February 23, 2008
Weather Report

Cloudy and overcast, with a progressive chance of forgiving terrorist bombings — and befriending those sophisticates who commit them — come November.

Part of all of that changyness and hopeitude, you see.

YES WE CAN!

(h/t STACLU)

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  1. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 1:41 pm #

    oh the weathermen arent terrorists……they’re dylanists.

    ive been meanin to ask, jeffie.
    did u ever read Yvgeny Zamietian’s Mbi (We) or see the movie?

  2. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 1:43 pm #

    the original
    gawd, i lurvs utube

  3. Comment by RTO Trainer on 2/23 @ 2:03 pm #

    Not Terrorists?

    6 December 1969 — United States, The Weather Underground bombs several police vehicle in Chigaco to retaliate for the killing of Black Panther Party leaders Mark Clark and Fred hampton on 4 December 1969, by Chicago Police. Weather Underground

    13 February 1970 — United States, Weather Underground bombs several police cars of the Berkley, California Police Department. Weather Underground

    16 February 1970 — United States, A bomb detonated at the Golden Gate Park Branch of the San Francisco Police Department killing one officer and injuring several others. Weather Underground

    6 March 1970 — United States, While one Weather Underground group is preparing to bomb a police facility in Detroit, Michigan, another group blows themselves up when their “bomb factory” located in Greenwich Village accidentally explodes. WUO members Theodore Gold, Diana Oughton and Terry Robbins die in this incident. Weather Underground

    6 March 1970 — United States, Thirty-four stick of dynamite were discovered in the 13th Police District of the Detroit, Michigan Police Department. Members of the Weather Underground were reportedly in Detrout in February and March for the purpose of bombing a police facility. Weather Underground

    30 March 1970 — United States, Chicago Police discover a Weather Underground “bomb factory” on Chicago’s north side. A subsequent discovery of a WUO “weapons cache” in a south side Chicago apartment several days later ends WUO activity in the city. Weather Underground

    10 May 1970 — United States, The National Guard Association building in Washington DC was bombed. Weather underground claims responsibility four years later. Weather Underground

    9 June 1970 — United States, Weather Underground bombs the headquarters of the new York City Police Department. The issue a statement saying “The pigs of this country are our enemies…. “The pigs try to look invulnerable, but we (WUO) keep finding their weaknesses.” Weather Underground

    9 June 1970 — United States, The Bank of America Building in New York City is bombed. Weather Underground takes credit. Weather Underground

    24 August 1970 — United States, The Army Mathematics Research Center on the University of Wisconsin campus was blown up resulting in one death. Weather Underground

    12 September 1970 — United States, The Weather Underground carries out the escape from prison in California of LSD promoter Dr. Timothy Francis Leary. Weather Underground

    5 October 1970 — United States, The Haymarket Statue in Chicago, Illinois is bombed a second time following its reconstruction. Weather Underground takes credit claiming it as the beginning of their “fall offensive.” Weather Underground

    8 October 1970 — United States, Weather Underground bombs the Hall of Justice in Marin County, Califonia and issue a statement that they act is dedicated “to the prisoners of San Quentin, Soledad and new York, and to all Black
    prisoners of war.” Weather Underground

    8 October 1970 — United States, The National Guard armory in Santa Barbara, California was bombed by a group calling itself the “Perfect Park Home Grown Garden Society.” Atlthough the Weather Underground did not claim credit, the 6 October Haymarket message stated that the “fall offensive” would be carried out by “families and tribes” around the country. Weather Underground

    10 October 1970 — United States, The Long Island City, Cey York Court House was bombed by the Weather Underground. Their statement read, “Last night as part of an international conspiracy we blew up the Long Island Criminal Court House – adjacent to the Branch Queens where it all began. With rallies and riots, with marches and molotovs, kids in New York City and around the country will continue the battle.” Weather Underground

    14 October 1970 — United States, The Harvard University Center for international Studies in Cambridge Massachusetts was bombed by a group calling itself the “Proud Eagle Tribe.” Weather Underground wuld take direct credit four years later. Weather Underground

    1 March 1971 — United States, The US Capitol building in Washington DC is bombed by Weather Undergound. “We have attacked the Capitol because it is, along with the White House and the Pentagon the worldwide symbol of the government which is now attacking Indochina. Weather Underground

    28 August 1971 — United States, The Office for California Prisons at the California state office building in Sacramento, California was bombed by the Weather Underground to protest the death of Goerge jackson in San Quentin. Weather Underground

    28 August 1971 — United States, The Departmetn of Corrections office, Ferry building, San Francisco was bombed by Weather Underground to protest the “murder” of George Jackson by California prison authorities. Weather Underground

