January 14, 2008
Sexism? Hey, it’s ok … [Darleen Click]

Ann Coulter’s father died. HuffPo Chris Kelly is delighted.

Think of her, then, as Ophelia with her violetless garlands, crossed with a real fucking hack.

Kelly makes the obligatory Left attack on Ann as a trannie:

I can see your balls.

Kelly’s “humor” includes labeling Ann’s father as a child-abusing, wife-hating, incestuous cross-dresser who is rightfully now in hell.

But hey, it’s not like Kelly really hates gays, trannies, cross dressers or women, you know!

Regardless of whether or not one likes Ann (I don’t.) Kelly’s schadenfreude demonstrates the usual personal is political Leftist mentality — We get to be as mean, sexist and racist as we like, it’s not like you wingers are authentic humans or anything.

Good lord, hopefully the writer’s strike will end soon so Kelly can go back to penning Maher’s junior high bully lines and he can stop obsessing about Ann’s balls.

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  2. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 10:44 am #

    come-on, Darling, you can’t think the Right is Pure in this regard…the amount of evil talk out of just FreeRepublic alone exclipses anything said on the Left about wingnuts.

    Let’s just see how much crap their will be about Obama and/or Hillary?

  3. Comment by Darleen on 1/14 @ 10:50 am #

    you can’t think the Right is Pure in this regard

    Who’d like to educate datadave on the type of fallacy he is engaged in?

  4. Comment by Sean M. on 1/14 @ 10:51 am #

    Um, dave, “let’s just see” some evil shit someone on the left side of the aisle just said about someone whose dad just died before we go thinking about hypothetical future remarks about Obama and Hillary from the Freepers, m’kay?

    Dumbass.

  5. Comment by Techie on 1/14 @ 10:54 am #

    Ah yes, HuffPo, where all those threads had to be locked regarding Dick Cheney and Tony Snow. Verily, the milk of human kindness flows forth from its pages.

  6. Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/14 @ 10:57 am #

    Who’d like to educate datadave on the type of fallacy he is engaged in?

    It’s tu quoque, right?

    Dave, as a mnemonic, you might want to think of it as “acting like a cock”. Because that’s what you’re doing.

  7. Comment by Merovign on 1/14 @ 11:04 am #

    One of the big differences between the left and right is, the right are at their most “vicious” to the left when the leftie in question does something mean or stupid.

    The left is at its most mean and vicious simply when it perceives the righty as weak – such as upon the occurrence of a personal tragedy. Or sometimes when the righty is perceived as “properly” belonging on the left, such as the vicious racist attacks on Dr. Rice and Mrs. Malkin.

    So, basically, the right judges you on what you do and say, and the left judges you on your status. It’s a grossly simplified analogy, but essentially holds up.

  8. Comment by Why Do I Read Comments by Idiots? on 1/14 @ 11:05 am #

    Did you go to public schools as a youth, datadave? If so, don’t admit it: they’ve got enough PR challenges as it is.

    Not only did “Darling” (oh, so cute, dave) not say the right is free of sin, she specifically expressed her dislike of Coulter. And Coulter’s most obnoxious screeds compare favorably to the Kelly’s puerile spew, complete with defamatory statements about a dead person.

    “Let’s just see how much crap their (sic) will be about Obama and/or Hillary?”

    Are you referring to what the Democrats are doing to one another right now?

  9. Comment by Techie on 1/14 @ 11:07 am #

    I don’t know. I think Clinton is trying really hard to tell me that Obama is a crack dealer from way back, but she can’t come out and say it.

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  11. Comment by Techie on 1/14 @ 11:12 am #

    Does HuffPo hate “pink men” enough? (???)

    Substitute “Black” for any word in that screed and watch sparks fly.

  12. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 11:14 am #

    I see dataDave has no balls with his drive-by insightful comment crap.

  13. Comment by I'm Just Saying on 1/14 @ 11:22 am #

    I went to Townhall to read Ann’s piece and it just seethes with sorrow about her father and derision and contempt for her enemies. Like so mnay righties, all the “fear of terrorism” is just a Trojan horse to continue in the “war against libruls”. As that war’s supreme commander, Ann manages to fill two pages ostensibly about her love for her father with disdainful jokes about Ted Kennedy, a hagiography to union busting, a crack about “baby killing”, and a wish her father would arrange to smite some liberals.

    Yet, it’s Chris Knight who is offensive? Is is hiding a hit piece behind the shield of the death of a loved one?

    Reminds me of one of those Palestinian funerals, which the mourners all use as an excuse to go kill a 19 year old IDF draftee. She has a ton of class, that one. She and Mr. Knight deserve each other.

  14. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 11:25 am #

    But, once again – it’s really our misinterpretation of what Kelly wrote. Here, let me allow commenter “LeoMarvin” to explain:

    Leo, I see where you’re coming from, but I’ve got to disagree. Fair-minded progressives have “played nice” with the bullies for far too long. The right wing bullies like Bill-O and mAnn view any modicum of conscience and compassion as weakness, which they mock relentlessly.
    Prediction: Normally after mAnn spews her venom, and gets rightfully criticized for it, she plays the “pobre de mi” victim card. He next column will be about how the mean and nasty left made fun of her father’s death. Of course, that’s a lie. As so many others have already said, they’re NOT making fun of his death or her “grief”, but rather of her shameless exploitation of the occasion for her to launch more of her poisoned barbs.

    Calling him an asshole, a crossdresser, and a cross between Holden Caufield and Hitler … none of those are making fun of the man at his death. How could you possibly think that? Get with it, NeoCons. Nuance, catch the feva!

  15. Comment by Techie on 1/14 @ 11:25 am #

    Look, I think that Ann Coulter is a one-trick-pony who has descended into schtick.

  16. Comment by Karl on 1/14 @ 11:30 am #

    Welcome HotAirHeads! Please feel free to take your shoes off and take a look around the place.

  17. Comment by Darleen on 1/14 @ 11:36 am #

    Techie

    Ann has always grated on my nerves. She really wastes what is undeniably a sharp mind and great intelligence in unseemly nastiness. I don’t buy her books for the same reason I don’t watch The View or read Ted Rall.

    Life’s too short.

    Kelly doesn’t attack Ann’s ideas, or just point out what he believes is over-the-top about her column … he decides to attack her authenticity as a woman and attack her dead father as corrupt/evil/icky. This from people who see Teh Racist!!!1n!! in the word “niggardly”.

  18. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 11:36 am #

    Like so mnay righties, all the “fear of terrorism” is just a Trojan horse to continue in the “war against libruls”.

    You know, that one never gets old.

    And, when I die, if someone fits an opportunity to throw in a Ted Kennedy joke, or take a swipe at certain Democrats, I’m ok with that. If you can’t see the difference between making a few political jokes during a eulogy, and dancing on someone’s grave than I don’t know what to say. Making jokes is what people do to deal with the pain.

  19. Comment by Education Guy on 1/14 @ 11:39 am #

    come-on, Darling, you can’t think the Right is Pure in this regard…the amount of evil talk out of just FreeRepublic alone exclipses anything said on the Left about wingnuts.

    Let’s just see how much crap their will be about Obama and/or Hillary?

    And just like that datadave gives an excuse to anyone of a particular political stripe to act however they wish. The good news is that, under this new paradigm, two wrongs do indeed make a right. I expect the world will be a much better place under this new enlightened rule.

    My heart goes out to Ann for the loss of her father.

  20. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 11:40 am #

    People’s parents die all the time. Usually the thing to do is to bring food, but lots of times paper goods and plastic cups are forgotten about, and if you really want to be helpful, be the guy who brings over a big Igloo cooler full of ice and keep it stocked until everything settles down again. Also, lots of times a couple bottles of wine is not inappropriate at all.

  21. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 11:41 am #

    My opinion of Ann is that she is very intelligent, and probably has forgotten more than I will ever know. She, for better or worse, has decided to be the conservative response to the attack-dogs of the left. I don’t think she invented mean-spiritedness (despite how the left crucifies her), she has merely joined the fray. I don’t defend her (well, today I am) when she says something off, but I have been known to cheer when she gets it right.

    And, lets not pretend that she is embraced by the right. She got fired from NR. A fact that the left ignores. Can the left say the same for it’s vitriolic?

  22. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 11:43 am #

    Yes … but happyfeet, after a few bottles of wine, the political talk should commence shortly afterward.

    It’s the way I would have wanted it.

  23. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 11:46 am #

    It’s just you have to have something to serve and it helps cause you have your glass of wine and then when they ask you if you would like another glass of wine that means you have probably done all you can visit-wise and you can go now. Maybe it’s a southern thing.

  24. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 11:48 am #

    Or a Lutheran thing, could be.

  25. Comment by SGT Ted on 1/14 @ 11:55 am #

    Reminds me of one of those Palestinian funerals, which the mourners all use as an excuse to go kill a 19 year old IDF draftee.

    Admitting that you can’t tell the difference between Islamic mob violence and a snark about Ted Kennedy doesn’t make you look very smart or nuanced.

  26. Comment by Dan Collins on 1/14 @ 11:55 am #

    People’s parents die all the time

    It’s easy to overuse that excuse.

  27. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 11:58 am #

    It’s just surprising is all that this Chris Kelly person isn’t more familiar with how this is supposed to sort of go, social-wise, given that it’s really not that uncommon.

  28. Comment by Techie on 1/14 @ 11:58 am #

    My issue with Ann is that she takes a great idea, and then feels compelled to crap on, handing anyone not already subscribed to the idea a big shiny bow to dismiss it.

    Ex. “I think that social dynamics have shifted voting patterns in the US over the last century” = perfectly reasonable analysis, which is then followed by “and thus, we should consider removing the Amendment giving women the vote” which has the effect of killing the whole deal.

    She does this with tax policy and foreign policy especially. You don’t know how many times the “kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity” chestnut comes up in conversations I have with some of my leftist leaning friends.

  29. Comment by Darleen on 1/14 @ 12:03 pm #

    Carin

    re your quote from Kelly’s commenters:

    As so many others have already said, they’re NOT making fun of his death or her “grief”, but rather of her shameless exploitation of the occasion for her to launch more of her poisoned barbs.

    Ann’s column is about 1,500 words… out of that she spends not more than a couple of dozen words “barb throwing” at Kennedy (and liberals).

    That translates into her eulogy as a cover for ad hom anti-left politicizing?

    Yeah, right.

  30. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 12:08 pm #

    jeesh,,,get a life. Coulter’s been advocating torture, murder, disfigurement, all sorts of evil towards her “straw” people: the Damned Liberals. for the very reason you beat up on some weak left leaning poster beating up on pooor old Annie. She could care less. I don’t think she’s hurting anymore than any other babyboomer going through the same thing…besides she’s got millions from her evil works of ballbusting platitudes about Evil Liberals this and that. But the fact that she encourages hate in general shouldn’t allow our Darling Darleen to get on some high horse of moral super self righteousness.

    Hey, I just write here to get conservatives to think a bit and for entertainment. We “LIBERALS” have put up with a lot more crap than Conservatives from the likes of Limbaugh and Coulter. We didn’t see Clinton (the pair) going after their detractors in the same way. Okay maybe their supporters..but Hilary and Bill are closet Republicans anyway ending welfare as we know it. Why is it okay for Conservatives to attack minorities (blacks, gays, women, liberals) and not okay for critics of conservatives to give back to conservatives the same treatment?

    I can’t forget Conservatives dancing on Senator Wellstone’s grave with glee. After Dick Cheney even threatened him personally only a week before Wellstone and family met a pre-election demise and when some people on the left detected a possible special opp…..we’ll never know will we? Even if wikipedia downplays the possibility of Wellstone meeting a planned end….and I like wikipedia…but the fact that Cheney angrily attacked Wellstone only a few days before his death still makes me wonder.

    Poor Annie, lost a parent. Get over it…Every “boomer” is going through it…but when poor people and liberals meet tragedy…there is always Glee on the part of the likes of Limbaugh and Coutler. She’s a hate-filled b****h as Robin Williams more comically notes often…while he supports the troops and detests the Chickenhawks that Coutler (and Bush) represent.

    Darleen, get over it.

