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1. Comment by happyfeet on 11/18 @ 4:57 pm #

   Here I kind of thought about this a little cause I didn’t really get it. More generally, Detroit I think only had one shot and it missed its chance to blow. Which is not to say it doesn’t blow. I know. It’s confusing.

2. Comment by Merovign on 11/18 @ 4:57 pm #

   *whew*, that was a close one!

   Well, at least things are back to normal.

3. Comment by Carin on 11/18 @ 4:59 pm #

   I guess I got out just in time. Now, if only we could sell our house …

4. Comment by R30C on 11/18 @ 5:26 pm #

   Yeah Detroit! Time to break out Bob Seger Live Bullet!

5. Comment by The Sanity Inspector on 11/18 @ 5:35 pm #

   Nonsense! Detroit is a perfectly normal place to live, we’re no worse than anywhere else! Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got to go to work. I’m the door gunner on a beer truck.

6. Comment by Kirk on 11/18 @ 6:00 pm #

   I’m guessing this is what Jenny Granholm meant when she promised us we would get “blown away.”

7. Comment by rickinstl on 11/18 @ 6:01 pm #

   But who’s #1 in chlamidia & syphillis? Huh?
   Listen bitches,when you’re #1 in one of the burning crotch categories, maybe we’ll talk.

8. Comment by rickinstl on 11/18 @ 6:03 pm #

   Clamidia? Seems more logical.

9. Comment by JohnAnnArbor on 11/18 @ 7:06 pm #

   comments working?

10. Comment by JohnAnnArbor on 11/18 @ 7:08 pm #

    Is there something wrong with trying to include a Google Maps link?

11. Comment by happyfeet on 11/18 @ 7:08 pm #

    Yes, I think John. I’ve had a couple points this weekend where the site didn’t want to load. Not sure what’s up with that.

12. Comment by happyfeet on 11/18 @ 7:09 pm #

    Oh – the spam filter is extremely particular is all I know.

13. Comment by Pablo on 11/18 @ 7:21 pm #

    Poor Philly. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.

14. Comment by Pablo on 11/18 @ 7:22 pm #

    Is there something wrong with trying to include a Google Maps link?

    Yes. The blog hates Google. Tiny URL it, and it should post.

15. Comment by JohnAnnArbor on 11/18 @ 7:28 pm #

    http://tinyurl.com/3yy57k

16. Comment by JohnAnnArbor on 11/18 @ 7:30 pm #

    Alter Road is the border between Grosse Pointe Park (on the right) and Detroit. Note that there are houses on almost every lot in GPP. Note the large open spaces in Detroit. Those aren’t friendly open neighborhood parks. They’re empty lots. The streets used to be just as packed with houses as Grosse Pointe, a million people and 40 years ago.

17. Comment by JohnAnnArbor on 11/18 @ 7:52 pm #

    Link in #15 is meant to go with message in #16, if anyone’s reading this thread….

18. Comment by happyfeet on 11/18 @ 7:58 pm #

    Kooky – NPR’s media bias show helpfully had one of those people from the article – the ones that are being “proactive” – on to debunk the report tonight. That is proactive cause usually the show is at least a week behind on topics. Why are Democrats so threatened by this report you think? I really don’t get it.

19. Comment by Jeffersonian on 11/18 @ 8:36 pm #

    But who’s #1 in chlamidia & syphillis? Huh?
    Listen bitches,when you’re #1 in one of the burning crotch categories, maybe we’ll talk.

    Even our good neighborhoods are jammed with killers.

20. Comment by Carin on 11/19 @ 6:00 am #

    John, that map shows (almost) where my dad lived (In GP) – I know that area very well. Trying googling Harvard and Warren and you’ll get a different look. Still Detroit, but a neighborhood with a bit more “control.”

    And, if anyone wants to buy a house over there, lemmeknow.

21. Comment by at all costs on 11/19 @ 6:02 am #

    -happyfeet

    I think we all know why the democrats are threatened – Detroit is predominantly black, and this report supports the idea that blacks are more inherently criminal than whites. That’s what you meant, right?

22. Comment by Dan Collins on 11/19 @ 6:50 am #

    this report supports the idea that blacks are more inherently criminal than whites

    Does it?

23. Comment by at all costs on 11/19 @ 6:56 am #

    Why else are the libtards in an uproar about this report?

24. Comment by Carin on 11/19 @ 6:56 am #

    Democrats never miss an opportunity to pander to the blacks. I mean, why actually DO something to help the situation, when you can just pander.