    17 September 1971 — United States, The New York State Correctiosn Department office in the Twin Towers building in Albany, New York was bombed by Weather Underground to ptotest the deaths of priosnes in the Attica prison riots. Weather Underground

    15 October 1971 — United States, The Herman Building Center for International Affairs located at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Cambridge Massachusetts was bombed by the Proud Eagle Tribe of the WUO. Weather Underground

    19 May 1972 — United States, The US Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia is bombed by the Weather Underground to protest US policy in Vietnam, especially US mining of Vietnam harbors and the bombing of Hanoi. Weather Underground

    18 May 1973 — United States, Several police cars parked at the 103rd Precinct of the NYPD were bombed by the Weather Underground to protest the shooting death of Clifford Clover, a ten year old boy who had been shot by a police officer. Weather Underground

    27 September 1973 — United States, The Latin American headquarters building of the International Telephone and Telegraph Company in New York City is bombed by the Weather Underground to protest the role that the company had palyed in the overthrow of President Allende in Chille. Weather Underground

    7 March 1974 — United States, The office of the Department of Health, Education and Welfare in the US Federal Building in San Francisco was bombed by the Women’s Brigade of the WUO to protest discrimination practiced by the department. Weather Underground

    14 March 1974 — United States, A dinner in honor of New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller was “stinkbombed” by the Weather Underground to protest drug abuse programs fo the Governor and the Governor’s hadling of the Attica prison riots. Weather Underground

    31 May 1974 — United States, The Los Angeles office of California Attorney General Evelle Younger located in the Old State Building was bombed by the Weather Underground in retaliation for the killing of six members of the Symbionese Liberation Army by police. Weather Underground

    13 June 1974 — United States, The International Headquarters of the Gulf Oil Corporation in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania ws bombed by the Weather Underground to protest the company’s involvement in Angola and accusing the company of assisting the portugese government to keep Angola as a colonial posession. Weather Underground

    10 September 1974 — United States, The offices of the Anaconda American Brass Company in Oakland Califonia were bombed by the Weather Underground to protest the company’s actions in Chile. Weather Underground

    17 October 1974 — United States, A meeting of the Boston Massachusetts School Committee is “stinkbombed” by the Weather Underground to protest busing. Weather Underground

    28 January 1975 — United States, The Weather Underground claims responsibility for an explosion in a bathroom at the U.S. Department of State in Washington. Weather Underground

    28 January 1975 — United States, Weather Underground attempted to bomb the Agency for International Development and the US Defense Department offices in Oakland, California, however, the device failed to detonate. Weather Underground

    16 June 1975 — United States, The Banco de Ponce in New York City is bombed by Weather Underground to show solidarity with striking workers in Puerto Rico. Weather Underground

    5 September 1975 — United States, The national headquarters of the Kennecott Copper Company in Salt Lake City, Utah was bombed by the Weather Underground to protest the company’s role in the overthrow of President Allende of Chile. Weather Underground

  4. Comment by B Moe on 2/23 @ 2:05 pm #

    Didn’t you get the memo, RTO? Christianists like McVeigh are the only domestic terrorists.

  5. Comment by Education Guy on 2/23 @ 2:06 pm #

    Silly RTO, leftists don’t commit acts of terrorism. They commit acts of activism. Because they really, really, really care.

  6. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 2:10 pm #

    wow…..all that stuff is so…so….old.
    praps they were terrorists then.
    i maintain they are dylanists now.
    its a style issue.

  7. Comment by Education Guy on 2/23 @ 2:13 pm #

    Have the Obama associates renounced their former membership and acts of violence?

  8. Comment by Jeff G. on 2/23 @ 2:15 pm #

    Haven’t seen it nor read it, nishi. I do have a doc feature on the WU, though. And they were terrorists, even self-professed.

    If you read the comments on IMDB, or on the message board, you’ll see that even today the desire to be a radical is strong among the bourgeois, who haven’t any idea what a real “war machine” looks like, or what real “fascism” and totalitarianism entails.

    Or maybe they do, and are hoping to join the ruling elite.

  9. Comment by Jeff G. on 2/23 @ 2:22 pm #

    EG –

    No, they haven’t. In one of the links, a 2001 piece in the NYT is excerpted, in which Ayers refuses to renounce what he did, and in fact thinks they didn’t do enough.

    Taylor Marsh, last seen around these parts advocating for the Fairness Doctrine; and Larry Johnson, world-class nutjob — are no friends to conservatives. Which is why they themselves point out that putting up a candidate with these kinds of ties is a potential electoral disaster — ‘72 all over again (a fitting end, really, to having to relive the entire Vietnam narrative).