  31. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 12:10 pm #

    IMHO, Ann makes absurd jokes simply to be absurd- about taking away women’s right to vote, for example. It’s really not too different from the jokes tossed about here and other places. She has a national audience, though, and therein lies the rub. People don’t get the joke (often willingly don’t get the joke), and ARE OUTRAGED.

    ‘Cause when I look at women’s voting patterns, that same joke gets told at my house.

  32. Comment by Techie on 1/14 @ 12:11 pm #

    Wait, REPUBLICANS politicized Wellstone’s funeral?

    LOL!

    Also, people who claim that Limbaugh “rages and hates” have obviously never listened to his show.

  33. Comment by Darleen on 1/14 @ 12:12 pm #

    datadave

    Hilary and Bill are closet Republicans

    You’re a parody, right?

  34. Comment by Techie on 1/14 @ 12:13 pm #

    Also, datadave is sad that Wikipedia won’t let him espouse his tenuous conspiracy theory…

    Must be those dastardly Republicans at work.

  35. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 12:14 pm #

    Also what’s good sometimes is to bring breakfasty stuff by. A good one is to get 3 or 4 dozen of these really good little smallish chicken breakfast sammiches from Chik-Fil-A and a couple cartons of oj. Also, kolaches if you live in a place where you can get those.

  36. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 12:14 pm #

    Hey, I just write here to get conservatives to think a bit and for entertainment.

    Your gonna have to try a bit harder. On both counts.

    We “LIBERALS” have put up with a lot more crap than Conservatives from the likes of Limbaugh and Coulter.

    Bahaha ha ha … that’s a good one. Because, liberals don’t have the majority of the Print media, Hollywood, most of tv … not to mention the influence liberals have on our children in schools. I know this might make your head explode, but EVEN Fauxnews has been rated as one of the most fair out there.

    I can’t forget Conservatives dancing on Senator Wellstone’s grave with glee.

    Well, you must have a better memory than me, because the only thing I recall was the political rally that was his funeral.

  37. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 12:15 pm #

    …the sausage, cheese, jalapeno kind more than the fruity ones but you can get those too it’s just that the jalapeno sausage ones are my favorite

  38. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 12:16 pm #

    I always heard frozen casseroles were the thing to bring the bereaved? Of course, don’t bring my hubby one, should something happen to me. He hates casseroles. Says it reminds him of his time in basic training.

  39. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 12:18 pm #

    . After Dick Cheney even threatened him personally only a week before Wellstone and family met a pre-election demise and when some people on the left detected a possible special opp…..we’ll never know will we? Even if wikipedia downplays the possibility of Wellstone meeting a planned end…

    snicker. What’s happened to the quality of trolls around this place?

  40. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 12:18 pm #

    Those are the best I think Carin cause then you can have an excuse to check back in when you get the dish back and see if there’s anything you can do, but that’s not really an option for me cause it involves cooking.

  41. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 12:19 pm #

    FIRE CAN’T MELT STEEL, CAN IT DATADAVE?!? FIRE CAN’T MELT STEEL.

    Ok, enough fun for me. I just can’t help myself.

  42. Comment by Jim Treacher on 1/14 @ 12:20 pm #

    I’m no Coulter fan either, but damn. I’d call for him to be fired, if anybody at HuffPo was getting paid.

  43. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 12:25 pm #

    My mom did teach me this cool thing where you take a casserole dish and ok what you do is you put in a pound of ground beef and then pour in a can of mushroom soup – she says use the good kind – and then a can of peas and kind of mix it and then you cover the whole thing with frozen tater tot thingers and then bake it I’m not sure how long but I think like 35-40 minutes at 350 or so. Call your mom if you try it cause she’ll know. I like this because it involves tots, but I don’t think I would bring it to someone for like a funeral cause I think it’s not even Southern Living cookbook-worthy just something easy enough your idiot kid can make it.

  44. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 12:27 pm #

    Oh also you throw in chopped onions. I forgot that part. Very important.

  45. Comment by jummy on 1/14 @ 12:28 pm #

    which is what it was: a couple of jokes in a eulogy.

    which stands in sharp contrast not only to dancing on someone’s grave, but also the frightening kohmeniist display observed at paul wellstone’s funeral.

    and i love this attempt at tu quoque they always try whenever they go too far for their own tastes. as if merely saying “well the oother guys do it to” somehow creates a reality in which the right has engaged in seething, irrational thuggery anything like what has become the standard amongst progressives. i’ve seen male progressives shove a 15 year old girl to the pavement for carrying an american flag at a “peace” rally.

    it’s gotten really weird to the point where now you have all of these democrats running around saying things like “don’t vote for the black guy because *republicans* are going to make a big deal of his race.”

  46. Comment by Techie on 1/14 @ 12:28 pm #

    #44

    Shepherds Pie’s retard brother?

  47. Comment by Grant on 1/14 @ 12:30 pm #

    Ah, the typical Liberal descent into passive aggressive victimization. Get a life, relax, can’t you take a joke, you’re way worse than we are, blah blah blah, we’re the true victims of you mean nasty conservatives. Their whining is worse than their vitriol (which is nothing more than a childish tantrum for the most part).

  48. Comment by Slartibartfast on 1/14 @ 12:31 pm #

    People’s parents die all the time

    Mine don’t.

  49. Comment by Education Guy on 1/14 @ 12:32 pm #

    It seems that there is no immorality that datadave is not willing to forgive, so long as it is done by those of the correct political stripe, or that it is done against someone of differing (read conservatives or republicans) political opinion. You should be proud of yourself datadave, your words are a beacon pointing out everything that is wrong with American politics today. You are a bigot and an immoral twit, and I hope you change your ways before you do actual harm.

  50. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 12:32 pm #

    Shepherds Pie’s retard trailer-park brother I think, but…

    TOTS!!! YAY!

  51. Comment by jdm on 1/14 @ 12:33 pm #

    Jeezus, happyfeet, that is the exact recipe a guy would use to make “hotdish” in Minnesota. Except nowadays, 1 lb of *any* pulverized meat will do nicely. And if you use egg noodles, you can replace those tater tots with those French Fried Onions.

  52. Comment by Kresh on 1/14 @ 12:34 pm #

    The left is only civil when it gets them political points. Otherwise, why be nice?

    Sad for Ms. Coulter, not surprised by this Kelly fellow. There’s a reason we have compassionate conservatism and the left has, er, um, hmm.

    Gimme a second. I’m sure I’ll remember the slogan for whatever it is they’re shoveling this week.

  53. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 12:37 pm #

    I love egg noodles. I didn’t know you could bake with them. Actually I have no idea how egg noodles get from the package to the way you can eat them. I thought a collander was involved and I just got my first one of those for making RTO’s soup. I’m gonna explore that.

  54. Comment by Techie on 1/14 @ 12:39 pm #

    “the cooking exploits of Happyfeet”

    I smell a series.

  55. Comment by RTO Trainer on 1/14 @ 12:39 pm #

    Maggie, make a note.

    Happyfeet is to cater my funeral.

  56. Comment by JD on 1/14 @ 12:42 pm #

    datadave is apparently impervious to facts, logic, or even common sense and good manners.

    Timmah too.

    Fuckheads, both of them.

  57. Comment by Bender Bending Rodriguez on 1/14 @ 12:44 pm #

    …the sausage, cheese, jalapeno kind more than the fruity ones but you can get those too it’s just that the jalapeno sausage ones are my favorite

    Food Network last week had a segment on kolaches that said they were pretty much a Texas thing, hf (which I never really thought about, but now that I do, I don’t recall having one outside the state). Prolly a Texas Lutheran thing — 86-year-old Mrs. Wachsmann at my dad’s church makes The Best every Sunday. Not sure how others might get their hands on ‘em.

    And thanks for killing my New Years diet resolution with kolache talk.

  58. Comment by jdm on 1/14 @ 12:46 pm #

    Of course, a colander is involved. And the egg noodles should be wet and warm and soft… ummm, I like cooking.

  59. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 12:49 pm #

    hey, I finally got around to actually reading the offending article: Darleen sure did twist the facts on that one. NO Where does Kelly dance with glee (unlike Limbaugh et al) about an opponent’s death (unlike Wellstone’s untimely end). Then I learn Coulter’s dad was a member of our own fascist guard..the FBI which politically is 99 percent Republican (who ironically were the ones deemed to prove Wellstone didn’t meet a planned ending..) Now with the FBI was fixated on finding LIBERAL terrorists such as a handfull of environmentalist Haydukes while ignoring real terrorists on 9/11, it all makes sense that daughter and father were so politically Rightwing that she can’t cry at her father’s funeral but instead used it as a political stage to lash out at people who after all are forced to pay for her father’s substantial pay and pension all the while he was an antiLiberal Politial policeman. If you knew the history of crazy crossdressing J.Edgar Hoover and his Fascist core of wingnut (comprized of not less than 25 percent Rightwing Mormons and 50 rightwing conservative Catholics…not a crossection of America btw)/… and if you hadn’t known that they made many innocent people in America miserable including Martin Luther King, Jr….well.

    Hey, I learned something. Coulter is really an Evil Bit#h. And daughter of a rightwing Political Policeman. Yeah, right. That low key description of Coulter politicizing her own father’s funeral, is a mild criticism of the likes of Limbaugh et al dancing on Wellstone’s grave.
    \\\

    Yes, I listen to Limbaugh occasionally. He said (quote)” Leave a few of them (Liberals) around just to show how silly they are…” obviously implying the Operation Condor method of dealing with Liberals: Elimate them physically. Limbaugh is to the American Right what Goebbels was to the Nazis: “An early and avid supporter of war, Goebbels did everything in his power to prepare the German people for a large scale military conflict.” Except Goebbels was educated unlike Limbaugh.

    love it when Huckabee said he loves Limbaugh. Even Huck has to bow down to the Prince of the Radio Waves.

  60. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 12:49 pm #

    In south Texas for some historical quirky reason there’s a lot of Czech and German people and I think they get the credit. I think you could make a killing doing them here in Los Angeles. What they do instead is empanadas, which are ok but kind of messier and the thing about kolaches is that they last all day and are just as good cold. I so have to get back there more.

  61. Comment by JD on 1/14 @ 12:49 pm #

    Now that I have to go into the office on a regular basis, I stop at The Kolache Factory a few times a week. This whole office thing is going to make me fat.

  62. Comment by Bender Bending Rodriguez on 1/14 @ 12:50 pm #

    Oh, and datadave, you might pretend that you’re helping people think, but what you’re really doing is engaging in a nine-year-old’s tu quoque that helps you feel better for being politically aligned with a hateful douchebag. And thanks for all those links to big-blog Republicans slandering the lefty dead. Wait — there weren’t any? Ohhhhhhhh.

  63. Comment by jdm on 1/14 @ 12:52 pm #

    … and OK, just so I’m not accused of hijacking the topic at hand for my own personal amusement, I like Ms. Coulter’s rhetorical style because she draws out the all the datadaves for everyone’s personal amusement.

  64. Comment by Radish on 1/14 @ 12:52 pm #

    Texas thing? I thought kolaches were Polish.

    You can find them anywhere in Iowa. Used to have them in the school lunch; the apricot were good but the prunes had to be removed before eating.

  65. Comment by Bender Bending Rodriguez on 1/14 @ 12:55 pm #

    Shepherds Pie’s retard brother?

    To be the pedantic cooking guy, it’s actually cottage pie’s retard brother. Shepherd’s pie is lamb, cottage pie is beef. So it could be shepherds pie’s retarded cousin at best.

  66. Comment by Darleen on 1/14 @ 12:55 pm #

    happyfeet

    If you can cook the egg noodles, brown ground beef, saute onion and celery and open cans, one of our old family faves (good for a crowd)

    1 lb ground beef, 1 bag of egg noodles cooked, one onion chopped and sauted with 1 cup chopped celery, one can each corn, black olives (pitted), green olives (pitted), mushroom soup, small can tomatoe paste, large can stewed tomatoes — combine in large baking pan, top with 1 pound grated sharp cheddar cheese … bake in medium oven (350) 20-30 minutes until hot and cheese just starts to brown.