    Even more interesting, is why Detroiters (and black Detroiters especially) have been DENIED the opportunity to vote for Obama in the primary. They have been allowed one choice -Hillary, thanks to Michigan Democrats and Jenny I’m-gonna-get-a-job-in-Hillary’s-administration Granholm.

    You’d think there would be even a smidgen of complaints about that, but I haven’t heard a peep.

25. Comment by Dan Collins on 11/19 @ 7:01 am #

    I just don’t see how that could reasonably be extracted from such a report, at all costs. Likelier, it underscores the failures of the present political leadership.

26. Comment by Carin on 11/19 @ 7:21 am #

    And the present political leadership (in Detroit) is all-black and all-Democrat. Criticsm of Detroit is ALWAYS related to race. When an invester wants to build something in Detroit – it’s STILL about race. It almost always has to have some component of black ownership. So, the libtards are upset because criticism of Detroit (even in the form of bad stats), is inherently criticism of their policies.

    I always say, Detroit is the ultimate result of liberal policies. Absent liberal elites – elites aren’t interested in living here – Detroit is what you get.

27. Comment by at all costs on 11/19 @ 7:30 am #

    So Dan – you’re one of those people that think blacks commit more crimes because we haven’t given them enough affirmative action?

28. Comment by Carin on 11/19 @ 7:37 am #

    I doubt that is what Dan thinks. I lived (until very recently) in a mostly black neighborhood, and none of my neighbors were criminals.

    My point – my neighborhood was made up of (mostly) married black families.

    So — I wonder if there is any sort of relationship between intact black families and crime? You’d think there would be a study.

29. Comment by alppuccino on 11/19 @ 7:41 am #

    Why can’t a bunch of white people – and I’m talking really white, you know, Talking Heads-white, as opposed to Everybody Love Raymond-white – why can’t a bunch of Osmond-like people lock arms and sweep across Detroit, picking up the occasional styro coffee cup, and abc gum, and rake a few leaves, and unhook the hoses from the spigots (the nights are getting below freezing and the pipes are in danger of bursting)?

    Wouldn’t that help?

30. Comment by Dan Collins on 11/19 @ 7:41 am #

    you’re one of those people that think blacks commit more crimes because we haven’t given them enough affirmative action?

    On the contrary, I think the bulk of their problems stem from welfare and the victim mentality that’s been peddled to them like crack.

31. Comment by Dan Collins on 11/19 @ 7:45 am #

    So — I wonder if there is any sort of relationship between intact black families and crime? You’d think there would be a study.

    Moynihan wrote about this long ago. Then he gave his Senate seat to Hillary.

32. Comment by happyfeet on 11/19 @ 8:07 am #

    Why are Democrats so threatened by this report you think? I really don’t get it.

    What I meant there is I don’t get it. Really.

33. Comment by happyfeet on 11/19 @ 8:08 am #

    They’ve put great stock in violence statistics of late. I recall a study in The Lancet in particular.

34. Comment by happyfeet on 11/19 @ 8:34 am #

    NPR’s not calling for skeptical look at these ones.

35. Comment by Republican on Acid on 11/19 @ 8:59 am #

    Not that I care too much, but Saint Louis ranking as one of the worst “crime cities” has always been a bit bogus since Saint Louis is a city and “county” in and of itself*. This has historically restricted the city limits to those of the 1870’s. So unlike other cities that can expand into the suburbs and pad their various “bad” statistics, Saint Louis is stuck being the ultimate “inner city”.

    *Not to confuse Saint Louis county with Saint Louis city. Confusing huh?

36. Comment by Eleven on 11/19 @ 10:41 am #

    So what happens to a large city when it dies?
    Seriously. Does it just go back to the buffaloes?
    I understand Buffalo is crapping out too.

37. Comment by Andrew on 11/19 @ 12:05 pm #

    There will be celebrations in the Baltimore Sun over this, I’m sure.

    So glad I don’t read that toilet paper.

38. Comment by happyfeet on 11/19 @ 12:07 pm #

    I only know Baltimore from The Wire. Not a PR coup, that.

39. Comment by JohnAnnArbor on 11/19 @ 12:45 pm #

    So what happens to a large city when it dies?

    I’ve suggested farming the empty spaces.

40. Comment by Christopher Johnson on 11/19 @ 12:58 pm #

    There’s a challenge flag on the field. My hometown wants another look at this.

41. Comment by JD on 11/19 @ 1:19 pm #

    I heard that Mitch Albom’s next book will be titled “The 5 people you meet in Heaven, after you have been murdered in Detroit”.

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