    Unfortunately, I think that we as a country have become so Oprafied and so dumbed down that a charismat like Obama can win, regardless — that form absolutely and finally will trump substance.

    But then, I’m feeling rather cynical these days. And regardless, a progressive will occupy the White House in ‘08.

    Book burnings can’t be far behind.

  10. Comment by Education Guy on 2/23 @ 2:28 pm #

    Ah, thanks. I think the link you may have meant for the Times piece is currently pointing to the first Marsh piece.

    Dr. Seuss deserves to be burned. “Green Eggs and Ham” and “Hop on Pop” are clearly subversive materials. I mean Pop has balls, don’t you dare hop you little bastards.

  11. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 2:30 pm #

    i recommend both the book and movie.
    the book is best in russian, but adequate in translation.
    the movie is ……amazing….brit i think.
    and relevent to wat we are discussin.

    these guys were terrorists over 30 years ago.
    have they done anything since?

  12. Comment by RTO Trainer on 2/23 @ 2:30 pm #

    Of course it’s old, that when tehre were such things as SDS and the Weatehrmen. There’s also a reason that they gave up and went home (Except for the aging WUO hippies who tried to hold up a Brinks armored car in 1981 and got what for when the police enegaged them in a gunfight.)

  13. Comment by Rob Crawford on 2/23 @ 2:34 pm #

    wow…..all that stuff is so…so….old.

    No statute of limitations on murder. And terrorism, while typically inspired by aged losers, is a twenty-something’s game.

    praps they were terrorists then.

    As Jeff pointed out, they used that label themselves.

    i maintain they are dylanists now.

    No, they’re still terrorists, no matter what euphemism you want to use. They have a lot in common with Robert Byrd, actually — members of terrorist organizations that have been rendered acceptable in that the dominant political culture sympathizes with their goals and romanticizes their methods.

  14. Comment by Rob Crawford on 2/23 @ 2:36 pm #

    these guys were terrorists over 30 years ago.
    have they done anything since?

    You’re both pathetic and disgusting.

  15. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 2:37 pm #

    that is why i want jeffie to see that movie and read that book.
    terrorism is for the young.
    for the actual operatives that is, the criminals and killers and bombers.

  16. Comment by LiveFromFortLivingRoom on 2/23 @ 2:38 pm #

    nishizonoshinji

    So there is a statute of limitation on acts of terrorism? Please cite that for me I would love to read it.

  17. Comment by LiveFromFortLivingRoom on 2/23 @ 2:39 pm #

    nishizonoshinji

    You are just a disgusting individual.

  18. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 2:44 pm #

    You are just a disgusting individual.

    why?
    is it because……i can think outside ALL the boxes?

  19. Comment by ushie on 2/23 @ 2:45 pm #

    nishi types: wow…..all that stuff is so…so….old.
    praps they were terrorists then.
    i maintain they are dylanists now.
    its a style issue.

    So, wait, if the bodies John Wayne Gacy had stuffed in his crawlspace hadn’t been discovered for 30 years, he wouldn’t be a disgusting serial killer? If Ted Bundy hadn’t been caught, and had given up on killing college coeds for 30 years, he wouldn’t be a disgusting serial killer?

    What the FUCK is wrong with you, nishi? I’m sure you think you’re cute and all, but Good God, there is something really wrong with you if you don’t think murder and terrorism aren’t life-long indictments of one’s character.

    Yeah, yeah, I know you don’t believe in God, blah blah yadda yadda. Type something really cute in your adorably off-kilter style, why don’t you?

  20. Comment by ushie on 2/23 @ 2:46 pm #

    And what fucking cutesy boxes are you pretending you can think out of? The ones containing morality, ethics, and common sense?

  21. Comment by Lost My Cookies on 2/23 @ 2:48 pm #

    Wow…that’s so…cool.

  22. Comment by bjtexs on 2/23 @ 2:49 pm #

    Nishi:

    If you knifed somebody to death 35 years ago, are you still a murderer today? Does it make a difference whether or not you were caught or got away with it? What if they are unrepentant for their acts. A muslim should know a little about sin, repentance and defiance.

    There are former members of the IRA who are assimilated into society today. are they terrorists, former terrorists or has time and space made them, magically, something else?

    You have a very distrubing moral equivalancy mindset that allows you to wail against “pro life” but shrug off admitted, unrepentant terrorists as “dylanists.”.

  23. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 2:52 pm #

    islam is about justice, tru, bj.

    have these ppl not paid for their acts?
    are u wanting them now to pay for their thots?

  24. Comment by RTO Trainer on 2/23 @ 2:59 pm #

    terrorism is for the young.
    for the actual operatives that is, the criminals and killers and bombers.