  67. Comment by JD on 1/14 @ 12:55 pm #

    datadave – Evidence that Limbaugh danced with glee at Wellstone’s funeral? Asserting it does not make it so. I believe that you confuse the political rally / funderaiser / wake with people pointing out that again, the Dems act inappropriate. For someone who fanices himself “data….”, actual data seems to have no effect on you.

    You really are a fucking imbecile. Get back on your meds.

  68. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 12:57 pm #

    Wow, DataDave. There was a whole lotta crazy there. Perhaps you might want to rethink your moniker?

    ” Except Goebbels was educated unlike Limbaugh.

    Liberals : the party of the common people. Except, of course, if you disagree with them, and then it’s classism all the way.

  69. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 12:57 pm #

    Oh. I haven’t heard of Kolache Factory. They’re not here yet but it sounds like they’re aggressively franchising. And they have my favorites. That’s pretty exciting, and someone’s gonna bank when they get here.

  70. Comment by Darleen on 1/14 @ 12:57 pm #

    I find datadave’s admonishment to me to “get over it” amusing. I don’t believe he’s posted the same thing to Kelly.

  71. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 12:58 pm #

    Hey! They ship – I could totally do that for clients.

  72. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 1:00 pm #

    I’m printing that Darlene – I will try when I get back from NY and I can get off my soup diet.

  73. Comment by Darleen on 1/14 @ 1:01 pm #

    I learn Coulter’s dad was a member of our own fascist guard..the FBI

    Wow…after his ‘Chickhawk’ meme, too.

    But heck, don’t question DoubleD’s patriotism.

  74. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 1:09 pm #

    JD…did you read the “offending:” article. He makes no point of feeling happy about senior Coulter’s natural passing instead points out how She make a political stage of it. How’s is it okay for Limbaugh to do the same with Wellstone’s funeral where as a whole family died making it a relief for Dick Cheney et al to remove a tie-breaking vote. Indeed, Wellstone was about politics…but somehow an agent of the Law is also using his badge and (daughter) to use the law as a political weapon even in his casket. His daughter seems to be like him as was JGordon Liddy who also did his damnedist to destroy liberal democracy.

    the only dickheads I see are you and Darleen making political hay out of another dickhead dying having a dickhead daughter making a political mockery of the funeral. The Wellstone family (what little was left) never made a political scene and unfortunately a friend of the family did but considering the meaning of Paul Wellstone’s life….it was understandable. But what gives Anne and Darleen the right to badger the Left when no one on the Left even cared about Ann’s father. I didn’t know he was a FBI agent. Now I know. Thanks. Just makes me want to throw up knowing how corrupt the FBI is in furnishing such a monster as Coulter to the world. We just didn’t care as we have enough to deal with a faltering economy and environment due to the excesses of Conservatism. Our falling dollar and high oil prices care of Bush/Cheney et al.

    I don’t expect you’ll be crying about Hillary’s family tragedies any more than Wellstone’s. Or anyone except your ordained saintly ones: Coulter, O’Reilly, Goldberg, Limbaugh, Reagan, Cheney. and maybe a few others. But no “Liberals”. Instead we’ll hear how Ugly Chelsea is, on and on and on…is her mother is annointed which at the present tense seems likely.

    heres to your entertainment. cry me a river over HerCoutler’s passing. Somehow it’s only another excuse to push for Operation Elimination of “Liberals”.

  75. Comment by Bender Bending Rodriguez on 1/14 @ 1:12 pm #

    How’s is it okay for Limbaugh to do the same with Wellstone’s funeral where as a whole family died making it a relief for Dick Cheney et al to remove a tie-breaking vote…I didn’t know he was a FBI agent. Now I know. Thanks. Just makes me want to throw up knowing how corrupt the FBI is in furnishing such a monster as Coulter to the world.

    This is datadave trying to sound less crazy? Wow.

  76. Comment by Education Guy on 1/14 @ 1:13 pm #

    datadave is a Nazi, and if you are not like him then you are Jew and off to the camp for you. I would wish datadave actual harm, but then I would be like him.

    I have come to realize that Ann is mostly about what is good for Ann, but during my “conversion process” it was her that most effectively showed me that all the received truths of the left are not necessarily true. For that I can never hate her.

  77. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 1:19 pm #

    Note to Operation Elimination of LIberals Operatives(stop) Find DATADAVE NOW (stop) He is too close to discovering our plans(stop)

    Someone isn’t using the tinfoil protocol during communications.

  78. Comment by Techie on 1/14 @ 1:21 pm #

    Next, data(sic)dave will go off on the pernicious Republican plot to fluoridate his water, corrupting his precious bodily fluids.

  79. Comment by McGehee on 1/14 @ 1:22 pm #

    How’s is it okay for Limbaugh to do the same with Wellstone’s funeral

    There must be some wild-eyed netroot “Limbaugh” we’ve never heard of, if there’s anything to this from dogmadave. Because the making Wellstone’s death political, that was done by Minnesota Democrats concerned about…

    a relief for Dick Cheney et al to remove a tie-breaking vote

    Seriously, I’d be surprised if dogmadave doesn’t still believe Cheney personally crashed Wellstone’s plane, parachuting to safety at the last second.

  80. Comment by Bender Bending Rodriguez on 1/14 @ 1:23 pm #

    I don’t expect you’ll be crying about Hillary’s family tragedies any more than Wellstone’s.

    Upon Hillary’s next family tragedy, feel free to hold your breath until a big-blog conservative tells her that she has men’s genitals and calls her beloved family member a child-abusing, cross-dressing “asshole” who is burning in hell.

    When you feel like you just can’t hold your breath any longer, fight through it and keep going for another couple of years. Please.

  81. Comment by jdm on 1/14 @ 1:28 pm #


    [that] Cheney personally crashed Wellstone’s plane, parachuting to safety at the last second.

    Geez, man, quit making stuff up. Cheney did with ultra-high frequency radio waves.

  82. Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 1/14 @ 1:28 pm #

    Does AnecdotalDave have any health insurance yet? Is this the problem? Should this cat be medicated?

  83. Comment by jdm on 1/14 @ 1:28 pm #

    And, yes, I need some one to close my italics

  84. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 1:30 pm #

    Now, getting ‘educated’ means hard work…that’s not ‘classist’ but just acknowledging Limbaugh doesn’t work too hard. His daddy bought him a radio station to practice on btw.

    I reread the article…..will admit the ending about ‘being too hot’ (in hell) might have been a little crude and rude (SireCoulter in hell with Ronnie and whomever). Kelly shouldn’t have wrote it…but obviously not believing in Hell…he didn’t mean real harm to anyone. Just interesting that Coulter is a daughter of a political policeman. The dressing like a woman..thing was a little crass too…but that was in reference to JEdger..which Republicans in their fixation of Sainting the Right put JEdger’s name on a huge building in Washington DC. how they get away with that but attack Larry Craig..I don’t get it.

    fye

  85. Comment by JD on 1/14 @ 1:30 pm #

    datadave your inability to read that and find it unobjectionable speaks to a complete lack of moral center on your behalf. Period. If people like you and timmah read that, and do not inherently understand what is wrong about it, then a week old road kill cat has more functioning morals than yourself. Combine that with your paranoia and being a horrific historian, and it makes for one truly ojectionable troll. Watch out for the black helicopters. I am off to invest in tin foil, as there is clearly going to be a run on it.

  86. Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/14 @ 1:32 pm #

    Sad for Ms. Coulter, not surprised by this Kelly fellow. There’s a reason we have compassionate conservatism and the left has, er, um, hmm.

    Gimme a second. I’m sure I’ll remember the slogan for whatever it is they’re shoveling this week.

    “Progressivism”. Which, reading the history of the “progressive” movement, is more chilling than they can imagine.

    (Psst — “datadave” has to be a sock puppet of one of the regulars. The inability to cite evidence, the broad brush, the bigotry… no way someone could really think that way!)

  87. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 1:33 pm #

    u want to buy my health insurance? how much you wanna spend?
    I’ll have to play Go for awhile to calm my nerves .

    u’re just a ball of yarns to play with and I am the kitty.

    wow, Darleen and Michelle M. reads the Huffington Post. I don’t even have time for that one.

  88. Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/14 @ 1:34 pm #

    The dressing like a woman..thing was a little crass too…but that was in reference to JEdger

    Ah, the left’s reverence for “reality” and “facts”! Hint — a rumor cooked up by a political enemy is not proof…

    Wait. Never mind. I just remembered I’m talking to someone who thinks Wellstone’s plane was shot down.

  89. Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/14 @ 1:36 pm #

    u’re just a ball of yarns to play with and I am the kitty.

    Uh-huh. Sure.

    Nutcase.

  90. Comment by BJTexs on 1/14 @ 1:43 pm #

    It would appear that sourcing wild assed conspiracies and lame assed accusations is not the strong suit of dataless-dave.

    Linky – Linky?

  91. Comment by Slartibartfast on 1/14 @ 1:44 pm #

    I don’t even have time for that one.

    Yet, you have time to come scold others that have read it. Curious.

  92. Comment by Education Guy on 1/14 @ 1:44 pm #

    It is fascintating to watch certain individuals reveal their inner thinking the way datadave does here.

    Now, getting ‘educated’ means hard work…that’s not ‘classist’ but just acknowledging Limbaugh doesn’t work too hard. His daddy bought him a radio station to practice on btw.

    Limbaugh has built a huge audience in radio at a time when radio is not anywhere near as popular as tv, which is somehow proof that he doesn’t work too hard. If that logic doesn’t sway you, then the fact that his father had money should. But don’t take those statements as either bigotry or classism or outright self-delusion, because its directed at an acceptable target.

    I reread the article…..will admit the ending about ‘being too hot’ (in hell) might have been a little crude and rude (SireCoulter in hell with Ronnie and whomever). Kelly shouldn’t have wrote it…but obviously not believing in Hell…he didn’t mean real harm to anyone.

    It could have been rude, but since the author probably doesn’t believe in that religous hocus-pocus anyway, he is clearly “one of us” and is therefore to be forgiven his rudeness.

    Just interesting that Coulter is a daughter of a political policeman. The dressing like a woman..thing was a little crass too…but that was in reference to JEdger..which Republicans in their fixation of Sainting the Right put JEdger’s name on a huge building in Washington DC.

    The FBI, being interested in law and order, is clearly a right-wing institution designed to keep down the peace loving left. Since they are to be obviously loathed by the taint of right-wingness, and since Ann’s father worked for them, well, you do the math.

    It’s sad to go through life without doing any actual critical thought, and I would have to guess that in datadaves actual life, this hurts him in ways he is not even aware of.

  93. Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 1/14 @ 1:49 pm #

    No, ya little scamp. That’s up to you. It’s called “responsibility”. Of course, you’re the same lunatic who started posting without ever reading the refrenced article and getting your panties in a bunch. I’m sure you just need the right meds. You might even be a decent human being. As far as you being the kitty? Yes, I am sure you’re a really big pussy. That might be the only “sane” thing you’ve vomited up, yet.

  94. Comment by Mikey NTH on 1/14 @ 1:49 pm #

    Okay – which one of our regulars wrote #59? That cannot be for real. Same with #74.
    Dan, is that you?

  95. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 1:49 pm #

    Watch out for the black helicopters.

    hmm, got your ‘history’ mixed up, JD. That’s a RightWing conspiracy theory, not the Left. The black helicopters are mythical UN helicopter coming from Canada perhaps to take over Amerika for the World Gober’net. We got enough real conspiracies to worry about like Operation Condor for example which killed hundreds of thousands of Latin Americans at our govt’s behest with ample support from the FBI and CIA in helping identify possible “leftists” for elimination by US sponsored militaries in Columbia, Central America, Brazil, Argentina, Chile…now that may have been decades ago but the survivors of that mayheim haven’t forgiven the US of that which is another reason Latin Americans are turning from the likes of Cheney/GWBush et al.

    Kelly’s article was just an understandable reaction to the Reactionaries in Power who want to go back to Torture as an instrument of punishment and Coulter’s over-the-top eliminationist rhetoric. Just replace the word “Liberal” with “Jew” in her writing and you’ll see she just another Goebbles

    sorry for mispellings etc. but the right needs to moderate it’s ways. This is a fine site of discussion from the Right side of things …few others allow critics of any other persausion to comment. There were some critics on Kelly’s comment pages as noted. I haven’t a chance to ever visit there before. I read oppposing viewpoints and even the National Review but no one is allowed to post there as for as I can tell.

