Protestant King of England. It doesn’t accept cash as a way to get one’s loved ones out of Purgatory.
If the Church’s message speaks to you and inspires you, then great for you and your fellow believers, but acting as if the Church is infallible and hasn’t changed is Collins-esque craziness. It has changed, should continue to change, and will change, and when it does, it will still inspire people to embrace Jesus’s message of love and hope.
Those of us who don’t believe, however, would really like it if those of you who do with hold off on the outrage directed toward us and direct at the the Church elders, who purposefully hid, sinners within its ranks.
Rather than being angry at Maher for pointing to the American Church’s culpability in molestation, maybe you could help change the Church from the inside?
Probably too much to ask for when the entire focus of Darleen, Danny, Karl, JD, Enoch, etc is Manichean. I’m on the good team and Bill Maher is BAAADDD. Won’t revitalize the Church’s image, but it will still have the 40 odd kooks that make up PW.
Comment by JD on 4/17 @ 10:03 am #
smithers – Mr. Burns is looking for you.
nishidiot – Aren’t you the least bit embarassed?
Why is it that our trolls read for comprehension only slightly better than a box of rocks on the short bus?
Comment by guinsPen on 4/17 @ 10:33 am #
40 odd kooks that make up PW.
52, more or less.
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