    So?

  25. Comment by RTO Trainer on 2/23 @ 3:01 pm #

    have these ppl not paid for their acts?

    No. They have not.

  26. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 3:02 pm #

    but..i thot there was no statute of limitations on murder.

  27. Comment by Jeff G. on 2/23 @ 3:04 pm #

    We’ll see if Obama pays for his act — running for high office while counting among his contributors and political advocates those who championed blowing up government buildings and corporate facilities.

    Or maybe all this assassination porn wrt Obama is really just paranoia about chickens coming home to roost. After all, if it’s okay for the WU to bomb buildings because they disagree with policy — and this is only extreme “activism” and forced changyness — maybe deep down inside progressives think, too, that it’s okay for some kook with a rifle to take Barry out simply because said kook disagrees with the policies of hopeitude.

  28. Comment by Darleen on 2/23 @ 3:05 pm #

    have (sic) these ppl(sic) not paid for their acts?

    Please link to their prison sentences and successfully completed paroles.

  29. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 3:13 pm #

    darleen, not my job.

    jeffie…that is why i really want u to watch We.
    for the empathy.

  30. Comment by JohnAnnArbor on 2/23 @ 3:13 pm #

    This rear-guard action is too late to derail Obama’s nomination. It will, however, be cited in mid-November by Hillary supporters saying “I told you so!”

  31. Comment by Rusty on 2/23 @ 3:27 pm #

    #

    Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 2:44 pm #

    You are just a disgusting individual.

    why?
    is it because……i can think outside ALL the boxes?

    Funny. All I see is a woman in a box she can’t think her way out of. POV and all that.

    BTW Dylan was in it for the money.

  32. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 3:30 pm #

    u need to unnerstand…this is weather underground to me.
    hi john
    go blue.

  33. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 3:31 pm #

    rusty i dont lie.
    :)

  34. Comment by B Moe on 2/23 @ 3:34 pm #

    u need to unnerstand…this is weather underground to me.

    So how ignorant would you be if you weren’t so brilliant, you think?

  35. Comment by Education Guy on 2/23 @ 3:35 pm #

    So all that arguing just to eventually admit that you really have no clue who WU even were. That’s really not so outside the box. It’s really like all the other folks who come here to argue based solely on they thoughts that exist within their head.

    Willing to sell pieces of your soul for Obama’s sake?

  36. Comment by Darleen on 2/23 @ 3:35 pm #

    darleen, not my job

    Yes it is, nishi. You implied that they HAVE paid for their acts.

    Prove it.

  37. Comment by Education Guy on 2/23 @ 3:36 pm #

    they thoughts being my way of saying their thoughts

  38. Comment by Blind Howling Moonbat on 2/23 @ 3:37 pm #

    But McCain was hanging out with lobbyists! LOBBYISTS!!1!!!!111!!

  39. Comment by Darleen on 2/23 @ 3:40 pm #

    nishi

    To mix a few quotes, you’ve “opened” your mind so much, your brains have fallen out. You should realize that an open mind, like an open window, should have a screen to keep the bugs out.

  40. Comment by RTO Trainer on 2/23 @ 3:52 pm #

    “Yvgeny Zamytian’s Mbi”

    Ayn Rand did it better and more believably in “Anthem.”

  41. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 3:58 pm #

    oh Zametian is 1000x cooler than rand.
    have u read My Life as a Dog?

  42. Comment by ushie on 2/23 @ 4:05 pm #

    You’re as easily distracted as a toddler or a small kitten, nishi.

  43. Comment by Jeff G. on 2/23 @ 4:11 pm #

    Seems that suddenly, at least some Dems are — among themselves, naturally — beginning to regret the liberal media bias and cocooning of preferred candidates that they’ve long argued is just a product of wingnut paranoia.

    Like, for instance, this comment from Marsh’s site:

    I agree that the emotions are high here at the moment. But, understand this – my anger (and the anger of many here) is not that we are slightly behind. It is that this election process has shown some glaring unethical chinks in our system. And the unprecedented media pact to protect Obama from any scrutiny goes beyond this particular election. I know that the constant barrage of Hillary hate and sexist behaviors being dismissed seems to be fueling the anger here. But what has made me (and others) decide never to vote for Barack Obama is not typical. I don’t have a problem with his lack of experience, nor his policies (riffed from good people). The policies are similar. I want a Democrat in office. I could vote for almost anyone if I had to. But this?? This is different. We don’t have to just hold our noses and push a lever for a candidate – we have to also push that lever to accept what we see as a very immoral, unethical process that got him there. I cannot do that. I am an American first. If there had just been one or a few articles looking into the other side (on who really pushed the race issue or his boneheaded mistakes) I would say ok – business as usual. But you are asking me to vote to put a man in the office of President that is practically untouchable. That is just too scary. I believe in America, and our Democratic Republic.