  96. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 1:53 pm #

    I told ya’ll last week I thought it was Jeff G fucking with us.

  97. Comment by maggie katzen on 1/14 @ 1:54 pm #

    Maggie, make a note.

    Happyfeet is to cater my funeral.

    noted. happyfeet, mark your calendar. ha!

    I’ll probably die first since I sorta forgot RTO’s birthday yesterday. it’s what he gets for not being at home.

  98. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 1:57 pm #

    but the right needs to moderate it’s ways. This is a fine site of discussion from the Right side of things …

    I know I’m gonna hate myself for asking … but how do we need to moderate our ways? I mean, of course, outside of executing Democratic politicians and plotting for the elimination of liberals.

  99. Comment by BJTexs on 1/14 @ 1:59 pm #

    dataless-dave:

    Linky-linky, don’t be a empty dinky!

  100. Comment by Education Guy on 1/14 @ 2:00 pm #

    Kelly’s article was just an understandable reaction to the Reactionaries in Power who want to go back to Torture as an instrument of punishment and Coulter’s over-the-top eliminationist rhetoric.

    No, what it was is an example of one of the basest of human instincts, the desire to kick an enemy when they are down. Everything else is just the window dressing you sell yourself in order to not feel bad about your inhumanity.

    The only things that happened here is a well known woman’s father died, and a political hack used it as an opportunity to bash her. You are not on the side of goodness on this one.

  101. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 2:04 pm #

    OI…u guys get all puckered up being that you never think outside the box. That is by definition “conservative”. I rarely get all so testy at another poster to call him or her ‘names’ except for those of you who started out calling me names. Is that the Right Way? Seems everytime someone stretches the rather limited boundries of your thought..you gotta call him names. I say “idiot” etc…only in response. As it your way of talking…not a “liberal” way. On hindsite, Kelly never calls Coulter a ‘b! or whatever but it’s okay here to label Liberals Fascist,Pigs whatever. It is the internet though and what goes around comes around. Again Freeprs exhibit A. Not that I go there anymore since their scorched earth policy of only letting hardcore rightwingers post there.

    Here, if not for me and few other rarely appearing non Conservatives (although I am conservative about the environment for example) you’d never get out of your echo chamber.

  102. Comment by McGehee on 1/14 @ 2:06 pm #

    Cheney did with ultra-high frequency radio waves.

    No, he did it with his mind!

    And his package, of course.

  103. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 2:07 pm #

    The only things that happened here is a well known woman’s father died, and a political hack used it as an opportunity to bash her. You are not on the side of goodness on this one.

    get the facts straight She made the funeral into a Political Stage, not Kelly. He just responded to her remarks.

  104. Comment by JD on 1/14 @ 2:07 pm #

    but the right needs to moderate it’s ways.

    The irony of your stating this in this particular thread is completely lost on you. No surprise, but it is still jaw dropping in its stupidity.

  105. Comment by McGehee on 1/14 @ 2:07 pm #

    those of you who started out calling me names.

    We just think you need a name that’s more accurate, dogmadave. Truth in advertising, you know.

  106. Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/14 @ 2:08 pm #

    “I can’t forget Conservatives dancing on Senator Wellstone’s grave with glee. After Dick Cheney even threatened him personally only a week before Wellstone and family met a pre-election demise and when some people on the left detected a possible special opp…..we’ll never know will we?”

    Stoner or insane?

    You decide.

  107. Comment by BJTexs on 1/14 @ 2:13 pm #

    LINKY! LINKY! WHERE FOR ART THOU LINKY, DATALESS DAVE?

    A blog turns it’s lonely eyes to you. Woo, woo, woo.

  108. Comment by BJTexs on 1/14 @ 2:14 pm #

    Dataless dave does not constitute calling you a Name.

    It’s merely a description. LINKY!!

  109. Comment by JD on 1/14 @ 2:19 pm #

    Here, if not for me and few other rarely appearing non Conservatives (although I am conservative about the environment for example) you’d never get out of your echo chamber.

    Glib, datelessdave, you are glib. And an idiot. I would venture to say that the conservative echo chamber of which you speak is rarely in existence around here. We all get along, and share in our joy at mocking morons like you, but rarely speak with one voice in re. policy, and especially politicians. But, don’t let facts get in your merry little way, you sad little gerbil hunter.

  110. Comment by Education Guy on 1/14 @ 2:20 pm #

    get the facts straight She made the funeral into a Political Stage, not Kelly. He just responded to her remarks.

    She talked about the death of her father, and what her father meant to her. It is you and Kelly who have made it political, and whats more, cruel. But then again, you seem to believe that there were loads of Republicans at Wellstone’s funeral who used the opportunity to bash the man, so your sanity is already in question. In case you were unaware, it was Democrats who used the funeral as if it were a political rally, and did, in fact, bash Republicans at it.

  111. Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/14 @ 2:22 pm #

    My goodness, datadave, where did you perfect your fascist skillz?

  112. Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/14 @ 2:23 pm #

    oh, and datadave, why are you defending a murderer like Edward “The Swimmer” Kennedy?

  113. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 2:23 pm #

    DataDave, to live in an echo-chamber, I’d have to throw away my TV, never go to the movies, and not ready my local paper. In addition, I’d have to avoid several family members. We here at PW welcome the opportunity for rational discourse of opposing views.

    We so rarely get it.

  114. Comment by JD on 1/14 @ 2:25 pm #

    I will be happy to start calling him names. His lack of morals, and basic human decency demands no less.

  115. Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/14 @ 2:25 pm #

    Oh, and datadave, why would we of the Right give a flying fuck about a small bore reactionary like Paul Wellstone?

  116. Comment by steve on 1/14 @ 2:26 pm #

    More two wrongs make a right. Super.

  117. Comment by BJTexs on 1/14 @ 2:26 pm #

    Hey, JD! GIVE ME MY DATALESS DAVE DESIGNATION BACK!

    Where are all the linkies? Karl, go teach dataless dave about linkies!

    I wonder if dataless dave is in simon li’s guild…

  118. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 2:27 pm #

    jeesh, there are all sorts of methods to bring down an airplane. micro timing devices, focused wave dynamics (sound, light waves) etc. Or even inside with easily blamed dead pilots to hang the blame on (as per the wiki article) link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wellstone#Aftermath

    mostly it debunks any conspiracy to kill Wellstone and I lean that way….except for Bush/Cheney’s overthrow of Haitian elected President’s govt…which matchs the ‘eliminationist’ attitudes of the right. I tend to think Kennedy was killed by one man too…but then the fact that Cheney threatened Wellstone days before his death and that the FBI totally blocked off any investigation of the ground where the plane crashed and that the pilots were conveniently blamed makes me still wonder. And Wellstone’s vote was critical at the time. Is Wikipedia always Right? I bet you don’t think so.

    now who would of known that Ed Koch, US Rep and NYC mayor was a target of Operation Condor? just found out: http://www.foia.cia.gov/browse_docs.asp?doc_no=0001150297&no_pages=0003&showPage=0001

    In mid-1976, he was threatened with murder by Uruguayan secret police. He would learn about those threats only after Orlando Letelier’s carbombing in Washington D.C., September 1976, by Michael Townley, an American agent for DINA, the Chilean secret police, working for Operation Condor. :”Wikipedia

  119. Comment by MikeD on 1/14 @ 2:28 pm #

    Someone, somewhere forgot to lock the door to datadave’s ward. Now they’ll have to go get the net.

  120. Comment by stace on 1/14 @ 2:29 pm #

    # 64 Radish. There are lots of Poles in Texas, but there’s even more Bohemians, and kolaches are Bohemian (Czech). But Germans have them both beat. Germans used to outnumber Mexicans around here.

  121. Comment by maggie katzen on 1/14 @ 2:32 pm #

    Cheney threatened Wellstone days before his death

    Will no one rid me of this turbulent Senator?

  122. Comment by Techie on 1/14 @ 2:32 pm #

    data(sic)dave seems to forget that before Limbaugh (with whom he has a strange obsession with), AM was a dying format. It seems strange that a father trying to “buy” his son a place would have picked syndicated AM as the sure-fire investment opportunity of a lifetime.

  123. Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 1/14 @ 2:32 pm #

    AnecdotalDave was a perfectly apt play on your moniker from your “I don’t have any health insurance” posting days. You know when you kept on bringing up personal stories as opposed to the “data” that is part of your online PW moniker.

    “Here, if not for me and few other rarely appearing non Conservatives (although I am conservative about the environment for example) you’d never get out of your echo chamber.”

    Don’t presume you know anything, AnecdotalDave, about anything. You’re a conspiratorial lunatic. That is ALL you have ever offered up. I know REAL progressives Dave. This place is my respite from them. You are entertaining. Just NOT in the way you hope.

  124. Comment by maggie katzen on 1/14 @ 2:32 pm #

    that’s how that played out in my mind anyway

  125. Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/14 @ 2:33 pm #

    Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 2:27 pm #

    Answer the question:

    Oh, and datadave, why would we of the Right give a flying fuck about a small bore reactionary like Paul Wellstone?

  126. Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/14 @ 2:34 pm #

    Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 2:27 pm #

    LIHOP or MIHOP?

  127. Comment by Pablo on 1/14 @ 2:35 pm #

    We really need some better trolls around here. I asked Santa for just one cogent troll, and what did we get? Nothing.

    That fucker.

  128. Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/14 @ 2:38 pm #

    Comment by Pablo on 1/14 @ 2:35 pm #

    We ‘B Trolls is have an after-holiday sale.

  129. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 2:38 pm #

    me thinks the range of discussion is limited to the Republican side of things. Not even Ron Paul goes unscathed here abouts.. Right? And he’s a Republican candidate. no?

    you are a bunch of turkeys at a turkey shoot. Now tell me some of these innovative ideas you have here.. ONE new one.

    All Government is Bad. Except Republican ones.

    All Liberals are Fascists. At least a few of you don’t believe that.

    Abortion is bad. Few if any here disagree with that premise. (despite it’s causing a lowering of crime rate according to new economic thinking…and borne out by statistics…and reason: unwanted children tend to be more likely criminals)

    Surprise me, oh Echo Chamber. I hear the NameEchos a coming. Loopy, loopy, lu.
    perhaps it’s a closed loop I am hearing. like in Brian Eno or John Cage.

  130. Comment by JHoward on 1/14 @ 2:41 pm #

    So dave, what’s evil about conservatism? Really. Hold forth, Einstein.

  131. Comment by Pablo on 1/14 @ 2:43 pm #

    (despite it’s causing a lowering of crime rate according to new economic thinking…and borne out by statistics…and reason: unwanted children tend to be more likely criminals)

    Especially the black ones, right dave? So, let’s just kill ‘em and save ourselves the trouble, eh? Yep, that’s progressive alright.

  132. Comment by JD on 1/14 @ 2:44 pm #

    BJ – Go look again. I said dateless, suspecting that the dunderhead does not have much positive contact with the opposite sex, or the same sex. That closed loop you are hearing are the cacophony of voices screaming at you inside your crazed little melon.

  133. Comment by JD on 1/14 @ 2:45 pm #

    Pablo – He can’t be racist because he is a progg and he cares more than you …

  134. Comment by Education Guy on 1/14 @ 2:45 pm #

    Especially the black ones, right dave? So, let’s just kill ‘em and save ourselves the trouble, eh? Yep, that’s progressive alright.

    I said he was a Nazi, and it really didn’t take long for him to show us that I was right.

  135. Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/14 @ 2:48 pm #

    Notice dataless refuses to answer the question.

  136. Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/14 @ 2:49 pm #

    dataless, you should like Ron Paul.

    He’s a loon magnet.

  137. Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/14 @ 2:51 pm #

    All Liberals are Fascists. At least a few of you don’t believe that.

    No one believes that. But, again, it’s easier for you to argue against the phantoms of your paranoia than against real people.

  138. Comment by JD on 1/14 @ 2:51 pm #

    N.O’Brain – You are not transmitting the question in the proper format. Strip naked, put pieces of duct tape on your chest and arms, a homemade antenna in one hand and tinfoil in the other, and stand on top of your home. That way, you guys can communicate.

  139. Comment by mojo on 1/14 @ 2:53 pm #

    Always a classy outfit.

  140. Comment by maggie katzen on 1/14 @ 2:53 pm #

    dance! dance! for data(less)dave, monkeys!

    yeah carin, i’m coming around to the “it’s Jeff” opinion.

  141. Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/14 @ 2:56 pm #

    Comment by JD on 1/14 @ 2:51 pm #

    Hey, HE’S the loon, not me.

  142. Comment by BJTexs on 1/14 @ 2:59 pm #

    dataless dave misses the irony even though it falls on him like a Baby Grand:

    Now tell me some of these innovative ideas you have here.. ONE new one.

    He then proceeds to READ OUR MINDS!!!!! by telling us his own, fevered, delusional concepts of what constitutes a Republican.

    WE ARE THE HIVE!!

    Here’s a clue for you, dataless dave. This forum consists of many points of view from hardcore libertarians to classical liberals to Social Cons to evangelicals to a few lurking progressives. For you to suggest a hive mind when you won’t answer questions, won’t link sources for your spewings and paint a potrait of a group that only exists in your tortured mind makes you the narrow minded, clueless idealogue descended into screeming self parody.

    The fact you can’t see that is both amusing and sad.

  143. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 3:01 pm #

    ah jeezum. I just took a day off work to go on the internet to see some protein wisdom and I get hijacked like this…..

    So dave, what’s evil about conservatism? Really. Hold forth, Einstein.

    such an attitude of openness and welcome for debate. Answer: Just about everything going wrong now, Dude. Don’t be Dumb.

    don’t blame me, I voted for McGovern.

    it’s been going down since Nixon and his WaterGate boys gave us Dick Cheney and (Rumsfield). how about buying some insurance?

    can conservatives buy insurance for protection from the shit that conservative leaders have given us?…like stop all scientific endeavors into global warming solutions, poverty prevention, health care economizing, Republicans and Conservatives (same thing, right?) are against Science with govt. funding while giving people like Blackwater billions to threaten and harrass people like those in the 9 ward of New Orleans. Still living in those moldy trailers that some Republican contractor made millions off of.

    Like Bush said, over 200 billion was spent on helping Katrina victims…and only a small amount of that did get past the many Republican contractors like Blackwater that sucked that money pipeline dry.

    And Iraq has already passed Vietnam in costs and now rivals even WW2 in absolute dollars. Now, isn’t it obvious why the dollar is sinking like a stone? Forget the rather limited body count…look at the loot that’s being looted by Republican contractors. I know Republicans who are living today off the money they took from the Vietnam war and they’ll be collecting for another 30 years (in their 50s now). Retirees from Bechtel, Brown and Root, etc. All for their fine work in Vietnam and indochina or Phillipines etc.. But modern workers no longer have pensions. or very rarely. That’s Republicanism at work.

    You don’t know how much wealthy Republicans have gotten off the US Govt. Through warmongering. It’s mind boggleing.

  144. Comment by Diana on 1/14 @ 3:02 pm #

    48: “Mine don’t.”

    Mine did. Well …. only once, really.

  145. Comment by JHoward on 1/14 @ 3:02 pm #

    Tell you what, dataless, I’ll start: I think it’s quite wrong — intellectually incorrect when practiced passively and morally wrong when practiced actively — for “progressivism” to increasingly install centralized government as it’s highest power. To call upon the State to right perceived social wrongs involving race, gender, class, economics, medicine, education, etc.

    I therefore find it wrong for “liberals” to conform increasing levels of human activity to the State’s whim. Witness these Socialist States of America. This is the problem facing us at this time. A fascism of sorts is indeed at the core of such “liberal” thinking. There is no question.

    Are the Pubbies any better? Not really but then they’re not conservatives.

    So. What’s evil about conservatism?

  146. Comment by BJTexs on 1/14 @ 3:03 pm #

    JD: My bad.

    Now how can I make the screeming stop? In my melon?

    Strip naked, put pieces of duct tape on your chest and arms, a homemade antenna in one hand and tinfoil in the other, and stand on top of your home. That way, you guys can communicate.

    Make sure the antenna is conical shaped so that those narrow band frequencies will be picked up. To avoid teh Echelon. :-)

  147. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 3:04 pm #

    hey, I didn’t say the black babies were any more criminal than the white ones…u said that one. hmmmm. didn’t even think of that. I believe abortion is even more frowned upon in the black community than in the white.

  148. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 3:06 pm #

    Katrina victims suck ass. Bored now.

  149. Comment by A. Pendragon on 1/14 @ 3:06 pm #

    Witheld? If you’re out there, dude, there’s this “datadave” character you have gotta chat with.

  150. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 3:06 pm #

    conservatism should be about conserving the environment..so why is it not for that?

  151. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 3:08 pm #

    just that your glorious leader keeps talking about the conservative response to Katrina and how he sent over 200 billion to help out. Where’d it go? Why do ‘conservatives’ refuse to answer that one? (maybe because their companies maybe got some of the mullah, eh?)

  152. Comment by Great Banana on 1/14 @ 3:09 pm #

    Datadave has to be a parody – his combination of ignorance and cliche is just too perfect not to be a fake leftist. I can’t imagine someone is that much of a parody of a leftist is real. However, if he is real, that is even funnier.

    I’ll give a quck little right versus left anecdote from where I live regarding which side has the more vicious, hostile, childish people. I don’t know anyone who puts a republican/conservative bumper sticker on their car anymore, b/c everyone who does so has their car vandalized in some way. I know many, many people who have democrate/leftist stickers on their cars, which never get vandalized. Now, this is a small sampling (probably about 30 cars in each catagory), but I find it instructive.

    the left is never wrong though. they are always the victims that are just being too nice and being bullied by the right. When they do say or do something horrible, it is b/c we (the right) pushed them into doing it. You see, they are never responsible for their actions. typical.

  153. Comment by Great Banana on 1/14 @ 3:11 pm #

    conservatism should be about conserving the environment..so why is it not for that?

    Most conservatives do believe in this. Just not in your pseudo-science global warming, anti-captalism anti-private property way.

  154. Comment by maggie katzen on 1/14 @ 3:14 pm #

    happyfeet recycles! as do I. we even have a compost bin.

  155. Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/14 @ 3:17 pm #

    conservatism should be about conserving the environment..so why is it not for that?

    It is. Just not by the statist policies the “environmental” movement push. We prefer science.

  156. Comment by maggie katzen on 1/14 @ 3:19 pm #

    We prefer science.(/blockquote>

    just by not funding it or anything (well, not through the government anyway). or when it comes to evolution. ha ha, you’re not a real conservative, Rob.

  157. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 3:19 pm #

    new ideas? eh?

    maybe giving 400 billion of tax money to the banking industry as Alan Greenspan insists is needed to shore up our economy. Wow. he’s a Keynesian now….. that’s NEW! I heard that somewhere. can it be true?

  158. Comment by maggie katzen on 1/14 @ 3:20 pm #

    right… right… I’m off to make cupcakes now.

  159. Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/14 @ 3:21 pm #

    And Iraq has already passed Vietnam in costs and now rivals even WW2 in absolute dollars.

    WTF are “absolute dollars”? Would that be dollars unadjusted for inflation?

  160. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 3:21 pm #

    have fun jokesters…got to go get my check.

  161. Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/14 @ 3:22 pm #

    You don’t know how much wealthy Republicans have gotten off the US Govt. Through warmongering. It’s mind boggleing.

    Again, no data, just assertions.

  162. Comment by Techie on 1/14 @ 3:23 pm #

    Dave sure likes the word “billions”. Gots a ring to it.

  163. Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/14 @ 3:26 pm #

    cluelessdave, since you’re spewing the limp old reactionary class warfare rhetoric about “rich Republicans”:

    In the US Senate, which party has more multimillionaires, the Democrats or the Republicans?

  164. Comment by N. O'Brain on 1/14 @ 3:28 pm #

    “#Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 3:21 pm #

    have fun jokesters…got to go get my check.”

    What, the welfare department doesn’t use the mail?

    What about direct deposit?

  165. Comment by JHoward on 1/14 @ 3:31 pm #

    dataless dave, how about this: I find no justification for (or the enumeration of) entrusting Washington DC with the cleanup after a natural disaster. I figure if nature kicks my ass, nature kicks my ass and having the State involved in managing the aftermath is another name for servitude of some type. Not doing it.

    You?

  166. Comment by Squid on 1/14 @ 3:31 pm #

    Wow. Just wow.

  167. Comment by Pablo on 1/14 @ 3:32 pm #

    hey, I didn’t say the black babies were any more criminal than the white ones…u said that one.

    Well, they have a 77% out of wedlock birth rate, and an inordinate number of crimes among their population, much of which can be attributed to the failure of the family: ie: unwanted kids.

    It’s your position that aborting them is a good thing, dave. Why run from it now?

  168. Comment by JHoward on 1/14 @ 3:35 pm #

    Pablo, much of that servitude can be traced to the Welfare State’s influence. Because of the compassionate liberalism.

  169. Comment by shockcorridor on 1/14 @ 3:36 pm #

    Lurker for awhile but felt the need to finally chime in. datadave is a sanctimonious asshole. He’s like that bumpersticker “If you aren’t completely appalled you haven’t been paying attention.” In other words, what is wrong with you people who don’t think the way I do. His “I come here for entertainment and to make you think” statement says all there is to know about this self-righteous holier-than-thou prick. This throwing up of the hands in frustration that his wisdom and insight isn’t greeted with the adoration toward a prophet he fashions himself as. Oh sure he comes by to be ‘entertained” like a superior being strolling through a zoo exhibit but why people why do you not accept datadave’s invitation to “think?” Sigh maybe someday people datadave will accept you less folk into the realm of the “thinkers.” Until then he will continue his heroic question to make you see the light and embrace his overarching wisdom and grace. You datadave, are a smug douchebag beyond compare.

  170. Comment by Pablo on 1/14 @ 3:37 pm #

    I believe abortion is even more frowned upon in the black community than in the white.

    You believe a lot of things that aren’t true, dave.

    Although black women constitute only 6% of the population, they comprise 36% of the abortion industry’s clientele. The leading abortion providers have chosen to exploit blacks by locating 94% of their abortuaries in urban neighborhoods with high black populations.

    This high rate of abortion has decimated the black family and destroyed black neighborhoods to the detriment of society at large.

    Linky.

    Sorry to disappoint guys, but this ain’t Jeff. If it were he’d be at least somewhat amusing. This one’s just a fucking moron.

  171. Comment by Pablo on 1/14 @ 3:39 pm #

    Pablo, much of that servitude can be traced to the Welfare State’s influence. Because of the compassionate liberalism.

    Damn right, JHoward. So now we should kill potential criminals in the womb, all progressive like. This train is heading to an ugly, ugly place.

  172. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 3:42 pm #

    Abortion is bad. Few if any here disagree with that premise.

    So … abortion is good?

    And, thanks Pablo for ruining my dream. I mean, wacky-Jeff G fucking with us vrs totally absent and missing Jeff … which would you prefer?

  173. Comment by Pablo on 1/14 @ 3:43 pm #

    I’d rather have him in the mix….but even fucking around this fool is beneath him. There’s no there there.

  174. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 3:46 pm #

    And, FTR, when I lived in Detroit I played a game every time the yellow pages came out counting the pages and pages (and full-page ads) of abortion clinics. It’s a thriving business.

    A conspiracy theorist might link the easy-availability of abortions in the black community to some sort of white-supremists, eugenics movement.

    If, of course, abortion weren’t held in such high esteem.

  175. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 3:48 pm #

    Of course, some do discuss this – but they are conservative. And, conservatives have no authentic “voice” in discussing racial issues. Even if they are black. Black versus the abortion lobby. HA! Tangled web indeed.

  176. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 3:52 pm #

    Huckabee for sure ardently doesn’t believe in abortion. The family photos speak volumes.