    [My emphases]

    The identity politics bed is of their own making, of course, so it’s a constant temptation to find glee in their coming to realize they may just have to lie in it; but in the final analysis, we all will: which is why we need a complete overhaul of the way we conceive of news media in this country, from the philosophical level on up to the proper and practical applications of journalism.

  44. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 4:14 pm #

    trudat.

  45. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 4:16 pm #

    but whatcha gonna do?
    my position as an obamacan has always been that O is the lesser evil.

  46. Comment by B Moe on 2/23 @ 4:23 pm #

    my position as an obamacan has always been that O is the lesser evil.

    No. Your position is he has promised to give you money.

  47. Comment by RTO Trainer on 2/23 @ 4:25 pm #

    And believed that you’d acutally see that money when actually any “savings” will be eaten up by the load placed on the system.

  48. Comment by serr8d on 2/23 @ 4:27 pm #

    all that stuff is so…so….old.

    There are those of us who still think Patty Hearst pulled a fast one getting out of her obvious complicity in the Symbionese Liberation Army’s string of robberies and killings.

    But, her 21-month sentence was commuted by Jimmah; she was pardoned by Cigar Boy. Thus is justice served, Democrat Style.

    Now? A big Dem donor, probably.

  49. Comment by RTO Trainer on 2/23 @ 4:29 pm #

    I guess I’ll chase the rabbit down the hole. (Usually a poor tactical move but sometimes necessary.)

    With what or whom do you think Jeff should be empathizing, Nishi?

    Jeff, were you aware that you somehow lack empathy?

  50. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 4:29 pm #

    ?
    O hasnt promised me $.

    well….im goin on strike until feets comes back and jeffie watches “We”.
    cya

  51. Comment by JHoward on 2/23 @ 4:31 pm #

    i can think outside ALL the boxes?

    but obviously not all the vernaculars
    so how bout this
    as mouthbreathinredstater i cant thnk outsid yer fabulous boxes
    so go the f away and nvr com bak

  52. Comment by B Moe on 2/23 @ 4:34 pm #

    ?
    O hasnt promised me $.

    He announces he is dropping support for your pet biotech projects and you are still going to support him?

    You are confined by a very tiny box, it is just to dark in there for you to realize it.

  53. Comment by JHoward on 2/23 @ 4:36 pm #

    In other words, nishi, the lowest form of enlightenment is that which attempts to appeal to the cheapest strawmen. As was pointed out, you occupy one box, you do not skirt the periphery of many.

    You are a minor dimension disguising itself as a comprehensive perspective.

  54. Comment by Jeff G. on 2/23 @ 4:40 pm #

    Au contraire. The world is too much with me, RTO.

  55. Comment by Merovign on 2/23 @ 4:41 pm #

    Nishi, if you really think terrorism and murder is just a “youthful indiscretion,” then in fact you ARE pathetic and disgusting. Do you really think that shooting people or blowing them up is “cute” or a matter of “style?”

    Are you just a psychopath or are you so absorbed in your own fantasy world that you’ve turned into some kind of bloodthirsty solipsist, for whom no one else exists except as an object for your actions?

    “Demented and revolting” might be better than “pathetic and disgusting,” but either applies.

    Seek psychological help. Seriously. Before you talk yourself into a “youthful indiscretion” and carve up some teenage fry cook you feel represents “the system.”

  56. Comment by B Moe on 2/23 @ 4:57 pm #

    There are those of us who still think Patty Hearst pulled a fast one getting out of her obvious complicity in the Symbionese Liberation Army’s string of robberies and killings.

    But, her 21-month sentence was commuted by Jimmah; she was pardoned by Cigar Boy. Thus is justice served, Democrat Style.

    How long has Eric Rudolph served? What would the reaction be if Bush commuted his sentence?

  57. Comment by Semanticleo on 2/23 @ 4:59 pm #

    “my position as an obamacan has always been that O is the lesser evil.”

    Nishi;

    Jeff’s empathy is entombed in his wish he had an Obama.

    Don’t dare suggest HIS lesser weevil is McCain.

  58. Comment by B Moe on 2/23 @ 5:00 pm #

    That would be an interesting study, if anyone has the time. Right wing domestic terror attacks/convictions/sentences compared to left wing.

  59. Comment by Karl on 2/23 @ 5:02 pm #

    Too bad nishi left. I was going to ask her to get in touch the surviving family members and tell them those murders are old.

  60. Comment by Karl on 2/23 @ 5:07 pm #

    And if she’s on strike until Jeff watches some movie, I am going to demand that she hold herself to it and that Jeff never watch that movie.

  61. Comment by Jeff G. on 2/23 @ 5:11 pm #

    Jeff’s empathy is entombed in his wish he had an Obama.

    This is news to Jeff, who is also curious what this has to do with his ethical positioning with respect to the Weather Underground.

    But Jeff is sometimes slow on the uptake, his being a failed academic and all.

  62. Comment by Rob Crawford on 2/23 @ 5:17 pm #

    islam is about justice, tru, bj.

    Which is why so many of its adherents consider it “holy” to shout “Allahu Akbar!” while emptying an AK into an occupied car seat.

  63. Comment by LiveFromFortLivingRoom on 2/23 @ 5:20 pm #

    Islam is about justice but christianity is about ignorance and oppression? Wow such idiocy should be given a word in the dictionary or a medal.

  64. Comment by Darleen on 2/23 @ 5:23 pm #

    Which is why so many of its adherents consider it “holy” to shout “Allahu Akbar!” while

    emptying an AK into an occupied car seat. OR
    sawing off an infidel’s head OR
    stoning to death a woman buried up to her shoulders, still properly veiled of course OR
    preventing young women from escaping a burning building if they aren’t properly tented OR
    plunging a knife into the chest of dog infidel on a public street for the crime of making a movie about the misogyny of Islam OR
    marking for death any infidel who writes, cartoons, speaks any criticism of Islam OR

    yadda yadda yadda

  65. Comment by LiveFromFortLivingRoom on 2/23 @ 5:28 pm #

    How about a little experiment ok? You walk down the street of Vatican city with a picture of an upside down cross on your shirt. Then you go to the streets of Meccah and you wear a shirt with a picture of Mohammed on it.

  66. Comment by Carin on 2/23 @ 5:33 pm #

    wow…..all that stuff is so…so….old.

    I know this comment has been beaten to death already, but I was working out …

    You know what else was really old? Some of those sexual assult accusations in the Catholic Church. Were not a few of those priests as old as dirt, and the child victims pushing middle age? Funny … I don’t remember the liberal side of the isle sniffing that the crimes were ancient history.

  67. Comment by Rob Crawford on 2/23 @ 5:34 pm #

    Then you go to the streets of Meccah and you wear a shirt with a picture of Mohammed on it.

    Or, wait, let’s have a Catholic walk through Mecca with a Mohammed t-shirt! Oh, wait. That’s right — non-Muslims aren’t even allowed in Mecca.

  68. Comment by RTO Trainer on 2/23 @ 5:54 pm #

    B Moe,

    I got a jump start on it, with the events listed and I just broke them out as Left and Right.

    All anyone would have to do is lookup the consequences to the perpetrators.

  69. Comment by Rusty on 2/23 @ 6:05 pm #

    #

    Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 3:31 pm #

    rusty i dont lie.
    :)

    You just did.

  70. Comment by RTO Trainer on 2/23 @ 6:44 pm #

    Of course there’s the HillBillary connections to FALN, too. So both Democratics running have their connections to terrorism.

  71. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 7:11 pm #

    et tu, Karl?
    okfine.
    1. i assume the perps have served their time..otherwise O and bilary are visitin them in jail….an theyd have little
    fundage to contribute. if they dont think they have done wrong, well….that is thot crime territory.

    2. the jihaadis are not muslims. Muhammed says, in the Qur’an, that one who kills an innocent, is as if he kills the whole world. those ppl are muslims in the exact same way that Charles Taylor is a christian.
    except….in this country we have a freakin industry devoted to ferreting out the jihaadi translation of the Qur’an..agreeing with them…corroborating their exegesis as it were.
    u know nothing about my religion.
    however, i have experienced urs from the inside.

    3. since u can’t make fun of porch monkeys and niggers and kikes and sheenies anymore, i guess its fine to make fun of my burkha and my g spot. knock urself out.

    4. rusty, where did i lie?
    dish some empirical data dude.

    5. i wanted jeffie to experience the movie/book to see if he gets the same….feel i did, is all.
    he once paid me the extreme compliment of saying i reminded him of himself, back in the day.

  72. Comment by Good Lt. on 2/23 @ 7:15 pm #

    For that progressive, “edgy” moron nishizonoshinji, I’ve got two words.

    TOOKIE. WILLIAMS.

    Wasn’t it the progressives, including Democrat race pimp Jesse Jackson, who tried to acquit this murderer who killed a man by shooting him point blank in the face with a shotgun? Multiple times?

    Oh, but he wrote a children’s book and said sorry.