  177. Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/14 @ 4:00 pm #

    So now we should kill potential criminals in the womb, all progressive like.

    I do believe that was Margaret Sanger’s goal.

  178. Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/14 @ 4:03 pm #

    A conspiracy theorist might link the easy-availability of abortions in the black community to some sort of white-supremists, eugenics movement.

    You’re being sarcastic, right? Because it was the Progressive eugenics movement that demanded easy access to abortions in order to “improve” humanity.

    I imagine AnecdotalDave will froth like a cappuccino machine over that.

  179. Comment by JHoward on 1/14 @ 4:06 pm #

    Wow. Just wow.

    Not sure who or what that’s addressed to but I do have this observation: Isn’t it quite a commentary that just raising the question the designers of this country fought to the death to defend now induces shock?

    Whaddya mean, no cradle-to-gravism?! It’s my right!!!!111!! NeoTHUG! Conservative!!!!

  180. Comment by JD on 1/14 @ 4:07 pm #

    Folks – I tried to parody datadave before, and it is not possible. Even in the most random incoherent momemts, I could not approach that complete lack of lucidity and flat out asshattery.

  181. Comment by JD on 1/14 @ 4:09 pm #

    like stop all scientific endeavors into global warming solutions, poverty prevention, health care economizing, Republicans and Conservatives (same thing, right?) are against Science with govt. funding while giving people like Blackwater billions to threaten and harrass people like those in the 9 ward of New Orleans *************

    You just cannot parody this kind of shit. The fervent belief does not come through in the way that the true believers say it.

  182. Comment by Mike on 1/14 @ 4:48 pm #

    Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time, and annoys the pig.

  183. Comment by Techie on 1/14 @ 4:50 pm #

    We haven’t had a 100+ comment thread in a while.

  184. Comment by mishu on 1/14 @ 4:51 pm #

    datadave wants to economize medical care by rationing it. Eugenics anyone?

  185. Comment by Rusty on 1/14 @ 4:56 pm #

    I’m betin’ DD has a whole closet full of clothes with Che’s picture on em’.

    Feets. Rustys casserole recipe;
    Saute some chopped onions and garlic in some olive oil on a medium heat. Put in a cup of rice and coat with the olive oil. Toss in some frozen chicken breasts. I can of cream of mushroom soup with a can of water. Cover and simmer till the rice is done. Cover the whole mess with some of those onion rings in a can and grate some cheese(any kind) over it and put it under the broiler for a couple of minutes. For some extra zing put one of them little cans of chopped Jalopenos in the pot too. When I make this my daughter thinks I’m a great chef.

  186. Comment by Steverino on 1/14 @ 5:06 pm #

    We didn’t see Clinton (the pair) going after their detractors in the same way.

    You must have missed it in 1995 when Clinton blamed the Oklahoma City bombing on right-wing talk radio.

  187. Comment by Squid on 1/14 @ 5:07 pm #

    My “just wow” comment was basically equivalent to what JD just said. Except that I couldn’t express it in words.

  188. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 5:23 pm #

    That sounds good Rusty but I’m thinking I might cheat it and do the rice together with the jalapenos in the rice cooker because I’m really good at the rice cooker, and then I can combine them after. I only do brown rice cause this guy named Larry on the radio in Dallas told me a long time ago to only do brown rice. He had something of a thing about it. Larry North I think it was. Also I don’t know that I have a dish that I can do rice with AND put in the broiler. Mostly cause the lids have sort of wandered off somewhere. I stopped buying olive oil when Spain started doing the we-heart-terrorists thing. They just called elections for March, so maybe we can work something out soon. I have this thread bookmarked cause I need to start taking the food-making thing more seriously. It’s very metrosexual.

  189. Comment by Rusty on 1/14 @ 5:29 pm #

    Well. I do it ’cause my wife can’t cook fer crap and it’s real fast and easy and if you don’t have some ingredient you can substitute something else.Any oils OK. Just not ,you know, motor oil. Way too expensive.

  190. Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/14 @ 6:04 pm #

    You must have missed it in 1995 when Clinton blamed the Oklahoma City bombing on right-wing talk radio.

    And the IRS audits of their critics.

  191. Comment by Obstreperous Infidel on 1/14 @ 6:06 pm #

    “have fun jokesters…got to go get my check.”

    But dave, it’s not the first of the month? I’m thinking he’s parody.

  192. Comment by McGehee on 1/14 @ 6:12 pm #

    I’m thinking he’s parody.

    They all are. It’s just that some are on purpose.

    Dogmadave, I don’t know.

    Can’t say I care, either.

  193. Comment by Carin on 1/14 @ 7:07 pm #

    You’re being sarcastic, right? Because it was the Progressive eugenics movement that demanded easy access to abortions in order to “improve” humanity.

    :) Tangled web.

  194. Comment by Bane on 1/14 @ 7:46 pm #

    This reminds me of that hoot back in the early sixties, when, what, that Catholic in the Limo? You know, the one with the idiot brothers? Yeah, well he got his brains blown into his wife’s lap, and oh, what a thigh-slapper that was. I larfed and larfed. And when that sweet little Palestinian fellow blew his brothers brains out, my, how we all shouted ‘twofer!’ And again with all the larfing. Don’t get me started on Martin Luther King, why, if that scrawny redneck had been a better shot, we might all get the entire week off! Like Christmas! Al and Jesse were right there! No doubt loaded on scotch and goofballs! What, redneck sniper, you know not the meaning of ‘traverse’?
    Sad, that the Capitol Mall hasn’t looked like an ant farm, since. Well, there was that million man thingy that lasted for several minutes, until normal black men figured out the guy upfront was bugshit crazy…

    The Goddess Ann Coulter will rule over all you pansies who dare to besmirch her to win favor with your fellow Liberals. No matter what letter is sewn onto your shoulder patch.

  195. Comment by Baron_Harkonnen on 1/14 @ 7:57 pm #

    Datadave post #59: You fail. Limbaugh, whatever I think of his bloviating, is no Goebbels. If he were Goebbels, and the Republican Party were the Nazis, you’d have the Liberal fear of Conservatives running Muslims into death camps in reality. Is that so? Hell, no. The Muslims that the soldiers are fighting in Iraq are a radical sect of them that happens to blow themselves up for their jollies.

    You seem to think that Wellstone met some kind of hit? The same Wellstone that voted for the Defense of Marriage Act and violated free-speech laws? Lol, not quite my idea of a Democrat, that’s for sure.

    To repeat: you fail it.

  196. Comment by B Moe on 1/14 @ 8:04 pm #

    “have fun jokesters…got to go get my check.”

    But dave, it’s not the first of the month?”

    That was a very lame bail-out. I think simon li excusing himself for an emergency servicing of his moaning girlfriend was the best ever.

  197. Comment by Cowboy on 1/14 @ 8:41 pm #

    I’m tired from a long day of plying my trade in Academia–so forgive me for my brevity.

    Datadave, you sir are a dumb-ass.

    Plain and simple.

    A dumb-ass.

  198. Comment by Slartibartfast on 1/14 @ 9:38 pm #

    jeesh, there are all sorts of methods to bring down an airplane. micro timing devices, focused wave dynamics (sound, light waves) etc

    It’s right about here that the suspicion I have that you haven’t the faintest notion of what you’re talking about gets reinforced. In spades.

    Epic. Fail.

  199. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 9:54 pm #

    oh, ding bats I am back…hoot. hearing you guys getting all worked up. NOW Pablo takes the cake he says Black Women are only 6 percent of the population but are 36 percent of the ‘abortion industry’s’ clients’ lets see him figure that out he divides the Black portion in half but maximizes the Abortion figure by eliminating the fact that it takes two to make a baby. Black People are 12 percent or more I believe by his calculations. Somehow those 36 percent are all alone without partners making babies. Saying that only 6 percent of the population is making all those abortions excludes black men. I knew that there was no love lost between the Julios and the Bros…but blaming the victims is an old trick of the Right.

    abortions and outta wedlock has as much to do with institutional racism and lack of jobs as anything else. And there isn’t an Abortion Industry. Most of the brave souls at Women’s clinics are trying to save lives not end them.

    Let’s hear you Nazis howl about that one. Or give it a brake…Afterall this Thread is about Darleen, Michelle and Ann making political speech out of what was supposed to a private ceremony. Instead Ann Coulter made it into a Nuremburg Rally.

  200. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 10:02 pm #

    “You must have missed it in 1995 when Clinton blamed the Oklahoma City bombing on right-wing talk radio.”

    he got that right. Clinton needed to follow up on that and not let the Wingnuts go after him again and again. And that guy who left the trailer in front of day care clinic was a returning Iraq war (vet) wingnut who had a German neo-Nazi buddy helping him but the FBI moved fast to cover that one up. funny John Doe 2 matched the face of the then leader of Germany’s neoNazi movement. Several witnesses saw John Doe with the glorious Tim and note how fast our govt. put Timothy down. Had to keep him from talking.

  201. Comment by Pablo on 1/14 @ 10:03 pm #

    dave, you blithering idiot, men do not get abortions. You call yourself datadave?

    Black People are 12 percent or more I believe by his calculations. Somehow those 36 percent are all alone without partners making babies.

    Thank you for pulling that out of your ass, dave. Now, if you’d like to address something I said, please do. Oh, wait. Please don’t.

    abortions and outta wedlock has as much to do with institutional racism and lack of jobs as anything else.

    Now where getting somewhere. You’re right about that. The welfare state and the soft bigotry of low expectations are institutional racism, and they’re largely to blame for these problems. And guess who’s foisted that upon the black community and society in general? I’ll give you a hint: It starts with “pro” and ends with “gressives”.

    But back on topic, you think it’s a good thing to kill as many of those potential criminals in utero as possible, right? Because of the economics?

  202. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 10:07 pm #

    Pablo.. I guess the “linky” was wrong but you should’ve caught the bad math going on…and anyway obviously antiAbortionism…( maybe it’s an Ism afterall) seems more black than ever. So perhaps it’s a good thing? eh.

    sorry, can’t see a problem with free and easy abortions as any women who wanted one obviously isn’t ready to have a baby.

  203. Comment by Darleen on 1/14 @ 10:10 pm #

    abortions and outta wedlock has as much to do with institutional racism and lack of jobs as anything else

    hey, DoubleD, you think instutionalized racism is better or worse in 2008 then it was in the 1940s? Then you need to figure out why melanin-enriched Americans had intact, married families in much higher percentages than.

    you one meshugga schmuck.

  204. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 10:12 pm #

    pablo. dumbass….you agreed that only 6 percent of the women (black) were responsible for 36 percent of the abortions….like it should be in parity with other racial types…so doesn’t that mean 94 percent of the remaining women are responsible for 64 percent of the other abortions? Using your logic we should just eliminate the black women and no more abortions. So since women are really about 52 percent of the population wouldn’t that mean only 52 percent of the population are responsible for abortions…YUCK. You are a jackass thinking along those lines.

  205. Comment by Darleen on 1/14 @ 10:15 pm #

    btw Double

    Ann’s column ran about 1500 words…only about a couple dozen are political jokes.

    but that’s a Nazi rally?

    Hmmmmm…. I suspect a bit of projection here.

    Some nice shiney leather boots and brown shirts in your closet, DD?

  206. Comment by Pablo on 1/14 @ 10:15 pm #

    Pablo.. I guess the “linky” was wrong but you should’ve caught the bad math going on…and anyway obviously antiAbortionism…

    No, it isn’t wrong. Your attempt to comprehend/explain it is what’s wrong.

    and anyway obviously antiAbortionism…( maybe it’s an Ism afterall) seems more black than ever.

    I’m afraid to ask what the hell that means and how it has anything to do with the demonstrable data.

    sorry, can’t see a problem with free and easy abortions as any women who wanted one obviously isn’t ready to have a baby.

    And if you’re not ready to properly raise a child… Well, let’s just say that your mother missed a golden opportunity.

  207. Comment by The Sanity Inspector on 1/14 @ 10:21 pm #

    you can’t think the Right is Pure in this regard

    Who’d like to educate datadave on the type of fallacy he is engaged in?

    “Everybody does it” is a teenager’s defense.