    That makes it all better.

    F*cking moron.

  73. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 7:19 pm #

    im not defending tookie williams.
    what has that got to do with me?
    im an obamacan.
    that means im still a registered republican that is going to vote for O.
    how does that make me a supporter of either jesse or tookie?

  74. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 7:20 pm #

    im a cardcarrying member of the NRA too.
    :)

  75. Comment by JD on 2/23 @ 7:27 pm #

    Just imagine for a moment, a Republican meeting with a know domestic terrorist, as a right of political passage. If anyone ever wondered about how patently unserious of a candidate he is, this and his Captain Dan story should serve well to dispell that myth.

  76. Comment by JD on 2/23 @ 7:30 pm #

    nishi’s levels seem a bit out of whack today.

  77. Comment by Karl on 2/23 @ 7:34 pm #

    nishi broke her strike.

    liar.

  78. Comment by nishizonoshinji on 2/23 @ 7:37 pm #

    touche!

    alright.
    adieu Karl

  79. Comment by RTO Trainer on 2/23 @ 7:57 pm #

    1. i assume the perps have served their time..otherwise O and bilary are visitin them in jail….an theyd have little fundage to contribute. if they dont think they have done wrong, well….that is thot crime territory.

    Your’e asking about FALN? They are still in jail because they wouldn’t accet the terms of the clemncy they were offered. Doesn’t change that Clinton offered the clemency and Hillary supported it.

    2. the jihaadis are not muslims. Muhammed says, in the Qur’an, that one who kills an innocent, is as if he kills the whole world. those ppl are muslims in the exact same way that Charles Taylor is a christian.
    except….in this country we have a freakin industry devoted to ferreting out the jihaadi translation of the Qur’an..agreeing with them…corroborating their exegesis as it were.

    True. Also completely beside teh point. You bring this up to distract form your flailing argument.

    u know nothing about my religion.

    You know nothing about what we know about.

    3. since u can’t make fun of porch monkeys and niggers and kikes and sheenies anymore, i guess its fine to make fun of my burkha and my g spot. knock urself out.

    I begin to doubt that you are a muslim. You wear a burkha? Seriously? The charges of racism, again are simply your poor attempt to distract.

    4. rusty, where did i lie?
    dish some empirical data dude.

    You’ve said several times that you were not going to comment any more, that you had other thngs to do.

  80. Comment by Semanticleo on 2/23 @ 8:03 pm #

    “But Jeff is sometimes slow on the uptake, his being a failed academic and all.”

    Indeed. Or rather, he thinks all his visitors are slow on the uptake.

    Weathermen, indeed.

  81. Comment by carefulicanverifythat on 2/23 @ 8:10 pm #

    im a cardcarrying member of the NRA too.
    :)

    Care to provide your member ID number?

  82. Comment by RTO Trainer on 2/23 @ 8:11 pm #

    Weathermen, indeed.

    This really is going to be the new standard isn’t it?

    A new defining ideological point between Liberals and Conservatives. Liberals will minimize (Semanticleo, indeed), appologize (Nishi, but that was so long ago) and excuse (the Clintons and clemency and Obama and his friends) terrorists.

    Why not. Makes it easier to tell them apart.

  83. Comment by Semanticleo on 2/23 @ 8:14 pm #

    “Why not. Makes it easier to tell them apart.”

    Indeed.

    When asked the difference between idiots and genius, Einstein replied;

    “Genius has it’s limits”

    But that’s not a new standard, just new to you.

  84. Comment by RTO Trainer on 2/23 @ 8:20 pm #

    For sure there’s no limit on your capacity for nonsequiter, Cleo.

  85. Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 2/23 @ 8:27 pm #

    Muhammed killed innocents. Or rather had his followers/acolytes kill them for him. I guess the definition of “innocents” is up for debate.

  86. Comment by Jeff G. on 2/23 @ 8:29 pm #

    Or rather, he thinks all his visitors are slow on the uptake.

    To borrow from Stand By Me, “No, just you, Ace.”

  87. Comment by Semanticleo on 2/23 @ 8:37 pm #

    “To borrow from Stand By Me, “No, just you, Ace.””

    Sorry you have no Obama. but it’s not my fault McCain is the anointed one.

  88. Comment by Jeff G. on 2/23 @ 8:43 pm #

    Who said it was your fault? And why on earth would I want another Obama? For my money, McCain is too close to him in too many ways already.

    Now, if you’re talking about an empty suit with no real governing history that I can graft my hopes and dreams for an ideological Utopia on to — a slick tabula rasa upon which to project my desires, or a man in a mirrored suit reflecting back to me everything I want to see without committing to a single bit of it — I don’t want one of those, either.