  208. Comment by McGehee on 1/14 @ 10:22 pm #

    Did dogmadave just say that the OKC bomb was in a trailer?

    I could’ve sworn it was a rented truck. But then, unlike dogmadave, I was on planet Earth the day it happened.

  209. Comment by Pablo on 1/14 @ 10:23 pm #

    pablo. dumbass….you agreed that only 6 percent of the women (black) were responsible for 36 percent of the abortions….like it should be in parity with other racial types…so doesn’t that mean 94 percent of the remaining women are responsible for 64 percent of the other abortions?

    Not 6% of the women, dipshit. 6% of the population. If you’d bother to actually look past the splash screen, you would find the statistics you seem to be satisfied with trying to make up on the fly. Like here. But that’s not terribly important to the conversation, other than it proves that you have no idea whatsoever what you’re talking about. I’m more interested in this:

    Abortion is bad. Few if any here disagree with that premise. (despite it’s causing a lowering of crime rate according to new economic thinking…and borne out by statistics…and reason: unwanted children tend to be more likely criminals)

    But now you’re suggesting that being anti-abortion is a good thing…if you’re black. Are you stoned or just stupid, dave? You’re not coherent, that’s for sure.

  210. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 10:24 pm #

    darleen we shoulda kept racism around Right? You’re so backward. Let’s go back to the making the Blacks drinking from Negros Only water fountains. Damn, maybe it’s the intergrated water that’s making them have abortions.

    Slut, Whites are also having similar falling rates of marriage and family. Blacks were only bellweathers for the future. Corporationist America just decided to make people work for less money for twice as much time. Two incomes now are needed where one was good enough in the 50s. That’s really the reason for more abortions and less marriage. Dear.

    sometimes you lovers of Plutocracy are so dumb it’s unbelievable. Read again how ol Ann made a political mockery of her dear dad’s funeral. That Kelly article was insightful although maybe just slightly over the top but then again Every Coulter diatribe was over the top. So he was only being fair to old Ann…how seems to spurn marriage and motherhood. Your selective attack on a mildly crass article of complaint about Coulter’s behaviour makes you seem very self righteous and holier than thou.

    You need to fall in love and spend less time belittling Liberals who have nothing against you except that you join in the hatefull and frankly scary bunch of neoFascist rhetoric.

    to others, the only reason Liberals haven’t been shipped off to concentration camps is simply they aren’t a threat to anyone. So stop the Strawman boogyman arguing.

  211. Comment by Pablo on 1/14 @ 10:25 pm #

    Yeah, one of them there Ryder trailers, McGehee. A double wide, I think. Parked out front of the Alfred P. Murrah daycare center.

  212. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 10:33 pm #

    Dick Head Pablo boy. Read this “2000 36.6 million 12.3%’

    my friend that is the Black portion of the population.. not 6 percent. You’re so dumb to say that they are responsible for 36 of all abortions….eliminating the other 6 percent of black men….who are also Maybe responsible…but then you retards think black women are so sexually irresponsible or something or just too hot. Wow, they did it without partners having all those babies…..

    those stats are just plain goofy. Ta da let’s hear Women are responsible for All Abortions by your logic. They are Unclean just like the Bible says.

    Damned Hillary, She’s the Worst of the Lot!

    your ProLife Black friends led you astray. By you calculations….again let’s hear it…drum roll>>>> tada….. women (52 percent of the population) should only responsible for 52 percent of the abortions…those damned blackies doing that much sex and having that much sex…are you jealous or something Julio?

  213. Comment by Pablo on 1/14 @ 10:35 pm #

    You’re so dumb to say that they are responsible for 36 of all abortions….eliminating the other 6 percent of black men…

    Sweet Mother of Jesus! I’ve had ear infections smarter than you, dave.

  214. Comment by Pablo on 1/14 @ 10:36 pm #

    women (52 percent of the population) should only responsible for 52 percent of the abortions

    I mean really… Have you ever? Just. Wow.

  215. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 10:39 pm #

    Pablo, buddy still waiting to hear why only women (black or otherwise) are responsible for abortions.

  216. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 10:41 pm #

    How many abortions are the lesbian people responsible and also the gay guy ones too? It’s cause of the racism I know already from dave but I bet homophobia is an overlooked factor as well.

  217. Comment by Pablo on 1/14 @ 10:48 pm #

    Pablo, buddy still waiting to hear why only women (black or otherwise) are responsible for abortions.

    Who said “responsible”, dave? To state the blindingly obvious, only women have them. men, not having them, are not a factor in determining the percentages any more than you’d count women if you’re looking at prostate issues.

    Someone is trying to out-alphie monkyboy, and I fear we’re heading into balloon fence territory. Could that mark possibly fall? Cet me Cal Ripken! We need to talk.

  218. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 10:48 pm #

    Pablo..don’t you see? yet? In their words, only women are responsible for so many abortions but conveniently leaving out the black men to enlarge an already large statistic of proportionality. But they mixed the half with the whole invalidating their argument. Shows how sexist that the whole “ProLife” charade is.

  219. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 10:50 pm #

    Oh. That should be *responsible for* – personally though I think even little Democrats can figure out that Bush was in office for like two terms and abortions are still super-easy to get. Even if they pretend really hard this issue is really not in play.

  220. Comment by Pablo on 1/14 @ 10:52 pm #

    So, you get these enormous balloons, and and a few million square meters of kevlar mesh. Then you build a mile high berm….

  221. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 10:52 pm #

    Oh. So if we only ban abortions for women then maybe that would be a compromise everyone could live with. Way to think out of the box, dave.

  222. Comment by Darleen on 1/14 @ 10:54 pm #

    But they mixed the half with the whole invalidating their argument. Shows how sexist that the whole “ProLife” charade is.

    Jesus, Mary and Joseph…. DD is creating unknown Patriarchal Conspiracies ™ right before our eyes.

    Not even Sanger-founded Planned Parenthood counts men in their abortion stats.

  223. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 10:54 pm #

    g’nite…should check on my other thread languishing. Maybe I won’t be so shrill when Republicans finally leave it to Democrats to fuck it up. Republicans need to return to the private sector and leave the govt. to those who love it.

    We live in a conservative era: conservatism has been the dominate theme since Reagan. Why complain so much as your philosophy has been on top for about 40 years now since Nixon’s rout of McGovern.

    So it’s time for a change.

  224. Comment by Pablo on 1/14 @ 10:54 pm #

    Not so fast, ‘feets. We should consider mandating abortions for men, because of the economics.

  225. Comment by Darleen on 1/14 @ 10:56 pm #

    So, you get these enormous balloons…

    DAMmit, Pablo, I think I just snorted cola up my nose.

    drink warning next time, um-kay?

  226. Comment by daleyrocks on 1/14 @ 10:58 pm #

    datadave – Don’t you hang out in Greenwald’s swamp a lot? I seem to remember you from there. It sort of helps to explain what a fucking moron you are and the kind of crap you believe.

  227. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 10:59 pm #

    Men could be like a bellweather. Good thinking, P.

  228. Comment by daleyrocks on 1/14 @ 11:02 pm #

    If I can’t get pregnant, can I get an abortion, you know just for the shared experience with the sisterhood?

    datadave?

  229. Comment by happyfeet on 1/14 @ 11:07 pm #

    That was kind of sad really cause I think he was really bringing it. I’m having coffee with my thoughtfulest liberal friend on thursday and I’m kind of looking forward to hearing what he has to say. If I had to guess I’d bet he’s taking a hard look at McCain.

  230. Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 11:30 pm #

    slimeball..don’t know who greenwald is. Too bad you can’t even talk without sputtering some foul names. What’s your point?

    anyway, daley rocks get an enema with a rat filled pipe which is one of our RightWing thug’s main instruments of torture approved by Fox network, the CIA and the former ‘School of the Americas’ The ProLife movement endorsed such behaviour by the Contras and El Salvadorian Death Squads. They ban abortions and endorse torture.

  231. Comment by Russ on 1/14 @ 11:30 pm #

    Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 3:21 pm #

    have fun jokesters…got to go get my check.

    Don’t forget your litium prescription while you’re out.

    Comment by datadave on 1/14 @ 9:54 pm #

    oh, ding bats I am back…hoot.

    Whoops… too late.

  232. Comment by daleyrocks on 1/14 @ 11:37 pm #

    sure datadave – that’s why you came in on the post linked to the Salon interview. Gotcha.

    Did you have a fresh brain douche before or after you read that post?

  233. Comment by Gregory B. on 1/14 @ 11:43 pm #

    “Regardless of whether or not one likes Ann (I don’t.)”

    What has any of this to do with “liking” anyone? Principle does not “alter when alteration finds/Nor bend with the remover to remove. . .”

    There is no need to couch one’s defense of decency with caveats.

    Be a man! Ya sound like a sniveling liberal.

    Ms. Coulter has honored her father and decently so. Her column is an unaffected, honest, and necessary obituary–the kind of valentine that only a daughter can write for a father. Not sentimental: true.

    God Bless her for an act that too few even understand as ritually obligatory. God Bless her father (and mother) for offering such an individual example of a woman willing to speak her mind and bear her soul–to the ridicule of the unknowing and the tepid defense of the un-brave.

  234. Comment by Darleen on 1/14 @ 11:54 pm #

    Greg

    It’s easy to come to the defense of people you LIKE.

  235. Comment by Slartibartfast on 1/15 @ 5:23 am #

    Yes, Republicans were the ones waving fists in the air at Wellstone’s memorial service, shouting We will win! We will win! WE WILL WIN!.

  236. Comment by Baron_Harkonnen on 1/15 @ 6:26 am #

    Datadave, you mind telling me how a man can have the other 48% of abortions? Women have 100% of all abortions, simply because they are the *only ones* capable of having the *damned things* in the first place! A Y Chromosome automatically disqualifies you from bearing a baby you fuckwad!

    As for people making political mockeries out of funerals, I don’t seem to recall any Republicans in the audience for the funeral. Furthermore, if abortion is some sort of conspiracy to eliminate blacks it could have been done by now. The Federal Government is plenty organized to hunt down and eliminate people, like your fevered wish for importance seems to want it to do to *you.* Jebus Christ, man, you pull *everything* out of your ass.

    No wonder everything you say is crap.

  237. Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/15 @ 6:55 am #

    I don’t seem to recall any Republicans in the audience for [Wellstone's] funeral.

    There were a few, as I recall. They came to show their respect, and were singled out for hostility.

    It was really quite a revealing event, pretty much the opposite of the way datadave remembers it.

  238. Comment by Rob Crawford on 1/15 @ 6:58 am #

    Datadave, you mind telling me how a man can have the other 48% of abortions?

    I had an abortion just the other day. Oh, wait, no, that was a bowl of ice cream. My bad.

  239. Comment by Carin on 1/15 @ 7:15 am #

    The stupid … it burns. I had to see this again:

    ablo..don’t you see? yet? In their words, only women are responsible for so many abortions but conveniently leaving out the black men to enlarge an already large statistic of proportionality. But they mixed the half with the whole invalidating their argument. Shows how sexist that the whole “ProLife” charade is.

    Just in case anyone missed it. Do you think we can get those “I had an Abortion” shirts for men?

    STOP MIXING THE HALF WITH THE WHOLE, HATERS!

  240. Comment by alppuccino on 1/15 @ 7:17 am #

    You may remember that some time ago datadave was a construction worker and was involved in a serious self-inflicted nail gun accident. Twice.

  241. Comment by McGehee on 1/15 @ 7:26 am #

    In the back of the head?

    ‘Cause, I’m thinking he’s talented that way.

  242. Comment by datadave on 1/15 @ 7:38 am #

    wow, los stupidios. Again let’s hear it? Negro’s are responsible for 36 per cent of all abortions. Hmmm, did you know miscarriages are also “abortions”.

    But again to pump up the racist factor….you all agree that Negroes are represented by only 6 percent of the population (of course they are 12+ percent). Blaming only the women. So the utter dishonesty of the conservative jerks here is thus revealed.

    1) blaming the women for all abortions seems to the dominate theme here…(like Dan Collins constant pinup allusions to ‘tits’ and such). 2)dishonest with use of statistics is a given with conservatives
    3) when countered with argument, conservatives can only come up with ridicule and namecalling.
    4)Ann Coulter made her own nasty NeoNazi bed and deserves whatever shit that comes her way (however foul).