    But if all you’re talking about is a candidate to get excited over, yeah, I wish I had one of those. But evidently my standards are a bit higher than yours. The cult of personality doesn’t particularly move me. I know how charisma works, and to what ends it has been put to political use by those devoid of a coherent plan and substantive ideas.

  89. Comment by Darleen on 2/23 @ 8:46 pm #

    Sorry you have no Obama

    are you channeling Louis Prima, cleo?

  90. Comment by Darleen on 2/23 @ 8:48 pm #

    if you’re talking about an empty suit with no real governing history that I can graft my hopes and dreams for an ideological Utopia on to — a slick tabula rosa upon which to project my desires, or a man in a mirrored suit reflecting back to me everything I want to see without committing to a single bit of it

    Ah, the Fungible Mr. Obama.

  91. Comment by Education Guy on 2/23 @ 9:01 pm #

    except….in this country we have a freakin industry devoted to ferreting out the jihaadi translation of the Qur’an..agreeing with them…corroborating their exegesis as it were.

    Right. You can tell this is true by how loudly the true Muslims are screaming at the fake ones to cut the shit out.

    Oh wait, the ones who are doing that, get nothing but contempt from the likes of you, while actual terrorists like the WU get a pass.

  92. Comment by McGehee on 2/23 @ 9:04 pm #

    a slick tabula rosa

    Let’s leave Miss Johnnie Edwards out of this, m’kay?

  93. Comment by Darleen on 2/23 @ 9:09 pm #

    Yes, we have no Obama
    We have a no Obama today
    We want can do and know how
    not doe eyes and bright smile
    with all sorts of wordplay but say
    We have an old fashioned war hero
    With charisma near zero But yes, we have no Obama
    We have no Obama today

    with apologies to Louis Prima

  94. Comment by Jeff G. on 2/23 @ 9:25 pm #

    Can we call a black man “fungible”? Or is that racist?

    I lost my manual again.

  95. Comment by Good Lt. on 2/23 @ 9:39 pm #

    Yup. It’s racist. And blasphemous.

    You’ve spoken ill of the Lord Your Obama.

    Now repent, or else.

  96. Comment by Rob Crawford on 2/23 @ 10:13 pm #

    Muhammed killed innocents. Or rather had his followers/acolytes kill them for him. I guess the definition of “innocents” is up for debate.

    Well, yeah. Much like “jihad is only defensive” — the definition of “defensive” is rather elastic.

    Let’s not forget the penalty for leaving Islam — death. Just what offense has been committed by someone who finds they no longer believe?

  97. Comment by Darleen on 2/23 @ 10:16 pm #

    Can we call a black man “fungible”?

    I thought we were talking about Obama?

  98. Comment by Sean M. on 2/23 @ 11:13 pm #

    Iowahawk has to get on this, if he hasn’t already.

  99. Comment by B Moe on 2/23 @ 11:17 pm #

    the jihaadis are not muslims. Muhammed says, in the Qur’an, that one who kills an innocent, is as if he kills the whole world. those ppl are muslims in the exact same way that Charles Taylor is a christian.
    except….in this country we have a freakin industry devoted to ferreting out the jihaadi translation of the Qur’an..agreeing with them…corroborating their exegesis as it were.
    u know nothing about my religion.

    nishi, who has been a Muslem for a whole year now, excommunicates millions of people who have been for generations. Just like that! What does the Quran say about pride and arrogance, nish?

  100. Comment by Merovign on 2/24 @ 2:25 am #

    Nishi has just appointed herself Caliph.

    What was I saying about solipsism earlier?

    I sure hope Nishi goes to Mecca and lets everyone know, that should take care of that.

  101. Comment by Sean M. on 2/24 @ 2:34 am #

    It’s really no wonder that this Nishi person isn’t bothered much by bloodthirsty killers. I mean, check out where the name comes from.

  102. Comment by Pablo on 2/24 @ 3:08 am #

    except….in this country we have a freakin industry devoted to ferreting out the jihaadi translation of the Qur’an.

    You got a problem with Abdullah Yusuf Ali, Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall, M. H. Shakir and Muhammad Asad? Do explain.

  103. Comment by Crimso on 2/24 @ 6:50 am #

    “Sorry you have no Obama”

    Don’t be sorry. Not as long as having no Obama also means having no Dohrn or Ayers.

  104. Comment by Challeron on 2/24 @ 7:00 am #

    Sean M, that explains much about the “multiple personalities” of our very own nitwit-nishi….

  105. Comment by Andrew on 2/25 @ 10:48 am #

    I thought porch monkeys were the same as niggers. My faith in Kevin Smith will be utterly shattered if not.

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