  243. Comment by McGehee on 1/15 @ 7:45 am #

    Ann Coulter made her own nasty NeoNazi bed and deserves whatever shit that comes her way (however foul).

    Awwww, dogmadave’s got him a crush on our Ann!

  244. Comment by alppuccino on 1/15 @ 8:01 am #

    “In the back of the head?”

    Strangely enough, yes McGehee, and the nails stick out in such a way that he gets The View piped into his brain in HD. That and Barney reruns.

  245. Comment by datadave on 1/15 @ 8:07 am #

    ha, hate the View….jeesh.

    really, I don’t see the humor in Ann. Do you? She makes a big political speech out of her father’s death. That’s the point. You woman’s lacking anything approaching compassion in even her own father’s death….exploiting it for a column and points with her far Right Liberal-hating crowd.

    did read some nice liberals even showing compassion at her father’s passing although considering her record of damnation towards all things “liberal”. Still mystified why Darleen expects compassion from those who have been harmed and hurt by her. (?)

    dogmadave is pretty funny though.

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  247. Comment by Pablo on 1/15 @ 8:56 am #

    Blame them, dave? Why blame them for making such a wonderful choice to have abortions at 3 times the rate of the rest of society? Remember the crime prevention and the economics and the unreadiness you were talking about? You should be cheering this progressive social effect that has 3 out of 5 empowered black women terminating pregnancies.

    Power to the people, baby! Ain’t no patriarchy gonna dominat their wombs!

    Feel it, dave . You know you want to, you Nazi piece of shit.

  248. Comment by Darleen on 1/15 @ 9:10 am #

    dataphobicdave

    Please explain how Planned Parenthood’s Guttmacher Institute is part of the Vast RightNeoNaziZionistWhinger conspiracy because they only count females among their abortion studies/statistics.

  249. Comment by Slartibartfast on 1/15 @ 9:24 am #

    I’m, incidentally, wondering how many Coulter fans dave imagines are PW regulars.

    And whether dave has any appreciation at all for the distinction between defending someone and defending that person’s ideas. Possibly, though, dave wouldn’t piss on Coulter if she was on fire in the desert.

    I would. I’d do it even if there was an extinguisher nearby.

    Just kidding with that last bit; I’d give the extinguisher a try, first.

  250. Comment by McGehee on 1/15 @ 9:25 am #

    expects compassion from those who have been harmed and hurt

    How many of their fathers did she murder?

  251. Comment by JD on 1/15 @ 10:09 am #

    datadave – You make my brain hurt. Fortunately for you, lack of said brain precludes it hurting.

  252. Comment by JD on 1/15 @ 6:02 pm #

    What kind of ass-backwards third world cuntry have we become if men have to resort to back alley abortions using rusty pipe cleaners?

  253. Comment by datadave on 1/15 @ 10:37 pm #

    Ironic. that we’re supposed to get weepy eyed over Sire Coulter’s passing while as FBI man he probably wished the premature death of Martin Luther King, Jr.
    It’s about that time of year again when Conservatives get in a tizzy about liberals honoring a real Man, a real brave soul who went against the most evil in Amerika: Southern White dickheads…and JEdger and his boys such as Sire Coulter who for all we know had something to do with King getting an early grave. From the timeline Ann gives sounds like Agent Coulter was at JEdger’s service at the time. I am sure he really loved Blacks and MLK big time!

    Darleen you’re real dense to think Blacks are only 6 percent of the population….do I have to explain to your feeble mind again and again…..and again…. again? You associate with “men” that write :”What kind of ass-backwards third world cuntry have we become if men have to resort to back alley abortions using rusty pipe cleaners?”…. hey, it’s your ‘cuntry’.

    The ProLife movement is about hatred of the modern freedom of sexuality and ProLife is a condemnation of women. Get a grip and read the two whole pages in Bible about the Uncleanliness of women. You buy that Roman St. Peter crap do you? Abortions are not fun and nothing anyone wants to do but unfortunatly they are necessary. (Medically, Abortion covers miscarriages too…as a doctor called my mate’s miscarriage an “abortion” (happened on Valentine’s day btw…how ironic.) NO Tears. I have an straight A High Honors student son instead.

    now, when is that
    Coulter going to show some humanity and find Love and Family? The women is so hatefilled and crazed, she’s forgot her humanity.

  254. Comment by JD on 1/15 @ 10:43 pm #

    datadave – Where do you get off making a statement like that? What evidence do you have that he prolly wanted to see MLK’s premature death. You are a complete and utter asshat. The best part of you ran down your mother’s leg.

    Oh, please, fucktard. Tell us more about what we think, and why we think it. Your observations into the conservative mind strike at our very core, and touch too close to home. You have us figured out, oh gigantic shitstain. Wanting to preserve life is a condemnation of women? Good Lord, you are more dense than lead. F

    or you to question someone else’s humanity after defending the drivel from HuffPo and spewing the full on craziness that you have spewed it so incredibly, jaw dropping in its unintended irony.

  255. Comment by JD on 1/15 @ 10:51 pm #

    Aggressive stupidity at its finest. This is a fine example of a person that considers himself our moral better.

  256. Comment by datadave on 1/15 @ 10:57 pm #

    JD, you’re losing decorum and manners and reverting to form. bunching up in your whitey-tighty’s are you.

    well, I guess I win this argument…you lost your ‘cool’.

    never said I was anyone’s “moral better” YOU DID! jeesh. I just do this for fun and argument, not to piss you off.

  257. Comment by happyfeet on 1/15 @ 11:03 pm #

    YOU DID! jeesh. YOU! jeesh. YOU DID! jeesh. YOU YOU DID DID! jeesh. YOU DID! jeesh. YOU DID! jD! DID! jeesh. DID! jeesh. JD DID! jeesh. YOU DID! DID!

  258. Comment by JD on 1/15 @ 11:18 pm #

    You won. Well done. If the prize is being a colossal prick, a person that has the ability to demonstrate a complete lack of humanity, yup, you are the winner.

    I did not lose my cool. I not nice enough, not genteel enough to refrain from calling you a fucktard each and every time you are being a fucktard. They only reason I do refrain is from the inceased probability of carpal tunnel were I to have to type fucktard everytime I see your name.

    If you think it is fucking fun to piss on someone’s grave, then you are a sick fuck, and I hope you live the rest of your life cleaning up your own Depends.

  259. Comment by datadave on 1/15 @ 11:41 pm #

    ja. typing with ur toes

  260. Comment by JD on 1/15 @ 11:42 pm #

    WOULD IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO YOU IF I USED ALL CAPS LIKE YOU ?!

  261. Comment by maggie katzen on 1/15 @ 11:57 pm #

    WHOSE USING ALL CAPS?

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  263. Comment by McGehee on 1/16 @ 10:04 am #

    I just do this for fun and argument, not to piss you off.

    Your Honor, I ask that the witness be held in contempt and charged with trollish perjury, and that the following be entered as evidence of said charge:

    while as FBI man he probably wished the premature death of Martin Luther King, Jr.

    There can be no other reason for such a comment except expressly and with intent, to piss people off.

    The penalty for trollih perjury is and ought to be expulsion.

  264. Comment by Bender Bending Rodriguez on 1/16 @ 1:18 pm #

    OMG, this dave nut is Teh Perfekt Lefty. Poor education + no grasp of history + liberal guilt + wacky conspiracy theories + “fallacy of proof” + internet trollery + inate lack of intelligence = datadave. The perfect storm.

    I just wish he would’ve taken the time to explain why black men were the only men who could get a black woman pregnant (which is why, in his jumbled little brain, black men should be added into the demographics on abortion). I’d really, really like to hear that… just to imagine the smoke coming out of his ears.

  265. Comment by B Moe on 1/16 @ 1:32 pm #

    “JEdger and his boys such as Sire Coulter who for all we know had something to do with King* getting an early grave.”

    *who for all we know was a promiscuous, bi-sexual communist spy. For all we know.

  266. Comment by JD on 1/16 @ 1:35 pm #

    McGeHee and BBR – You guys are too nice. idiotdave is a fucktard.

  267. Comment by happyfeet on 1/16 @ 1:42 pm #

    He’s a fucktard but also he hits the same note all the time kind of like in Eyes Wide Shut and he seems kind of amateurish for a troll.

  268. Comment by Armando on 1/18 @ 9:29 am #

    No conservative spews hate like a liberal – not one. For all her bomb throwing at least Coulter does with a vein of humor and snarkyness. Who burns effigies of American soldiers and craps on the American flag? Liberals. Who delves in assassination chic. Liberals. Who uses vicious Sambo photoshops, rank religious bigotry, death wishes, gloating over the illnesses of public figures, and fill-in-the-blank derangement syndrome. Liberals. Your “Democratic” Party lost the fucking Civil war? What does that tell you?

    Libs are the worst example of peace loving, free speech protecting, HUMANS that has ever been visited on this planet. This world is filled with the dead that were starved, gassed, shot, and basically loved to death by the goodwill and ideas of liberalism. You know why Africa is so poor, why people starve while flies buzz children’s faces, why a disease virtually wiped out (Malaria) has now been killing 2 million people a year? Liberals. Prepare yourselves, libs there is a hell – and the Devil eagerly await everyone of your arrivals

  269. Comment by Solaratov on 1/18 @ 9:48 am #

    Losing a parent whom one has loved and looked up to is rough; and my heart goes out to Ann. It hurts, but the pain will abate over time. The memories — never.
    As for datadave: all I can figure is that the pathetic little creature must work overtime (& I use “work” in a purely figurative sense) at being as massive an asshole as he obviously is. [He sounds like someone stole his Barbie]

  270. Comment by datadave on 1/23 @ 11:27 am #

    “Libs are the worst example of peace loving, free speech protecting, HUMANS that has ever been visited on this planet. This world is filled with the dead that were starved, gassed, shot, and basically loved to death by the goodwill and ideas of liberalism. You know why Africa is so poor, why people starve while flies buzz children’s faces, why a disease virtually wiped out (Malaria) has now been killing 2 million people a year? Liberals. Prepare yourselves, libs there is a hell – and the Devil eagerly await everyone of your arrivals”

    typical Fascist hate speech. The Conservatives who loved Adolf Hitler and Mussolini are back. I know my history more than the lot of you and even the NYTimes supported the Nazis back in 1933 with an editorial praising the Germans for liquidatin the social democrats while asking for a little pity for the jews. Well, one thing goes with the other. You blame the “liberals” for all evil, look inside yourself. I know that liberals can be evil but the conservatives here see it as they being all good and their opponents as evil.

    With those who disagree, conservatives try to ruin their jobs, reputations and even lives. I just discovered the “troll” affair where conservatives went after a troller by name and personally hunted down the obviously harmless nut case. Note, that tim mcvey stood up for the Right to defend arms and many on the Right defended his actions by blaming the Oklahoma massacre of govt. employees as justification for Ruby Ridge and Waco. I’ll never forget that day when neoNazi types did their deed and Rush Limbaugh got on the radio saying that it was Arab terrorists that did the act of treason because his friends in the FBI told him….

    now tell me how dishonest Republican bankers who’ve been leverageing dishonest loan shark methods and selling mortages to other banker who also leveraged the said mortages making a whole pyramid of debt that is estimated to be 400 billion based upon 40 billion of assets. Such as the case with Republican (and some Democrats) pushing for deregulation of the financial industry and thus our economies been pushed into indefensible indebtedness.

    I’ve been hearing this on the Street from savvy accountants who are even putting their money in commodities such as gold as they see the inflationary bounce as being incredible. The dollars tanking and you “classic liberals” are at fault. Trust a Republican leverage artist and this is what you get.

  271. Comment by Education Guy on 1/23 @ 11:35 am #

    You don’t know anything datadave, and the really scary part of that is you seem to believe that if you think it, it must be true. That’s the mark of an intellectual child. The only thing your comments ever do is to expose your thought process (and your ego) for the rest of us to see.

    If you would let go of your hate and preconceived notions of the political other, you might have a chance at actually knowing something.

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